Krusty's walk

If it is called off due to bad weather.... will it be aborted?

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Toodle Pip

Penny

2017-05-05 19:04:18 UTC

On Fri, 05 May 2017 18:26:56 GMT, Mike <***@ntlworld.com> scrawled
in the dust...

Post by Mike
If it is called off due to bad weather.... will it be aborted?

I thought, if they're starting that late they'll miss the start - or are
the birds here just early risers?

--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959

carolet

2017-05-06 12:47:07 UTC

Post by Penny
in the dust...

Post by Mike
If it is called off due to bad weather.... will it be aborted?

I thought, if they're starting that late they'll miss the start - or are
the birds here just early risers?

I didn't catch what Helen and Kirsty were saying just before they
decided to organise a dawn chorus walk and, for once, I can't be
bothered to listen again, though if I happen to catch that part of the
omnibus, I shall listen carefully.

I suspect that they were commenting on the fact that tomorrow is
International Dawn Chorus Day. I'm sure that you all know that
"International Dawn Chorus Day is always the first Sunday of May and is
celebrated worldwide", but it is something that I only discovered
yesterday, when I first noticed that there were a couple of Dawn Chorus
Walks on near here, and then came to this -
https://www.songbird-survival.org.uk/dawnchorusday.html

One of the walks that I had noticed started at 4am the other at 5am.

--
CaroleT

Peter Percival

2017-05-06 12:58:50 UTC

Post by carolet

Post by Penny
scrawled in the dust...

Post by Mike
If it is called off due to bad weather.... will it be aborted?

I thought, if they're starting that late they'll miss the start -
or are the birds here just early risers?

I didn't catch what Helen and Kirsty were saying just before they
decided to organise a dawn chorus walk and, for once, I can't be
bothered to listen again, though if I happen to catch that part of
the omnibus, I shall listen carefully.
I suspect that they were commenting on the fact that tomorrow is
International Dawn Chorus Day. I'm sure that you all know that
"International Dawn Chorus Day is always the first Sunday of May and
is celebrated worldwide", but it is something that I only discovered
yesterday, when I first noticed that there were a couple of Dawn
Chorus Walks on near here, and then came to this -
https://www.songbird-survival.org.uk/dawnchorusday.html
One of the walks that I had noticed started at 4am the other at 5am.

I feel sorry for the birds having to get up at such an early hour just
to provide entertainment for humans.

--
Do, as a concession to my poor wits, Lord Darlington, just explain
to me what you really mean.
I think I had better not, Duchess. Nowadays to be intelligible is
to be found out. -- Oscar Wilde, Lady Windermere's Fan

Chris McMillan

2017-05-06 15:30:08 UTC

Post by Peter Percival

Post by carolet

Post by Penny
scrawled in the dust...

Post by Mike
If it is called off due to bad weather.... will it be aborted?

I thought, if they're starting that late they'll miss the start -
or are the birds here just early risers?

I didn't catch what Helen and Kirsty were saying just before they
decided to organise a dawn chorus walk and, for once, I can't be
bothered to listen again, though if I happen to catch that part of
the omnibus, I shall listen carefully.
I suspect that they were commenting on the fact that tomorrow is
International Dawn Chorus Day. I'm sure that you all know that
"International Dawn Chorus Day is always the first Sunday of May and
is celebrated worldwide", but it is something that I only discovered
yesterday, when I first noticed that there were a couple of Dawn
Chorus Walks on near here, and then came to this -
https://www.songbird-survival.org.uk/dawnchorusday.html
One of the walks that I had noticed started at 4am the other at 5am.

I feel sorry for the birds having to get up at such an early hour just
to provide entertainment for humans.

I don't mind the birds, I do object to demented wood pigeons being so loud
though.

Sincerely Chris

Penny

2017-05-06 13:46:20 UTC

On Sat, 6 May 2017 13:47:07 +0100, carolet <***@btinternet.com>
scrawled in the dust...

Post by carolet
I suspect that they were commenting on the fact that tomorrow is
International Dawn Chorus Day. I'm sure that you all know that
"International Dawn Chorus Day is always the first Sunday of May and is
celebrated worldwide", but it is something that I only discovered
yesterday, when I first noticed that there were a couple of Dawn Chorus
Walks on near here, and then came to this -
https://www.songbird-survival.org.uk/dawnchorusday.html
One of the walks that I had noticed started at 4am the other at 5am.

They start closer to 4am in these parts - why do I keep waking around 4am?

--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959

Mike

2017-05-06 14:19:12 UTC

Post by Penny
They start closer to 4am in these parts - why do I keep waking around 4am?

Are you bright and chirpy at that time?

--
Toodle Pip

steveski

2017-05-06 14:56:00 UTC

Post by Penny
They start closer to 4am in these parts - why do I keep waking around 4am?

Are you bright and chirpy at that time?

Do you get the worm?

--
Steveski

Btms

2017-05-06 15:38:01 UTC

Post by Penny
scrawled in the dust...

They start closer to 4am in these parts - why do I keep waking around 4am?

Birds wake you up?

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LFS

2017-05-06 16:22:26 UTC

Post by Penny
scrawled in the dust...

They start closer to 4am in these parts - why do I keep waking around 4am?

Birds wake you up?

In our house the birds wake the cat up and he wakes us up...

--
Laura (emulate St George for email)

Chris McMillan

2017-05-07 15:41:27 UTC

Post by Penny
scrawled in the dust...

They start closer to 4am in these parts - why do I keep waking around 4am?

Birds wake you up?

In our house the birds wake the cat up and he wakes us up...

LOL.

Sincerely Chris

Penny

2017-05-06 17:50:10 UTC

On Sat, 6 May 2017 15:38:01 -0000 (UTC), Btms <***@thetames.me.uk>
scrawled in the dust...

Post by Penny
scrawled in the dust...

Post by carolet
https://www.songbird-survival.org.uk/dawnchorusday.html
One of the walks that I had noticed started at 4am the other at 5am.

They start closer to 4am in these parts - why do I keep waking around 4am?

Birds wake you up?

No, they're just tuning up at that point. It's probably my own coughing
which has woken me - the hay fever started early this year :(
I have no trouble dropping off again.

--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959

Vicky

2017-05-06 16:51:34 UTC

Post by Penny
scrawled in the dust...

They start closer to 4am in these parts - why do I keep waking around 4am?

There is an article in the RT about getting a good night's sleep. :)

--
Vicky

Chris McMillan

2017-05-06 15:30:07 UTC

Post by carolet

Post by Penny
in the dust...

Post by Mike
If it is called off due to bad weather.... will it be aborted?

I thought, if they're starting that late they'll miss the start - or are
the birds here just early risers?

I didn't catch what Helen and Kirsty were saying just before they
decided to organise a dawn chorus walk and, for once, I can't be
bothered to listen again, though if I happen to catch that part of the
omnibus, I shall listen carefully.
I suspect that they were commenting on the fact that tomorrow is
International Dawn Chorus Day. I'm sure that you all know that
"International Dawn Chorus Day is always the first Sunday of May and is
celebrated worldwide", but it is something that I only discovered
yesterday, when I first noticed that there were a couple of Dawn Chorus
Walks on near here, and then came to this -
https://www.songbird-survival.org.uk/dawnchorusday.html
One of the walks that I had noticed started at 4am the other at 5am.

R4 is celebrating with the EBU I presume, tomorrow 4am to 7am birdsong
across Yurp with Brett Westwood

Sincerely Chris

Jenny M Benson

2017-05-12 13:20:04 UTC

One of the many delights of the holiday I have just had in the New
Forest was being woken by the dawn chorus through the open window every
morning. One morning I was awake before it started and as a blackbird
opened with the first notes, I looked at the time - 4:35.

The really frustrating thing was that I am *hopeless* and recognizing
birdsong and I just wished I could know who I was hearing. Definitely
blackbirds and I think a thrush but other than that I hadn't a clue.

--
Jenny M Benson

Vicky

2017-05-12 17:42:38 UTC

On Fri, 12 May 2017 14:20:04 +0100, Jenny M Benson

One of the many delights of the holiday I have just had in the New
Forest was being woken by the dawn chorus through the open window every
morning. One morning I was awake before it started and as a blackbird
opened with the first notes, I looked at the time - 4:35.
The really frustrating thing was that I am *hopeless* and recognizing
birdsong and I just wished I could know who I was hearing. Definitely
blackbirds and I think a thrush but other than that I hadn't a clue.

I got my new hearing-aids on Tuesday. They seem fine except that I
keep pushing them a little to make sure they are in, like pushing your
glasses back up from your nose. I was told to wear them short periods
at first as it might be hard to get used to them but they are not a
bother as I forget they are in. I have a couple of times said I need
to put them in and they already were. #OAPmoment

I particularly noticed the bird song this morning. There are more
different kinds than I'd noticed before. There was some loud song
coming from two or three very small birds. I didn't think sparrows
would make that much noise but wasn't wearing glasses (nothing works,
teeth don't either) and didn't see any red so maybe not robins,
although I might not have seen red if there was some.

Other even louder and deeper song was added a little later. I'd heard
that one pre-hearing-aids and thought it was blackbirds, not thinking
a smaller bird could get that volume. Then we have magpies, but that
is not tuneful. More clatter.And pigeons.

The hearing aids were configured to my needs by connecting them, while
I wore them, to a computer. I was very impressed by the technology.
They are apprently one of the latest kinds, free on the NHS and I get
free batteries too! I did have quite a wait to be assessed and then
fitted but the service was very good and not rushed. I hope they
don't decide this is something we should pay for, or hive it off to
private providers.

--
Vicky

LFS

2017-05-13 09:19:19 UTC

Post by Vicky
On Fri, 12 May 2017 14:20:04 +0100, Jenny M Benson

Post by Jenny M Benson
The really frustrating thing was that I am *hopeless* and recognizing
birdsong and I just wished I could know who I was hearing. Definitely
blackbirds and I think a thrush but other than that I hadn't a clue.

I got my new hearing-aids on Tuesday. They seem fine except that I
keep pushing them a little to make sure they are in, like pushing your
glasses back up from your nose. I was told to wear them short periods
at first as it might be hard to get used to them but they are not a
bother as I forget they are in. I have a couple of times said I need
to put them in and they already were. #OAPmoment
I particularly noticed the bird song this morning. There are more
different kinds than I'd noticed before. There was some loud song
coming from two or three very small birds. I didn't think sparrows
would make that much noise but wasn't wearing glasses (nothing works,
teeth don't either) and didn't see any red so maybe not robins,
although I might not have seen red if there was some.
Other even louder and deeper song was added a little later. I'd heard
that one pre-hearing-aids and thought it was blackbirds, not thinking
a smaller bird could get that volume. Then we have magpies, but that
is not tuneful. More clatter.And pigeons.
The hearing aids were configured to my needs by connecting them, while
I wore them, to a computer. I was very impressed by the technology.
They are apprently one of the latest kinds, free on the NHS and I get
free batteries too! I did have quite a wait to be assessed and then
fitted but the service was very good and not rushed. I hope they
don't decide this is something we should pay for, or hive it off to
private providers.

Good to know they work for you. I found the NHS provision here was very
poor and when I went in to return the aid they had made for me that
didn't help, and to tell them I'd gone to a private provider, the
audiologist asked to see what I'd got. She then expressed surprise that
they could work with such small tubes, which suggested that she was not
very clued up about modern technology...

The cause and nature of my deafness mean that hearing aids can't do
everything I'd really like but I do find it very helpful to be able to
switch into the loop in public places like theatres.

--
Laura (emulate St George for email)

Jenny M Benson

2017-05-13 09:58:16 UTC

Post by LFS
Good to know they work for you. I found the NHS provision here was very
poor and when I went in to return the aid they had made for me that
didn't help, and to tell them I'd gone to a private provider, the
audiologist asked to see what I'd got. She then expressed surprise that
they could work with such small tubes, which suggested that she was not
very clued up about modern technology...
The cause and nature of my deafness mean that hearing aids can't do
everything I'd really like but I do find it very helpful to be able to
switch into the loop in public places like theatres.

My late broil constantly complained that his hearing aids (NHS) were no
use at all and usually took them out when he wanted to have a
conversation with anyone! He continued to have the television turned up
to almost painful (for the rest of us) sound levels until my sister had
a loop system installed in their living room.

--
Jenny M Benson

Vicky

2017-05-13 10:39:13 UTC

On Sat, 13 May 2017 10:58:16 +0100, Jenny M Benson

I am turning the sound on the tv down a bit but we watched Jamestown
last night and B stopped it to get the subtitles, and I was missing
bits too. The sound just wasn't that good. The programme wasn't bad
though so we will go for episode 2. Tonight probably the first
American Gods. I've seen some bad reviews of that and neither of us
liked the book. Too long.

We liked the third Broadchurch though, unlike the second.

--
Vicky

LFS

2017-05-13 14:55:02 UTC

Post by Vicky
On Sat, 13 May 2017 10:58:16 +0100, Jenny M Benson

I am turning the sound on the tv down a bit but we watched Jamestown
last night and B stopped it to get the subtitles, and I was missing
bits too. The sound just wasn't that good. The programme wasn't bad
though so we will go for episode 2. Tonight probably the first
American Gods. I've seen some bad reviews of that and neither of us
liked the book. Too long.
We liked the third Broadchurch though, unlike the second.

Some programmes are very badly recorded. I have the subtitles on a lot
but can't get them on the ITV catchup.

I loved American Gods when I read it so I don't want to see the
adaptation. Lovejoy is *not* my idea of Mr Wednesday.

--
Laura (emulate St George for email)

Sally Thompson

2017-05-13 18:20:10 UTC

Post by LFS
Some programmes are very badly recorded. I have the subtitles on a lot
but can't get them on the ITV catchup.

Are you sure? They've changed it and there's now an "S" button (I think top
right). I've used it so know I'm not imagining it!

--
Sally in Shropshire, UK

LFS

2017-05-14 10:45:36 UTC

Post by LFS
Some programmes are very badly recorded. I have the subtitles on a lot
but can't get them on the ITV catchup.

Are you sure? They've changed it and there's now an "S" button (I think top
right). I've used it so know I'm not imagining it!

I can see it on the iPad but not on our TV, which has the apps built in.
Same for All4. I shall have to investigate more closely.

--
Laura (emulate St George for email)

Sally Thompson

2017-05-14 14:23:50 UTC

Post by LFS
Some programmes are very badly recorded. I have the subtitles on a lot
but can't get them on the ITV catchup.

Are you sure? They've changed it and there's now an "S" button (I think top
right). I've used it so know I'm not imagining it!

I can see it on the iPad but not on our TV, which has the apps built in.
Same for All4. I shall have to investigate more closely.

Okay, I only watch on the iPad so hadn't realised:-(

--
Sally in Shropshire, UK

krw

2017-05-15 10:20:11 UTC

Post by LFS
Some programmes are very badly recorded. I have the subtitles on a lot
but can't get them on the ITV catchup.

Are you sure? They've changed it and there's now an "S" button (I think top
right). I've used it so know I'm not imagining it!

On ITV Hub there is a subtitles button bottom right of the screen. Use
it regularly.

--
Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
tiny.cc/KRWpics

LFS

2017-05-15 15:33:09 UTC

Post by LFS
Some programmes are very badly recorded. I have the subtitles on a lot
but can't get them on the ITV catchup.

Are you sure? They've changed it and there's now an "S" button (I think top
right). I've used it so know I'm not imagining it!

On ITV Hub there is a subtitles button bottom right of the screen. Use
it regularly.

Doesn't show on our TV, though.

--
Laura (emulate St George for email)

krw

2017-05-15 15:35:59 UTC

Post by LFS
Some programmes are very badly recorded. I have the subtitles on a lot
but can't get them on the ITV catchup.

Are you sure? They've changed it and there's now an "S" button (I think top
right). I've used it so know I'm not imagining it!

On ITV Hub there is a subtitles button bottom right of the screen. Use
it regularly.

Doesn't show on our TV, though.

Silly question - have you tried the tv remote to turn on the subtitles?

--
Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
tiny.cc/KRWpics

LFS

2017-05-15 16:05:43 UTC

Post by LFS
Some programmes are very badly recorded. I have the subtitles on a lot
but can't get them on the ITV catchup.

Are you sure? They've changed it and there's now an "S" button (I think top
right). I've used it so know I'm not imagining it!

On ITV Hub there is a subtitles button bottom right of the screen. Use
it regularly.

Doesn't show on our TV, though.

Silly question - have you tried the tv remote to turn on the subtitles?

Yes. The TV has the apps built in but they are not the same as the
versions I get on the Mac or iPad. The TV remote also has a Netflix
button but the search function is not at all like the one I can use on
the iPad. Puzzling.

--
Laura (emulate St George for email)

BrritSki

2017-05-15 17:32:17 UTC

Post by LFS
Some programmes are very badly recorded. I have the subtitles on a lot
but can't get them on the ITV catchup.

Are you sure? They've changed it and there's now an "S" button (I think top
right). I've used it so know I'm not imagining it!

On ITV Hub there is a subtitles button bottom right of the screen. Use
it regularly.

Doesn't show on our TV, though.

Silly question - have you tried the tv remote to turn on the subtitles?

Yes. The TV has the apps built in....

I would guess they need an update, but no idea how you would do it.
Have you had a look thru the menus ?

LFS

2017-05-16 09:41:58 UTC

Post by BrritSki

Post by LFS
Some programmes are very badly recorded. I have the subtitles on a lot
but can't get them on the ITV catchup.

Are you sure? They've changed it and there's now an "S" button (I think top
right). I've used it so know I'm not imagining it!

On ITV Hub there is a subtitles button bottom right of the screen.
Use
it regularly.

Doesn't show on our TV, though.

Silly question - have you tried the tv remote to turn on the subtitles?

Yes. The TV has the apps built in....

I would guess they need an update, but no idea how you would do it.
Have you had a look thru the menus ?

Not yet, too busy supervising and making coffee for men paving our drive
this week.

--
Laura (emulate St George for email)

Fenny

2017-05-15 20:43:41 UTC

Post by LFS
Yes. The TV has the apps built in but they are not the same as the
versions I get on the Mac or iPad. The TV remote also has a Netflix
button but the search function is not at all like the one I can use on
the iPad. Puzzling.

Not really. The version of the software that is licenced to TV
manufacturers is not always the same as the mobile version. I have
Amazon TV built in to my telly, but it's a completely different
interface than with the Fire Stick. It conforms to the Sony format
and is nowhere near as nice as the version on the Fire Stick. Nor is
it updated. The Fire Stick UI has recently changed. The Sony version
is still horrible!

I used to have Blinkbox on my LG DVD player. Again, a different
interface than the PC version. Then, for some reason, LG stopped
supporting it. Probably something to do with licence fees for
supporting updates. So they just removed it.

--
Fenny

Vicky

2017-05-13 20:45:11 UTC

Post by Vicky
On Sat, 13 May 2017 10:58:16 +0100, Jenny M Benson
I am turning the sound on the tv down a bit but we watched Jamestown
last night and B stopped it to get the subtitles, and I was missing
bits too. The sound just wasn't that good. The programme wasn't bad
though so we will go for episode 2. Tonight probably the first
American Gods. I've seen some bad reviews of that and neither of us
liked the book. Too long.
We liked the third Broadchurch though, unlike the second.

Some programmes are very badly recorded. I have the subtitles on a lot
but can't get them on the ITV catchup.
I loved American Gods when I read it so I don't want to see the
adaptation. Lovejoy is *not* my idea of Mr Wednesday.

Because we both thought the book long and boring I wasn't expecting
much but we both enjoyed it. Lovejoy was fine. I admit though I had
forgotten quite a bit of the story and had no mental image of the
characters. Neither of us expected the main one to be black though.
I thought him older and more weather-beaten. B thinks they got a good
deal on fake blood.

--
Vicky

Fenny

2017-05-13 21:02:02 UTC

Post by Vicky
B thinks they got a good
deal on fake blood.

Probably left over from this year's Game of Thrones, seeing as how
it's 30% shorter than usual.

--
Fenny

BrritSki

2017-05-14 06:44:16 UTC

Post by Vicky
B thinks they got a good
deal on fake blood.

Probably left over from this year's Game of Thrones, seeing as how
it's 30% shorter than usual.

Ah, Toby's problem.... caused by lack of blood one assumes.

Fenny

2017-05-14 12:09:36 UTC

On Sun, 14 May 2017 08:44:16 +0200, BrritSki

Post by BrritSki

Post by Vicky
B thinks they got a good
deal on fake blood.

Probably left over from this year's Game of Thrones, seeing as how
it's 30% shorter than usual.

Ah, Toby's problem.... caused by lack of blood one assumes.

Unless he's been staying with Ramsey Bolton, in which case he could be
suffering from a difference affliction.

--
Fenny

Nick Odell

2017-05-14 12:33:50 UTC

On Sat, 13 May 2017 22:02:02 +0100, Fenny

Post by Vicky
B thinks they got a good
deal on fake blood.

Probably left over from this year's Game of Thrones, seeing as how
it's 30% shorter than usual.

Wot? More dwarfs?

Nick

Fenny

2017-05-14 12:57:32 UTC

On Sun, 14 May 2017 13:33:50 +0100, Nick Odell

Post by Nick Odell
On Sat, 13 May 2017 22:02:02 +0100, Fenny

Post by Vicky
B thinks they got a good
deal on fake blood.

Probably left over from this year's Game of Thrones, seeing as how
it's 30% shorter than usual.

Wot? More dwarfs?

More beheadings.

--
Fenny

Sam Plusnet

2017-05-14 23:59:39 UTC

Post by Fenny
On Sun, 14 May 2017 13:33:50 +0100, Nick Odell

Post by Nick Odell
On Sat, 13 May 2017 22:02:02 +0100, Fenny

Post by Vicky
B thinks they got a good
deal on fake blood.

Probably left over from this year's Game of Thrones, seeing as how
it's 30% shorter than usual.

Wot? More dwarfs?

More beheadings.

Most of the cast appear topless?

--
Sam Plusnet

Fenny

2017-05-15 20:44:18 UTC

Post by Sam Plusnet

Post by Fenny
On Sun, 14 May 2017 13:33:50 +0100, Nick Odell

Post by Nick Odell
On Sat, 13 May 2017 22:02:02 +0100, Fenny

Post by Vicky
B thinks they got a good
deal on fake blood.

Probably left over from this year's Game of Thrones, seeing as how
it's 30% shorter than usual.

Wot? More dwarfs?

More beheadings.

Most of the cast appear topless?

More Unsullied?

--
Fenny

Chris J Dixon

2017-05-14 09:19:28 UTC

Post by Vicky
We liked the third Broadchurch though, unlike the second.

Indeed! I would have given up on the second season, but BOFE
wanted to watch. The final one was much better.

Chris

--
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'48/33 M B+ G++ A L(-) I S-- CH0(--)(p) Ar- T+ H0 ?Q
***@cdixon.me.uk
Plant amazing Acers.

krw

2017-05-15 10:19:12 UTC

Post by Vicky
We liked the third Broadchurch though, unlike the second.

As did we, although the red herrings were signposted a little too obviously.

--
Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
tiny.cc/KRWpics

Fenny

2017-05-13 12:45:02 UTC

On Sat, 13 May 2017 10:58:16 +0100, Jenny M Benson

Post by Jenny M Benson
He continued to have the television turned up
to almost painful (for the rest of us)

Ma is forever telling me how good her hearing is and claims that she
hears all kinds of things. However, she usually has the telly/radio
turned up to a painful level for me. And when I stay with her, I can
hear the chimes (and cuckoos) of clocks in the flat above, which Ma
says she can't hear. I commented at Christmas that someone had a new
clock and she had no idea what I was talking about.

She's fine with normal conversations, though.

--
Fenny

Penny

2017-05-13 14:31:05 UTC

On Sat, 13 May 2017 13:45:02 +0100, Fenny <***@removethis.onetel.net>
scrawled in the dust...

Post by Fenny
Ma is forever telling me how good her hearing is and claims that she
hears all kinds of things. However, she usually has the telly/radio
turned up to a painful level for me. And when I stay with her, I can
hear the chimes (and cuckoos) of clocks in the flat above, which Ma
says she can't hear. I commented at Christmas that someone had a new
clock and she had no idea what I was talking about.

One tends to lose the top end first. I am only really aware I am losing my
hearing when I stay with my children who can undoubtedly hear things I
can't.

I usually use the TV subtitles at home, more as an aid to understanding
than hearing since so much TV (particularly American stuff) has such lousy
sound quality.

Not sure what happened in the theatre last night. I had no trouble hearing
the first half but struggled a bit towards the end. Maybe it was actor
fatigue rather than my ears - a two hour play at the end of its tour. I
might request headphones next time I go (though I'm not sure they have that
sort of loop here).

--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959

Btms

2017-05-13 16:12:57 UTC

Fenny <***@removethis.onetel.net> wrote:
[]...........

And when I stay with her, I can

Post by Fenny
hear the chimes (and cuckoos) of clocks in the flat above, which Ma
says she can't hear. I commented at Christmas that someone had a new
clock and she had no idea what I was talking about.
She's fine with normal conversations, though.

The people in the flat above probably had a good idea. 😏

--
BTMS - Equine Advisor Extraordinaire.

Mike

2017-05-13 16:39:09 UTC

Post by Btms
[]...........
And when I stay with her, I can

The people in the flat above probably had a good idea. 😏

They may even have chimed in with the conversation...

--
Toodle Pip

LFS

2017-05-13 14:56:33 UTC

Post by LFS
Good to know they work for you. I found the NHS provision here was
very poor and when I went in to return the aid they had made for me
that didn't help, and to tell them I'd gone to a private provider, the
audiologist asked to see what I'd got. She then expressed surprise
that they could work with such small tubes, which suggested that she
was not very clued up about modern technology...
The cause and nature of my deafness mean that hearing aids can't do
everything I'd really like but I do find it very helpful to be able to
switch into the loop in public places like theatres.

I didn't know you could do that. S-i-l lent me a sound bar for the TV
which is supposed to help with speech recognition but didn't. I was
going to experiment with bluetooth headphones but haven't got round to
it yet.

--
Laura (emulate St George for email)

krw

2017-05-15 10:24:02 UTC

I was going to experiment with bluetooth headphones but haven't got
round to it yet.

The problem with headphones is the wofe. I can be trying to listen to
something (in the study) and then I am unable to hear when the wofe
wants to say something important (well what she considers important).

Wear my bluetooth headphones when walking the dog(s). This is OK until
I need to talk to another dog walker.

--
Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
tiny.cc/KRWpics

Fenny

2017-05-15 20:45:35 UTC

Post by krw
The problem with headphones is the wofe. I can be trying to listen to
something (in the study) and then I am unable to hear when the wofe
wants to say something important (well what she considers important).

Don't you have an instant messaging system? One of my friends sends
his kids messages to tell them dinner is on the table and if they
don't get there soon, the cat will have it.

--
Fenny

Btms

2017-05-15 20:54:05 UTC

Don't you have an instant messaging system? One of my friends sends
his kids messages to tell them dinner is on the table and if they
don't get there soon, the cat will have it.

Or as my sister said to bil when he came home yet again worse the wear for
beer: your dinner's in the dog.

--
BTMS - Equine Advisor Extraordinaire.

Jenny M Benson

2017-05-15 21:32:15 UTC

Post by Fenny
Don't you have an instant messaging system? One of my friends sends
his kids messages to tell them dinner is on the table and if they
don't get there soon, the cat will have it.

My Mum had an instant messaging system when we were kids, to get us in
for meals etc. It was a big cow bell my parents bought in Switzerland.
We could hear it from quite a long way away!

--
Jenny M Benson

Penny

2017-05-15 21:44:25 UTC

On Mon, 15 May 2017 22:32:15 +0100, Jenny M Benson <***@hotmail.co.uk>
scrawled in the dust...

Post by Fenny
Don't you have an instant messaging system? One of my friends sends
his kids messages to tell them dinner is on the table and if they
don't get there soon, the cat will have it.

My Mum had an instant messaging system when we were kids, to get us in
for meals etc. It was a big cow bell my parents bought in Switzerland.
We could hear it from quite a long way away!

YANAOU!

--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959

Btms

2017-05-16 06:48:51 UTC

Post by Penny
scrawled in the dust...

Post by Fenny
Don't you have an instant messaging system? One of my friends sends
his kids messages to tell them dinner is on the table and if they
don't get there soon, the cat will have it.

My Mum had an instant messaging system when we were kids, to get us in
for meals etc. It was a big cow bell my parents bought in Switzerland.
We could hear it from quite a long way away!

YANAOU!

I put a cowbell by the front door for the exclusive use of son's friends.
Saved much interruption for me and offered a degree of autonomy to the
boys.

--
BTMS - Equine Advisor Extraordinaire.

Mike

2017-05-16 07:59:53 UTC

Post by Fenny
Don't you have an instant messaging system? One of my friends sends
his kids messages to tell them dinner is on the table and if they
don't get there soon, the cat will have it.

My Mum had an instant messaging system when we were kids, to get us in
for meals etc. It was a big cow bell my parents bought in Switzerland.
We could hear it from quite a long way away!

We had an ex-army field telephone from living/dining room into my brother
and my bedroom; it was used not just for mealtime advice but for requests
to reduce sound levels from brother's audio eqpt.😉 never for me and mine,
I was a good boy....

--
Toodle Pip

Sid Nuncius

2017-05-16 08:20:12 UTC

Post by Mike
We had an ex-army field telephone from living/dining room into my brother
and my bedroom;

Was putting a field telephone into your brother an early form of tagging?

--
Sid (Make sure Matron is away when you reply)

Mike

2017-05-16 10:07:32 UTC

Post by Sid Nuncius

Post by Mike
We had an ex-army field telephone from living/dining room into my brother
and my bedroom;

Was putting a field telephone into your brother an early form of tagging?

Has a familiar ring to it.

--
Toodle Pip

Btms

2017-05-16 09:04:55 UTC

Post by Fenny
Don't you have an instant messaging system? One of my friends sends
his kids messages to tell them dinner is on the table and if they
don't get there soon, the cat will have it.

My Mum had an instant messaging system when we were kids, to get us in
for meals etc. It was a big cow bell my parents bought in Switzerland.
We could hear it from quite a long way away!

But he could hear the phone ring 😜

--
BTMS - Equine Advisor Extraordinaire.

Penny

2017-05-16 09:59:59 UTC

On Tue, 16 May 2017 07:59:53 GMT, Mike <***@ntlworld.com> scrawled
in the dust...

Post by Fenny
Don't you have an instant messaging system? One of my friends sends
his kids messages to tell them dinner is on the table and if they
don't get there soon, the cat will have it.

My Mum had an instant messaging system when we were kids, to get us in
for meals etc. It was a big cow bell my parents bought in Switzerland.
We could hear it from quite a long way away!

We had a bell system in the house I grew up in. My father had used the
wiring to pipe the radio all around the house. It's a wonder to me it never
occurred to him to rig up a microphone too. But then we had the cow bell
system and had moved elsewhere (to a place with ceilings low enough to
thump on) before I reached my teens.

--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959

krw

2017-05-16 10:30:55 UTC

Post by Penny
We had a bell system in the house I grew up in.

I put a bell system when we lived above the shop. Pushes in both
counters, one push for help in shop, two for help on PO counter, three
for absolute panic. (If I remember correctly, it was 50 years ago we
moved there.)

--
Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
tiny.cc/KRWpics

Chris J Dixon

2017-05-16 11:21:03 UTC

Post by krw
I put a bell system when we lived above the shop. Pushes in both
counters, one push for help in shop, two for help on PO counter, three
for absolute panic. (If I remember correctly, it was 50 years ago we
moved there.)

Some years ago the house I lived in had a garage at the bottom of
the garden, with a window facing the house. When I ran power down
the garden, I popped some LV cables into the trench too, so I
could then wire up a pair of bells.

Use of the bells was then supplemented by gestures, some of which
were intelligible. ;-)

Chris

--
Chris J Dixon Nottingham
'48/33 M B+ G++ A L(-) I S-- CH0(--)(p) Ar- T+ H0 ?Q
***@cdixon.me.uk
Plant amazing Acers.

Vicky

2017-05-16 12:24:43 UTC

Post by Penny
We had a bell system in the house I grew up in.

My aunt and uncle had a bell system in the house. There were bells in
the rooms and they sounded in the kitchen, presumably to call
servants. They all sounded like the front door bell :). I was a bad
child. And my uncle was a doctor and they had the next door, terraced
house, as the surgery, so thinking back it was possible that the door
bell might be rung by a patient if out-of-hours.

--
Vicky

Chris McMillan

2017-05-16 11:11:27 UTC

Post by Fenny
Don't you have an instant messaging system? One of my friends sends
his kids messages to tell them dinner is on the table and if they
don't get there soon, the cat will have it.

My Mum had an instant messaging system when we were kids, to get us in
for meals etc. It was a big cow bell my parents bought in Switzerland.
We could hear it from quite a long way away!

Yer

Sincerely Chris

krw

2017-05-15 22:31:15 UTC

Don't you have an instant messaging system? One of my friends sends
his kids messages to tell them dinner is on the table and if they
don't get there soon, the cat will have it.

I have been told off for messaging d upstairs which I did in preference
to shouting up the stairs when I wanted her attention.

--
Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
tiny.cc/KRWpics

Fenny

2017-05-15 22:41:45 UTC

Don't you have an instant messaging system? One of my friends sends
his kids messages to tell them dinner is on the table and if they
don't get there soon, the cat will have it.

I have been told off for messaging d upstairs which I did in preference
to shouting up the stairs when I wanted her attention.

When I was growing up, Pa had a rule about us not shouting upstairs,
we had to run up and give messages. But he would shout up for us to
come down when he wanted to tell us something!

He also told us off for blocking doorways. But that didn't apply to
his toolbox, which he left open next to the door between the dining
room and living room, ready to bite you in the leg when you weren't
looking.

--
Fenny

Sam Plusnet

2017-05-17 20:58:55 UTC

Don't you have an instant messaging system? One of my friends sends
his kids messages to tell them dinner is on the table and if they
don't get there soon, the cat will have it.

I have been told off for messaging d upstairs which I did in preference
to shouting up the stairs when I wanted her attention.

When I was growing up, Pa had a rule about us not shouting upstairs,
we had to run up and give messages. But he would shout up for us to
come down when he wanted to tell us something!
He also told us off for blocking doorways. But that didn't apply to
his toolbox, which he left open next to the door between the dining
room and living room, ready to bite you in the leg when you weren't
looking.

Ah! The
"Don't do as I do, do as I ..... well tell you!"
school of parenting.

An important part of my own childhood.

--
Sam Plusnet

Btms

2017-05-16 06:48:53 UTC

Don't you have an instant messaging system? One of my friends sends
his kids messages to tell them dinner is on the table and if they
don't get there soon, the cat will have it.

I have been told off for messaging d upstairs which I did in preference
to shouting up the stairs when I wanted her attention.

Of course you have. If you shouted, she wouldnt have heard and could
ignore you. :-)

--
BTMS - Equine Advisor Extraordinaire.

krw

2017-05-16 08:27:49 UTC

Don't you have an instant messaging system? One of my friends sends
his kids messages to tell them dinner is on the table and if they
don't get there soon, the cat will have it.

I have been told off for messaging d upstairs which I did in preference
to shouting up the stairs when I wanted her attention.

Of course you have. If you shouted, she wouldnt have heard and could
ignore you. :-)

Told off by wofe not d.

--
Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
tiny.cc/KRWpics

Jenny M Benson

2017-05-16 07:55:41 UTC

Post by krw
I have been told off for messaging d upstairs which I did in preference
to shouting up the stairs when I wanted her attention.

We lived in a 3-storey house when my daughter was a teenager. Her
bedroom was on the top floor and she had a tendency to play loud music
and thus be oblivious to calling. I would flick the main electricity
switch ... "Yes?" would be yelled downstairs.

--
Jenny M Benson

Vicky

2017-05-13 10:35:24 UTC

Mine can get the addition to use the loop if I want it when I go back
for the 2 months check-up. I might take it although apparently the
aids are supposed to filter out background noise and target speech,
also in theatres. I almost never go to one but have tickets for me and
grandson in November, booked LAST year, to see the Harry Potter play.

--
Vicky

krw

2017-05-15 10:24:50 UTC

Post by Vicky
for me and
grandson in November, booked LAST year, to see the Harry Potter play.

Plays - there are 2 of them. Seen them sometime ago and I hope you
enjoy them.

--
Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
tiny.cc/KRWpics

Sid Nuncius

2017-05-15 18:46:11 UTC

Post by Vicky
The hearing aids were configured to my needs by connecting them, while
I wore them, to a computer. I was very impressed by the technology.
They are apprently one of the latest kinds, free on the NHS and I get
free batteries too! I did have quite a wait to be assessed and then
fitted but the service was very good and not rushed. I hope they
don't decide this is something we should pay for, or hive it off to
private providers.

Like Vicky, I had brilliant treatment from the NHS when my ear failed. I
also have a (free) personally-tuned hearing aid which carries sound from
a receiver on my dead ear to my functioning one. Free batteries
supplied when needed, excellent support when there's a problem - i.e.
once in the eight years I've had it.

I cannot speak too highly of the audiology and ENT service and its
people at Charing Cross Hospital, including Prof. A. Bronstein, who is
the world's leading expert in dizziness, which is also a consequence of
my neural damage total labyrinthine failure, and have written to the
chief exec. to tell him so. What a shame that that nice Mr. Hunt wants
to knock the hospital down and sell the land to build more luxury flats
for overseas investors.

--
Sid (Make sure Matron is away when you reply)

LFS

2017-05-16 09:56:08 UTC

Post by Sid Nuncius

Like Vicky, I had brilliant treatment from the NHS when my ear failed. I
also have a (free) personally-tuned hearing aid which carries sound from
a receiver on my dead ear to my functioning one.

That's how mine works. The NHS audiologist didn't seem to understand
that, although she was the person who looked at my original hearing test
and saw that there was a problem so I should, I suppose, be grateful for
that.

Free batteries

Post by Sid Nuncius
supplied when needed, excellent support when there's a problem - i.e.
once in the eight years I've had it.
I cannot speak too highly of the audiology and ENT service and its
people at Charing Cross Hospital, including Prof. A. Bronstein, who is
the world's leading expert in dizziness, which is also a consequence of
my neural damage total labyrinthine failure,

Sid, we should compare notes. I heard a wonderful consultant vestibular
physician, Peter Savundra, speak at the local support group and found
his advice very helpful.

and have written to the

Post by Sid Nuncius
chief exec. to tell him so. What a shame that that nice Mr. Hunt wants
to knock the hospital down and sell the land to build more luxury flats
for overseas investors.

--
Laura (emulate St George for email)

Anne B

2017-05-16 13:34:52 UTC

Post by Vicky
I particularly noticed the bird song this morning. There are more
different kinds than I'd noticed before. There was some loud song
coming from two or three very small birds. I didn't think sparrows
would make that much noise but wasn't wearing glasses (nothing works,
teeth don't either) and didn't see any red so maybe not robins,
although I might not have seen red if there was some.
Other even louder and deeper song was added a little later. I'd heard
that one pre-hearing-aids and thought it was blackbirds, not thinking
a smaller bird could get that volume.

One of the loudest of all birds is one of the smallest, i.e. the Wren.

Anne B

Penny

2017-05-05 19:04:45 UTC

On Fri, 05 May 2017 18:26:56 GMT, Mike <***@ntlworld.com> scrawled
in the dust...

Post by Mike
If it is called off due to bad weather.... will it be aborted?

Oh, and BTN!

--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959

Jenny M Benson

2017-05-05 20:36:57 UTC

Post by Penny
in the dust...

Post by Mike
If it is called off due to bad weather.... will it be aborted?

Oh, and BTN!

Please explain to a non-TA-listening BTM so that she can made a decision.

--
Jenny M Benson

Btms

2017-05-05 20:57:53 UTC

Post by Penny
in the dust...

Post by Mike
If it is called off due to bad weather.... will it be aborted?

Oh, and BTN!

Please explain to a non-TA-listening BTM so that she can made a decision.

There is a clue in the title. Frankly the suggestion is utterly tasteless.

--
BTMS - Usurped as Editor in waiting

Penny

2017-05-06 00:08:28 UTC

On Fri, 5 May 2017 21:36:57 +0100, Jenny M Benson <***@hotmail.co.uk>
scrawled in the dust...

Post by Penny
in the dust...

Post by Mike
If it is called off due to bad weather.... will it be aborted?

Oh, and BTN!

Please explain to a non-TA-listening BTM so that she can made a decision.

Oh dear.
Perhaps you don't know that Kirsty recently miscarried a baby she
accidently conceived with Tom?

To be honest I wasn't sure what Toodles was on about or how it could relate
to an early morning walk Kirsty is planning but did feel the reference to
abortion was tasteless.

--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959

Mike

2017-05-06 07:02:54 UTC

Post by Penny
scrawled in the dust...

Post by Penny
in the dust...

Post by Mike
If it is called off due to bad weather.... will it be aborted?

Oh, and BTN!

Please explain to a non-TA-listening BTM so that she can made a decision.

Oh dear.
Perhaps you don't know that Kirsty recently miscarried a baby she
accidently conceived with Tom?
To be honest I wasn't sure what Toodles was on about or how it could relate
to an early morning walk Kirsty is planning but did feel the reference to
abortion was tasteless.

In my defence, the money raised is to go to a charity for aborted foetuses
they said.

--
Toodle Pip

Chris McMillan

2017-05-06 12:19:49 UTC

Post by Penny
scrawled in the dust...

Post by Penny
in the dust...

Post by Mike
If it is called off due to bad weather.... will it be aborted?

Oh, and BTN!

Please explain to a non-TA-listening BTM so that she can made a decision.

Oh dear.
Perhaps you don't know that Kirsty recently miscarried a baby she
accidently conceived with Tom?
To be honest I wasn't sure what Toodles was on about or how it could relate
to an early morning walk Kirsty is planning but did feel the reference to
abortion was tasteless.

In my defence, the money raised is to go to a charity for aborted foetuses
they said.

Toodles is talking about a dawn chorus walk Krusty's organising, with a
week's notice, while talking to Helen. Its a family event rather than a
twitchers guide to bird spotting.

Sincerely Chris

Jenny M Benson

2017-05-06 19:44:39 UTC

Post by Penny
scrawled in the dust...

Post by Penny
in the dust...

Post by Mike
If it is called off due to bad weather.... will it be aborted?

Oh, and BTN!

Please explain to a non-TA-listening BTM so that she can made a decision.

Oh dear.
Perhaps you don't know that Kirsty recently miscarried a baby she
accidently conceived with Tom?
To be honest I wasn't sure what Toodles was on about or how it could relate
to an early morning walk Kirsty is planning but did feel the reference to
abortion was tasteless.

In my defence, the money raised is to go to a charity for aborted foetuses
they said.

Right. Got it. Yes. BTN accepted.

--
Jenny M Benson

Mike

2017-05-07 07:42:55 UTC

Post by Penny
scrawled in the dust...

Post by Penny
in the dust...

Post by Mike
If it is called off due to bad weather.... will it be aborted?

Oh, and BTN!

Please explain to a non-TA-listening BTM so that she can made a decision.

Oh dear.
Perhaps you don't know that Kirsty recently miscarried a baby she
accidently conceived with Tom?
To be honest I wasn't sure what Toodles was on about or how it could relate
to an early morning walk Kirsty is planning but did feel the reference to
abortion was tasteless.

In my defence, the money raised is to go to a charity for aborted foetuses
they said.

Right. Got it. Yes. BTN accepted.

Beam and tweet!

--
Toodle Pip

Clive Arthur

2017-05-05 21:13:12 UTC

Post by Mike
If it is called off due to bad weather.... will it be aborted?

No, Kirsty Wark's on the wild side.

Cheers

--
Clive

Peter Percival

2017-05-05 21:19:31 UTC