On Sat, 22 Jul 2017 18:12:35 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John) Post by Jenny M Benson
There was an item on the news yesterday (I think, or else it was
Thursday) about children using some app on their mobiles and being
"groomed" by perverts. Apparently, it was all the fault of the Twitter
people who "own" this app that children as young as 13, in their own
bedrooms and classrooms, being asked what was their bra size and to
lift up their shirts, etc.
AIAOU in thinking that it's not the fault of the Twitter people at all
(or hardly at all) but a serious lack of good parenting in allowing
children to be using such an app, unsupervised, in the privacy of their
bedrooms? And a serious lack of good something-or-other by school
staff that children are even allowed to have mobile phones in school?
Difficult one. While on the whole I agree with you: unless you don't
allow them to have smartphones at all (I think that's the distinction
between ones that can run "app"s - right?), they're going to get these
app.s. (Any limitation parents try to impose will be got round - it's
well known that kids are usually ahead of their parents; came to the
fore first, I think, with video recorders. To quote Tom Lehrer, although
he was talking about something else: "It's so simple - so very simple -
that only a child can do it!")
So, once they've got these app.s, the next hurdle is how to stop them
using them unsupervised (bedroom or anywhere else). I don't know enough
about such things technically, but I doubt there's any technical means
to do so. Which leaves only telling them not to - which I can't see
The schools matter is different: there, I agree with you totally - the
school should have absolute right to require fobile moans to be turned
off, at least during lessons. (And I mean fully off, not in
sleep/vibrate/whatever mode.) On penalty of confiscation at least.
I got a free sim with free data and x number of calls from talk talk
and we had an old phone, no internet ability, so I gave it to
grandson. He began walking home alone some days this year and I had to
collect his baby sister elsewhere at the same time and meet him there.
I liked that he had the phone.
When i checked about what happens in school, as several kids have
phones, I was told they all have to be switched off and handed in and
are kept in the office and given back at the end of the school day.
After a month or two I got an email from talktalk saying the allowance
of free calls had been execeeded and there was to be a charge of £17+
so they'd put a block on the sim until it was paid. I told them not to
unblock it as there had been a large allowance of called and checked
my account online. The call was a 20 second one to something called
trafficreport. I umbrella. There was no number showed up on my
account, just the name, but when I got the phone it showed 2222 had
I asked grandson if it was a game and he denied calling it so we
googled and it was a con talktalk had known about since 2013 and
should have blocked. I complained and they halved the bill. I
complained several times more and said close the a/c and they did and
removed the charge. I'm going to give grandson the phone back and
suggest his dad gets him a sim and a/c.
Grandson is addicted to online games and is allowed to use dad'd
computer and mum's laptop or tablet to play. I look at what he's
playing now and then when minding him and his sister after school. He
often goes to his room to get away from the 2 year old who wants his
attention. I do wonder whether I'd know if he were chatting
unsuitably. He does chat online.
He's going to a video games design course all next week. He's very
keen on that sort of thing and dad is a software engineer. In the
final year class booklet where all the children in the year had names,
photos and information about them, including what they hoped to do
after leaving school, he had put he wanted to be a senior computer
engineer. I loved that he put senior :).