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Vicky
2018-04-18 08:43:14 UTC
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I got this today from google maps. I stopped 2/3 of the way home from
Peckham, visiting #2 daughter, because I needed a loo. I knew there
were places before the M1 and thought the place was a pub, but it was
a restaurant. They refused to met me so I went a bit further, over the
road, to the pizza/Italian I've been to a few times with #1 daughter
and kids, and there was no problem. And they were humming, Saturday
evening. The Carob was empty. So NER! 50 people might not go there
now.

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People like your review Congratulations, your review helped people
over 50 times! Millions of people rely on reviews like yours to learn
what places are like.
Carob Tree March 24, 2018 ????? Went in to use the loo.They refused to
let me. Said customers only. I will not now become ...
54 people saw your review! People like your review Congratulations,
your review helped people over 50 times! Millions of people rely on
reviews like yours to learn what places are like.

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I've done a few bad reviews too when we've had bad service or food and
usually get the offer to some back again for a meal. Sadly with one
place that would have treated a party of 6 of us, they closed before I
saw it!
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I've done a few bad reviews too when we've had bad service or food and
usually get the offer to some back again for a meal. Sadly with one
place that would have treated a party of 6 of us, they closed before I
saw it!
The power of the bad review...
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2018-04-18 09:57:09 UTC
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I've done a few bad reviews too when we've had bad service or food and
usually get the offer to some back again for a meal. Sadly with one
place that would have treated a party of 6 of us, they closed before I
saw it!
The power of the bad review...
I often see highly positive reviews, some OTT compared to my experiences.
I now think my views are largely at odds with the vast majority.
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Vicky
2018-04-18 10:16:22 UTC
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I've done a few bad reviews too when we've had bad service or food and
usually get the offer to some back again for a meal. Sadly with one
place that would have treated a party of 6 of us, they closed before I
saw it!
The power of the bad review...
I often see highly positive reviews, some OTT compared to my experiences.
I now think my views are largely at odds with the vast majority.
The one that closed was bad because we went post Xmas, 27th I think,
and whole family met and some food was not available and one person's
had to be sent back twice as it was frozen inside!

One I felt a bit bad about but did say how lovely the staff were and
the starter. But #2 daughter and I are used to excellent schnitzels
from her, me and my mum and those we got were thin and dry. It was the
German Gym at Kings Cross. They offered a free meal too but we never
went for it. Does anyone? Would they spit in it?
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krw
2018-04-18 10:30:06 UTC
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It was the
German Gym at Kings Cross. They offered a free meal too but we never
went for it. Does anyone? Would they spit in it?
Wofe reviews online. We went for lunch at a well known upmarket
restaurant which has a long history. We had seen the online menu but on
the day we went it had changed completely and lacked anything of real
interest and presumably to achieve the charged price the portion size of
the main course chicken was laughable.

We were invited back for them to try and put things right and whilst the
meal was better they managed to serve me warm milk for my coffee.

We sometimes wonder if they were simply having bad days and poor staff
or if we were unlucky. But we are not tempted to return.

I have a problem that plates are not always served sufficiently warm -
so the food is cold by the end of the course.
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LFS
2018-04-18 11:06:07 UTC
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It was the
German Gym at Kings Cross. They offered a free meal too but we never
went for it.  Does anyone? Would they spit in it?
Wofe reviews online.  We went for lunch at a well known upmarket
restaurant which has a long history.  We had seen the online menu but on
the day we went it had changed completely and lacked anything of real
interest and presumably to achieve the charged price the portion size of
the main course chicken was laughable.
We were invited back for them to try and put things right and whilst the
meal was better they managed to serve me warm milk for my coffee.
We sometimes wonder if they were simply having bad days and poor staff
or if we were unlucky.  But we are not tempted to return.
I have a problem that plates are not always served sufficiently warm -
so the food is cold by the end of the course.
Even worse if it's not on a plate...

Apart from the disgusting conference food I experienced last week, the
last really bad meal I had was at the Savoy on my birthday last year. My
menu choice was described as a very fancy sort of fish omelette. It had
not arrived by the time the rest of the party were halfway through their
meals. When it did arrive it was nothing like an omelette but a dish of
curdled looking scrambled egg. I sent it back and they offered to cook
me something else but by that time I was no longer in the mood. We had
dessert (mine arrived on plate piped with Happy Birthday in chocolate
sauce) and they didn't charge us for that or the expensive wine but we
were very disappointed as we've had good meals there before.

As we were leaving, the manager came after us and apologised and said he
hoped we would return. I smiled sweetly and said "Sorry, no chance." The
standard email arrived asking for feedback and mine was very detailed.

For this year's celebration Daughter has booked for us to eat at Oxbo on
Bankside on Sunday. Their Sunday Roast buffet includes unlimited
starters and desserts which sound very promising. I'm often quite happy
without a main course.
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Btms
2018-04-18 11:44:50 UTC
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It was the
German Gym at Kings Cross. They offered a free meal too but we never
went for it.  Does anyone? Would they spit in it?
Wofe reviews online.  We went for lunch at a well known upmarket
restaurant which has a long history.  We had seen the online menu but on
the day we went it had changed completely and lacked anything of real
interest and presumably to achieve the charged price the portion size of
the main course chicken was laughable.
We were invited back for them to try and put things right and whilst the
meal was better they managed to serve me warm milk for my coffee.
We sometimes wonder if they were simply having bad days and poor staff
or if we were unlucky.  But we are not tempted to return.
I have a problem that plates are not always served sufficiently warm -
so the food is cold by the end of the course.
Even worse if it's not on a plate...
Apart from the disgusting conference food I experienced last week, the
last really bad meal I had was at the Savoy on my birthday last year. My
menu choice was described as a very fancy sort of fish omelette. It had
not arrived by the time the rest of the party were halfway through their
meals. When it did arrive it was nothing like an omelette but a dish of
curdled looking scrambled egg. I sent it back and they offered to cook
me something else but by that time I was no longer in the mood. We had
dessert (mine arrived on plate piped with Happy Birthday in chocolate
sauce) and they didn't charge us for that or the expensive wine but we
were very disappointed as we've had good meals there before.
As we were leaving, the manager came after us and apologised and said he
hoped we would return. I smiled sweetly and said "Sorry, no chance." The
standard email arrived asking for feedback and mine was very detailed.
For this year's celebration Daughter has booked for us to eat at Oxbo on
Bankside on Sunday. Their Sunday Roast buffet includes unlimited
starters and desserts which sound very promising. I'm often quite happy
without a main course.
I have heard good feedback on the oxo tower. Hope its good. Does Ramsey
still run the Savoy grill?
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krw
2018-04-18 11:53:17 UTC
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I have heard good feedback on the oxo tower. Hope its good. Does Ramsey
still run the Savoy grill?
The Oxo Tower was very good when we ate there a few years ago.

We were disappointed when we ate at Kaspars in the Savoy - it looks good
but the food did not quite measure up. Never ate in the Savoy Grill. I
liked Simpsons in the Strand but I think my favourite is Rules.

I used to love L'Escargot but it changed hands and I am not sure if it
would retain my warm feelings if I visited it now.
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2018-04-18 14:18:04 UTC
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I think my favourite is Rules.
I have good memories of a meal at Rules - I was a child at the time and it
may well have been the first meal I ever had 'out' with my father when he
found nothing to complain loudly about - very rare. I think he used to eat
there as a student.
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krw
2018-04-18 15:37:38 UTC
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I think my favourite is Rules.
I have good memories of a meal at Rules - I was a child at the time and it
may well have been the first meal I ever had 'out' with my father when he
found nothing to complain loudly about - very rare. I think he used to eat
there as a student.
It also has a very nice but probably not well known bar upstairs where
(along with the American Bar at the Savoy) I like use as a watering
hole. Prices are of course stratospheric.
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LFS
2018-04-18 16:12:15 UTC
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I think my favourite is Rules.
I have good memories of a meal at Rules - I was a child at the time and it
may well have been the first meal I ever had 'out' with my father when he
found nothing to complain loudly about - very rare. I think he used to eat
there as a student.
It also has a very nice but probably not well known bar upstairs where
(along with the American Bar at the Savoy) I like use as a watering
hole.  Prices are of course stratospheric.
I like the American Bar. The piano playing is always of very high
quality. There was a good pianist in the V&A restaurant the other day. I
had quite a long chat with him. I always think that, for good musicians,
playing in an environment where people are not listening must be a bit
soul-destroying but he said he was quite happy as it paid well enough
and he did lots of other gigs with more attentive audiences.
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Chris McMillan
2018-04-18 18:02:53 UTC
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I think my favourite is Rules.
I have good memories of a meal at Rules - I was a child at the time and it
may well have been the first meal I ever had 'out' with my father when he
found nothing to complain loudly about - very rare. I think he used to eat
there as a student.
It also has a very nice but probably not well known bar upstairs where
(along with the American Bar at the Savoy) I like use as a watering
hole.  Prices are of course stratospheric.
I like the American Bar. The piano playing is always of very high
quality. There was a good pianist in the V&A restaurant the other day. I
had quite a long chat with him. I always think that, for good musicians,
playing in an environment where people are not listening must be a bit
soul-destroying but he said he was quite happy as it paid well enough
and he did lots of other gigs with more attentive audiences.
Simon Townley, late of this parish? Anyone seen him about lately?

Sincerely Chris
Kate B
2018-04-18 20:15:26 UTC
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I think my favourite is Rules.
I have good memories of a meal at Rules - I was a child at the time and it
may well have been the first meal I ever had 'out' with my father when he
found nothing to complain loudly about - very rare. I think he used to eat
there as a student.
It also has a very nice but probably not well known bar upstairs where
(along with the American Bar at the Savoy) I like use as a watering
hole.  Prices are of course stratospheric.
I like the American Bar. The piano playing is always of very high
quality. There was a good pianist in the V&A restaurant the other day. I
had quite a long chat with him. I always think that, for good musicians,
playing in an environment where people are not listening must be a bit
soul-destroying but he said he was quite happy as it paid well enough
and he did lots of other gigs with more attentive audiences.
Simon Townley, late of this parish? Anyone seen him about lately?
Sincerely Chris
Still with the Pasadena Roof Orchestra, apparently. Would be nice to see
him back here.
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I think my favourite is Rules.
I have good memories of a meal at Rules - I was a child at the time and it
may well have been the first meal I ever had 'out' with my father when he
found nothing to complain loudly about - very rare. I think he used to eat
there as a student.
It also has a very nice but probably not well known bar upstairs where
(along with the American Bar at the Savoy) I like use as a watering
hole.  Prices are of course stratospheric.
I like the American Bar. The piano playing is always of very high
quality. There was a good pianist in the V&A restaurant the other day. I
had quite a long chat with him. I always think that, for good musicians,
playing in an environment where people are not listening must be a bit
soul-destroying but he said he was quite happy as it paid well enough
and he did lots of other gigs with more attentive audiences.
Simon Townley, late of this parish? Anyone seen him about lately?
Sincerely Chris
Still with the Pasadena Roof Orchestra, apparently. Would be nice to see
him back here.
Thanks. I hadn’t been able to find band members. And he’s not been on
radio for years.

Sincerely Chris
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2018-04-18 18:42:14 UTC
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I think my favourite is Rules.
I have good memories of a meal at Rules - I was a child at the time and it
may well have been the first meal I ever had 'out' with my father when he
found nothing to complain loudly about - very rare. I think he used to eat
there as a student.
It also has a very nice but probably not well known bar upstairs where
(along with the American Bar at the Savoy) I like use as a watering
hole.  Prices are of course stratospheric.
I like the American Bar. The piano playing is always of very high
quality. There was a good pianist in the V&A restaurant the other day. I
had quite a long chat with him. I always think that, for good musicians,
playing in an environment where people are not listening must be a bit
soul-destroying but he said he was quite happy as it paid well enough
and he did lots of other gigs with more attentive audiences.
I think my bother would agree with you. He generally referred to them
as "suits getting drunk" :(
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I like the American Bar. The piano playing is always of very high
quality. There was a good pianist in the V&A restaurant the other day. I
had quite a long chat with him. I always think that, for good musicians,
playing in an environment where people are not listening must be a bit
soul-destroying but he said he was quite happy as it paid well enough
and he did lots of other gigs with more attentive audiences.
I think my bother would agree with you. He generally referred to them
as "suits getting drunk" :(
The husgod played with a band (grandly called The Lounge Lizards Jazz
Orchestra) often booked to play through dinner before the dance element of
the evening. They would amuse themselves by picking up the average tempo of
soup-supping and, once most diners had aligned their supping with the
music, speed up :)
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I like the American Bar. The piano playing is always of very high
quality. There was a good pianist in the V&A restaurant the other day. I
had quite a long chat with him. I always think that, for good musicians,
playing in an environment where people are not listening must be a bit
soul-destroying but he said he was quite happy as it paid well enough
and he did lots of other gigs with more attentive audiences.
I think my bother would agree with you. He generally referred to them
as "suits getting drunk" :(
The husgod played with a band (grandly called The Lounge Lizards Jazz
Orchestra) often booked to play through dinner before the dance element of
the evening. They would amuse themselves by picking up the average tempo of
soup-supping and, once most diners had aligned their supping with the
music, speed up :)
My sister and I went to a jazz evening at her local pub recently. It
was by ticket only (at £12.50 this was VERY reasonable considering the
extensive buffet which was included) and was held in a small function
room. At the back of the room was a group of girls who chattered and
giggled loudly while the band was playing. Don't know why they bothered
to get tickets if they had so little interest in jaxx (which was
excellent) unless they knew in advance about the buffet and were only
there for the food.
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I like the American Bar. The piano playing is always of very high
quality. There was a good pianist in the V&A restaurant the other day. I
had quite a long chat with him. I always think that, for good musicians,
playing in an environment where people are not listening must be a bit
soul-destroying but he said he was quite happy as it paid well enough
and he did lots of other gigs with more attentive audiences.
I think my bother would agree with you. He generally referred to them
as "suits getting drunk" :(
The husgod played with a band (grandly called The Lounge Lizards Jazz
Orchestra) often booked to play through dinner before the dance element of
the evening. They would amuse themselves by picking up the average tempo of
soup-supping and, once most diners had aligned their supping with the
music, speed up :)
Excellent! I must try to remember to tell that to bother. I think he'd
approve :)
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I like the American Bar. The piano playing is always of very high
quality. There was a good pianist in the V&A restaurant the other day. I
had quite a long chat with him. I always think that, for good musicians,
playing in an environment where people are not listening must be a bit
soul-destroying but he said he was quite happy as it paid well enough
and he did lots of other gigs with more attentive audiences.
I think my bother would agree with you. He generally referred to them
as "suits getting drunk" :(
The husgod played with a band (grandly called The Lounge Lizards Jazz
Orchestra) often booked to play through dinner before the dance element of
the evening. They would amuse themselves by picking up the average tempo of
soup-supping and, once most diners had aligned their supping with the
music, speed up :)
Excellent! I must try to remember to tell that to bother. I think he'd
approve :)
I trust that one of the pieces played was Soup
ercalifragelisticespialidocious?
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I like the American Bar.
Well if we are ever in London at the same time?
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I like the American Bar.
Well if we are ever in London at the same time?
I can be in London almost any time, especially if you're paying :)
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Vicky
2018-04-19 10:45:23 UTC
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I think my favourite is Rules.
I have good memories of a meal at Rules - I was a child at the time and it
may well have been the first meal I ever had 'out' with my father when he
found nothing to complain loudly about - very rare. I think he used to eat
there as a student.
It also has a very nice but probably not well known bar upstairs where
(along with the American Bar at the Savoy) I like use as a watering
hole.  Prices are of course stratospheric.
I like the American Bar. The piano playing is always of very high
quality. There was a good pianist in the V&A restaurant the other day. I
had quite a long chat with him. I always think that, for good musicians,
playing in an environment where people are not listening must be a bit
soul-destroying but he said he was quite happy as it paid well enough
and he did lots of other gigs with more attentive audiences.
For my 16th birthday my mother and father's aunt took me to dinner at
the Savoy. Dinner was in a bar area. Not sure if the American. After
dinner we had a front row view from our table at the entertainment,
which was Marta Schlamme singing Brecht and Weil songs.

I've loved them ever since. I felt so sophisticated being at a dinner
with singing after wards, and that's still one of my preferred kinds
of theatre. We used to go to the King's Head ones in Islington for
some years, but those were more informal and so was the food.

I don't think I've been inside the hotel since :)
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It was the
German Gym at Kings Cross. They offered a free meal too but we never
went for it. Does anyone? Would they spit in it?
Wofe reviews online. We went for lunch at a well known upmarket
restaurant which has a long history. We had seen the online menu but on
the day we went it had changed completely and lacked anything of real
interest and presumably to achieve the charged price the portion size of
the main course chicken was laughable.
We were invited back for them to try and put things right and whilst the
meal was better they managed to serve me warm milk for my coffee.
We sometimes wonder if they were simply having bad days and poor staff
or if we were unlucky. But we are not tempted to return.
I have a problem that plates are not always served sufficiently warm -
so the food is cold by the end of the course.
Ime warm milk is the convention for coffee.
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It was the
German Gym at Kings Cross. They offered a free meal too but we never
went for it. Does anyone? Would they spit in it?
Wofe reviews online. We went for lunch at a well known upmarket
restaurant which has a long history. We had seen the online menu but on
the day we went it had changed completely and lacked anything of real
interest and presumably to achieve the charged price the portion size of
the main course chicken was laughable.
We were invited back for them to try and put things right and whilst the
meal was better they managed to serve me warm milk for my coffee.
We sometimes wonder if they were simply having bad days and poor staff
or if we were unlucky. But we are not tempted to return.
I have a problem that plates are not always served sufficiently warm -
so the food is cold by the end of the course.
Ime warm milk is the convention for coffee.
True - but there was only warm milk in the cup - no coffee at all.
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It was the
German Gym at Kings Cross. They offered a free meal too but we never
went for it. Does anyone? Would they spit in it?
Wofe reviews online. We went for lunch at a well known upmarket
restaurant which has a long history. We had seen the online menu but on
the day we went it had changed completely and lacked anything of real
interest and presumably to achieve the charged price the portion size of
the main course chicken was laughable.
We were invited back for them to try and put things right and whilst the
meal was better they managed to serve me warm milk for my coffee.
We sometimes wonder if they were simply having bad days and poor staff
or if we were unlucky. But we are not tempted to return.
I have a problem that plates are not always served sufficiently warm -
so the food is cold by the end of the course.
Ime warm milk is the convention for coffee.
True - but there was only warm milk in the cup - no coffee at all.
Oh dear! Very poor. 😤
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I got this today from google maps. I stopped 2/3 of the way home from
Peckham, visiting #2 daughter, because I needed a loo. I knew there
were places before the M1 and thought the place was a pub, but it was
a restaurant. They refused to met me so I went a bit further, over the
road, to the pizza/Italian I've been to a few times with #1 daughter
and kids, and there was no problem. And they were humming...
Well if they let any Tom, Dick and Vicky use their facilities it's no
wonder they're humming, probably don't have time to clean them ! ;)
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I needed a loo. I knew there
were places before the M1 and thought the place was a pub, but it was
a restaurant. They refused to met me so I went a bit further, over the
road, to the pizza/Italian I've been to a few times with #1 daughter
and kids, and there was no problem. And they were humming, Saturday
evening. The Carob was empty. So NER! 50 people might not go there
now.
Forgot to comment on this bit earlier.
The empty place probably refused because they were empty. I've been
grumbled at in pubs for using the loo and not buying anything but now use a
Wetherspoons if I can find one. They tend to have rather nice loos
(although often upstairs), often accessible without entering the bar at
all. But if you do need to go through the bar to get there they are usually
so busy they don't notice.
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I needed a loo. I knew there
were places before the M1 and thought the place was a pub, but it was
a restaurant. They refused to met me so I went a bit further, over the
road, to the pizza/Italian I've been to a few times with #1 daughter
and kids, and there was no problem. And they were humming, Saturday
evening. The Carob was empty. So NER! 50 people might not go there
now.
Forgot to comment on this bit earlier.
The empty place probably refused because they were empty. I've been
grumbled at in pubs for using the loo and not buying anything but now use a
Wetherspoons if I can find one. They tend to have rather nice loos
(although often upstairs), often accessible without entering the bar at
all. But if you do need to go through the bar to get there they are usually
so busy they don't notice.
Tip for central London: go to the nearest good hotel, march in
confidently as if you are planning to meet someone there and ask to be
directed to the loos. If staff look at you suspiciously you can whip out
your phone and act as if an appointment has been cancelled. They are
always top class. My current favourite is the London Marriott Park Lane
which is where I often get off the bus from Oxford. The Savoy is also
very good, with luxury hand cream.
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Apart from the disgusting conference food I experienced last week, the
last really bad meal I had was at the Savoy on my birthday last year. My
menu choice was described as a very fancy sort of fish omelette.
and ask to be
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The Savoy is also
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very good, with luxury hand cream.
I can't help but wonder whether the luxury hand cream might have
actually been the dressing for the ghastly omelette that had somehow
gone astray.

Nick
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Apart from the disgusting conference food I experienced last week, the
last really bad meal I had was at the Savoy on my birthday last year. My
menu choice was described as a very fancy sort of fish omelette.
 and ask to be
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The Savoy is also
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very good, with luxury hand cream.
I can't help but wonder whether the luxury hand cream might have
actually been the dressing for the ghastly omelette that had somehow
gone astray.
<giggle>
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I needed a loo. I knew there
were places before the M1 and thought the place was a pub, but it was
a restaurant. They refused to met me so I went a bit further, over the
road, to the pizza/Italian I've been to a few times with #1 daughter
and kids, and there was no problem. And they were humming, Saturday
evening. The Carob was empty. So NER! 50 people might not go there
now.
Forgot to comment on this bit earlier.
The empty place probably refused because they were empty. I've been
grumbled at in pubs for using the loo and not buying anything but now use a
Wetherspoons if I can find one. They tend to have rather nice loos
(although often upstairs), often accessible without entering the bar at
all. But if you do need to go through the bar to get there they are usually
so busy they don't notice.
The Folkestone one is a former church, and they have the old boards that
used to show the hymns outside the loos. One says HYMNS ...
















... and the other says HYRS.
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Just seen a Dyslexic Yorkshireman wearing a cat flap!
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but now use a
Wetherspoons if I can find one.
Judging by a recent review in the Sunday Times this sounds like the best
use for such an establishment.
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but now use a
Wetherspoons if I can find one.
Judging by a recent review in the Sunday Times this sounds like the
best use for such an establishment.
Sounds a bit sweeping; there are lots of Wetherspoons, and they vary.
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Wetherspoons if I can find one.
Judging by a recent review in the Sunday Times this sounds like the
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Sounds a bit sweeping; there are lots of Wetherspoons, and they vary.
Equally ghastly. As is their parents’ coffee.
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but now use a
Wetherspoons if I can find one.
Judging by a recent review in the Sunday Times this sounds like the
best use for such an establishment.
Sounds a bit sweeping; there are lots of Wetherspoons, and they vary.
Equally ghastly. As is their parents’ coffee.
OK, our experience just differs then. I've generally found them
reasonable; I've had quibbles, but on the whole been satisfied.

(I'm a bit puzzled about the parents' coffee reference: are they an
offshoot of one of the coffee chains?)
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(I'm a bit puzzled about the parents' coffee reference: are they an
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So am I.
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(I'm a bit puzzled about the parents' coffee reference: are they an
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So am I.
Whitbread.
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(I'm a bit puzzled about the parents' coffee reference: are they an
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So am I.
Whitbread.
They do not own Wetherspoons. They have no pubs in the portfolio.
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(I'm a bit puzzled about the parents' coffee reference: are they an
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So am I.
Whitbread.
They do not own Wetherspoons. They have no pubs in the portfolio.
Praps they used to?
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(I'm a bit puzzled about the parents' coffee reference: are they an
offshoot of one of the coffee chains?)
So am I.
Whitbread.
They do not own Wetherspoons. They have no pubs in the portfolio.
Praps they used to?
Nope, nobody else has ever owned J D Wetherspoon (who is not a person) plc.

Meanwhile, the Shrewsbury establishment has been getting some adverse
publicity for kicking a disabled girl out because they thought she was
drunk :(
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-43794564
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(I'm a bit puzzled about the parents' coffee reference: are they an
offshoot of one of the coffee chains?)
So am I.
Whitbread.
They do not own Wetherspoons. They have no pubs in the portfolio.
Praps they used to?
Nope, nobody else has ever owned J D Wetherspoon (who is not a person) plc.
Meanwhile, the Shrewsbury establishment has been getting some adverse
publicity for kicking a disabled girl out because they thought she was
drunk :(
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-43794564
The fact they both begin with W was probably sufficient for my creative
imagination. So are Whitbread right out of the brewing trade now? They
were farsighted in switching to coffee. So, who owns cafe uno/nero? That
is a migraine in a cup for me.
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but now use a
Wetherspoons if I can find one.
Judging by a recent review in the Sunday Times this sounds like the
best use for such an establishment.
Sounds a bit sweeping; there are lots of Wetherspoons, and they vary.
Equally ghastly. As is their parents’ coffee.
OK, our experience just differs then. I've generally found them
reasonable; I've had quibbles, but on the whole been satisfied.
(I'm a bit puzzled about the parents' coffee reference: are they an
offshoot of one of the coffee chains?)
Owned by Whitbread, who have swept the market with nausea* provoking
coffee.

*only my experience of course.
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but now use a
Wetherspoons if I can find one.
Judging by a recent review in the Sunday Times this sounds like the
best use for such an establishment.
Sounds a bit sweeping; there are lots of Wetherspoons, and they vary.
Equally ghastly. As is their parents’ coffee.
OK, our experience just differs then. I've generally found them
reasonable; I've had quibbles, but on the whole been satisfied.
(I'm a bit puzzled about the parents' coffee reference: are they an
offshoot of one of the coffee chains?)
Owned by Whitbread, who have swept the market with nausea* provoking
coffee.
*only my experience of course.
Our Petherswoons have stopped using a barista’s system and only offer the
empty cup for you to place under the Lavazza (sp?) multibutton screen
driven device where no drink seems to even reach 75 degrees in the cup.
:-(((
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but now use a
Wetherspoons if I can find one.
Judging by a recent review in the Sunday Times this sounds like the
best use for such an establishment.
Sounds a bit sweeping; there are lots of Wetherspoons, and they vary.
Equally ghastly. As is their parents’ coffee.
OK, our experience just differs then. I've generally found them
reasonable; I've had quibbles, but on the whole been satisfied.
(I'm a bit puzzled about the parents' coffee reference: are they an
offshoot of one of the coffee chains?)
Owned by Whitbread, who have swept the market with nausea* provoking
coffee.
*only my experience of course.
Our Petherswoons have stopped using a barista’s system and only offer the
empty cup for you to place under the Lavazza (sp?) multibutton screen
driven device where no drink seems to even reach 75 degrees in the cup.
:-(((
Its disgusting, frankly. Not worth the cardboard cup being incapable of
being more than lukewarm.

Sincerely Chris
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Costa Coffee, yes, but I think not Wetherspoons.
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OK, our experience just differs then. I've generally found them
reasonable; I've had quibbles, but on the whole been satisfied.
+1 When I make my annual visit to UK my former assistant, now UK
sales agent, have an extended lunch to review things, always at
Wetherspoons, Twickenham. Never been disappointed with the food,
value is brilliant and they don't mind us sitting around for half
the afternoon.
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+1 When I make my annual visit to UK my former assistant, now UK
sales agent, have an extended lunch to review things, always at
Wetherspoons, Twickenham. Never been disappointed with the food,
value is brilliant and they don't mind us sitting around for half
the afternoon.
I had always regarded them from afar with a certain level of
disdain. (1) However, when it was recently logistically
convenient to pop into one for a quick lunch, we had a tasty and
good value meal efficiently delivered.

(1) Somewhat along the lines of the old advert "I've never
tasted Guinness because I don't like it."

Chris
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I had always regarded them from afar with a certain level of
disdain.
You are not alone, Wetherspoons has an almost entirely unearned reputation.

However, when it was recently logistically
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convenient to pop into one for a quick lunch, we had a tasty and
good value meal efficiently delivered.
On a recent long week-end we stayed in a Wetherspoons hotel (yes, I was surprised too) in Kings Lynn and it was very clean, good sized rooms, bath and shower. Oh, and cheap, too.
We often take grandchildren for a W'poon meal and have never been disappointed. And I may be an indiscriminate drinker but their lunch-time bottomless coffee is very drinkable and a boon to the designated driver - think even Jack Reacher wouldn't turn his nose up at it.

Good beer at good prices and a dependable menu; what more do you want from a chain pub???

Fred
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You are not alone, Wetherspoons has an almost entirely unearned reputation.
However, when it was recently logistically
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convenient to pop into one for a quick lunch, we had a tasty and
good value meal efficiently delivered.
On a recent long week-end we stayed in a Wetherspoons hotel (yes, I was
surprised too) in Kings Lynn and it was very clean, good sized rooms,
bath and shower. Oh, and cheap, too.
We often take grandchildren for a W'poon meal and have never been
disappointed. And I may be an indiscriminate drinker but their lunch-time
bottomless coffee is very drinkable and a boon to the designated driver -
think even Jack Reacher wouldn't turn his nose up at it.
Good beer at good prices and a dependable menu; what more do you want from a chain pub???
Fred
Come down here, Fred, and two umrats will show you. A lot of it is poor
staff training, plus the move to diy coffee - which I seem to remember
finding in a wetherspoons in Coventry ages ago.

Sincerely Chris
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Come down here, Fred, and two umrats will show you. A lot of it is poor
staff training, plus the move to diy coffee - which I seem to remember
finding in a wetherspoons in Coventry ages ago.
MMVC. I like Wetherspoons. Good food, reasonable prices. Never had
a problem with staff being badly trained.
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Come down here, Fred, and two umrats will show you. A lot of it is poor
staff training, plus the move to diy coffee - which I seem to remember
finding in a wetherspoons in Coventry ages ago.
MMVC. I like Wetherspoons. Good food, reasonable prices. Never had
a problem with staff being badly trained.
We have lots of international students here, Europeans would be able to
work with little problem, this particular Wetherspoons is within sight of
one campus and and a lot of accommodation, plus a few minutes walk to town.
If you can’t understand the clear spoken McT, there must be something
wrong shurely.

Sincerely Chris
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+1 When I make my annual visit to UK my former assistant, now UK
sales agent, have an extended lunch to review things, always at
Wetherspoons, Twickenham. Never been disappointed with the food,
value is brilliant and they don't mind us sitting around for half
the afternoon.
I had always regarded them from afar with a certain level of
disdain. (1) However, when it was recently logistically
convenient to pop into one for a quick lunch, we had a tasty and
good value meal efficiently delivered.
(1) Somewhat along the lines of the old advert "I've never
tasted Guinness because I don't like it."
Chris
My grandmother used to say "Wass der Bauer kennt nicht frisst er
nicht." Or we said to the kids Green eggs and ham.

I can only recall eating in Wetherspoons once, with a group of
friends who met online. It was a convenient place. I had some sort of
lamb burger that had mint in it and was horrible :). This was many
years ago though, so maybe they've improved since.
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+1 When I make my annual visit to UK my former assistant, now UK
sales agent, have an extended lunch to review things, always at
Wetherspoons, Twickenham. Never been disappointed with the food,
value is brilliant and they don't mind us sitting around for half
the afternoon.
I had always regarded them from afar with a certain level of
disdain. (1) However, when it was recently logistically
convenient to pop into one for a quick lunch, we had a tasty and
good value meal efficiently delivered.
(1) Somewhat along the lines of the old advert "I've never
tasted Guinness because I don't like it."
Generally speaking I like them. Particularly good for large gatherings who
need to be fed and watered (or whatever) at reasonable cost. Sadly, I don't
really like our local one which used to be a reasonable pub with various
rooms - including a 'Dinning Room' which always amused Ray Glendinning -
and a popular carvery plus a pleasant beer garden. It is now all open plan
with, to my mind, too many tables making it difficult to get around. It's
tolerable on a slow day but very noisy when busy. Not somewhere you could
comfortably linger for a chat (but handy for the loo if you can manage
stairs). But that's ok, other bars are available along the street and
prices in this area are pretty good anyway.

The only other one I've been to which jarred was a newly acquired premises
in Sheffield which had music playing. Our large gathering queried this as
company policy is against it and we were directed to another Wetherspoon
around the corner which suited our purpose better.
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+1 When I make my annual visit to UK my former assistant, now UK
sales agent, have an extended lunch to review things, always at
Wetherspoons, Twickenham. Never been disappointed with the food,
value is brilliant and they don't mind us sitting around for half
the afternoon.
I had always regarded them from afar with a certain level of
disdain. (1) However, when it was recently logistically
convenient to pop into one for a quick lunch, we had a tasty and
good value meal efficiently delivered.
(1) Somewhat along the lines of the old advert "I've never
tasted Guinness because I don't like it."
Generally speaking I like them. Particularly good for large gatherings who
need to be fed and watered (or whatever) at reasonable cost. Sadly, I don't
really like our local one which used to be a reasonable pub with various
rooms - including a 'Dinning Room' which always amused Ray Glendinning -
and a popular carvery plus a pleasant beer garden. It is now all open plan
with, to my mind, too many tables making it difficult to get around. It's
tolerable on a slow day but very noisy when busy. Not somewhere you could
comfortably linger for a chat (but handy for the loo if you can manage
stairs). But that's ok, other bars are available along the street and
prices in this area are pretty good anyway.
The only other one I've been to which jarred was a newly acquired premises
in Sheffield which had music playing. Our large gathering queried this as
company policy is against it and we were directed to another Wetherspoon
around the corner which suited our purpose better.
Our Spanish language class in Hudderfield sometimes met informally in
the local Wetherspoons, pulled a couple of tables together, bought a few
drinks and coffees and nobody minded as we practiced our exam revision.

I was reminded of this on Monday when we were in a cafe/bar in Buenos
Aires and a bunch of people came in, pulled some tables together, pulled
some exercise books out and started practicing Italian.

Nick
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The only other one I've been to which jarred was a newly acquired premises
in Sheffield which had music playing. Our large gathering queried this as
company policy is against it and we were directed to another Wetherspoon
around the corner which suited our purpose better.
Our Spanish language class in Hudderfield sometimes met informally in
the local Wetherspoons, pulled a couple of tables together, bought a few
drinks and coffees and nobody minded as we practiced our exam revision.
I was reminded of this on Monday when we were in a cafe/bar in Buenos
Aires and a bunch of people came in, pulled some tables together, pulled
some exercise books out and started practicing Italian.
Our Sheffield one was a post-conference gathering of people who mostly know
each other from online encounters. We did the same in Aberystwyth (where
the acoustics on the old station platform were not so good but we had
plenty of room). Some conference goers seem to hold the same disdain for
Wetherspoons as others here have mentioned.

When I was part of a singles email group we sometimes met at the one in
Sittingbourne on cheap curry nights. I was fascinated by the other diners.
Early in the evening they were generally pensioners but as time ticked on
the average age of customers reduced (there was a nightclub above but not
part of the pub). When we were surrounded by school children we generally
called it a night and left.
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The only other one I've been to which jarred was a newly acquired premises
in Sheffield which had music playing. Our large gathering queried this as
company policy is against it and we were directed to another Wetherspoon
around the corner which suited our purpose better.
Our Sheffield one was a post-conference gathering of people who mostly know
each other from online encounters. We did the same in Aberystwyth (where
the acoustics on the old station platform were not so good but we had
plenty of room). Some conference goers seem to hold the same disdain for
Wetherspoons as others here have mentioned.
I woz there, both times. Also in related gatherings of people in one of
JDW's Edinburgh establishments, and in one in a village somewhere near
Peterborough, the name of which escapes me.

No muzak and no dogs (other than guide dogs) are both bonus points for
me. (Dogs are fine as long as I perceive them only with my eyes, not
with my ears or nose, and they have all available paws in contact with
the ground, not planted half-way up me. Sadly, many dogs do not fit any
of these categories. Yes, I know it's the owners' fault, not the dog's,
but when I've just been flattened on a beach, that doesn't really
compensate, and the owner coming up and telling me the dog is just being
friendly does nothing to reduce the shock and distress of being knocked
off my feet, and in fact just adds insult to injury.)

Anne B
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+1 When I make my annual visit to UK my former assistant, now UK
sales agent, have an extended lunch to review things, always at
Wetherspoons, Twickenham. Never been disappointed with the food,
value is brilliant and they don't mind us sitting around for half
the afternoon.
I had always regarded them from afar with a certain level of
disdain. (1) However, when it was recently logistically
convenient to pop into one for a quick lunch, we had a tasty and
good value meal efficiently delivered.
(1) Somewhat along the lines of the old advert "I've never
tasted Guinness because I don't like it."
Generally speaking I like them. Particularly good for large gatherings who
need to be fed and watered (or whatever) at reasonable cost. Sadly, I don't
really like our local one which used to be a reasonable pub with various
rooms - including a 'Dinning Room' which always amused Ray Glendinning -
and a popular carvery plus a pleasant beer garden. It is now all open plan
with, to my mind, too many tables making it difficult to get around. It's
tolerable on a slow day but very noisy when busy. Not somewhere you could
comfortably linger for a chat (but handy for the loo if you can manage
stairs). But that's ok, other bars are available along the street and
prices in this area are pretty good anyway.
The only other one I've been to which jarred was a newly acquired premises
in Sheffield which had music playing. Our large gathering queried this as
company policy is against it and we were directed to another Wetherspoon
around the corner which suited our purpose better.
If a Wetherspoons is considered a Lloyds Bar its music and noisy (or the
ones I’ve been to are).

My next new one will be somewhere in Brum city centre but the chap
organising it has taken it on himself to do it all and not asked us where
we would use as a gathering point outside the hotel itself yet, There are,
among our school reunion group, diehard Wetherspoons users. Too be fair,
we need quiet-ish or we can’t hear each other. I actively hate pub noise
anyway.

Sincerely Chris


Sincerely Chris
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If a Wetherspoons is considered a Lloyds Bar its music and noisy (or the
ones I’ve been to are).
Lloyds No 1 Bars belong to J D Wetherspoon and do indeed have music but
they are not the same animal as a normal 'Spoons.
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Sam Plusnet
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but now use a
Wetherspoons if I can find one.
Judging by a recent review in the Sunday Times this sounds like the
best use for such an establishment.
Sounds a bit sweeping; there are lots of Wetherspoons, and they vary.
Equally ghastly. As is their parents’ coffee.
We ate in one, once.
I found it... not actually terrible - whilst Wofe threatened me with
violence if we ever went near such a place again.
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2018-04-20 21:42:00 UTC
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but now use a
Wetherspoons if I can find one.
Judging by a recent review in the Sunday Times this sounds like the
best use for such an establishment.
Sounds a bit sweeping; there are lots of Wetherspoons, and they vary.
Equally ghastly. As is their parents’ coffee.
We ate in one, once.
I found it... not actually terrible - whilst Wofe threatened me with
violence if we ever went near such a place again.
That's what puzzles me: the hatred they seem to generate. As I've said,
I like them on the whole, but I don't think a bad experience would lead
me to such a view!
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but now use a
Wetherspoons if I can find one.
Judging by a recent review in the Sunday Times this sounds like the
best use for such an establishment.
Sounds a bit sweeping; there are lots of Wetherspoons, and they vary.
 Equally ghastly.  As is their parents’ coffee.
We ate in one, once.
I found it... not actually terrible - whilst Wofe threatened me with
violence if we ever went near such a place again.
That's what puzzles me: the hatred they seem to generate. As I've said,
I like them on the whole, but I don't think a bad experience would lead
me to such a view!
Wofe had no predisposition towards WS, there was just something about
the whole 'experience' that she found particularly distasteful.
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Jenny M Benson
2018-04-19 09:09:05 UTC
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but now use a
Wetherspoons if I can find one.
Judging by a recent review in the Sunday Times this sounds like the
best use for such an establishment.
Sounds a bit sweeping; there are lots of Wetherspoons, and they vary.
Except that apparently they do not allow dogs, even in their outside
areas - a universal ruling - so they do not meet with my approval.
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J. P. Gilliver (John)
2018-04-19 09:35:18 UTC
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but now use a
Wetherspoons if I can find one.
Judging by a recent review in the Sunday Times this sounds like the
best use for such an establishment.
Sounds a bit sweeping; there are lots of Wetherspoons, and they vary.
Except that apparently they do not allow dogs, even in their outside
areas - a universal ruling - so they do not meet with my approval.
Ah yes, I can see that that's a problem. On the other hand, they have a
Braille menu available; apart from Morrisons café, I've not come across
_any_ other chain that does. (McDonalds claim to, but have never been
able to find it when I ask.)
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Chris McMillan
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but now use a
Wetherspoons if I can find one.
Judging by a recent review in the Sunday Times this sounds like the
best use for such an establishment.
Sounds a bit sweeping; there are lots of Wetherspoons, and they vary.
Except that apparently they do not allow dogs, even in their outside
areas - a universal ruling - so they do not meet with my approval.
Ah yes, I can see that that's a problem. On the other hand, they have a
Braille menu available; apart from Morrisons café, I've not come across
_any_ other chain that does. (McDonalds claim to, but have never been
able to find it when I ask.)
Oh yes, hilarious evening in a Wetherspoons at a school reunion. That year
only one person needed a braille menu so we went to town and got it just
for her and the rest of us who can read normal print read to everyone else
as usual. Even a fast braillist doesn’t read as fast with fingers as by
eye. (And the braillist is a Wetherspooner!). I even had time for a photo.
It just has to be done! This was just before the era of social media:
unless to make a point I don’t think we’d bother as that friend is a whizz
on a smart phone, as are most of my friends. I’m the numpty.

Sincerely Chris
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but now use a
Wetherspoons if I can find one.
Judging by a recent review in the Sunday Times this sounds like the
best use for such an establishment.
Sounds a bit sweeping; there are lots of Wetherspoons, and they vary.
Except that apparently they do not allow dogs, even in their outside
areas - a universal ruling - so they do not meet with my approval.
Ah yes, I can see that that's a problem. On the other hand, they have a
Braille menu available; apart from Morrisons café, I've not come across
_any_ other chain that does. (McDonalds claim to, but have never been
able to find it when I ask.)
Clearly you haven’t looked properly.
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but now use a
Wetherspoons if I can find one.
Judging by a recent review in the Sunday Times this sounds like the
best use for such an establishment.
Sounds a bit sweeping; there are lots of Wetherspoons, and they vary.
Except that apparently they do not allow dogs, even in their outside
areas - a universal ruling - so they do not meet with my approval.
Ah yes, I can see that that's a problem. On the other hand, they have a
Braille menu available; apart from Morrisons café, I've not come across
_any_ other chain that does. (McDonalds claim to, but have never been
able to find it when I ask.)
Clearly you haven’t looked properly.
Some time back, we requested a large print menue in Pizza Hut ... sorry
Sir, we can’t locate any at the moment....
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but now use a
Wetherspoons if I can find one.
Judging by a recent review in the Sunday Times this sounds like the
best use for such an establishment.
Sounds a bit sweeping; there are lots of Wetherspoons, and they vary.
Except that apparently they do not allow dogs, even in their outside
areas - a universal ruling - so they do not meet with my approval.
Ah yes, I can see that that's a problem. On the other hand, they have a
Braille menu available; apart from Morrisons café, I've not come across
_any_ other chain that does. (McDonalds claim to, but have never been
able to find it when I ask.)
Clearly you haven’t looked properly.
It's right there in front of you, are you blind, or something?

Nick
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Ah yes, I can see that that's a problem. On the other hand, they have a
Braille menu available; apart from Morrisons café, I've not come across
_any_ other chain that does. (McDonalds claim to, but have never been
able to find it when I ask.)
Clearly you haven’t looked properly.
It's right there in front of you, are you blind, or something?
Nick
LOL! Made me grin so much I'm not going to BTN. Oh, all right then.
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Jenny M Benson
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Ah yes, I can see that that's a problem. On the other hand, they have a
Braille menu available; apart from Morrisons café, I've not come across
_any_ other chain that does. (McDonalds claim to, but have never been
able to find it when I ask.)
 Clearly you haven’t looked properly.
It's right there in front of you, are you blind, or something?
Nick
LOL! Made me grin so much I'm not going to BTN. Oh, all right then.
Oh yes, I think so!
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but now use a
Wetherspoons if I can find one.
Judging by a recent review in the Sunday Times this sounds like the
best use for such an establishment.
Sounds a bit sweeping; there are lots of Wetherspoons, and they vary.
Except that apparently they do not allow dogs, even in their outside
areas - a universal ruling - so they do not meet with my approval.
Ah yes, I can see that that's a problem. On the other hand, they have a
Braille menu available; apart from Morrisons café, I've not come across
_any_ other chain that does. (McDonalds claim to, but have never been
able to find it when I ask.)
Clearly you haven’t looked properly.
Well of course he hasn't looked properly if he needs a braille menu ! ;)
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but now use a
Wetherspoons if I can find one.
Judging by a recent review in the Sunday Times this sounds like the
best use for such an establishment.
Sounds a bit sweeping; there are lots of Wetherspoons, and they vary.
Except that apparently they do not allow dogs, even in their outside
areas - a universal ruling - so they do not meet with my approval.
Ah yes, I can see that that's a problem. On the other hand, they have a
Braille menu available; apart from Morrisons café, I've not come across
_any_ other chain that does. (McDonalds claim to, but have never been
able to find it when I ask.)
Clearly you haven’t looked properly.
Well of course he hasn't looked properly if he needs a braille menu !
;)
Chuckle! No, _they_ - the staff - haven't been able to find it when I've
asked, on behalf of my blind friends, who like to go there.
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but now use a
Wetherspoons if I can find one.
Judging by a recent review in the Sunday Times this sounds like the
best use for such an establishment.
Sounds a bit sweeping; there are lots of Wetherspoons, and they vary.
Except that apparently they do not allow dogs, even in their outside
areas - a universal ruling - so they do not meet with my approval.
Ah yes, I can see that that's a problem. On the other hand, they have a
Braille menu available; apart from Morrisons café, I've not come across
_any_ other chain that does. (McDonalds claim to, but have never been
able to find it when I ask.)
Clearly you haven’t looked properly.
Well of course he hasn't looked properly if he needs a braille menu ! ;)
Oh dear, oh dear. One expects more from a seeker after bad taste. But
others got it 🙄
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but now use a
Wetherspoons if I can find one.
Judging by a recent review in the Sunday Times this sounds like the
best use for such an establishment.
Sounds a bit sweeping; there are lots of Wetherspoons, and they vary.
Except that apparently they do not allow dogs, even in their outside
areas - a universal ruling - so they do not meet with my approval.
Ah yes, I can see that that's a problem. On the other hand, they have a
Braille menu available; apart from Morrisons café, I've not come across
_any_ other chain that does. (McDonalds claim to, but have never been
able to find it when I ask.)
Clearly you haven’t looked properly.
Well of course he hasn't looked properly if he needs a braille menu ! ;)
Oh dear, oh dear. One expects more from a seeker after bad taste. But
others got it 🙄
I thought it was blindingly obvious m’self;-)
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but now use a
Wetherspoons if I can find one.
Judging by a recent review in the Sunday Times this sounds like the
best use for such an establishment.
Sounds a bit sweeping; there are lots of Wetherspoons, and they vary.
Except that apparently they do not allow dogs, even in their outside
areas - a universal ruling - so they do not meet with my approval.
I'd forgotten that - I reckon Yr Hen Orsaf in Aberystwyth wouldn't worry
about dogs, particularly at the pavement tables.
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