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J. P. Gilliver (John)
2018-06-28 02:38:05 UTC
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I rather liked the report I have now seen twice from the BBC Korean
correspondent: apparently the BBC offices are next door to the German
embassy; when asked what they were saying in there, she said she thought
it was "don't mention the football".
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Sid Nuncius
2018-06-28 05:35:32 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
I rather liked the report I have now seen twice from the BBC Korean
correspondent: apparently the BBC offices are next door to the German
embassy; when asked what they were saying in there, she said she thought
it was "don't mention the football".
As Andy Zaltzman said on TMS, yesterday was surely one of the greatest
days in the history of English football.
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2018-06-28 06:21:54 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
I rather liked the report I have now seen twice from the BBC Korean
correspondent: apparently the BBC offices are next door to the German
embassy; when asked what they were saying in there, she said she
thought it was "don't mention the football".
As Andy Zaltzman said on TMS, yesterday was surely one of the greatest
days in the history of English football.
^this^
BrritSki
2018-06-28 06:23:42 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
I rather liked the report I have now seen twice from the BBC Korean
correspondent: apparently the BBC offices are next door to the German
embassy; when asked what they were saying in there, she said she
thought it was "don't mention the football".
As Andy Zaltzman said on TMS, yesterday was surely one of the greatest
days in the history of English football.
Don't mention the VAR and
Don't mention the score
vying for best headline...

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Jane Vernon
2018-06-28 07:50:26 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
I rather liked the report I have now seen twice from the BBC Korean
correspondent: apparently the BBC offices are next door to the German
embassy; when asked what they were saying in there, she said she
thought it was "don't mention the football".
As Andy Zaltzman said on TMS, yesterday was surely one of the greatest
days in the history of English football.
Don't mention the VAR and
Don't mention the score
vying for best headline...
RubbishHaikus'R'Us
Only one syllable out on first and third line, don't beat yourself up
about it ;)
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agsmith578688@gmail.com Tony Smith Prestbury Glos.
2018-06-28 17:56:58 UTC
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If England decide to aim for a tactical loss against Belgium, will the caledonian fans then be rooting for England to win?
Rosalind Mitchell
2018-06-29 13:03:44 UTC
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If England decide to aim for a tactical loss against Belgium, will the caledonian fans then be rooting for England to win?
Oh, it's a tactical loss now, is it? Not being beaten by a better team.

From Caledonia, which since I moved here three years ago has warmly
accepted me as one of her own, I can report that interest in the World
Cup is less than overwhelming. I can also report that many Scots are
frankly pissed off that every time they turn on the news they are being
told that "we", having beaten a couple of undistinguished also-ran
teams, are now apparently dead certs to lift the trophy. The BBC Charter
forbids it from broadcasting a peak-time world news broadcast from a
Scottish point of view, so of course a London POV prevails that barely
acknowledges the existence of anything north of the M25, never mind
other countries, so the prevailing attitude is that "we" are in the
World Cup and of course "we" are terribly excited.

In truth, our team isn't taking part. That's no big deal, we know our
national side is pretty crap, we know our domestic league, abandoned by
the Britain-wide media in favour of the domestic leagues of Spain,
Italy, France an Germany, isn't exactly El Classico (although many
Glaswegians are Barcelona fans – think about it), but Partick Thistle v
St Mirren can still be an exciting and well-matched contest even with
out the circus stunts and overpaid prime donne south of Gretna, and we
can buy a ticket without having to take out a second mortgage. We aren't
hung up on old grievances, we aren't full of a sense of entitlement
denied, of bitterness and petty mean-mindedness towards friendly
countries we once fought a war with, sneering at them in defeat even
though the few remaining combatants in that war are now very old. We are
not hung up about how we once had an empire and should have it back. We
would be quite content being a middling European country the size of
Denmark or Finland but with oil, working in cooperation with our
neighbours and friends instead of trying vainly to outdo them.

We are neutral, and free to do the sensible thing; watch the football
and enjoy it for what it is, and hope the best team wins. Although we
may wish to root for one of the countries with which we have ancient
historical ties – that would be France, Denmark or Sweden, then. Perhaps
the worst result from our point of view would be an England win, in
which case we'll have to put up with years of hysterical hype about
"our" triumph.
BrritSki
2018-06-29 13:23:07 UTC
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If England decide to aim for a tactical loss against Belgium, will the
caledonian fans then be rooting for England to win?
Oh, it's a tactical loss now, is it? Not being beaten by a better team.
From Caledonia...
Go on then, I'll bite...

"It is never difficult to distinguish between a Scot [1] with a
grievance and a ray of sunshine." PG Wodehouse.

[1] Even an adopted one !

PS Scotland had an empire ? Who knew ???? ;)
Serena Blanchflower
2018-06-29 19:07:40 UTC
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If England decide to aim for a tactical loss against Belgium, will
the caledonian fans then be rooting for England to win?
Oh, it's a tactical loss now, is it? Not being beaten by a better team.
 From Caledonia...
Go on then, I'll bite...
"It is never difficult to distinguish between a Scot [1] with a
grievance and a ray of sunshine." PG Wodehouse.
[1] Even an adopted one !
PS   Scotland had an empire ?   Who knew ????  ;)
A great many Scots (including a number of my ancestors) spent their
lives working in far flung parts of the empire.
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2018-06-30 00:16:56 UTC
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On Fri, 29 Jun 2018 20:07:40 +0100, Serena Blanchflower
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A great many Scots (including a number of my ancestors) spent their
lives working in far flung parts of the empire.
And Welsh, and Irish. Which is why it never ceases to hack me off
when others refer to the "English empire". Yet nobody ever harps on
about all the other empires, which tended to have a far more bloody
history.
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BrritSki
2018-06-30 06:19:56 UTC
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On Fri, 29 Jun 2018 20:07:40 +0100, Serena Blanchflower
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A great many Scots (including a number of my ancestors) spent their
lives working in far flung parts of the empire.
And Welsh, and Irish. Which is why it never ceases to hack me off
when others refer to the "English empire".
Apart from Bob Dylan [1] I don't know of anyone who refers to it like
that. Always British ime, and the contribution by Scots (and Welsh and
Irish) is very well known.

[1] Yes, I know it might be evenin's empire has returned into sand, but
in my Mondegreen it was always England.
Vicky Ayech
2018-06-30 07:03:35 UTC
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On Sat, 30 Jun 2018 01:16:56 +0100, Fenny
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On Fri, 29 Jun 2018 20:07:40 +0100, Serena Blanchflower
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A great many Scots (including a number of my ancestors) spent their
lives working in far flung parts of the empire.
And Welsh, and Irish. Which is why it never ceases to hack me off
when others refer to the "English empire". Yet nobody ever harps on
about all the other empires, which tended to have a far more bloody
history.
I haven't heard it called English Empire, but British Empire.
Btms
2018-06-30 08:56:40 UTC
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On Fri, 29 Jun 2018 20:07:40 +0100, Serena Blanchflower
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A great many Scots (including a number of my ancestors) spent their
lives working in far flung parts of the empire.
And Welsh, and Irish. Which is why it never ceases to hack me off
when others refer to the "English empire". Yet nobody ever harps on
about all the other empires, which tended to have a far more bloody
history.
Really? I have heard of the British Empire but not English. Very
interesting.
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John Ashby
2018-06-29 21:20:43 UTC
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If England decide to aim for a tactical loss against Belgium, will
the caledonian fans then be rooting for England to win?
Oh, it's a tactical loss now, is it? Not being beaten by a better team.
 From Caledonia...
Go on then, I'll bite...
"It is never difficult to distinguish between a Scot [1] with a
grievance and a ray of sunshine." PG Wodehouse.
[1] Even an adopted one !
PS   Scotland had an empire ?   Who knew ????  ;)
Of course they did, it was the toughest house to play in Glasgow.

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2018-06-29 14:22:20 UTC
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If England decide to aim for a tactical loss against Belgium, will the
caledonian fans then be rooting for England to win?
Oh, it's a tactical loss now, is it? Not being beaten by a better team.
Yes it was a cunning plan ;)
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2018-06-30 10:57:05 UTC
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If England decide to aim for a tactical loss against Belgium, will
the caledonian fans then be rooting for England to win?
Oh, it's a tactical loss now, is it? Not being beaten by a better team.
(I think that was being suggested before the actual match, on the basis
that it would result in an easier passage in the subsequent stages. But
since they'd still meet the stiffer opposition anyway, I can't see the
point. Academic now anyway.)
Post by Rosalind Mitchell
From Caledonia, which since I moved here three years ago has warmly
accepted me as one of her own, I can report that interest in the World
Cup is less than overwhelming. I can also report that many Scots are
frankly pissed off that every time they turn on the news they are being
told that "we", having beaten a couple of undistinguished also-ran
teams, are now apparently dead certs to lift the trophy. The BBC
So are many non-sport-obsessed English, fed up of this "we". And the
general spilling of the reporting beyond the sports section of the news.
(And I guess even those who _are_ interested in sport are finding the
foopball coverage excessive, or at least to the detriment of the
coverage of other sports.)
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Charter forbids it from broadcasting a peak-time world news broadcast
from a Scottish point of view,
Does it? If so I didn't know that. If so, it needs amending so be less
England-centric too. (And London-centric - the move to Salford doesn't
seem to have been as effective as one might have hoped in that respect.)
Post by Rosalind Mitchell
so of course a London POV prevails that barely acknowledges the
existence of anything north of the M25, never mind other countries, so
the prevailing attitude is that "we" are in the World Cup and of course
"we" are terribly excited.
In truth, our team isn't taking part. That's no big deal, we know our
national side is pretty crap, we know our domestic league, abandoned by
the Britain-wide media in favour of the domestic leagues of Spain,
Italy, France an Germany, isn't exactly El Classico (although many
Glaswegians are Barcelona fans – think about it), but Partick Thistle v
[My email client says that that dash after "fans" isn't ASCII. Odd.]
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St Mirren can still be an exciting and well-matched contest even with
out the circus stunts and overpaid prime donne south of Gretna, and we
Was that an Italian plural? If so, I'm impressed! [Though note that
there is a substantial part of England _north_ of Gretna, on the other
side of the country - though you can be forgiven over that, as I often
get the feeling that the majority of _English_ people are unaware of
that fact.]
Post by Rosalind Mitchell
can buy a ticket without having to take out a second mortgage. We
aren't hung up on old grievances, we aren't full of a sense of
entitlement denied, of bitterness and petty mean-mindedness towards
friendly countries we once fought a war with, sneering at them in
defeat even though the few remaining combatants in that war are now
very old.
Extremely well put. We have much in common with the French and German
people. (Their _officials_ have shown _some_ pettiness since we decided
we want out, but - although not an _excuse_ - I'd say that is to be
expected; and certainly far less than we'd have exhibited in similar
circumstances.)
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We are not hung up about how we once had an empire and should have it
Yes, that does get wearing. I'm not _aware_ of a similar hung-upness
about the former French or Dutch empires, which were quite substantial
(or the German one, though that was mostly contiguous); and as for the
Lithuanian one, we never hear a mention of it, despite it having been
huge!
Post by Rosalind Mitchell
back. We would be quite content being a middling European country the
size of Denmark or Finland but with oil, working in cooperation with
our neighbours and friends instead of trying vainly to outdo them.
We are neutral, and free to do the sensible thing; watch the football
and enjoy it for what it is, and hope the best team wins. Although we
Yes, the _enjoyment_ of the game as an entertainment doesn't seem to get
much coverage.
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may wish to root for one of the countries with which we have ancient
historical ties – that would be France, Denmark or Sweden, then.
Perhaps the worst result from our point of view would be an England
win, in which case we'll have to put up with years of hysterical hype
about "our" triumph.
Yes - on balance, I too am inclined towards not wanting an England win
_for that reason_. Although not a foopball follower, I guess I _would_
like "us" to win the thing - but, we'd never hear the end of it, and I'd
be extremely bored by that (after more than a couple of days, anyway).
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Serena Blanchflower
2018-06-30 12:20:11 UTC
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Was that an Italian plural? If so, I'm impressed! [Though note that
there is a substantial part of England _north_ of Gretna, on the other
side of the country - though you can be forgiven over that, as I often
get the feeling that the majority of _English_ people are unaware of
that fact.]
But how many over-paid footballers are in that section of England? I
rather doubt there are any, in which case Rosie was right first time.
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2018-07-01 16:15:30 UTC
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So are many non-sport-obsessed English, fed up of this "we". And the
general spilling of the reporting beyond the sports section of the news.
(And I guess even those who _are_ interested in sport are finding the
foopball coverage excessive, or at least to the detriment of the
coverage of other sports.)
Wait til the tennis starts next week! Not all of us like the same
sports and tennis is definitely top of my "Do not want" list.
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Wait til the tennis starts next week! Not all of us like the same
sports and tennis is definitely top of my "Do not want" list.
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Same here, Fenny. I am going away next week to hide while Jill watches tennis 24/7.
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2018-07-01 21:23:54 UTC
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Wait til the tennis starts next week! Not all of us like the same
sports and tennis is definitely top of my "Do not want" list.
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Same here, Fenny. I am going away next week to hide while Jill watches tennis 24/7.
I wish I knew more about cricket. I feel I miss out. I tolerate and
sometimes enjoy most sport whilst not much caring who wins, the one I
really can’t engage with at any level (of those on mainstream TV, is motor
racing. A close second is snooker. Of course there are plenty of non TV
sports I also cba with.
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Wait til the tennis starts next week! Not all of us like the same
sports and tennis is definitely top of my "Do not want" list.
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Same here, Fenny. I am going away next week to hide while Jill watches tennis 24/7.
Any flapjacks? Igmc
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2018-07-02 18:18:06 UTC
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Wait til the tennis starts next week! Not all of us like the same
sports and tennis is definitely top of my "Do not want" list.
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Same here, Fenny. I am going away next week to hide while Jill watches tennis 24/7.
At least my household has no ability to watch tennis. I can listen to
the footy on the radio.
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2018-07-02 21:38:12 UTC
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Wait til the tennis starts next week! Not all of us like the same
sports and tennis is definitely top of my "Do not want" list.
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Same here, Fenny. I am going away next week to hide while Jill watches tennis 24/7.
Or not. She has just broken her wrist, tripping on tha bank of round stones between carpark and sand at Duffryn Ardudwy beach. So I am needed here to drive.
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2018-07-02 21:47:31 UTC
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Wait til the tennis starts next week! Not all of us like the same
sports and tennis is definitely top of my "Do not want" list.
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Fenny
Same here, Fenny. I am going away next week to hide while Jill watches tennis 24/7.
Or not. She has just broken her wrist, tripping on tha bank of round stones between carpark and sand at Duffryn Ardudwy beach. So I am needed here to drive.
Ouch! Best wishes for a speedy recovery. And good luck with avoiding
the tennis.
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2018-07-03 07:59:47 UTC
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Wait til the tennis starts next week! Not all of us like the same
sports and tennis is definitely top of my "Do not want" list.
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Fenny
Same here, Fenny. I am going away next week to hide while Jill watches tennis 24/7.
Or not. She has just broken her wrist, tripping on tha bank of round stones between carpark and sand at Duffryn Ardudwy beach. So I am needed here to drive.
Ouch! Best wishes for a speedy recovery. And good luck with avoiding
the tennis.
He will be too busy doing all the things she can't do because of the
broken wrist to watch tennis. I hope she is feeling better and heals
fast.
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Wait til the tennis starts next week! Not all of us like the same
sports and tennis is definitely top of my "Do not want" list.
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Same here, Fenny. I am going away next week to hide while Jill watches tennis 24/7.
Or not. She has just broken her wrist, tripping on tha bank of round
stones between carpark and sand at Duffryn Ardudwy beach. So I am needed here to drive.
Ouch! Best wishes for a speedy recovery. And good luck with avoiding
the tennis.
He will be too busy doing all the things she can't do because of the
broken wrist to watch tennis. I hope she is feeling better and heals
fast.
*Ouch*, get well soon Mrs Tony - no that’s not right either. :)

Sincerely Chris
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Wait til the tennis starts next week! Not all of us like the same
sports and tennis is definitely top of my "Do not want" list.
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Same here, Fenny. I am going away next week to hide while Jill watches tennis 24/7.
Or not. She has just broken her wrist, tripping on tha bank of round
stones between carpark and sand at Duffryn Ardudwy beach. So I am needed here to drive.
Ouch! Best wishes for a speedy recovery. And good luck with avoiding
the tennis.
He will be too busy doing all the things she can't do because of the
broken wrist to watch tennis. I hope she is feeling better and heals
fast.
*Ouch*, get well soon Mrs Tony - no that’s not right either. :)
Sincerely Chris
Thanks. Jill will not be driving for several weeks, which probably abolishes our holiday drving to Bavaria as we arranged the stages assuming shared driving.
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Or not. She has just broken her wrist, tripping on tha bank of
round stones between carpark and sand at Duffryn Ardudwy beach. So
I am needed here to drive.
Ouch! Best wishes for a speedy recovery. And good luck with
avoiding the tennis.
He will be too busy doing all the things she can't do because of the
broken wrist to watch tennis. I hope she is feeling better and heals
fast.
*Ouch*, get well soon Mrs Tony - no that’s not right either. :)
Thanks. Jill will not be driving for several weeks, which probably
abolishes our holiday drving to Bavaria as we arranged the stages
assuming shared driving.
That's a shame. I do all the driving on our holidays (ultimate
destination Munich this year) as other half doesn't know left from right
at the best of times and will not consider driving abroad. I limit each
day to about 3½ hours driving (according to Google maps) which allows a
bit of sightseeing to break the monotony.

OH broke her wrist in Feb 2017. It takes a while to recover.
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Or not. She has just broken her wrist, tripping on tha bank of
round stones between carpark and sand at Duffryn Ardudwy beach. So
I am needed here to drive.
Ouch! Best wishes for a speedy recovery. And good luck with
avoiding the tennis.
He will be too busy doing all the things she can't do because of the
broken wrist to watch tennis. I hope she is feeling better and heals
fast.
*Ouch*, get well soon Mrs Tony - no that’s not right either. :)
Thanks. Jill will not be driving for several weeks, which probably
abolishes our holiday drving to Bavaria as we arranged the stages
assuming shared driving.
That's a shame. I do all the driving on our holidays (ultimate
destination Munich this year) as other half doesn't know left from right
at the best of times and will not consider driving abroad. I limit each
day to about 3½ hours driving (according to Google maps) which allows a
bit of sightseeing to break the monotony.
OH broke her wrist in Feb 2017. It takes a while to recover.
Deep, deep sympathies. I broke my left wrist really badly in 2015 and my
right one this February, but much less catastrophically. The left one
took about 6 months to get the movement back, but only a few weeks for
the right wrist. The physio really matters. FWIW I drove the day after
my plaster came off in both cases. Even wih the left wrist I was able to
share the drive to France with my husband a few months later. So all may
not be lost. Bon courage, Jill. Or perhaps Sei nur munter, as it's Bavaria.

The worst thing was not being able to do my hair, which is long - my
husband had to learn how to brush it properly and then put up a
ponytail. This wasn't a happy experience.
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The worst thing was not being able to do my hair, which is long - my
husband had to learn how to brush it properly and then put up a
ponytail. This wasn't a happy experience.
I broke my right wrist - not badly - in the Christmas holidays of my
last year at college. The biggest issues using my left hand was
wiping my bum!

Also, very difficult to achieve with one hand unable to grip and
wearing a sling are things like using a butterfly-style tin opener or
fastening a bra.

My tutor managed to get me extensions or oral presentations for most
of my assignments, but wouldn't give me any longer for his very long
and convoluted set of consolidated accounts.

I failed my driving test, which was the day after I got my cast off
and I hadn't driven for more than 8 weeks.
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The worst thing was not being able to do my hair, which is long - my
husband had to learn how to brush it properly and then put up a
ponytail. This wasn't a happy experience.
I broke my right wrist - not badly - in the Christmas holidays of my
last year at college. The biggest issues using my left hand was
wiping my bum!
Also, very difficult to achieve with one hand unable to grip and
wearing a sling are things like using a butterfly-style tin opener or
fastening a bra.
My tutor managed to get me extensions or oral presentations for most
of my assignments, but wouldn't give me any longer for his very long
and convoluted set of consolidated accounts.
I failed my driving test, which was the day after I got my cast off
and I hadn't driven for more than 8 weeks.
Oh yes, bum-wiping, that's tricky too, though not impossible, thank
heavens :) The bra thing was a nightmare, until I found some amazing
pull-on ones, a bit like Sloggis but with larger cups and much more
support. They were brilliant and of course no one makes them any more.
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2018-07-05 11:13:05 UTC
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The bra thing was a nightmare, until I found some amazing
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pull-on ones, a bit like Sloggis but with larger cups and much more
support. They were brilliant and of course no one makes them any more.
When he is a student a man learns how to unfasten a bra but not to do it up again. That has to be learned when he has a wife with a broken wrist.
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2018-07-05 13:09:02 UTC
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The bra thing was a nightmare, until I found some amazing
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pull-on ones, a bit like Sloggis but with larger cups and much more
support. They were brilliant and of course no one makes them any more.
When he is a student a man learns how to unfasten a bra but not to do it
up again. That has to be learned when he has a wife with a broken wrist.
A speciality of Niggle as I recall, he practiced on Shula I think.
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2018-07-05 07:52:45 UTC
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So all may
not be lost. Bon courage, Jill. Or perhaps Sei nur munter, as it's Bavaria.
Or even "seid nur munter", to address us both.

Ferry to Hook of Holland cancelled for trifling penalty (£3 each way), intermediate stops both ways in Speyer cancelled for no charge but the Ferienwohnung in Bad Wiessee on the Tegernsee is trying to relet itself before calculating cancellation charge.
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2018-07-05 08:37:13 UTC
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So all may
not be lost. Bon courage, Jill. Or perhaps Sei nur munter, as it's Bavaria.
Or even "seid nur munter", to address us both.
Ferry to Hook of Holland cancelled for trifling penalty (£3 each way), intermediate stops both ways in Speyer cancelled for no charge but the Ferienwohnung in Bad Wiessee on the Tegernsee is trying to relet itself before calculating cancellation charge.
As long as they are honest about admitting if they manage to re-let
it. We had a house in Kissimmee for some years, managed by an agency.
We ended up paying for mortgage and management most years and wondered
whether they just didn't tell us the times they let it.
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2018-07-05 11:34:51 UTC
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The worst thing was not being able to do my hair, which is long - my
husband had to learn how to brush it properly and then put up a
ponytail. This wasn't a happy experience.
I can imagine - I think in those circs I'd get a very short cut again - it
amazes me how quickly hair grows.
I've never broken a bone (tempting fate here) but have had other problems
with wrist/elbow/arm and it was going to the toilet which caused the most
problems.
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2018-07-05 13:10:27 UTC
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The worst thing was not being able to do my hair, which is long - my
husband had to learn how to brush it properly and then put up a
ponytail. This wasn't a happy experience.
I can imagine - I think in those circs I'd get a very short cut again - it
amazes me how quickly hair grows.
I've never broken a bone (tempting fate here) but have had other problems
with wrist/elbow/arm and it was going to the toilet which caused the most
problems.
But, but, but... don’t you keep staff to carry out such functions?!
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2018-07-05 17:08:30 UTC
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I've never broken a bone (tempting fate here) but have had other problems
with wrist/elbow/arm and it was going to the toilet which caused the most
problems.
But, but, but... don’t you keep staff to carry out such functions?!
You need to watch for splinters!

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2018-07-05 17:16:17 UTC
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I've never broken a bone (tempting fate here) but have had other problems
with wrist/elbow/arm and it was going to the toilet which caused the most
problems.
But, but, but... don’t you keep staff to carry out such functions?!
You need to watch for splinters!
Chris
I think that Lynda may be able to help with this .... err... aspect.
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2018-07-05 07:40:55 UTC
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So are many non-sport-obsessed English, fed up of this "we". And the
general spilling of the reporting beyond the sports section of the news.
I've been away from home (but not out of Britain*) and have largely managed
to avoid the foopball, although I did have a meal at a table outside a
restaurant next to a very noisy pub where I guess they were showing a game.

* some years ago we were on Gozo during a World Cup. The hotel lounge had a
huge TV showing a match (from Italian TV) and the girls and I went for a
wander down to the sea to escape it. We heard every goal yelled about from
every hotel in the town - no escape.
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2018-07-05 08:15:34 UTC
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* some years ago we were on Gozo during a World Cup. The hotel lounge had a
huge TV showing a match (from Italian TV) and the girls and I went for a
wander down to the sea to escape it. We heard every goal yelled about from
every hotel in the town - no escape.
But its a small town isn ‘t it?

[]

We have decided to join in with it and to our surprise are enjoying it.
Haven ‘t managed the same yet with the tennis. Work in progress. 🤨
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2018-07-05 11:43:43 UTC
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* some years ago we were on Gozo during a World Cup. The hotel lounge had a
huge TV showing a match (from Italian TV) and the girls and I went for a
wander down to the sea to escape it. We heard every goal yelled about from
every hotel in the town - no escape.
But its a small town isn ‘t it?
All towns on Gozo are small. We were in Marsalforn which curves around the
bay but we walked out to the point and were surprised the sound carried
there.
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2018-07-05 11:58:41 UTC
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I've been away from home (but not out of Britain*) and have largely managed
to avoid the foopball, although I did have a meal at a table outside a
restaurant next to a very noisy pub where I guess they were showing a game.
In this weather, you don't even need to be near a pub to follow the
game. I've had a reasonable idea of how each of our games has been
going, from the intermittent cheers / groans I can hear from people
either watching in their gardens or through open windows.
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2018-06-29 11:59:50 UTC
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I rather liked the report I have now seen twice from the BBC Korean
correspondent: apparently the BBC offices are next door to the German
embassy; when asked what they were saying in there, she said she
thought it was "don't mention the football".
As Andy Zaltzman said on TMS, yesterday was surely one of the greatest
days in the history of English football.
That kind of mean-spiritedness is unworthy of Umra and I'm afraid it's
especially unworthy of you, Sid. I'm disappointed in you.
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2018-06-30 08:27:40 UTC
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I rather liked the report I have now seen twice from the BBC Korean
correspondent: apparently the BBC offices are next door to the German
embassy; when asked what they were saying in there, she said she
thought it was "don't mention the football".
As Andy Zaltzman said on TMS, yesterday was surely one of the greatest
days in the history of English football.
That kind of mean-spiritedness is unworthy of Umra and I'm afraid it's
especially unworthy of you, Sid. I'm disappointed in you.
Sorry to disappoint, Rosie, but when it comes to Germany at football,
France at rugby[1] and Australia at any sport but especially cricket[2],
normal generosity of spirit ceases to apply. Them's just the rules, I'm
afraid. :o)

[1] And this is in spite of my having the greatest respect for an awful
lot of French rugby players individually. It's just the way it is.
[2] Ditto a fair number of Australian cricketers - Adam Gilchrist for
example, who was a brilliant player and a dashed good egg, as
demonstrated again recently on TMS.
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I rather liked the report I have now seen twice from the BBC Korean
correspondent: apparently the BBC offices are next door to the German
embassy; when asked what they were saying in there, she said she
thought it was "don't mention the football".
As Andy Zaltzman said on TMS, yesterday was surely one of the greatest
days in the history of English football.
That kind of mean-spiritedness is unworthy of Umra and I'm afraid it's
especially unworthy of you, Sid. I'm disappointed in you.
Sorry to disappoint, Rosie, but when it comes to Germany at football,
France at rugby[1] and Australia at any sport but especially cricket[2],
normal generosity of spirit ceases to apply. Them's just the rules, I'm
afraid. :o)
[1] And this is in spite of my having the greatest respect for an awful
lot of French rugby players individually. It's just the way it is.
[2] Ditto a fair number of Australian cricketers - Adam Gilchrist for
example, who was a brilliant player and a dashed good egg, as
demonstrated again recently on TMS.
Quite. Let’s face it, we don’t have many “fine days” to record. Btw no
idea whether this was football or cricket.
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2018-06-30 09:32:53 UTC
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I rather liked the report I have now seen twice from the BBC Korean
correspondent: apparently the BBC offices are next door to the German
embassy; when asked what they were saying in there, she said she
thought it was "don't mention the football".
As Andy Zaltzman said on TMS, yesterday was surely one of the greatest
days in the history of English football.
That kind of mean-spiritedness is unworthy of Umra and I'm afraid it's
especially unworthy of you, Sid. I'm disappointed in you.
Sorry to disappoint, Rosie, but when it comes to Germany at football,
France at rugby[1] and Australia at any sport but especially cricket[2],
normal generosity of spirit ceases to apply. Them's just the rules, I'm
afraid. :o)
[1] And this is in spite of my having the greatest respect for an awful
lot of French rugby players individually. It's just the way it is.
[2] Ditto a fair number of Australian cricketers - Adam Gilchrist for
example, who was a brilliant player and a dashed good egg, as
demonstrated again recently on TMS.
Quite. Let’s face it, we don’t have many “fine days” to record. Btw no
idea whether this was football or cricket.
Not quite as simple as that, I'm afraid. Germany were ignominiously
knocked out of the (football) World Cup by South Korea. My (and many
others') pleasure was pure, vidictive schadenfreude, for which I ought
to be heartily ashamed, as Rosie says. But I'm not. :o)
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I rather liked the report I have now seen twice from the BBC Korean
correspondent: apparently the BBC offices are next door to the German
embassy; when asked what they were saying in there, she said she
thought it was "don't mention the football".
As Andy Zaltzman said on TMS, yesterday was surely one of the greatest
days in the history of English football.
That kind of mean-spiritedness is unworthy of Umra and I'm afraid it's
especially unworthy of you, Sid. I'm disappointed in you.
Sorry to disappoint, Rosie, but when it comes to Germany at football,
France at rugby[1] and Australia at any sport but especially cricket[2],
normal generosity of spirit ceases to apply. Them's just the rules, I'm
afraid. :o)
[1] And this is in spite of my having the greatest respect for an awful
lot of French rugby players individually. It's just the way it is.
[2] Ditto a fair number of Australian cricketers - Adam Gilchrist for
example, who was a brilliant player and a dashed good egg, as
demonstrated again recently on TMS.
Quite. Let’s face it, we don’t have many “fine days” to record. Btw no
idea whether this was football or cricket.
Not quite as simple as that, I'm afraid. Germany were ignominiously
knocked out of the (football) World Cup by South Korea. My (and many
others') pleasure was pure, vidictive schadenfreude, for which I ought
to be heartily ashamed, as Rosie says. But I'm not. :o)
😊 at least its honest. False acceptance and its relatives are often more
transparent than the presenters realise.
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I rather liked the report I have now seen twice from the BBC Korean
correspondent: apparently the BBC offices are next door to the German
embassy; when asked what they were saying in there, she said she
thought it was "don't mention the football".
As Andy Zaltzman said on TMS, yesterday was surely one of the greatest
days in the history of English football.
That kind of mean-spiritedness is unworthy of Umra and I'm afraid it's
especially unworthy of you, Sid. I'm disappointed in you.
Sorry to disappoint, Rosie, but when it comes to Germany at football,
France at rugby[1] and Australia at any sport but especially cricket[2],
normal generosity of spirit ceases to apply.  Them's just the rules, I'm
afraid.  :o)
[1] And this is in spite of my having the greatest respect for an awful
lot of French rugby players individually.  It's just the way it is.
[2] Ditto a fair number of Australian cricketers - Adam Gilchrist for
example, who was a brilliant player and a dashed good egg, as
demonstrated again recently on TMS.
Quite.  Let’s face it, we don’t have many “fine days” to record.  Btw no
idea whether this was football or cricket.
Not quite as simple as that, I'm afraid.  Germany were ignominiously
knocked out of the (football) World Cup by South Korea.  My (and many
others') pleasure was pure, vidictive schadenfreude, for which I ought
to be heartily ashamed, as Rosie says.  But I'm not.  :o)
Me neither. Loved it!
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I rather liked the report I have now seen twice from the BBC Korean
correspondent: apparently the BBC offices are next door to the
German embassy; when asked what they were saying in there, she said
she thought it was "don't mention the football".
As Andy Zaltzman said on TMS, yesterday was surely one of the
greatest days in the history of English football.
That kind of mean-spiritedness is unworthy of Umra and I'm afraid it's
especially unworthy of you, Sid. I'm disappointed in you.
Sorry to disappoint, Rosie, but when it comes to Germany at football,
France at rugby[1] and Australia at any sport but especially cricket[2],
normal generosity of spirit ceases to apply.  Them's just the rules, I'm
afraid.  :o)
[1] And this is in spite of my having the greatest respect for an awful
lot of French rugby players individually.  It's just the way it is.
[2] Ditto a fair number of Australian cricketers - Adam Gilchrist for
example, who was a brilliant player and a dashed good egg, as
demonstrated again recently on TMS.
I'll see your Adam Gilchrist and raise you a Jurgen Klinsmann. Dude.
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I rather liked the report I have now seen twice from the BBC Korean
correspondent: apparently the BBC offices are next door to the German
embassy; when asked what they were saying in there, she said she
thought it was "don't mention the football".
As Andy Zaltzman said on TMS, yesterday was surely one of the
greatest days in the history of English football.
That kind of mean-spiritedness is unworthy of Umra and I'm afraid it's
especially unworthy of you, Sid. I'm disappointed in you.
Yes, I was surprised too. I think the "don't mention the" was just a
humorous use of a meme; the later comment seems - well, just nasty is
the word that comes to mind.

However, unlike Sid I didn't actually hear AZ say it; it is entirely
possible that it was said completely tongue-in-cheek (actually seems
likely: the German defeat didn't even involve us, after all!), and Sid
picked up on that, but the irony didn't come through in Sid's relaying.
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I rather liked the report I have now seen twice from the BBC Korean
correspondent: apparently the BBC offices are next door to the
German embassy; when asked what they were saying in there, she said
she thought it was "don't mention the football".
 As Andy Zaltzman said on TMS, yesterday was surely one of the
greatest  days in the history of English football.
That kind of mean-spiritedness is unworthy of Umra and I'm afraid it's
especially unworthy of you, Sid. I'm disappointed in you.
Yes, I was surprised too. I think the "don't mention the" was just a
humorous use of a meme; the later comment seems - well, just nasty is
the word that comes to mind.
However, unlike Sid I didn't actually hear AZ say it; it is entirely
possible that it was said completely tongue-in-cheek (actually seems
likely: the German defeat didn't even involve us, after all!), and Sid
picked up on that, but the irony didn't come through in Sid's relaying.
Andy Zaltzman is a standup comedian as well as being the TMS scorer and
statistician for One Day Internationals. Yes, it was a joke which
raised a laugh in the TMS box and from me; of course it wasn't literally
one of the greatest days in the history of English football, but it's a
funny line because, after all these years of football rivalry and losing
to Germany *again*, there's a grain of truth in it.
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I rather liked the report I have now seen twice from the BBC Korean
correspondent: apparently the BBC offices are next door to the
German embassy; when asked what they were saying in there, she said
she thought it was "don't mention the football".
 As Andy Zaltzman said on TMS, yesterday was surely one of the
greatest  days in the history of English football.
That kind of mean-spiritedness is unworthy of Umra and I'm afraid it's
especially unworthy of you, Sid. I'm disappointed in you.
Yes, I was surprised too. I think the "don't mention the" was just a
humorous use of a meme; the later comment seems - well, just nasty is
the word that comes to mind.
However, unlike Sid I didn't actually hear AZ say it; it is entirely
possible that it was said completely tongue-in-cheek (actually seems
likely: the German defeat didn't even involve us, after all!), and Sid
picked up on that, but the irony didn't come through in Sid's relaying.
Andy Zaltzman is a standup comedian as well as being the TMS scorer and
statistician for One Day Internationals. Yes, it was a joke which
raised a laugh in the TMS box and from me; of course it wasn't literally
one of the greatest days in the history of English football, but it's a
funny line because, after all these years of football rivalry and losing
to Germany *again*, there's a grain of truth in it.
But many folk were missing when the irony cells were issued.
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I rather liked the report I have now seen twice from the BBC Korean
correspondent: apparently the BBC offices are next door to the
German embassy; when asked what they were saying in there, she said
she thought it was "don't mention the football".
 As Andy Zaltzman said on TMS, yesterday was surely one of the
greatest  days in the history of English football.
That kind of mean-spiritedness is unworthy of Umra and I'm afraid
it's especially unworthy of you, Sid. I'm disappointed in you.
Yes, I was surprised too. I think the "don't mention the" was just a
humorous use of a meme; the later comment seems - well, just nasty is
the word that comes to mind.
However, unlike Sid I didn't actually hear AZ say it; it is entirely
possible that it was said completely tongue-in-cheek (actually seems
likely: the German defeat didn't even involve us, after all!), and Sid
picked up on that, but the irony didn't come through in Sid's relaying.
Andy Zaltzman is a standup comedian as well as being the TMS scorer and
statistician for One Day Internationals.  Yes, it was a joke which
raised a laugh in the TMS box and from me; of course it wasn't literally
one of the greatest days in the history of English football, but it's a
funny line because, after all these years of football rivalry and losing
to Germany *again*, there's a grain of truth in it.
According to the Sunday Times, the popular joke in France is that having
won the WC 4 years ago "Germany are always better in '14 than '18".

So, it's not just us :)
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