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Mike Ruddock
2017-05-08 10:42:36 UTC
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Can anyone point me at some software to enable me to catalogue, edit and
print out my digital photographs.

I don't need any of those very complex things which tell me the range of
wavelengths present in the picture. I just want to be able to print the
pictures out in a range of sizes.

Mike Ruddock
Penny
2017-05-08 11:16:10 UTC
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Post by Mike Ruddock
Can anyone point me at some software to enable me to catalogue, edit and
print out my digital photographs.
Cataloguing? No
I use Irfanview for most things http://www.irfanview.com/ it's small but
pretty comprehensive, the only limitations are a lack of 'layers' and fancy
selection tools.
Post by Mike Ruddock
I just want to be able to print the
pictures out in a range of sizes.
That would be down to the selections made in the printer dialogue and the
capabilities of your printer.
Simplest solution, put the files on a stick and take it to Boots :)
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J. P. Gilliver (John)
2017-05-08 18:34:24 UTC
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Post by Mike Ruddock
Can anyone point me at some software to enable me to catalogue, edit and
print out my digital photographs.
Cataloguing? No
I use Irfanview for most things http://www.irfanview.com/ it's small but
pretty comprehensive, the only limitations are a lack of 'layers' and fancy
selection tools.
I was going to say the same: IrfanView plus Windows Explorer (to put
them into folders and subfolders).

I also like using it to edit embedded text: I then C when viewing one.
That has the advantage over other methods that the text actually becomes
part of the file, so doesn't get separated from it, however often you
move it (it even survives emailing).

I think the main thing to decide is, do you want to create "albums"
where the same picture may appear in more than one album? Things like
"dog pictures" and "family pictures", where there might be an image of a
family with their dog that you'd want to be in both "albums". If you
_do_ want to do this, there's no alternative but to use one of the fancy
cataloguing utilities. I don't like those because they basically compile
lists of the files in question - which lists then break if you move a
file. But if you want this ("tagging", or the same thing by another
name), then you have no option. (Well, you could I suppose put multiple
copies of the images in the relevant folders; disc space is cheap these
days - but I have a strong dislike of duplicates of any sort (not least
because they tend to diverge: I would never remember where all the
others are, so if say editing the comments, I'd not do them all the
same).)
Post by Penny
Post by Mike Ruddock
I just want to be able to print the
pictures out in a range of sizes.
IV will let you pick size and position on the page (and optionally will
also print the comments, and/or the filename, with or without path. And
other parameters if you want [e. g. size, date of taking]).
Post by Penny
That would be down to the selections made in the printer dialogue and the
capabilities of your printer.
Well, IV will do size and position; quality is indeed a function of what
you do when printing.
Post by Penny
Simplest solution, put the files on a stick and take it to Boots :)
(-: IV will also print out all the pictures in a folder, several to a
page (and you can play with the sizes/number of rows and columns), via
its thumbnail and contact sheet facilities.

(It _does_ also have the histogram feature you said you don't need, but
of course you don't have to use it; I forget where it is, though I think
it is one of the toolbar buttons. Though the toolbar is configurable
anyway.)
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Penny
2017-05-08 21:09:41 UTC
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(-: IV will also print out all the pictures in a folder, several to a
page (and you can play with the sizes/number of rows and columns), via
its thumbnail and contact sheet facilities.
I'd forgotten, I've used it in the past to produce simple web pages of
photos - a sort of thumbnail 'contact sheet' which clicks through to a
larger image http://www.labyrinths.plus.com/fish/

It's a very clever little program if you take the time to explore.
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Marjorie
2017-05-15 10:36:44 UTC
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Post by Mike Ruddock
Can anyone point me at some software to enable me to catalogue, edit and
print out my digital photographs.
Cataloguing? No
I use Irfanview for most things http://www.irfanview.com/ it's small but
pretty comprehensive, the only limitations are a lack of 'layers' and fancy
selection tools.
I was going to say the same: IrfanView plus Windows Explorer (to put
them into folders and subfolders).
I also like using it to edit embedded text: I then C when viewing one.
That has the advantage over other methods that the text actually becomes
part of the file, so doesn't get separated from it, however often you
move it (it even survives emailing).
I think the main thing to decide is, do you want to create "albums"
where the same picture may appear in more than one album? Things like
"dog pictures" and "family pictures", where there might be an image of a
family with their dog that you'd want to be in both "albums". If you
_do_ want to do this, there's no alternative but to use one of the fancy
cataloguing utilities. I don't like those because they basically compile
lists of the files in question - which lists then break if you move a
file. But if you want this ("tagging", or the same thing by another
name), then you have no option. (Well, you could I suppose put multiple
copies of the images in the relevant folders; disc space is cheap these
days - but I have a strong dislike of duplicates of any sort (not least
because they tend to diverge: I would never remember where all the
others are, so if say editing the comments, I'd not do them all the same).)
Post by Penny
Post by Mike Ruddock
I just want to be able to print the
pictures out in a range of sizes.
IV will let you pick size and position on the page (and optionally will
also print the comments, and/or the filename, with or without path. And
other parameters if you want [e. g. size, date of taking]).
Post by Penny
That would be down to the selections made in the printer dialogue and the
capabilities of your printer.
Well, IV will do size and position; quality is indeed a function of what
you do when printing.
Post by Penny
Simplest solution, put the files on a stick and take it to Boots :)
(-: IV will also print out all the pictures in a folder, several to a
page (and you can play with the sizes/number of rows and columns), via
its thumbnail and contact sheet facilities.
(It _does_ also have the histogram feature you said you don't need, but
of course you don't have to use it; I forget where it is, though I think
it is one of the toolbar buttons. Though the toolbar is configurable
anyway.)
I am pleased to see these recommendations for Irfanview, as I have just
installed it. This is because the Photos app in Win 10 has once again
stopped working. It did this once before, and was out of action for some
months, and then suddenly appeared again after a Windows update. I can
see on the internet that lots of other people are having the same
problem, and suggesting very complicated fixes, but bypasing Photos and
using Irfanview sounds like the best solution.
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BrritSki
2017-05-15 10:54:37 UTC
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I am pleased to see these recommendations for Irfanview, as I have just
installed it. This is because the Photos app in Win 10 has once again
stopped working. It did this once before, and was out of action for some
months, and then suddenly appeared again after a Windows update. I can
see on the internet that lots of other people are having the same
problem, and suggesting very complicated fixes, but bypasing Photos and
using Irfanview sounds like the best solution.
I am not a user of Photos app or Irfan View. On Win10 I was using the
built-in app for the small amount of editing I do (mainly cropping and
rotating, very rarely do I adjust brightness or other settings), but now
that my Win10 laptop is away for repair I am using Picturetrail for the
the basic editing functions.
<https://www.picturetrail.com/webpages/editor/product.shtml>

I must put in a word for Jim Easterbrook's Photini software though which
I use when creating albums in either Facebook or Flickr. No image
editing capability, but lets you change names and add descriptions very
weasily (TWATBILI) as well as add other tags before uploading.

Very smooth and professional as you'd expect from Jim :)
Mike
2017-05-15 10:56:34 UTC
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I am pleased to see these recommendations for Irfanview, as I have just
installed it. This is because the Photos app in Win 10 has once again
stopped working. It did this once before, and was out of action for some
months, and then suddenly appeared again after a Windows update. I can
see on the internet that lots of other people are having the same
problem, and suggesting very complicated fixes, but bypasing Photos and
using Irfanview sounds like the best solution.
I am not a user of Photos app or Irfan View. On Win10 I was using the
built-in app for the small amount of editing I do (mainly cropping and
rotating, very rarely do I adjust brightness or other settings), but now
that my Win10 laptop is away for repair I am using Picturetrail for the
the basic editing functions.
<https://www.picturetrail.com/webpages/editor/product.shtml>
I must put in a word for Jim Easterbrook's Photini software though which
I use when creating albums in either Facebook or Flickr. No image
editing capability, but lets you change names and add descriptions very
weasily (TWATBILI) as well as add other tags before uploading.
Very smooth and professional as you'd expect from Jim :)
And stoatily useable?
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Chris McMillan
2017-05-09 10:40:57 UTC
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Post by Mike Ruddock
Can anyone point me at some software to enable me to catalogue, edit and
print out my digital photographs.
Cataloguing? No
I use Irfanview for most things http://www.irfanview.com/ it's small but
pretty comprehensive, the only limitations are a lack of 'layers' and fancy
selection tools.
Post by Mike Ruddock
I just want to be able to print the
pictures out in a range of sizes.
That would be down to the selections made in the printer dialogue and the
capabilities of your printer.
Simplest solution, put the files on a stick and take it to Boots :)
And ask the staff to do the computery sales part. The sales screens are
mega fast.

Sincerely Chris
Serena Blanchflower
2017-05-08 18:43:26 UTC
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Post by Mike Ruddock
Can anyone point me at some software to enable me to catalogue, edit and
print out my digital photographs.
I don't need any of those very complex things which tell me the range of
wavelengths present in the picture. I just want to be able to print the
pictures out in a range of sizes.
Windows Photo Gallery might be a good option. I don't, generaly, use it
for printing but I think it allows you to print in a range of sizes.

I use it a lot for cataloguing pictures and doing some basic editing
(things like cropping, straightening, or adjusting the colour balance).
It wouldn't be right for you if you want a full picture editor though.
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Derek Turner
2017-07-04 16:14:00 UTC
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Can anyone point me at some software to enable me to catalogue, edit and
print out my digital photographs.
I don't need any of those very complex things which tell me the range of
wavelengths present in the picture. I just want to be able to print the
pictures out in a range of sizes.
Mike Ruddock
On a windows platform? (You don't say) Lightroom by a country mile.
Brilliant cataloguing, cropping, straightening, exposure /contrast
adjustment and all without altering the original image.
Mike Ruddock
2017-07-04 18:27:51 UTC
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Post by Mike Ruddock
Can anyone point me at some software to enable me to catalogue, edit
and print out my digital photographs.
I don't need any of those very complex things which tell me the range
of wavelengths present in the picture. I just want to be able to print
the pictures out in a range of sizes.
Mike Ruddock
On a windows platform? (You don't say) Lightroom by a country mile.
Brilliant cataloguing, cropping, straightening, exposure /contrast
adjustment and all without altering the original image.
I'll give it a go. Thanks.

BTW: where have you been lately?


Mike Ruddock
BrritSki
2017-07-04 19:34:48 UTC
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Can anyone point me at some software to enable me to catalogue, edit
and print out my digital photographs.
I don't need any of those very complex things which tell me the range
of wavelengths present in the picture. I just want to be able to print
the pictures out in a range of sizes.
Mike Ruddock
On a windows platform? (You don't say) Lightroom by a country mile.
Brilliant cataloguing, cropping, straightening, exposure /contrast
adjustment and all without altering the original image.
I'll give it a go. Thanks.
BTW: where have you been lately?
Banged up in a Linux prison ;)
Sam Plusnet
2017-07-16 21:13:05 UTC
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Can anyone point me at some software to enable me to catalogue, edit
and print out my digital photographs.
I don't need any of those very complex things which tell me the range
of wavelengths present in the picture. I just want to be able to print
the pictures out in a range of sizes.
Mike Ruddock
On a windows platform? (You don't say) Lightroom by a country mile.
Brilliant cataloguing, cropping, straightening, exposure /contrast
adjustment and all without altering the original image.
I'll give it a go. Thanks.
BTW: where have you been lately?
Banged up in a Linux prison ;)
That's just a collection of boxen with no windows.
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BrritSki
2017-07-17 09:29:51 UTC
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Can anyone point me at some software to enable me to catalogue, edit
and print out my digital photographs.
I don't need any of those very complex things which tell me the range
of wavelengths present in the picture. I just want to be able to print
the pictures out in a range of sizes.
Mike Ruddock
On a windows platform? (You don't say) Lightroom by a country mile.
Brilliant cataloguing, cropping, straightening, exposure /contrast
adjustment and all without altering the original image.
I'll give it a go. Thanks.
BTW: where have you been lately?
Banged up in a Linux prison ;)
That's just a collection of boxen with no windows.
I was surprised my feed line took so long to get a catch :)
Sam Plusnet
2017-07-20 20:40:16 UTC
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Can anyone point me at some software to enable me to catalogue, edit
and print out my digital photographs.
I don't need any of those very complex things which tell me the range
of wavelengths present in the picture. I just want to be able to print
the pictures out in a range of sizes.
Mike Ruddock
On a windows platform? (You don't say) Lightroom by a country mile.
Brilliant cataloguing, cropping, straightening, exposure /contrast
adjustment and all without altering the original image.
I'll give it a go. Thanks.
BTW: where have you been lately?
Banged up in a Linux prison ;)
That's just a collection of boxen with no windows.
I was surprised my feed line took so long to get a catch :)
Sorry old man, I've been tied up El Swear.
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2017-07-21 09:50:13 UTC
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Can anyone point me at some software to enable me to catalogue, edit
and print out my digital photographs.
I don't need any of those very complex things which tell me the range
of wavelengths present in the picture. I just want to be able to print
the pictures out in a range of sizes.
Mike Ruddock
On a windows platform? (You don't say) Lightroom by a country mile.
Brilliant cataloguing, cropping, straightening, exposure /contrast
adjustment and all without altering the original image.
I'll give it a go. Thanks.
BTW: where have you been lately?
Banged up in a Linux prison ;)
That's just a collection of boxen with no windows.
I was surprised my feed line took so long to get a catch :)
Sorry old man, I've been tied up El Swear.
I didn't know you were into that sort of thing.
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2017-07-21 18:21:58 UTC
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Sorry old man, I've been tied up El Swear.
I didn't know you were into that sort of thing.
Is that any connection to the sign you see in M&S and similar shops: MEN
SWEAR UPSTAIRS? (Sadly, apparently in some of these places even CHILDREN
SWEAR.)
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2017-07-05 12:45:53 UTC
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Can anyone point me at some software to enable me to catalogue, edit
and print out my digital photographs.
I don't need any of those very complex things which tell me the range
of wavelengths present in the picture. I just want to be able to print
the pictures out in a range of sizes.
Mike Ruddock
On a windows platform? (You don't say) Lightroom by a country mile.
Brilliant cataloguing, cropping, straightening, exposure /contrast
adjustment and all without altering the original image.
I'll give it a go. Thanks.
Lightroom is the answer for cataloguing, for certain. It's not
particuarly cheap, but it's worth the cost IMO.
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2017-07-04 18:56:22 UTC
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I was going to say "didn't we have this discussion a while ago", then I
realised that it can't have been August - Derek, are you in USA? - so it
_was_ back in May.
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Post by Mike Ruddock
Can anyone point me at some software to enable me to catalogue, edit
and print out my digital photographs.
I don't need any of those very complex things which tell me the
range of wavelengths present in the picture. I just want to be able
to print the pictures out in a range of sizes.
Mike Ruddock
On a windows platform? (You don't say) Lightroom by a country mile.
Brilliant cataloguing, cropping, straightening, exposure /contrast
adjustment and all without altering the original image.
IrfanView is small, free, and will do cropping, straightening,
brightness/colour/contrast adjustment, and lots else - though _not_
cataloguing. It's small and fast though, even on low-power machines.
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