On Thu, 10 May 2018 13:57:43 +0100, krw <***@whitnet.uk> wrote:
>On 09/05/2018 16:08, Mike wrote; my response is lower down:
>> J. P. Gilliver (John) <G6JPGfirstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
>>> In message <NCCIC.email@example.com>, Mike
>>> <***@ntlworld.com> writes:
>>>> But Olwen, it got a car charger!
>>> Although I don't really like Olwen, I really enjoyed her telling Pat to
>>> stop trying to organise her life. I fear it'll have gone in one ear and
>>> out the other though.
>> I think Olwen wants to live her own life and this does not entail any
>> help/interference from Pat in any form, physical, financial or moral; so
>> Pat Butt Out!
>Last night we were dining in a restaurant in Southampton Street in
>London. Across the road a reasonably cleanly dressed lady of
>indeterminate age (between 50 and 70 I would guess) settled down to read
>the paper and had a shopping trolley adjacent. From restaurant staff we
>were advised that she has been there regularly (and presumably
>throughout the night) since September. During the hour we watched a
>couple of other male street residents spoke to her. One brought a
>collection of flattened cardboard boxes (no doubt from shops in adjacent
>Covent Garden) and he put one down to sit on (she had some thick
>cushions of some description). This one is also a regular we gather.
>Both were cleaner / tidier than some of the others.
>More generally there seem to be more street residents in London than was
>the case, so I can only assume that under Boris support for such people
>has been withdrawn - a few years ago they were almost non-existent.
Boris isn't mayor now, is he? Hasn't been for a while.
>My wife would have loved to know why she was there - not to help but
>more to understand.
>We have had back story from Olwen - and to my mind it sounded as though
>she was responsible for her own downfall and can neither use her
>undoubted intelligence to work out when to control her outpourings or to
>gracefully accept assistance when provided. So is this really some form
>of mental illness or simply an unwillingness to conform to societal
>norms (and perhaps those two descriptions are simply different names for
>the same problem?)?
She seemed to me to be a rather unpleasant person. It is ok to want
to be independent, but if you accept help then it should be a little
more gracefully and she should not have gone out of her way to upset
Helen when Helen had the inspector there. Helen's history is pretty
well known and she is doing a good job and building a life and funding
it for her children. Olwen is a bitch.