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Sally Thompson
2017-07-11 19:09:47 UTC
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With regard to the puppy, apart from the scandalous message being sent by
the scriptwriters that it's okay to dump an unsolicited puppy on someone's
doorstep, I thought at close of play yesterday that even if Lilian had
expressed the slightest interest in having a dog she wouldn't have anything
in the house to look after it - a bed, food etc.

My OP is that she will offer the puppy to Lynda who is used to dogs, misses
Scruff and probably has everything needed. It's also a nice peace offering
and solves the problem of what to tell Justin.
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Sally in Shropshire, UK
Serena Blanchflower
2017-07-11 19:55:33 UTC
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With regard to the puppy, apart from the scandalous message being sent by
the scriptwriters that it's okay to dump an unsolicited puppy on someone's
doorstep, I thought at close of play yesterday that even if Lilian had
expressed the slightest interest in having a dog she wouldn't have anything
in the house to look after it - a bed, food etc.
Yes, I thought that, as well.
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My OP is that she will offer the puppy to Lynda who is used to dogs, misses
Scruff and probably has everything needed. It's also a nice peace offering
and solves the problem of what to tell Justin.
That's an excellent plan.
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Best wishes, Serena
The way I see it, if you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the
rain (Dolly Parton)
Vicky
2017-07-11 21:09:54 UTC
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On 11 Jul 2017 19:09:47 GMT, Sally Thompson
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With regard to the puppy, apart from the scandalous message being sent by
the scriptwriters that it's okay to dump an unsolicited puppy on someone's
doorstep, I thought at close of play yesterday that even if Lilian had
expressed the slightest interest in having a dog she wouldn't have anything
in the house to look after it - a bed, food etc.
My OP is that she will offer the puppy to Lynda who is used to dogs, misses
Scruff and probably has everything needed. It's also a nice peace offering
and solves the problem of what to tell Justin.
Yes, I think you are right, both the bad message sent and the outcome.
But the main drama of the episode was very sad. They just had to kill
someone! Was she wanting to be written out?
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Vicky
Serena Blanchflower
2017-07-11 21:35:05 UTC
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On 11 Jul 2017 19:09:47 GMT, Sally Thompson
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With regard to the puppy, apart from the scandalous message being sent by
the scriptwriters that it's okay to dump an unsolicited puppy on someone's
doorstep, I thought at close of play yesterday that even if Lilian had
expressed the slightest interest in having a dog she wouldn't have anything
in the house to look after it - a bed, food etc.
My OP is that she will offer the puppy to Lynda who is used to dogs, misses
Scruff and probably has everything needed. It's also a nice peace offering
and solves the problem of what to tell Justin.
Yes, I think you are right, both the bad message sent and the outcome.
But the main drama of the episode was very sad. They just had to kill
someone! Was she wanting to be written out?
Did you know that Sara Coward died, a few months ago? She had hoped
Caroline would be allowed to live on and, perhaps, be recast. Apart
from the fact that Sara had hoped for a different outcome, I think it
was a good choice, as it gave Ambridge a chance to remember Caroline and
give her an appropriate send-off.
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Best wishes, Serena
There is nothing new under the sun but there are lots of old things we
don't know. (Ambrose Bierce)
Vicky
2017-07-11 21:43:03 UTC
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With regard to the puppy, apart from the scandalous message being sent by
the scriptwriters that it's okay to dump an unsolicited puppy on someone's
doorstep, I thought at close of play yesterday that even if Lilian had
expressed the slightest interest in having a dog she wouldn't have anything
in the house to look after it - a bed, food etc.
My OP is that she will offer the puppy to Lynda who is used to dogs, misses
Scruff and probably has everything needed. It's also a nice peace offering
and solves the problem of what to tell Justin.
Yes, I think you are right, both the bad message sent and the outcome.
But the main drama of the episode was very sad. They just had to kill
someone! Was she wanting to be written out?
Did you know that Sara Coward died, a few months ago? She had hoped
Caroline would be allowed to live on and, perhaps, be recast. Apart
from the fact that Sara had hoped for a different outcome, I think it
was a good choice, as it gave Ambridge a chance to remember Caroline and
give her an appropriate send-off.
OAP memory failure. Now I remember. Yes it was sad, this is sad too,
like losing her twice. And Will is obnoxious, even in this situation.
I was worrying about the Grundies losing their home too. It is ok for
Will, he has a place to live, a spare place and money.
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Vicky
carolet
2017-07-11 21:54:30 UTC
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On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 22:35:05 +0100, Serena Blanchflower
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On 11 Jul 2017 19:09:47 GMT, Sally Thompson
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With regard to the puppy, apart from the scandalous message being sent by
the scriptwriters that it's okay to dump an unsolicited puppy on someone's
doorstep, I thought at close of play yesterday that even if Lilian had
expressed the slightest interest in having a dog she wouldn't have anything
in the house to look after it - a bed, food etc.
My OP is that she will offer the puppy to Lynda who is used to dogs, misses
Scruff and probably has everything needed. It's also a nice peace offering
and solves the problem of what to tell Justin.
Yes, I think you are right, both the bad message sent and the outcome.
But the main drama of the episode was very sad. They just had to kill
someone! Was she wanting to be written out?
Did you know that Sara Coward died, a few months ago? She had hoped
Caroline would be allowed to live on and, perhaps, be recast. Apart
from the fact that Sara had hoped for a different outcome, I think it
was a good choice, as it gave Ambridge a chance to remember Caroline and
give her an appropriate send-off.
OAP memory failure. Now I remember. Yes it was sad, this is sad too,
like losing her twice. And Will is obnoxious, even in this situation.
I was worrying about the Grundies losing their home too. It is ok for
Will, he has a place to live, a spare place and money.
And, he will probably inherit a bit more now.
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CaroleT
Sally Thompson
2017-07-12 06:38:17 UTC
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With regard to the puppy, apart from the scandalous message being sent by
the scriptwriters that it's okay to dump an unsolicited puppy on someone's
doorstep, I thought at close of play yesterday that even if Lilian had
expressed the slightest interest in having a dog she wouldn't have anything
in the house to look after it - a bed, food etc.
My OP is that she will offer the puppy to Lynda who is used to dogs, misses
Scruff and probably has everything needed. It's also a nice peace offering
and solves the problem of what to tell Justin.
Yes, I think you are right, both the bad message sent and the outcome.
But the main drama of the episode was very sad. They just had to kill
someone! Was she wanting to be written out?
Did you know that Sara Coward died, a few months ago? She had hoped
Caroline would be allowed to live on and, perhaps, be recast. Apart
from the fact that Sara had hoped for a different outcome, I think it
was a good choice, as it gave Ambridge a chance to remember Caroline and
give her an appropriate send-off.
OAP memory failure. Now I remember. Yes it was sad, this is sad too,
like losing her twice. And Will is obnoxious, even in this situation.
I was worrying about the Grundies losing their home too. It is ok for
Will, he has a place to live, a spare place and money.
And, he will probably inherit a bit more now.
I wondered if Caroline would leave something to both Will and Ed, because
although she was not Ed's godmother, she must have been aware that they had
been treated unequally in the past.
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Sally in Shropshire, UK
Mike
2017-07-12 07:58:49 UTC
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With regard to the puppy, apart from the scandalous message being sent by
the scriptwriters that it's okay to dump an unsolicited puppy on someone's
doorstep, I thought at close of play yesterday that even if Lilian had
expressed the slightest interest in having a dog she wouldn't have anything
in the house to look after it - a bed, food etc.
My OP is that she will offer the puppy to Lynda who is used to dogs, misses
Scruff and probably has everything needed. It's also a nice peace offering
and solves the problem of what to tell Justin.
Yes, I think you are right, both the bad message sent and the outcome.
But the main drama of the episode was very sad. They just had to kill
someone! Was she wanting to be written out?
Did you know that Sara Coward died, a few months ago? She had hoped
Caroline would be allowed to live on and, perhaps, be recast. Apart
from the fact that Sara had hoped for a different outcome, I think it
was a good choice, as it gave Ambridge a chance to remember Caroline and
give her an appropriate send-off.
OAP memory failure. Now I remember. Yes it was sad, this is sad too,
like losing her twice. And Will is obnoxious, even in this situation.
I was worrying about the Grundies losing their home too. It is ok for
Will, he has a place to live, a spare place and money.
And, he will probably inherit a bit more now.
I wondered if Caroline would leave something to both Will and Ed, because
although she was not Ed's godmother, she must have been aware that they had
been treated unequally in the past.
Better still, just to Ed., anything to annoy and upset the happiest man in
town. Has Will access to Gregg's 12 bore by any chance, it is time for
another suicide.?
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Vicky
2017-07-12 08:40:32 UTC
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With regard to the puppy, apart from the scandalous message being sent by
the scriptwriters that it's okay to dump an unsolicited puppy on someone's
doorstep, I thought at close of play yesterday that even if Lilian had
expressed the slightest interest in having a dog she wouldn't have anything
in the house to look after it - a bed, food etc.
My OP is that she will offer the puppy to Lynda who is used to dogs, misses
Scruff and probably has everything needed. It's also a nice peace offering
and solves the problem of what to tell Justin.
Yes, I think you are right, both the bad message sent and the outcome.
But the main drama of the episode was very sad. They just had to kill
someone! Was she wanting to be written out?
Did you know that Sara Coward died, a few months ago? She had hoped
Caroline would be allowed to live on and, perhaps, be recast. Apart
from the fact that Sara had hoped for a different outcome, I think it
was a good choice, as it gave Ambridge a chance to remember Caroline and
give her an appropriate send-off.
OAP memory failure. Now I remember. Yes it was sad, this is sad too,
like losing her twice. And Will is obnoxious, even in this situation.
I was worrying about the Grundies losing their home too. It is ok for
Will, he has a place to live, a spare place and money.
And, he will probably inherit a bit more now.
I wondered if Caroline would leave something to both Will and Ed, because
although she was not Ed's godmother, she must have been aware that they had
been treated unequally in the past.
Better still, just to Ed., anything to annoy and upset the happiest man in
town. Has Will access to Gregg's 12 bore by any chance, it is time for
another suicide.?
I hoped for just to Ed or perhaps more to Ed to redress the balance.
Did Ed get money from her and another source too? Or the money didn't
from from her, just the car and use of the Dower House OAIAM. Did the
money come from some relative who made a will when Clarrie had just
had Will and didn't alter it before they died?
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Vicky
Vicky
2017-07-12 08:41:40 UTC
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With regard to the puppy, apart from the scandalous message being sent by
the scriptwriters that it's okay to dump an unsolicited puppy on someone's
doorstep, I thought at close of play yesterday that even if Lilian had
expressed the slightest interest in having a dog she wouldn't have anything
in the house to look after it - a bed, food etc.
My OP is that she will offer the puppy to Lynda who is used to dogs, misses
Scruff and probably has everything needed. It's also a nice peace offering
and solves the problem of what to tell Justin.
Yes, I think you are right, both the bad message sent and the outcome.
But the main drama of the episode was very sad. They just had to kill
someone! Was she wanting to be written out?
Did you know that Sara Coward died, a few months ago? She had hoped
Caroline would be allowed to live on and, perhaps, be recast. Apart
from the fact that Sara had hoped for a different outcome, I think it
was a good choice, as it gave Ambridge a chance to remember Caroline and
give her an appropriate send-off.
OAP memory failure. Now I remember. Yes it was sad, this is sad too,
like losing her twice. And Will is obnoxious, even in this situation.
I was worrying about the Grundies losing their home too. It is ok for
Will, he has a place to live, a spare place and money.
And, he will probably inherit a bit more now.
I wondered if Caroline would leave something to both Will and Ed, because
although she was not Ed's godmother, she must have been aware that they had
been treated unequally in the past.
Better still, just to Ed., anything to annoy and upset the happiest man in
town. Has Will access to Gregg's 12 bore by any chance, it is time for
another suicide.?
I hoped for just to Ed or perhaps more to Ed to redress the balance.
Did Ed get money from her and another source too? Or the money didn't
oops that should read did Will get money from her or just the car and
use of Dower House
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from from her, just the car and use of the Dower House OAIAM. Did the
money come from some relative who made a will when Clarrie had just
had Will and didn't alter it before they died?
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Vicky
Serena Blanchflower
2017-07-12 10:44:18 UTC
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With regard to the puppy, apart from the scandalous message being sent by
the scriptwriters that it's okay to dump an unsolicited puppy on someone's
doorstep, I thought at close of play yesterday that even if Lilian had
expressed the slightest interest in having a dog she wouldn't have anything
in the house to look after it - a bed, food etc.
My OP is that she will offer the puppy to Lynda who is used to dogs, misses
Scruff and probably has everything needed. It's also a nice peace offering
and solves the problem of what to tell Justin.
Yes, I think you are right, both the bad message sent and the outcome.
But the main drama of the episode was very sad. They just had to kill
someone! Was she wanting to be written out?
Did you know that Sara Coward died, a few months ago? She had hoped
Caroline would be allowed to live on and, perhaps, be recast. Apart
from the fact that Sara had hoped for a different outcome, I think it
was a good choice, as it gave Ambridge a chance to remember Caroline and
give her an appropriate send-off.
OAP memory failure. Now I remember. Yes it was sad, this is sad too,
like losing her twice. And Will is obnoxious, even in this situation.
I was worrying about the Grundies losing their home too. It is ok for
Will, he has a place to live, a spare place and money.
And, he will probably inherit a bit more now.
I wondered if Caroline would leave something to both Will and Ed, because
although she was not Ed's godmother, she must have been aware that they had
been treated unequally in the past.
Better still, just to Ed., anything to annoy and upset the happiest man in
town. Has Will access to Gregg's 12 bore by any chance, it is time for
another suicide.?
I hoped for just to Ed or perhaps more to Ed to redress the balance.
Did Ed get money from her and another source too? Or the money didn't
from from her, just the car and use of the Dower House OAIAM. Did the
money come from some relative who made a will when Clarrie had just
had Will and didn't alter it before they died?
Yup. The money for the house was from a previously unheard of elderly
relative.
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Best wishes, Serena
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When you recognise your shortcomings, do not let that discourage you.
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I was worrying about the Grundies losing their home too.
Don't worry. Oliver was always keener on housing the Grundies than
Caroline who does not (as far as I am aware) own any part of Grange
Farm. I cannot remember if Oliver also bought in Gay Grables or not.
He certainly helped run it for a while.

I can see him returning to the village to live - there are several
suitable places he might acquire.

However I do think that there will be change at Gay Grables - will
Caroline have left something to Will? Ian? Kathy? Roy? Shula? All
her money was tied up in GG so if there are gifts then Oliver may have
to sell to provide the gifts?

Changes are afoot.
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2017-07-12 07:54:25 UTC
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I was worrying about the Grundies losing their home too.
Don't worry. Oliver was always keener on housing the Grundies than
Caroline who does not (as far as I am aware) own any part of Grange
Farm. I cannot remember if Oliver also bought in Gay Grables or not. He
certainly helped run it for a while.
I can see him returning to the village to live - there are several
suitable places he might acquire.
However I do think that there will be change at Gay Grables - will
Caroline have left something to Will? Ian? Kathy? Roy? Shula? All
her money was tied up in GG so if there are gifts then Oliver may have
to sell to provide the gifts?
Changes are afoot.
Well, the Money Fairy enabled Caroline and Oliver to find enough change
down the back of the sofa to buy a place in Italy without selling GG, so
if Oliver sells this, he'll have cash to spare.
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Vicky
2017-07-12 08:33:32 UTC
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I was worrying about the Grundies losing their home too.
Don't worry. Oliver was always keener on housing the Grundies than
Caroline who does not (as far as I am aware) own any part of Grange
Farm. I cannot remember if Oliver also bought in Gay Grables or not. He
certainly helped run it for a while.
I can see him returning to the village to live - there are several
suitable places he might acquire.
However I do think that there will be change at Gay Grables - will
Caroline have left something to Will? Ian? Kathy? Roy? Shula? All
her money was tied up in GG so if there are gifts then Oliver may have
to sell to provide the gifts?
Changes are afoot.
Well, the Money Fairy enabled Caroline and Oliver to find enough change
down the back of the sofa to buy a place in Italy without selling GG, so
if Oliver sells this, he'll have cash to spare.
Perhaps he could get together in time with Christine or jill, who are
more his age. How sad. We probably expected him to die before
Caroline.
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Vicky
Marjorie
2017-07-12 18:58:33 UTC
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I was worrying about the Grundies losing their home too.
Don't worry. Oliver was always keener on housing the Grundies than
Caroline who does not (as far as I am aware) own any part of Grange
Farm. I cannot remember if Oliver also bought in Gay Grables or not. He
certainly helped run it for a while.
I can see him returning to the village to live - there are several
suitable places he might acquire.
However I do think that there will be change at Gay Grables - will
Caroline have left something to Will? Ian? Kathy? Roy? Shula? All
her money was tied up in GG so if there are gifts then Oliver may have
to sell to provide the gifts?
Changes are afoot.
Well, the Money Fairy enabled Caroline and Oliver to find enough change
down the back of the sofa to buy a place in Italy without selling GG, so
if Oliver sells this, he'll have cash to spare.
Perhaps he could get together in time with Christine or jill, who are
more his age. How sad. We probably expected him to die before
Caroline.
How old is he then? Caroline was only 62 - it is likely he'd now turn to
someone of 86 like Jill?
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krw
2017-07-12 22:08:24 UTC
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How old is he then? Caroline was only 62 - it is likely he'd now turn to
someone of 86 like Jill?
Oliver Sterling's age is not given. His best friend is 70.
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Btms
2017-07-13 06:44:34 UTC
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How old is he then? Caroline was only 62 - it is likely he'd now turn to
someone of 86 like Jill?
Oliver Sterling's age is not given. His best friend is 70.
BF looks older to me. Actor's ages are often a work of fiction.
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Serena Blanchflower
2017-07-13 07:35:29 UTC
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How old is he then? Caroline was only 62 - it is likely he'd now turn
to someone of 86 like Jill?
Oliver Sterling's age is not given. His best friend is 70.
I would have guessed Oliver to be about that. I always had the
impression that he was a few years older than Caroline, but not an
exceptional age gap.
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Marjorie
2017-07-14 08:58:27 UTC
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How old is he then? Caroline was only 62 - it is likely he'd now turn
to someone of 86 like Jill?
Oliver Sterling's age is not given. His best friend is 70.
I would have guessed Oliver to be about that. I always had the
impression that he was a few years older than Caroline, but not an
exceptional age gap.
He's still unlikely to turn to Jill, who is old enough to be Caroline's
mother.
Elizabeth, perhaps?
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How old is he then? Caroline was only 62 - it is likely he'd now
turn to someone of 86 like Jill?
Oliver Sterling's age is not given. His best friend is 70.
I would have guessed Oliver to be about that. I always had the
impression that he was a few years older than Caroline, but not an
exceptional age gap.
He's still unlikely to turn to Jill, who is old enough to be Caroline's
mother.
Elizabeth, perhaps?
My guess is Tracey :)
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2017-07-14 12:08:43 UTC
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How old is he then? Caroline was only 62 - it is likely he'd now
turn to someone of 86 like Jill?
Oliver Sterling's age is not given. His best friend is 70.
I would have guessed Oliver to be about that. I always had the
impression that he was a few years older than Caroline, but not an
exceptional age gap.
He's still unlikely to turn to Jill, who is old enough to be
Caroline's mother.
Elizabeth, perhaps?
My guess is Tracey :)
Great idea! and probably no more unlikely than Jazzer and JIm getting on
as housemates.
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How old is he then? Caroline was only 62 - it is likely he'd now
turn to someone of 86 like Jill?
Oliver Sterling's age is not given. His best friend is 70.
I would have guessed Oliver to be about that. I always had the
impression that he was a few years older than Caroline, but not an
exceptional age gap.
He's still unlikely to turn to Jill, who is old enough to be Caroline's
mother.
Elizabeth, perhaps?
My guess is Tracey :)
That would bring on a heart attack for Ollie!
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2017-07-14 12:21:11 UTC
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How old is he then? Caroline was only 62 - it is likely he'd now
turn to someone of 86 like Jill?
Oliver Sterling's age is not given. His best friend is 70.
I would have guessed Oliver to be about that. I always had the
impression that he was a few years older than Caroline, but not an
exceptional age gap.
He's still unlikely to turn to Jill, who is old enough to be Caroline's
mother.
I agree that he's unlikely to fall for Jill.
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Elizabeth, perhaps?
Hmm, if we assume Oliver's about 70, Elizabeth is 20 years his junior -
that's a larger age gap (although in the more conventional direction)
than the 16 years between him and Jill. I don't think Elizabeth has
ever shown any great interest in men significantly older than she is, so
that seems pretty unlikely to me.
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How old is he then? Caroline was only 62 - it is likely he'd now
turn to someone of 86 like Jill?
Oliver Sterling's age is not given. His best friend is 70.
I would have guessed Oliver to be about that. I always had the
impression that he was a few years older than Caroline, but not an
exceptional age gap.
He's still unlikely to turn to Jill, who is old enough to be
Caroline's mother.
I agree that he's unlikely to fall for Jill.
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Elizabeth, perhaps?
Hmm, if we assume Oliver's about 70, Elizabeth is 20 years his junior -
that's a larger age gap (although in the more conventional direction)
than the 16 years between him and Jill. I don't think Elizabeth has
ever shown any great interest in men significantly older than she is, so
that seems pretty unlikely to me.
If we need to find him a new partner, from amongst the people we know in
Ambridge, Kathy (at 65) would seem to be the obvious candidate, if an
unlikely one. This would be a good excuse to bring her back to the
cast, as well.
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2017-07-14 12:33:44 UTC
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How old is he then? Caroline was only 62 - it is likely he'd now
turn to someone of 86 like Jill?
Oliver Sterling's age is not given. His best friend is 70.
I would have guessed Oliver to be about that. I always had the
impression that he was a few years older than Caroline, but not an
exceptional age gap.
He's still unlikely to turn to Jill, who is old enough to be
Caroline's mother.
I agree that he's unlikely to fall for Jill.
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Elizabeth, perhaps?
Hmm, if we assume Oliver's about 70, Elizabeth is 20 years his junior
- that's a larger age gap (although in the more conventional
direction) than the 16 years between him and Jill. I don't think
Elizabeth has ever shown any great interest in men significantly older
than she is, so that seems pretty unlikely to me.
If we need to find him a new partner, from amongst the people we know in
Ambridge, Kathy (at 65) would seem to be the obvious candidate, if an
unlikely one. This would be a good excuse to bring her back to the
cast, as well.
Perfect! They could run GG together for a while, then sell it and
retire, and Kathy would have some security in her old age.
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2017-07-14 12:57:28 UTC
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How old is he then? Caroline was only 62 - it is likely he'd now
turn to someone of 86 like Jill?
Oliver Sterling's age is not given. His best friend is 70.
I would have guessed Oliver to be about that. I always had the
impression that he was a few years older than Caroline, but not an
exceptional age gap.
He's still unlikely to turn to Jill, who is old enough to be
Caroline's mother.
I agree that he's unlikely to fall for Jill.
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Elizabeth, perhaps?
Hmm, if we assume Oliver's about 70, Elizabeth is 20 years his junior -
that's a larger age gap (although in the more conventional direction)
than the 16 years between him and Jill. I don't think Elizabeth has
ever shown any great interest in men significantly older than she is, so
that seems pretty unlikely to me.
If we need to find him a new partner, from amongst the people we know in
Ambridge, Kathy (at 65) would seem to be the obvious candidate, if an
unlikely one. This would be a good excuse to bring her back to the
cast, as well.
She's too busy with the white elephant.
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2017-07-14 13:07:48 UTC
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How old is he then? Caroline was only 62 - it is likely he'd now
turn to someone of 86 like Jill?
Oliver Sterling's age is not given. His best friend is 70.
I would have guessed Oliver to be about that. I always had the
impression that he was a few years older than Caroline, but not an
exceptional age gap.
He's still unlikely to turn to Jill, who is old enough to be
Caroline's mother.
I agree that he's unlikely to fall for Jill.
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Elizabeth, perhaps?
Hmm, if we assume Oliver's about 70, Elizabeth is 20 years his junior -
that's a larger age gap (although in the more conventional direction)
than the 16 years between him and Jill. I don't think Elizabeth has
ever shown any great interest in men significantly older than she is, so
that seems pretty unlikely to me.
If we need to find him a new partner, from amongst the people we know in
Ambridge, Kathy (at 65) would seem to be the obvious candidate, if an
unlikely one. This would be a good excuse to bring her back to the
cast, as well.
She's too busy with the white elephant.
Well, what about the vet, Umbrella? She is much younger but they might
have to consult over the hounds. Is Oliver still involved with those?
Or Maybe Shula might move on, while comforting Oliver.
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Hmm, if we assume Oliver's about 70, Elizabeth is 20 years his
junior - that's a larger age gap (although in the more conventional
direction) than the 16 years between him and Jill. I don't think
Elizabeth has ever shown any great interest in men significantly
older than she is, so that seems pretty unlikely to me.
(I think it'd be a good match, though I'm not sure they even know each
other.)
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If we need to find him a new partner, from amongst the people we know
Which of course we don't. One can remain single. (Especially when
recently bereaved by his soul-mate.)
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in Ambridge, Kathy (at 65) would seem to be the obvious candidate, if
an unlikely one. This would be a good excuse to bring her back to the
cast, as well.
I _would_ like Kathy back, I agree.
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Hmm, if we assume Oliver's about 70, Elizabeth is 20 years his
junior - that's a larger age gap (although in the more conventional
direction) than the 16 years between him and Jill. I don't think
Elizabeth has ever shown any great interest in men significantly
older than she is, so that seems pretty unlikely to me.
(I think it'd be a good match, though I'm not sure they even know each
other.)
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If we need to find him a new partner, from amongst the people we know
Which of course we don't. One can remain single. (Especially when
recently bereaved by his soul-mate.)
Post by Serena Blanchflower
in Ambridge, Kathy (at 65) would seem to be the obvious candidate, if
an unlikely one. This would be a good excuse to bring her back to the
cast, as well.
I _would_ like Kathy back, I agree.
MTAAW
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Hmm, if we assume Oliver's about 70, Elizabeth is 20 years his
junior - that's a larger age gap (although in the more conventional
direction) than the 16 years between him and Jill. I don't think
Elizabeth has ever shown any great interest in men significantly
older than she is, so that seems pretty unlikely to me.
(I think it'd be a good match, though I'm not sure they even know each
other.)
Post by Serena Blanchflower
If we need to find him a new partner, from amongst the people we know
Which of course we don't. One can remain single. (Especially when
recently bereaved by his soul-mate.)
Post by Serena Blanchflower
in Ambridge, Kathy (at 65) would seem to be the obvious candidate, if
an unlikely one. This would be a good excuse to bring her back to the
cast, as well.
I _would_ like Kathy back, I agree.
MTAAW
I guess her friend upset someone with influence. She seems to have
something of the untouchable about
Her as she isn't even named now.

Idea; we could create mini stories for those we never hear about?
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Hmm, if we assume Oliver's about 70, Elizabeth is 20 years his
junior - that's a larger age gap (although in the more conventional
direction) than the 16 years between him and Jill. I don't think
Elizabeth has ever shown any great interest in men significantly
older than she is, so that seems pretty unlikely to me.
(I think it'd be a good match, though I'm not sure they even know each
other.)
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If we need to find him a new partner, from amongst the people we know
Which of course we don't. One can remain single. (Especially when
recently bereaved by his soul-mate.)
Post by Serena Blanchflower
in Ambridge, Kathy (at 65) would seem to be the obvious candidate, if
an unlikely one. This would be a good excuse to bring her back to the
cast, as well.
I _would_ like Kathy back, I agree.
MTAAW
I guess her friend upset someone with influence. She seems to have
something of the untouchable about
Her as she isn't even named now.
Idea; we could create mini stories for those we never hear about?
Absolutely unheard of! Good idea, the SW's aren't too good at it are they?
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Hmm, if we assume Oliver's about 70, Elizabeth is 20 years his
junior - that's a larger age gap (although in the more conventional
direction) than the 16 years between him and Jill. I don't think
Elizabeth has ever shown any great interest in men significantly
older than she is, so that seems pretty unlikely to me.
(I think it'd be a good match, though I'm not sure they even know each
other.)
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If we need to find him a new partner, from amongst the people we know
Which of course we don't. One can remain single. (Especially when
recently bereaved by his soul-mate.)
Post by Serena Blanchflower
in Ambridge, Kathy (at 65) would seem to be the obvious candidate, if
an unlikely one. This would be a good excuse to bring her back to the
cast, as well.
I _would_ like Kathy back, I agree.
MTAAW
I guess her friend upset someone with influence. She seems to have
something of the untouchable about
Her as she isn't even named now.
Idea; we could create mini stories for those we never hear about?
Absolutely unheard of! Good idea, the SW's aren't too good at it are they?
I was only saying to Nelson the other day as we sat with Mandy Beesborough
and Graham Rider that we haven't seen much of Darrel lately and in walked
Hazel Wooley with Niggles long lost bastard brother....
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Hmm, if we assume Oliver's about 70, Elizabeth is 20 years his
junior - that's a larger age gap (although in the more conventional
direction) than the 16 years between him and Jill. I don't think
Elizabeth has ever shown any great interest in men significantly
older than she is, so that seems pretty unlikely to me.
(I think it'd be a good match, though I'm not sure they even know each
other.)
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If we need to find him a new partner, from amongst the people we know
Which of course we don't. One can remain single. (Especially when
recently bereaved by his soul-mate.)
Post by Serena Blanchflower
in Ambridge, Kathy (at 65) would seem to be the obvious candidate, if
an unlikely one. This would be a good excuse to bring her back to the
cast, as well.
I _would_ like Kathy back, I agree.
MTAAW
I guess her friend upset someone with influence. She seems to have
something of the untouchable about
Her as she isn't even named now.
Idea; we could create mini stories for those we never hear about?
Absolutely unheard of! Good idea, the SW's aren't too good at it are they?
I was only saying to Nelson the other day as we sat with Mandy Beesborough
and Graham Rider that we haven't seen much of Darrel lately and in walked
Hazel Wooley with Niggles long lost bastard brother....
Nelson's carer seemed very attentive but did she manage to find him to
return him to the care home after the tea. That Hazel is awful. Did you
hear what she said about FAL? Bitch.
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Hmm, if we assume Oliver's about 70, Elizabeth is 20 years his
junior - that's a larger age gap (although in the more conventional
direction) than the 16 years between him and Jill. I don't think
Elizabeth has ever shown any great interest in men significantly
older than she is, so that seems pretty unlikely to me.
(I think it'd be a good match, though I'm not sure they even know each
other.)
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If we need to find him a new partner, from amongst the people we know
Which of course we don't. One can remain single. (Especially when
recently bereaved by his soul-mate.)
Post by Serena Blanchflower
in Ambridge, Kathy (at 65) would seem to be the obvious candidate, if
an unlikely one. This would be a good excuse to bring her back to the
cast, as well.
I _would_ like Kathy back, I agree.
MTAAW
I guess her friend upset someone with influence. She seems to have
something of the untouchable about
Her as she isn't even named now.
Idea; we could create mini stories for those we never hear about?
Absolutely unheard of! Good idea, the SW's aren't too good at it are they?
I was only saying to Nelson the other day as we sat with Mandy Beesborough
and Graham Rider that we haven't seen much of Darrel lately and in walked
Hazel Wooley with Niggles long lost bastard brother....
Nelson's carer seemed very attentive but did she manage to find him to
return him to the care home after the tea. That Hazel is awful. Did you
hear what she said about FAL? Bitch.
Was that before Nelson did a cartwheel into Martin Gibson, or, was it after
he punched that Cad Owen in the face? Mind you, I think that Gibson saying
Hazel was scum was the pot calling the kettle black, I said as much to Jude
and Ifty....
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Idea; we could create mini stories for those we never hear about?
Absolutely unheard of! Good idea, the SW's aren't too good at it are they?
I was only saying to Nelson the other day as we sat with Mandy Beesborough
and Graham Rider that we haven't seen much of Darrel lately and in walked
Hazel Wooley with Niggles long lost bastard brother....
Nelson's carer seemed very attentive but did she manage to find him to
return him to the care home after the tea. That Hazel is awful. Did you
hear what she said about FAL? Bitch.
Was that before Nelson did a cartwheel into Martin Gibson, or, was it after
he punched that Cad Owen in the face? Mind you, I think that Gibson saying
Hazel was scum was the pot calling the kettle black, I said as much to Jude
and Ifty....
I think you are drifting into fiction here Toodles. Keep it real.
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Idea; we could create mini stories for those we never hear about?
Absolutely unheard of! Good idea, the SW's aren't too good at it are they?
I was only saying to Nelson the other day as we sat with Mandy Beesborough
and Graham Rider that we haven't seen much of Darrel lately and in walked
Hazel Wooley with Niggles long lost bastard brother....
Nelson's carer seemed very attentive but did she manage to find him to
return him to the care home after the tea. That Hazel is awful. Did you
hear what she said about FAL? Bitch.
Was that before Nelson did a cartwheel into Martin Gibson, or, was it after
he punched that Cad Owen in the face? Mind you, I think that Gibson saying
Hazel was scum was the pot calling the kettle black, I said as much to Jude
and Ifty....
I think you are drifting into fiction here Toodles. Keep it real.
IMO, much of this is as, or more believable than is contained in that FOTWD
called The Archers.πŸ˜‰
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Idea; we could create mini stories for those we never hear about?
Absolutely unheard of! Good idea, the SW's aren't too good at it are they?
I was only saying to Nelson the other day as we sat with Mandy Beesborough
and Graham Rider that we haven't seen much of Darrel lately and in walked
Hazel Wooley with Niggles long lost bastard brother....
Nelson's carer seemed very attentive but did she manage to find him to
return him to the care home after the tea. That Hazel is awful. Did you
hear what she said about FAL? Bitch.
Was that before Nelson did a cartwheel into Martin Gibson, or, was it after
he punched that Cad Owen in the face? Mind you, I think that Gibson saying
Hazel was scum was the pot calling the kettle black, I said as much to Jude
and Ifty....
I think you are drifting into fiction here Toodles. Keep it real.
IMO, much of this is as, or more believable than is contained in that FOTWD
called The Archers.πŸ˜‰
You meanthat Nelson is still alive! C'mon Toodles.... get a grip.
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Idea; we could create mini stories for those we never hear about?
Absolutely unheard of! Good idea, the SW's aren't too good at it are they?
I was only saying to Nelson the other day as we sat with Mandy Beesborough
and Graham Rider that we haven't seen much of Darrel lately and in walked
Hazel Wooley with Niggles long lost bastard brother....
Nelson's carer seemed very attentive but did she manage to find him to
return him to the care home after the tea. That Hazel is awful. Did you
hear what she said about FAL? Bitch.
Was that before Nelson did a cartwheel into Martin Gibson, or, was it after
he punched that Cad Owen in the face? Mind you, I think that Gibson saying
Hazel was scum was the pot calling the kettle black, I said as much to Jude
and Ifty....
I think you are drifting into fiction here Toodles. Keep it real.
IMO, much of this is as, or more believable than is contained in that FOTWD
called The Archers.πŸ˜‰
You meanthat Nelson is still alive! C'mon Toodles.... get a grip.
I haven't heard anyone say he has KTB'd.
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Was that before Nelson did a cartwheel into Martin Gibson, or, was it after
he punched that Cad Owen in the face? Mind you, I think that Gibson saying
Hazel was scum was the pot calling the kettle black, I said as much to Jude
and Ifty....
I think you are drifting into fiction here Toodles. Keep it real.
IMO, much of this is as, or more believable than is contained in that FOTWD
called The Archers.πŸ˜‰
You meanthat Nelson is still alive! C'mon Toodles.... get a grip.
I haven't heard anyone say he has KTB'd.
Yebut...
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Was that before Nelson did a cartwheel into Martin Gibson, or, was it after
he punched that Cad Owen in the face? Mind you, I think that Gibson saying
Hazel was scum was the pot calling the kettle black, I said as much to Jude
and Ifty....
I think you are drifting into fiction here Toodles. Keep it real.
IMO, much of this is as, or more believable than is contained in that FOTWD
called The Archers.πŸ˜‰
You meanthat Nelson is still alive! C'mon Toodles.... get a grip.
I haven't heard anyone say he has KTB'd.
Yebut...
Wibble, wibble... πŸ˜‰
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Hmm, if we assume Oliver's about 70, Elizabeth is 20 years his
junior - that's a larger age gap (although in the more conventional
direction) than the 16 years between him and Jill. I don't think
Elizabeth has ever shown any great interest in men significantly
older than she is, so that seems pretty unlikely to me.
(I think it'd be a good match, though I'm not sure they even know each
other.)
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If we need to find him a new partner, from amongst the people we know
Which of course we don't. One can remain single. (Especially when
recently bereaved by his soul-mate.)
Post by Serena Blanchflower
in Ambridge, Kathy (at 65) would seem to be the obvious candidate, if
an unlikely one. This would be a good excuse to bring her back to the
cast, as well.
I _would_ like Kathy back, I agree.
MTAAW
I guess her friend upset someone with influence. She seems to have
something of the untouchable about
Her as she isn't even named now.
Idea; we could create mini stories for those we never hear about?
What an excellent idea. All we need now is an overall title to bring the
stories together under. Something with the flavour of Ambridge but
offering a little bit extra. Any ideas?

Nick
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I _would_ like Kathy back, I agree.
MTAAW
I guess her friend upset someone with influence. She seems to have
something of the untouchable about
Her as she isn't even named now.
Idea; we could create mini stories for those we never hear about?
It's called fanfiction, and is quite big in the Star Trek world. It does
have a tendency to move into the pornographic area, given the numbers of
attractive women and men there ...
Post by Nick Odell
What an excellent idea. All we need now is an overall title to bring
the stories together under. Something with the flavour of Ambridge but
offering a little bit extra. Any ideas?
Ah. Oh. No, anything but that ... that guy they've got pushing Digital
Radio is really irritating me. No, I don't want hundreds (?) of new
stations: I only listen to less than six already (two mainly, and one of
those mainly for the traffic reports).
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Nick
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that guy they've got pushing Digital Radio is really irritating me. No,
I don't want hundreds (?) of new stations: I only listen to less than
six already
Perhaps if there were less digital stations the quality might be better?
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that guy they've got pushing Digital Radio is really irritating me. No,
I don't want hundreds (?) of new stations: I only listen to less than
six already
Perhaps if there were less digital stations the quality might be better?
Indeed, when did the 12 minutes of TA squirted out of the DAB hose in the
evening appear in stereo???!
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Post by krw
that guy they've got pushing Digital Radio is really irritating me. No,
I don't want hundreds (?) of new stations: I only listen to less than
six already
Perhaps if there were less digital stations the quality might be better?
Indeed, when did the 12 minutes of TA squirted out of the DAB hose in the
evening appear in stereo???!
As I do not have DAB radio any longer in the house (whoops - a lie - I
do have one but do not use the DAB facility) I cannot answer the
question. Currently listening to the omnibus in stereo as a podcast
download to phone.
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Post by krw
that guy they've got pushing Digital Radio is really irritating me. No,
I don't want hundreds (?) of new stations: I only listen to less than
six already
Perhaps if there were less digital stations the quality might be better?
Indeed, when did the 12 minutes of TA squirted out of the DAB hose in
the evening appear in stereo???!
4Extra still isn't. It doesn't matter for a lot of the time but . . .
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that guy they've got pushing Digital Radio is really irritating me. No,
I don't want hundreds (?) of new stations: I only listen to less than
six already
Perhaps if there were less digital stations the quality might be better?
FEWER! IGMC . . .
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that guy they've got pushing Digital Radio is really irritating me.
No, I don't want hundreds (?) of new stations: I only listen to less
than six already
Perhaps if there were less digital stations the quality might be better?
True: given a maximum available bandwidth, the bigger the quantity the
fewer the quality available for each.

Nick
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Hmm, if we assume Oliver's about 70, Elizabeth is 20 years his
junior - that's a larger age gap (although in the more conventional
direction) than the 16 years between him and Jill. I don't think
Elizabeth has ever shown any great interest in men significantly
older than she is, so that seems pretty unlikely to me.
(I think it'd be a good match, though I'm not sure they even know each
other.)
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If we need to find him a new partner, from amongst the people we know
Which of course we don't. One can remain single. (Especially when
recently bereaved by his soul-mate.)
Post by Serena Blanchflower
in Ambridge, Kathy (at 65) would seem to be the obvious candidate, if
an unlikely one. This would be a good excuse to bring her back to the
cast, as well.
I _would_ like Kathy back, I agree.
MTAAW
I guess her friend upset someone with influence. She seems to have
something of the untouchable about
Her as she isn't even named now.
Idea; we could create mini stories for those we never hear about?
What an excellent idea. All we need now is an overall title to bring the
stories together under. Something with the flavour of Ambridge but
offering a little bit extra. Any ideas?
Nick
How about 'Ambridge Extra' err....
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Post by Serena Blanchflower
Hmm, if we assume Oliver's about 70, Elizabeth is 20 years his
junior - that's a larger age gap (although in the more conventional
direction) than the 16 years between him and Jill. I don't think
Elizabeth has ever shown any great interest in men significantly
older than she is, so that seems pretty unlikely to me.
(I think it'd be a good match, though I'm not sure they even know each
other.)
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If we need to find him a new partner, from amongst the people we know
Which of course we don't. One can remain single. (Especially when
recently bereaved by his soul-mate.)
Post by Serena Blanchflower
in Ambridge, Kathy (at 65) would seem to be the obvious candidate, if
an unlikely one. This would be a good excuse to bring her back to the
cast, as well.
I _would_ like Kathy back, I agree.
MTAAW
I guess her friend upset someone with influence. She seems to have
something of the untouchable about
Her as she isn't even named now.
It has been said elsewhere that her friend's husband is seriously ill.
This may be a factor in her non-appearance.
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Post by Btms
I guess her friend upset someone with influence. She seems to have
something of the untouchable about
Her as she isn't even named now.
It has been said elsewhere that her friend's husband is seriously ill.
This may be a factor in her non-appearance.
Oh dear. They don't even mention her now though.
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I guess her friend upset someone with influence. She seems to have
something of the untouchable about
Her as she isn't even named now.
It has been said elsewhere that her friend's husband is seriously ill.
This may be a factor in her non-appearance.
Oh dear. They don't even mention her now though.
If TA had a sensible Editor they should insist that off-mike characters
live a rich half-life which could be mentioned in brief asides.

"Did Kathy get that altitude record?"
"Yes, in the end.
But there was quite a fuss over wind speeds with one of the judges
suggesting she should be disqualified."
"I'm glad it came out all right. Any more tea in that pot?"
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Post by Serena Blanchflower
Hmm, if we assume Oliver's about 70, Elizabeth is 20 years his
junior - that's a larger age gap (although in the more conventional
direction) than the 16 years between him and Jill. I don't think
Elizabeth has ever shown any great interest in men significantly
older than she is, so that seems pretty unlikely to me.
(I think it'd be a good match, though I'm not sure they even know each
other.)
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If we need to find him a new partner, from amongst the people we know
Which of course we don't. One can remain single. (Especially when
recently bereaved by his soul-mate.)
Post by Serena Blanchflower
in Ambridge, Kathy (at 65) would seem to be the obvious candidate, if
an unlikely one. This would be a good excuse to bring her back to the
cast, as well.
I _would_ like Kathy back, I agree.
MTAAW
I guess her friend upset someone with influence. She seems to have
something of the untouchable about
Her as she isn't even named now.
It has been said elsewhere that her friend's husband is seriously ill.
This may be a factor in her non-appearance.
I've just looked this up. It seems that her husband was Leon Tanner, who
died in 2012 aged 70. The obituary I found also said that "radio fans heard
him as Det Insp Coverdale in The Archers, wooing and winning the German au
pair, Eva Lenz, played by his wife, Hedli Niklaus". Although I've been
listening on and off since I was a child (my father used to listen), I
don't remember a German au pair.

Not many people know that.
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[]
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Hmm, if we assume Oliver's about 70, Elizabeth is 20 years his
junior - that's a larger age gap (although in the more conventional
direction) than the 16 years between him and Jill. I don't think
Elizabeth has ever shown any great interest in men significantly
older than she is, so that seems pretty unlikely to me.
(I think it'd be a good match, though I'm not sure they even know each
other.)
Post by Serena Blanchflower
If we need to find him a new partner, from amongst the people we know
Which of course we don't. One can remain single. (Especially when
recently bereaved by his soul-mate.)
Post by Serena Blanchflower
in Ambridge, Kathy (at 65) would seem to be the obvious candidate, if
an unlikely one. This would be a good excuse to bring her back to the
cast, as well.
I _would_ like Kathy back, I agree.
MTAAW
I guess her friend upset someone with influence. She seems to have
something of the untouchable about
Her as she isn't even named now.
It has been said elsewhere that her friend's husband is seriously ill.
This may be a factor in her non-appearance.
I've just looked this up. It seems that her husband was Leon Tanner, who
died in 2012 aged 70. The obituary I found also said that "radio fans heard
him as Det Insp Coverdale in The Archers, wooing and winning the German au
pair, Eva Lenz, played by his wife, Hedli Niklaus". Although I've been
listening on and off since I was a child (my father used to listen), I
don't remember a German au pair.
Not many people know that.
Certainly didn't know (or remember) Leon Tanner had passed away.

Sincerely Chris
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Certainly didn't know (or remember) Leon Tanner had passed away.
Perhaps TPTB at TA don't know either.
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Post by Serena Blanchflower
Hmm, if we assume Oliver's about 70, Elizabeth is 20 years his
junior - that's a larger age gap (although in the more conventional
direction) than the 16 years between him and Jill. I don't think
Elizabeth has ever shown any great interest in men significantly
older than she is, so that seems pretty unlikely to me.
(I think it'd be a good match, though I'm not sure they even know each
other.)
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If we need to find him a new partner, from amongst the people we know
Which of course we don't. One can remain single. (Especially when
recently bereaved by his soul-mate.)
Post by Serena Blanchflower
in Ambridge, Kathy (at 65) would seem to be the obvious candidate, if
an unlikely one. This would be a good excuse to bring her back to the
cast, as well.
I _would_ like Kathy back, I agree.
MTAAW
I guess her friend upset someone with influence. She seems to have
something of the untouchable about
Her as she isn't even named now.
It has been said elsewhere that her friend's husband is seriously ill.
This may be a factor in her non-appearance.
I've just looked this up. It seems that her husband was Leon Tanner, who
died in 2012 aged 70.
Ah right, thanks. So unless she has remarried and been rather unlucky,
the reports of a seriously ill husband are incorrect.
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I _would_ like Kathy back, I agree.
MTAAW
I guess her friend upset someone with influence. She seems to have
something of the untouchable about
Her as she isn't even named now.
I thought her name was mentioned this week in relation to who had been told
the news.
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I _would_ like Kathy back, I agree.
MTAAW
I guess her friend upset someone with influence. She seems to have
something of the untouchable about
Her as she isn't even named now.
I thought her name was mentioned this week in relation to who had been told
the news.
I wont have heard this yet.
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I _would_ like Kathy back, I agree.
MTAAW
I guess her friend upset someone with influence. She seems to have
something of the untouchable about
Her as she isn't even named now.
I thought her name was mentioned this week in relation to who had been told
the news.
I think it was. And she was said to be running the White Elephant at the
Fete - AFAIR she was credited with doing the White Elephant last year
(in silence, of course). Elephant in the room, more like! She ought to
be quite a central figure now that Grey Gables' management will be under
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I _would_ like Kathy back, I agree.
MTAAW
I guess her friend upset someone with influence. She seems to have
something of the untouchable about
Her as she isn't even named now.
I thought her name was mentioned this week in relation to who had been told
the news.
I think it was. And she was said to be running the White Elephant at the
Fete - AFAIR she was credited with doing the White Elephant last year
(in silence, of course). Elephant in the room, more like! She ought to
be quite a central figure now that Grey Gables' management will be under
review.
Can but hope. What's happened to Archers Addicts? She ran that.

Sincerely Chris
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I _would_ like Kathy back, I agree.
MTAAW
I guess her friend upset someone with influence. She seems to have
something of the untouchable about
Her as she isn't even named now.
I thought her name was mentioned this week in relation to who had been told
the news.
I think it was. And she was said to be running the White Elephant at the
Fete - AFAIR she was credited with doing the White Elephant last year
(in silence, of course). Elephant in the room, more like! She ought to
be quite a central figure now that Grey Gables' management will be under
review.
Can but hope. What's happened to Archers Addicts? She ran that.
Sincerely Chris
It closed iirc.
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I _would_ like Kathy back, I agree.
MTAAW
I guess her friend upset someone with influence. She seems to have
something of the untouchable about
Her as she isn't even named now.
I thought her name was mentioned this week in relation to who had been told
the news.
I think it was. And she was said to be running the White Elephant at the
Fete - AFAIR she was credited with doing the White Elephant last year
(in silence, of course). Elephant in the room, more like! She ought to
be quite a central figure now that Grey Gables' management will be under
review.
Can but hope. What's happened to Archers Addicts? She ran that.
Sincerely Chris
It closed iirc.
Oh, why? Rise of social media?

Sincerely Chris
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Oh, why? Rise of social media?
It transmuted to a Facebook page I believe and then there was some
unpleasantness and that was closed.
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Oh, why? Rise of social media?
It transmuted to a Facebook page I believe and then there was some
unpleasantness and that was closed.
Bit hard on those who are non 'puter users or non social media users.

Sincerely Chris
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Oh, why? Rise of social media?
It transmuted to a Facebook page I believe and then there was some
unpleasantness and that was closed.
Because, of course, all BBC listeners have FB.

I was listening to something on R2 on Sunday night. The presenter
said "it's simple to contact the show, via by text on 88291 or our FB
page".

What they don't tell you is that the text number is a premium rate,
not normally included in inclusive packages. And not everyone uses
FB.
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I _would_ like Kathy back, I agree.
MTAAW
I guess her friend upset someone with influence. She seems to have
something of the untouchable about
Her as she isn't even named now.
I thought her name was mentioned this week in relation to who had been told
the news.
That's all we get, an occasional mention of Kath, nothing of Jamie - which
is odd in itself as didn't he used to be Josh's friend?

Sincerely Chris
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That's all we get, an occasional mention of Kath, nothing of Jamie - which
is odd in itself as didn't he used to be Josh's friend?
Sincerely Chris
And (a) at one point seemed to be going down the delinquency route (b)
wasn't he considering tree surgery (?), learning from umbrella? Both of
which - as well as being Josh's friend - _ought_ to make him mentioned
more.
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That's all we get, an occasional mention of Kath, nothing of Jamie - which
is odd in itself as didn't he used to be Josh's friend?
Sincerely Chris
And (a) at one point seemed to be going down the delinquency route (b)
wasn't he considering tree surgery (?), learning from umbrella? Both of
which - as well as being Josh's friend - _ought_ to make him mentioned
more.
The online Who's Who has him listed as a trainee train surgeon still,
with his boss being Isaac. Somebody that I don't think we'd heard of
until Jamie signed up with him.

Jamie was born 20/07/1995, and is now almost 22. I believe that he went
into tree surgery after his GCSEs, refusing to do A levels first. He
would have been just 16 then, so he has been with Isaac for 6 years. I'm
wondering how long it takes to train a tree surgeon, wouldn't he have
progressed to being a junior tree surgeon by now?
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Jamie was born 20/07/1995, and is now almost 22. I believe that he went
into tree surgery after his GCSEs, refusing to do A levels first. He
would have been just 16 then, so he has been with Isaac for 6 years. I'm
wondering how long it takes to train a tree surgeon, wouldn't he have
progressed to being a junior tree surgeon by now?
Does a tree surgeon ever progress if nobody hears him?
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Jamie was born 20/07/1995, and is now almost 22. I believe that he went
into tree surgery after his GCSEs, refusing to do A levels first. He
would have been just 16 then, so he has been with Isaac for 6 years. I'm
wondering how long it takes to train a tree surgeon, wouldn't he have
progressed to being a junior tree surgeon by now?
Does a tree surgeon ever progress if nobody hears him?
Zen did you think that one up?

Nick
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Jamie was born 20/07/1995, and is now almost 22. I believe that he went
into tree surgery after his GCSEs, refusing to do A levels first. He
would have been just 16 then, so he has been with Isaac for 6 years. I'm
wondering how long it takes to train a tree surgeon, wouldn't he have
progressed to being a junior tree surgeon by now?
Does a tree surgeon ever progress if nobody hears him?
Zen did you think that one up?
Nick
That has familiar rings to it.
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That's all we get, an occasional mention of Kath, nothing of Jamie - which
is odd in itself as didn't he used to be Josh's friend?
Sincerely Chris
And (a) at one point seemed to be going down the delinquency route
(b) wasn't he considering tree surgery (?), learning from umbrella?
Both of which - as well as being Josh's friend - _ought_ to make him
mentioned more.
The online Who's Who has him listed as a trainee train surgeon still,
[Scalpel ... forceps ... big end ... boiler ...]
Post by carolet
with his boss being Isaac. Somebody that I don't think we'd heard of
(The umbrella I was thinking of was - is it Moike? - one of the main
cast, anyway, who _is_ a tree surgeon. I'd forgotten he'd gone to
someone else more trained in training, as it were.)
Post by carolet
until Jamie signed up with him.
Jamie was born 20/07/1995, and is now almost 22. I believe that he went
into tree surgery after his GCSEs, refusing to do A levels first. He
Yes, matches my hazy memory. Considerable schimpfing with his mother
about not doing the As; I think Moike (?) smoothed the waters by
suggesting.
Post by carolet
would have been just 16 then, so he has been with Isaac for 6 years.
I'm wondering how long it takes to train a tree surgeon, wouldn't he
have progressed to being a junior tree surgeon by now?
You'd have thought so (purely by analogy with other professions; I know
nothing of that one).
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That's all we get, an occasional mention of Kath, nothing of Jamie - which
is odd in itself as didn't he used to be Josh's friend?
Sincerely Chris
And (a) at one point seemed to be going down the delinquency route
(b) wasn't he considering tree surgery (?), learning from umbrella?
Both of which - as well as being Josh's friend - _ought_ to make him
mentioned more.
The online Who's Who has him listed as a trainee train surgeon still,
[Scalpel ... forceps ... big end ... boiler ...]
Post by carolet
with his boss being Isaac. Somebody that I don't think we'd heard of
(The umbrella I was thinking of was - is it Moike? - one of the main
cast, anyway, who _is_ a tree surgeon. I'd forgotten he'd gone to
someone else more trained in training, as it were.)
I think he started off working with Moike, who wasn't a qualified tree
surgeon but did odd bits of hedge trimming around the place. He
recommended that Jamie went and did a proper apprenticeship with this
other chap and persuaded Kathy that it would be a good idea.
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That's all we get, an occasional mention of Kath, nothing of Jamie - which
is odd in itself as didn't he used to be Josh's friend?
Sincerely Chris
And (a) at one point seemed to be going down the delinquency route (b)
wasn't he considering tree surgery (?), learning from umbrella? Both of
which - as well as being Josh's friend - _ought_ to make him mentioned
more.
The online Who's Who has him listed as a trainee train surgeon still,
with his boss being Isaac. Somebody that I don't think we'd heard of
until Jamie signed up with him.
Jamie was born 20/07/1995, and is now almost 22. I believe that he went
into tree surgery after his GCSEs, refusing to do A levels first. He
would have been just 16 then, so he has been with Isaac for 6 years. I'm
wondering how long it takes to train a tree surgeon, wouldn't he have
progressed to being a junior tree surgeon by now?
The on line who's who is seriously out of date .......

Sincerely Chris
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The on line who's who is seriously out of date .......
Probably down to the lack of archivist to produce a cheaper programme.
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That's all we get, an occasional mention of Kath, nothing of Jamie - which
is odd in itself as didn't he used to be Josh's friend?
Sincerely Chris
And (a) at one point seemed to be going down the delinquency route (b)
wasn't he considering tree surgery (?), learning from umbrella? Both of
which - as well as being Josh's friend - _ought_ to make him mentioned
more.
The online Who's Who has him listed as a trainee train surgeon still,
with his boss being Isaac. Somebody that I don't think we'd heard of
until Jamie signed up with him.
Jamie was born 20/07/1995, and is now almost 22. I believe that he went
into tree surgery after his GCSEs, refusing to do A levels first. He
would have been just 16 then, so he has been with Isaac for 6 years. I'm
wondering how long it takes to train a tree surgeon, wouldn't he have
progressed to being a junior tree surgeon by now?
The on line who's who is seriously out of date .......
Sincerely Chris
Well for some better read that as left hanging in limbo such as Jamie still
pot washing at The Bull and training?

Sincerely Chris
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That's all we get, an occasional mention of Kath, nothing of Jamie - which
is odd in itself as didn't he used to be Josh's friend?
Sincerely Chris
And (a) at one point seemed to be going down the delinquency route (b)
wasn't he considering tree surgery (?), learning from umbrella? Both of
which - as well as being Josh's friend - _ought_ to make him mentioned
more.
The online Who's Who has him listed as a trainee train surgeon still,
with his boss being Isaac. Somebody that I don't think we'd heard of
until Jamie signed up with him.
Jamie was born 20/07/1995, and is now almost 22. I believe that he went
into tree surgery after his GCSEs, refusing to do A levels first. He
would have been just 16 then, so he has been with Isaac for 6 years. I'm
wondering how long it takes to train a tree surgeon, wouldn't he have
progressed to being a junior tree surgeon by now?
The on line who's who is seriously out of date .......
Sincerely Chris
Yes, but my books are even further out of date. The most recent printed
Who's Who says that Jamie is at college and Kathy is hoping that he will
do well there.

I didn't think that he went to college. Perhaps he did a year there
before giving up, or maybe it was only a few months, I know he didn't do
A levels. It may be only 5 years since he started his tree surgeon
apprenticeship.
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I didn't think that he went to college. Perhaps he did a year there
before giving up, or maybe it was only a few months, I know he didn't do
A levels. It may be only 5 years since he started his tree surgeon
apprenticeship.
An apprenticship in Arboriculture would have required him to attend
college on day release and do a level 2 and/or 3 NVQ in Arb and
possibly a National Certificate/Diploma. The full time ND is a 2 year
programme, but he could quite easily have completed a level 2 and a
level 3 apprenticeship, plus his chainsaw qualifications in 3 years.
By now he should be well and truly qualified and looking to be working
for himself (rather like Chris Carter, but without the need to
purchase a forge). He would have his own van and equipment.
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I didn't think that he went to college. Perhaps he did a year there
before giving up, or maybe it was only a few months, I know he didn't do
A levels. It may be only 5 years since he started his tree surgeon
apprenticeship.
An apprenticship in Arboriculture would have required him to attend
college on day release and do a level 2 and/or 3 NVQ in Arb and
possibly a National Certificate/Diploma. The full time ND is a 2 year
programme, but he could quite easily have completed a level 2 and a
level 3 apprenticeship, plus his chainsaw qualifications in 3 years.
By now he should be well and truly qualified and looking to be working
for himself (rather like Chris Carter, but without the need to
purchase a forge). He would have his own van and equipment.
Fenny, you are our tree specialist! Seriously, I'd forgotten you knew
these things. Thanks.

Sincerely Chris
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Post by carolet
I didn't think that he went to college. Perhaps he did a year there
before giving up, or maybe it was only a few months, I know he didn't do
A levels. It may be only 5 years since he started his tree surgeon
apprenticeship.
An apprenticship in Arboriculture would have required him to attend
college on day release and do a level 2 and/or 3 NVQ in Arb and
possibly a National Certificate/Diploma. The full time ND is a 2 year
programme, but he could quite easily have completed a level 2 and a
level 3 apprenticeship, plus his chainsaw qualifications in 3 years.
By now he should be well and truly qualified and looking to be working
for himself (rather like Chris Carter, but without the need to
purchase a forge). He would have his own van and equipment.
Fenny, you are our tree specialist! Seriously, I'd forgotten you knew
these things. Thanks.
More a former Work Based Learning Manager. Land based courses weren't
my area, but I know enough about the old style apprenticeships to know
what would have been the case. I got out before the new style
frameworks started last April.
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Post by carolet
I didn't think that he went to college. Perhaps he did a year there
before giving up, or maybe it was only a few months, I know he didn't do
A levels. It may be only 5 years since he started his tree surgeon
apprenticeship.
An apprenticship in Arboriculture would have required him to attend
college on day release and do a level 2 and/or 3 NVQ in Arb and
possibly a National Certificate/Diploma. The full time ND is a 2 year
programme, but he could quite easily have completed a level 2 and a
level 3 apprenticeship, plus his chainsaw qualifications in 3 years.
By now he should be well and truly qualified and looking to be working
for himself (rather like Chris Carter, but without the need to
purchase a forge). He would have his own van and equipment.
Fenny, you are our tree specialist! Seriously, I'd forgotten you knew
these things. Thanks.
More a former Work Based Learning Manager. Land based courses weren't
my area, but I know enough about the old style apprenticeships to know
what would have been the case. I got out before the new style
frameworks started last April.
I sort of did some of that while organising basic skills. This was
Literacy, Numeracy and ESOL. We ran literacy courses for London
Transport and literacy and ESOL in care homes, and ESOL in a night
club! China White :). We had the department Christmas party there one
year too.

Oh we ran ESOL on building sites too. People needed the basic skills
to get the NVQs as those became compulsory in various trades. And we
ran Food Hygiene certs and ESOL/Food Hygiene ones too.
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Post by carolet
I didn't think that he went to college. Perhaps he did a year there
before giving up, or maybe it was only a few months, I know he didn't do
A levels. It may be only 5 years since he started his tree surgeon
apprenticeship.
An apprenticship in Arboriculture would have required him to attend
college on day release and do a level 2 and/or 3 NVQ in Arb and
possibly a National Certificate/Diploma. The full time ND is a 2 year
programme, but he could quite easily have completed a level 2 and a
level 3 apprenticeship, plus his chainsaw qualifications in 3 years.
By now he should be well and truly qualified and looking to be working
for himself (rather like Chris Carter, but without the need to
purchase a forge). He would have his own van and equipment.
Fenny, you are our tree specialist! Seriously, I'd forgotten you knew
these things. Thanks.
Sincerely Chris
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Post by carolet
I didn't think that he went to college. Perhaps he did a year there
before giving up, or maybe it was only a few months, I know he didn't do
A levels. It may be only 5 years since he started his tree surgeon
apprenticeship.
An apprenticship in Arboriculture would have required him to attend
college on day release and do a level 2 and/or 3 NVQ in Arb and
possibly a National Certificate/Diploma. The full time ND is a 2 year
programme, but he could quite easily have completed a level 2 and a
level 3 apprenticeship, plus his chainsaw qualifications in 3 years.
By now he should be well and truly qualified and looking to be working
for himself (rather like Chris Carter, but without the need to
purchase a forge). He would have his own van and equipment.
Fenny, you are our tree specialist! Seriously, I'd forgotten you knew
these things. Thanks.
Sincerely Chris
Respect for our elders.
Yew May think that.

Nick

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I didn't think that he went to college. Perhaps he did a year there
before giving up, or maybe it was only a few months, I know he didn't do
A levels. It may be only 5 years since he started his tree surgeon
apprenticeship.
An apprenticship in Arboriculture would have required him to attend
college on day release and do a level 2 and/or 3 NVQ in Arb and
possibly a National Certificate/Diploma. The full time ND is a 2 year
programme, but he could quite easily have completed a level 2 and a
level 3 apprenticeship, plus his chainsaw qualifications in 3 years.
By now he should be well and truly qualified and looking to be working
for himself (rather like Chris Carter, but without the need to
purchase a forge). He would have his own van and equipment.
Would he need Maths GCSE like Freddie?
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Post by carolet
I didn't think that he went to college. Perhaps he did a year there
before giving up, or maybe it was only a few months, I know he didn't do
A levels. It may be only 5 years since he started his tree surgeon
apprenticeship.
An apprenticship in Arboriculture would have required him to attend
college on day release and do a level 2 and/or 3 NVQ in Arb and
possibly a National Certificate/Diploma. The full time ND is a 2 year
programme, but he could quite easily have completed a level 2 and a
level 3 apprenticeship, plus his chainsaw qualifications in 3 years.
By now he should be well and truly qualified and looking to be working
for himself (rather like Chris Carter, but without the need to
purchase a forge). He would have his own van and equipment.
Would he need Maths GCSE like Freddie?
No. Not under the old style frameworks. He could have done
Functional Skills if he didn't pass his GCSE.

Apprentices were exempt from the requirement to continue attempting
Maths & English GCSE until they were 18, as the exam times are too
restrictive for an apprenticeship timeframe. But they did have to
pass whatever the FS requirements for their framework were - including
ICT, if that was deemed necessary by the Sector Skills Council.
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That's all we get, an occasional mention of Kath, nothing of Jamie - which
is odd in itself as didn't he used to be Josh's friend?
Sincerely Chris
And (a) at one point seemed to be going down the delinquency route (b)
wasn't he considering tree surgery (?), learning from umbrella? Both of
which - as well as being Josh's friend - _ought_ to make him mentioned
more.
Tree surgery with Moike, yes. Writing Moike and Vick and Highley out was a
SoC device though.

Sincerely Chris
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How old is he then? Caroline was only 62 - it is likely he'd now
turn to someone of 86 like Jill?
Oliver Sterling's age is not given. His best friend is 70.
I would have guessed Oliver to be about that. I always had the
impression that he was a few years older than Caroline, but not an
exceptional age gap.
He's still unlikely to turn to Jill, who is old enough to be
Caroline's mother.
I agree that he's unlikely to fall for Jill.
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Elizabeth, perhaps?
Hmm, if we assume Oliver's about 70, Elizabeth is 20 years his junior
- that's a larger age gap (although in the more conventional
direction) than the 16 years between him and Jill. I don't think
Elizabeth has ever shown any great interest in men significantly older
than she is, so that seems pretty unlikely to me.
If we need to find him a new partner, from amongst the people we know in
Ambridge, Kathy (at 65) would seem to be the obvious candidate, if an
unlikely one. This would be a good excuse to bring her back to the
cast, as well.
Wasn't that Scottish fellow who dun her wrong significantly older? It
might not have been twenty years but even ten years older would have
been a more significant gap when she was as young as she was then.

Nick
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How old is he then? Caroline was only 62 - it is likely he'd now
turn to someone of 86 like Jill?
Oliver Sterling's age is not given. His best friend is 70.
I would have guessed Oliver to be about that. I always had the
impression that he was a few years older than Caroline, but not an
exceptional age gap.
He's still unlikely to turn to Jill, who is old enough to be
Caroline's mother.
I agree that he's unlikely to fall for Jill.
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Elizabeth, perhaps?
Hmm, if we assume Oliver's about 70, Elizabeth is 20 years his junior
- that's a larger age gap (although in the more conventional
direction) than the 16 years between him and Jill. I don't think
Elizabeth has ever shown any great interest in men significantly
older than she is, so that seems pretty unlikely to me.
If we need to find him a new partner, from amongst the people we know
in Ambridge, Kathy (at 65) would seem to be the obvious candidate, if
an unlikely one. This would be a good excuse to bring her back to the
cast, as well.
Wasn't that Scottish fellow who dun her wrong significantly older? It
might not have been twenty years but even ten years older would have
been a more significant gap when she was as young as she was then.
Nick
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I don't think Elizabeth has ever shown any great interest in men
significantly older than she is
I believe Cameron was a lot older than Lizzie.
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I don't think Elizabeth has ever shown any great interest in men
significantly older than she is
I believe Cameron was a lot older than Lizzie.
I thought so.
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I don't think Elizabeth has ever shown any great interest in men
significantly older than she is
I believe Cameron was a lot older than Lizzie.
And so of course was Robin Fairbrother, so in those days she did seem to
prefer the older man.
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I don't think Elizabeth has ever shown any great interest in men
significantly older than she is
I believe Cameron was a lot older than Lizzie.
And so of course was Robin Fairbrother, so in those days she did seem to
prefer the older man.
Yes, you're right.
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I don't think Elizabeth has ever shown any great interest in men
significantly older than she is
I believe Cameron was a lot older than Lizzie.
Which meant that fortunately he'd grown out of those pig's head
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I don't think Elizabeth has ever shown any great interest in men
significantly older than she is
I believe Cameron was a lot older than Lizzie.
Which meant that fortunately he'd grown out of those pig's head
activities he engaged in when he was at university.
Fake news ! SAD ! Bigly.....
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I don't think Elizabeth has ever shown any great interest in men
significantly older than she is
I believe Cameron was a lot older than Lizzie.
Which meant that fortunately he'd grown out of those pig's head
activities he engaged in when he was at university.
Fake news ! SAD ! Bigly.....
covfefe
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I don't think Elizabeth has ever shown any great interest in men
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I believe Cameron was a lot older than Lizzie.
Which meant that fortunately he'd grown out of those pig's head
activities he engaged in when he was at university.
Fake news ! SAD ! Bigly.....
covfefe
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I don't think Elizabeth has ever shown any great interest in men
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I believe Cameron was a lot older than Lizzie.
Which meant that fortunately he'd grown out of those pig's head
activities he engaged in when he was at university.
Fake news ! SAD ! Bigly.....
covfefe
*splutter*

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I was worrying about the Grundies losing their home too.
Don't worry. Oliver was always keener on housing the Grundies than
Caroline who does not (as far as I am aware) own any part of Grange
Farm. I cannot remember if Oliver also bought in Gay Grables or not.
He certainly helped run it for a while.
I can see him returning to the village to live - there are several
suitable places he might acquire.
However I do think that there will be change at Gay Grables - will
Caroline have left something to Will? Ian? Kathy? Roy? Shula? All
her money was tied up in GG so if there are gifts then Oliver may have
to sell to provide the gifts?
Changes are afoot.
Most likely to Willyerm her godson in hard cash? Her horse to Shula.
Presumably Shula has been looking after said 'orse, though it must be
getting on a bit so maybe there is no 'orse which made it easier to go to
Italy. SWs didn't tie up loose ends?

Sincerely Chris
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I was worrying about the Grundies losing their home too.
Don't worry. Oliver was always keener on housing the Grundies than
Caroline who does not (as far as I am aware) own any part of Grange
Farm. I cannot remember if Oliver also bought in Gay Grables or not.
He certainly helped run it for a while.
I can see him returning to the village to live - there are several
suitable places he might acquire.
However I do think that there will be change at Gay Grables - will
Caroline have left something to Will? Ian? Kathy? Roy? Shula? All
her money was tied up in GG so if there are gifts then Oliver may have
to sell to provide the gifts?
Changes are afoot.
Perhaps if he is foiled on the housing development Justin might
redevelop GG as a care home or apartment block.
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With regard to the puppy, apart from the scandalous message being sent by
the scriptwriters that it's okay to dump an unsolicited puppy on someone's
doorstep, I thought at close of play yesterday that even if Lilian had
expressed the slightest interest in having a dog she wouldn't have anything
in the house to look after it - a bed, food etc.
My OP is that she will offer the puppy to Lynda who is used to dogs, misses
Scruff and probably has everything needed. It's also a nice peace offering
and solves the problem of what to tell Justin.
Wot we said.

Sincerely Chris
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