On 12/08/2018 09:31, Vicky Ayech wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Aug 2018 22:21:36 +0100, Nick Odell
> <***@themusicworkshop.plus.com> wrote:
>> On 11/08/18 14:14, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
>>> In message <***@mid.individual.net>, Sid Nuncius
>>> <***@hotmail.co.uk> writes:
>>>> On 09/08/2018 14:13, Btms wrote:
>>>>> Agreed! I was charged with writing references for applicants once upon a
>>>>> time. When I announced I was unsure if my integrity would support
>>>>> any of
>>>>> the twenty candidates (bar one), I was advised a little anxiously: “but
>>>>> Linda you can’t say anything negative.....” oops.
>>>> Yes, I remember the "no negative comments" phase in school Records Of
>>>> Achievement. In some ways it was laudable in that we no longer got
>>>> comments like "This pupil is a complete waste of time," which I had
>>>> seen in the past and thought completely unacceptable. However, the
>>> Then there's the old classic "this pupil is trying." [Very trying.]
>>> When my mother taught English in German schools, she had the excuse of
>>> working in a foreign language [although she spoke German fairly well, I
>>> don't _think_ she had ever gained any qualification in it - in those
>>> days, English lessons in German schools were entirely in English!], so
>>> rather relished the ability to be honest rather than having to use
>>> weasel words in her reports. (I suspect she exaggerated this for effect,
>>> and was in fact reasonably kind.)
>> That's an interesting point - English lessons in English - no, no, hear
>> me out, serious point on the way.
>> Are we the only nation that uses our native language as the medium for
>> teaching a foreign language? The foreign schools I've experienced all
>> teach English by total immersion - and now you've added Germany where
>> they do it too. Could this be the reason why the British are so rubbish
>> at foreign languages and most other Europeans are so good?
> I thought most language schools taught each language in that language.
> When we went to Spanish classes in Spain they were in Spanish. All the
> students wre from different countries so it would have been impossible
> to do it in their ones. Which happens teaching English here. Teaching
> English in Spain I spoke English as much as possible. Teaching other
> languages here I know that schools talk French for French etc. Private
> language schools teach in the language being learned.
I think language schools will always teach in the particular language
being taught. But that can be next to impossible in schools if you don't
have a native or even fluent speaker teaching. We had a combination of
various reasonably fluent English nuns teaching us grammar and
comprehension, backed up by Madame Plucknett giving us an hour or so of
French Conversation every week - she was very voluble and insisted on us
saying something whatever it was. It worked extremely well for me and
those of my schoolfriends I kept up with - we all have a good accent and
level of practical French. Though my French will never be as good as my
German, which I learnt by total immersion in Austria.