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its just not cricket.
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Btms
2018-03-30 18:04:48 UTC
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As we have featured cricket both real and pretend here,I feel its ok to
snort my opprobrium at the current brouhaha over the Ozzie cheating
scandal. Seeing the cheating toad piping his eye over what he calls making
a mistake and I call distress at being caught, just winds me up. I get
really gritty when I hear what sounds like sympathy for his obvious
distress. Surely, he is a cocky little sh1t who is hugely embarrassed for
being caught*. Oaiam?

Cheating seems to be endemic in the world. Not naive enough to think its a
new concept but grizzling over being caught is only tolerable to me for an
under five year old.

*any suggestion that he isn’t the only one, does not change my attitude;
should this be your plea in mitigation for the little twerp.
steveski
2018-03-30 18:18:22 UTC
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As we have featured cricket both real and pretend here,I feel its ok to
snort my opprobrium at the current brouhaha over the Ozzie cheating
scandal. Seeing the cheating toad piping his eye over what he calls
making a mistake and I call distress at being caught, just winds me up.
I get really gritty when I hear what sounds like sympathy for his
obvious distress. Surely, he is a cocky little sh1t who is hugely
embarrassed for being caught*. Oaiam?
Cheating seems to be endemic in the world. Not naive enough to think
its a new concept but grizzling over being caught is only tolerable to
me for an under five year old.
*any suggestion that he isn’t the only one, does not change my attitude;
should this be your plea in mitigation for the little twerp.
Zackerly.
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Btms
2018-03-30 18:26:27 UTC
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As we have featured cricket both real and pretend here,I feel its ok to
snort my opprobrium at the current brouhaha over the Ozzie cheating
scandal. Seeing the cheating toad piping his eye over what he calls
making a mistake and I call distress at being caught, just winds me up.
I get really gritty when I hear what sounds like sympathy for his
obvious distress. Surely, he is a cocky little sh1t who is hugely
embarrassed for being caught*. Oaiam?
Cheating seems to be endemic in the world. Not naive enough to think
its a new concept but grizzling over being caught is only tolerable to
me for an under five year old.
*any suggestion that he isn’t the only one, does not change my attitude;
should this be your plea in mitigation for the little twerp.
Zackerly.
And you perhaps have a better understanding of the game than the likes of
me?
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steveski
2018-03-30 19:10:50 UTC
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As we have featured cricket both real and pretend here,I feel its ok
to snort my opprobrium at the current brouhaha over the Ozzie cheating
scandal. Seeing the cheating toad piping his eye over what he calls
making a mistake and I call distress at being caught, just winds me up.
I get really gritty when I hear what sounds like sympathy for his
obvious distress. Surely, he is a cocky little sh1t who is hugely
embarrassed for being caught*. Oaiam?
Cheating seems to be endemic in the world. Not naive enough to think
its a new concept but grizzling over being caught is only tolerable to
me for an under five year old.
*any suggestion that he isn’t the only one, does not change my attitude;
should this be your plea in mitigation for the little twerp.
Zackerly.
And you perhaps have a better understanding of the game than the likes
of me?
Eh?
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Btms
2018-03-30 19:24:00 UTC
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As we have featured cricket both real and pretend here,I feel its ok
to snort my opprobrium at the current brouhaha over the Ozzie cheating
scandal. Seeing the cheating toad piping his eye over what he calls
making a mistake and I call distress at being caught, just winds me up.
I get really gritty when I hear what sounds like sympathy for his
obvious distress. Surely, he is a cocky little sh1t who is hugely
embarrassed for being caught*. Oaiam?
Cheating seems to be endemic in the world. Not naive enough to think
its a new concept but grizzling over being caught is only tolerable to
me for an under five year old.
*any suggestion that he isn’t the only one, does not change my attitude;
should this be your plea in mitigation for the little twerp.
Zackerly.
And you perhaps have a better understanding of the game than the likes
of me?
Eh?
I know nuffin but the intricacies of the bat and ball basics sound
complicated once you go beyond the elementary. Your emphatic response is
most encouraging. .
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BrritSki
2018-03-31 08:03:28 UTC
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Post by Btms
As we have featured cricket both real and pretend here,I feel its ok to
snort my opprobrium at the current brouhaha over the Ozzie cheating
scandal. Seeing the cheating toad piping his eye over what he calls
making a mistake and I call distress at being caught...
That's exactly what we said this morning when listening to the latest
weepathon. You'd have to have a heart of stone not to laugh out loud.

Particularly satisfying after watching Smith's performance a few weeks
ago sniggering and gurning through the press conference about the
Bairstow "head butt". Karma has bitten him in the butt - and in the
bank balance.
Btms
2018-03-31 08:22:35 UTC
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As we have featured cricket both real and pretend here,I feel its ok to
snort my opprobrium at the current brouhaha over the Ozzie cheating
scandal. Seeing the cheating toad piping his eye over what he calls
making a mistake and I call distress at being caught...
That's exactly what we said this morning when listening to the latest
weepathon. You'd have to have a heart of stone not to laugh out loud.
Particularly satisfying after watching Smith's performance a few weeks
ago sniggering and gurning through the press conference about the
Bairstow "head butt". Karma has bitten him in the butt - and in the
bank balance.
“Weepathon”.....brilliant.

Did an Ozzie head but someone and laugh? Whoever/whatever that sounds
disgraceful.

All this sounds like extreme narcissism on a group scale with the usual
implosion of self when confronted with a reality that knocks them off their
perch.

Would I be right in thinking the England were probably quite beatable
without cheating? Aiui cricket isn’t played much by our yoof except in
private clubs and private schools? We have a small pool of talent today?
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BrritSki
2018-03-31 10:52:42 UTC
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Did an Ozzie head but someone and laugh?
No, Johnny Bairstow in his bluff Yorkshire fashion apparently greets
people by bumping heads with them. When he did this with Bancroft he
apparently accepted it at the time, but then they blew it up into
something it wasn't and gave an interview where their giggling made it
clear that they knew they were making a mountain of a molehill.
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Would I be right in thinking the England were probably quite beatable
without cheating?
They are a very fragile team at the moment and would probably have lost
the Ashes anyway, but we'll never know how much cheating went on in
Aus., which may have been more subtle, or may have been "missed" by the
Aussie TV company providing the coverage, or may have been completely
absent. There were certainly some occasions when the ball started to
reverse swing unexpectedly...
BrritSki
2018-03-31 11:00:30 UTC
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Did an Ozzie head but someone and laugh?
No, Johnny Bairstow in his bluff Yorkshire fashion apparently greets
people by bumping heads with them. When he did this with Bancroft he
apparently accepted it at the time, but then they blew it up into
something it wasn't and gave an interview where their giggling made it
clear that they knew they were making a mountain of a molehill.
Sorry to follow up to self, but here is the first report I can find of
the incident in the AUs press which makes it sound *very* serious:

<https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/ashes-201718-englands-jonny-bairstow-allegedly-headbutted-cameron-bancroft-in-perth-bar-20171126-gzt978.html>

and here is an article (with a video link to the interview) the next day
where it was clear it was all a stitch-up:

<https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/nov/27/mountain-out-of-a-molehill-joe-root-dismisses-claims-about-jonny-bairstow>
John Ashby
2018-03-31 14:33:47 UTC
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Did an Ozzie head but someone and laugh?
No, Johnny Bairstow in his bluff Yorkshire fashion apparently greets
people by bumping heads with them. When he did this with Bancroft he
apparently accepted it at the time, but then they blew it up into
something it wasn't and gave an interview where their giggling made it
clear that they knew they were making a mountain of a molehill.
Sorry to follow up to self, but here is the first report I can find of
<https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/ashes-201718-englands-jonny-bairstow-allegedly-headbutted-cameron-bancroft-in-perth-bar-20171126-gzt978.html>
and here is an article (with a video link to the interview) the next day
<https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/nov/27/mountain-out-of-a-molehill-joe-root-dismisses-claims-about-jonny-bairstow>
Yebbut, The Guardian!

john <goes off muttering about down hill slopes and Neville Cardus>
Btms
2018-03-31 11:13:42 UTC
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Did an Ozzie head but someone and laugh?
No, Johnny Bairstow in his bluff Yorkshire fashion apparently greets
people by bumping heads with them. When he did this with Bancroft he
apparently accepted it at the time, but then they blew it up into
something it wasn't and gave an interview where their giggling made it
clear that they knew they were making a mountain of a molehill.
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Would I be right in thinking the England were probably quite beatable
without cheating?
They are a very fragile team at the moment and would probably have lost
the Ashes anyway, but we'll never know how much cheating went on in
Aus., which may have been more subtle, or may have been "missed" by the
Aussie TV company providing the coverage, or may have been completely
absent. There were certainly some occasions when the ball started to
reverse swing unexpectedly...
Thank you. The intricacies of top quality sport are amazing; even though I
am generally disinterested. It makes me appreciate how good the excellent
are in their field. I have a good eye for a ball but have never played
anything competitively. I write as one much relieved the winter Olympics
are now done and dusted vis a vis our TV. However, I enjoy my attempts at
downhill. ⛷
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J. P. Gilliver (John)
2018-03-31 00:57:14 UTC
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As we have featured cricket both real and pretend here,I feel its ok to
snort my opprobrium at the current brouhaha over the Ozzie cheating
scandal. Seeing the cheating toad piping his eye over what he calls making
a mistake and I call distress at being caught, just winds me up. I get
really gritty when I hear what sounds like sympathy for his obvious
distress. Surely, he is a cocky little sh1t who is hugely embarrassed for
being caught*. Oaiam?
Cheating seems to be endemic in the world. Not naive enough to think its a
new concept but grizzling over being caught is only tolerable to me for an
under five year old.
*any suggestion that he isn’t the only one, does not change my attitude;
should this be your plea in mitigation for the little twerp.
As far as I'm concerned, it has (already, and I'm sure there is a _lot_
more to come) had too much coverage altogether. Yes, I agree with you
that he's not that believable, but my overall reaction is WHO CARES?
_Not_ that I mean I endorse cheating - I don't! - just that I feel it's
been given far too high a proportion of news minutes. (Not that this is
unusual - sport often exceeds its allocation, at least for we
non-sporting types. It's not as if there aren't lots of channels, even
free ones: if there are people who feel it _does_ deserve the level of
coverage it gets, they should split the news [which a lot of the time is
duplicated on two channels, usually 231 and 2 or 231 and 1, anyway].)
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Sid Nuncius
2018-03-31 05:33:04 UTC
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As we have featured cricket both real and pretend here,I feel its ok to
snort my opprobrium at the current brouhaha over the Ozzie cheating
scandal. Seeing the cheating toad piping his eye over what he calls making
a mistake and I call distress at being caught, just winds me up. I get
really gritty when I hear what sounds like sympathy for his obvious
distress. Surely, he is a cocky little sh1t who is hugely embarrassed for
being caught*. Oaiam?
Cheating seems to be endemic in the world. Not naive enough to think its a
new concept but grizzling over being caught is only tolerable to me for an
under five year old.
*any suggestion that he isn’t the only one, does not change my attitude;
should this be your plea in mitigation for the little twerp.
YANAM. Couldn't have put it better myself. And seeing David Warner -
David bloody *Warner*, for heaven's sake - doing the same raises
whingeing hypocrisy to an even more exalted level.
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Btms
2018-03-31 07:44:24 UTC
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As we have featured cricket both real and pretend here,I feel its ok to
snort my opprobrium at the current brouhaha over the Ozzie cheating
scandal. Seeing the cheating toad piping his eye over what he calls making
a mistake and I call distress at being caught, just winds me up. I get
really gritty when I hear what sounds like sympathy for his obvious
distress. Surely, he is a cocky little sh1t who is hugely embarrassed for
being caught*. Oaiam?
Cheating seems to be endemic in the world. Not naive enough to think its a
new concept but grizzling over being caught is only tolerable to me for an
under five year old.
*any suggestion that he isn’t the only one, does not change my attitude;
should this be your plea in mitigation for the little twerp.
YANAM. Couldn't have put it better myself. And seeing David Warner -
David bloody *Warner*, for heaven's sake - doing the same raises
whingeing hypocrisy to an even more exalted level.
I have now seen the Warner performance. I appreciate how large cricket
looms in the Ozzie psyche and imho the triumph the old Colonies display
when beating England is something about an inferiority complex which they
would do better to let go of in the 21st Century. I am beginning to
suspect the production of tears and rushing away from the press.

As a cricket appreciator and buff your views are well grounded in the game.
Mine are just based on the part of me that abhors unfairness in all its
forms. Thank you for responding.
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Sid Nuncius
2018-03-31 08:31:11 UTC
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As we have featured cricket both real and pretend here,I feel its ok to
snort my opprobrium at the current brouhaha over the Ozzie cheating
scandal. Seeing the cheating toad piping his eye over what he calls making
a mistake and I call distress at being caught, just winds me up. I get
really gritty when I hear what sounds like sympathy for his obvious
distress. Surely, he is a cocky little sh1t who is hugely embarrassed for
being caught*. Oaiam?
Cheating seems to be endemic in the world. Not naive enough to think its a
new concept but grizzling over being caught is only tolerable to me for an
under five year old.
*any suggestion that he isn’t the only one, does not change my attitude;
should this be your plea in mitigation for the little twerp.
YANAM. Couldn't have put it better myself. And seeing David Warner -
David bloody *Warner*, for heaven's sake - doing the same raises
whingeing hypocrisy to an even more exalted level.
I have now seen the Warner performance. I appreciate how large cricket
looms in the Ozzie psyche and imho the triumph the old Colonies display
when beating England is something about an inferiority complex which they
would do better to let go of in the 21st Century. I am beginning to
suspect the production of tears and rushing away from the press.
As a cricket appreciator and buff your views are well grounded in the game.
Mine are just based on the part of me that abhors unfairness in all its
forms. Thank you for responding.
My pleasure. And those of us who remember this:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricket/international/theashes/10256311/Ashes-2013-send-England-cheat-Stuart-Broad-back-home-in-tears-says-Australia-coach-Darren-Lehmann.html
might possibly be forgiven for feeling some schadenfreude at this:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/cricket/darren-lehmann-resigns-australia-coach-12272495

It's not just the premeditated, group-planned cheating and subsequent
lying (although that is simply appalling in itself), it's also the
sententious piousness with which those concerned have presented
themselves to the public for years while behaving quite abominably on
the field.

My apologies to those who think there has been disproportionate
attention given to this, but to those of us who have loved the game for
decades this really does matter. I also think that honesty and
integrity in all aspects of public life are important. I do accept,
though, that in the grand scheme of things and especially current
geopolitical developments, it's not of the highest significance.
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J. P. Gilliver (John)
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My apologies to those who think there has been disproportionate
attention given to this, but to those of us who have loved the game for
decades this really does matter. I also think that honesty and
integrity in all aspects of public life are important. I do accept,
though, that in the grand scheme of things and especially current
geopolitical developments, it's not of the highest significance.
Thanks for acknowledging that. I _do_ concede that cricket is an
important part of British life; like Radio 3 (and 1 for that matter),
although I rarely listen to it, I'm glad that it's there. But this
weepathon (love it) has now been the _first_ and _main_ article in the
news headlines for many hours, getting on for a day - FGS, tending
towards FFS!
[Had it been an _English_ cricketer similarly caught out, would the
coverage have been similar? I definitely wondered this, though I'm
genuinely unsure of the answer.]
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take this latest crackpot idea onboard without making it fight for acceptance
like all the previous ones'. - Richard Caley, 2002 February 11 00:02:28
Sid Nuncius
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[Had it been an _English_ cricketer similarly caught out, would the
coverage have been similar? I definitely wondered this, though I'm
genuinely unsure of the answer.]
It's hard to know, but I suspect that the quantity and prominence of the
coverage might even have been greater. The tone would probably have
been a good deal more sorrowful, though.

To a great extent the Australians have brought this on themselves; they
have very few friends left in world cricket because of their behaviour
for many years (hence all the talk of the "culture" of the Australian
team) and a great many people - including me - view this as a welcome
come-uppance. I would not feel the same if it had been, say, New
Zealand who have a well-deserved reputation for decency and honesty in
the way they play. They are rivals, too, but I respect them greatly for
the way they conduct themselves[1] and would have been genuinely upset
and sad if it had been them; with the Aussies I'm afraid I just feel
contempt and have no sympathy whatsoever for any of them, self-pitying
tears or no.

[1]I should like to make it clear that this does *not* extend to their
rugby team.
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BrritSki
2018-03-31 10:30:30 UTC
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[Had it been an _English_ cricketer similarly caught out, would the
coverage have been similar? I definitely wondered this, though I'm
genuinely unsure of the answer.]
It's hard to know, but I suspect that the quantity and prominence of the
coverage might even have been greater.  The tone would probably have
been a good deal more sorrowful, though.
To a great extent the Australians have brought this on themselves; they
have very few friends left in world cricket because of their behaviour
for many years (hence all the talk of the "culture" of the Australian
team) and a great many people - including me - view this as a welcome
come-uppance.  I would not feel the same if it had been, say, New
Zealand who have a well-deserved reputation for decency and honesty in
the way they play.  They are rivals, too, but I respect them greatly for
the way they conduct themselves[1] and would have been genuinely upset
and sad if it had been them; with the Aussies I'm afraid I just feel
contempt and have no sympathy whatsoever for any of them, self-pitying
tears or no.
<languid wave>
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[1]I should like to make it clear that this does *not* extend to their
rugby team.
<and to that too for a team that also shows a lot of hypocrisy>
John Ashby
2018-03-31 14:36:50 UTC
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and sad if it had been them; with the Aussies I'm afraid I just feel
contempt and have no sympathy whatsoever for any of them,
especially for being so stupid as to use bright yellow sandpaper,
guaranteed visible across a cricket field.

john
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Some good stuff snipped.
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and sad if it had been them; with the Aussies I'm afraid I just feel
contempt and have no sympathy whatsoever for any of them,
especially for being so stupid as to use bright yellow sandpaper,
guaranteed visible across a cricket field.
john
Arrogance or brain cell deficiency?
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[Had it been an _English_ cricketer similarly caught out, would the
coverage have been similar? I definitely wondered this, though I'm
genuinely unsure of the answer.]
Worse and more is my guess because we would probably have still lost! I
assume we lost?
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[Had it been an _English_ cricketer similarly caught out, would the
coverage have been similar? I definitely wondered this, though I'm
genuinely unsure of the answer.]
Worse and more is my guess because we would probably have still lost! I
assume we lost?
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I am most reassured to find I'm not alone in not knowing whether we won
or lost! I won't say not _caring_; although I don't _follow_ cricket, I
do feel a slight satisfaction when we're doing well - not least because
of the pleasure I know that brings to many, including severats. But
perhaps it does sum up the unbalanced coverage of this matter that any
actual result of matches has made less impression on me.
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[Had it been an _English_ cricketer similarly caught out, would the
coverage have been similar? I definitely wondered this, though I'm
genuinely unsure of the answer.]
Worse and more is my guess because we would probably have still lost!  I
assume we lost?
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I am most reassured to find I'm not alone in not knowing whether we won
or lost!
Neither - the match was between Australia and South Africa. (In South
Africa.)
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FGS, tending towards FFS!
Love that!
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FGS, tending towards FFS!
Love that!
And me. Sounds like a weather forecast.
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2018-03-31 10:26:54 UTC
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FGS, tending towards FFS!
Love that!
And me. Sounds like a weather forecast.
There are enough sports channels on radio without flooding us with it on
R4, I have no interest in sport or in any teams who ‘win’ or ‘lose’ and as
far as I’m concerned, ‘we’ don’t win or lose, I have and want, no part in
it - and as for cheating, whether it be by tampering with their balls,
taking drugs, or any other form of foul, I’ll have no truck with any of
them.
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2018-03-31 10:48:07 UTC
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FGS, tending towards FFS!
Love that!
And me. Sounds like a weather forecast.
There are enough sports channels on radio without flooding us with it on
R4, I have no interest in sport....
There are lots of things on R4 that I have no interest in, and most of
them are in 30 minute or longer programs, not just (genuine) items of news.
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FGS, tending towards FFS!
Love that!
And me. Sounds like a weather forecast.
There are enough sports channels on radio without flooding us with it on
R4, I have no interest in sport....
There are lots of things on R4 that I have no interest in, and most of
them are in 30 minute or longer programs, not just (genuine) items of news.
Well sed.
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[Had it been an _English_ cricketer similarly caught out, would the
coverage have been similar? I definitely wondered this, though I'm
genuinely unsure of the answer.]
I'm pretty sure it would have been. Remember the fuss, a few weeks ago,
with the cycling world in uproar about the Sky team's, in general, and
Bradley Wiggins', in particular, use of asthma medication. The thing
which made me particularly cross about that was to hear representatives
of the cycling PTB expressing shock and outrage about this, while making
it clear that no rules had actually been broken. Given that they,
presumably, had considerable influence over the rules, then if Sky's
behaviour was so far beyond the pale surely it was TPTB's responsibility
to write the rules appropriately.
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[Had it been an _English_ cricketer similarly caught out, would the
coverage have been similar? I definitely wondered this, though I'm
genuinely unsure of the answer.]
I'm pretty sure it would have been. Remember the fuss, a few weeks ago,
with the cycling world in uproar about the Sky team's, in general, and
Bradley Wiggins', in particular, use of asthma medication. The thing
which made me particularly cross about that was to hear representatives
of the cycling PTB expressing shock and outrage about this, while making
it clear that no rules had actually been broken. Given that they,
presumably, had considerable influence over the rules, then if Sky's
behaviour was so far beyond the pale surely it was TPTB's responsibility
to write the rules appropriately.
Do you mean you think it a CTAs exercise. If,so, it is very shameful as
they just hung him out to dry.
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I'm pretty sure it would have been. Remember the fuss, a few weeks ago,
with the cycling world in uproar about the Sky team's, in general, and
Bradley Wiggins', in particular, use of asthma medication. The thing
There's a certain amount of resentment of Sky, too. Subjectively I feel
it too, though objectively I can see that they're just one of many
commercial companies responsible for the commercialisation of sport.
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which made me particularly cross about that was to hear representatives
of the cycling PTB expressing shock and outrage about this, while making
it clear that no rules had actually been broken. Given that they,
presumably, had considerable influence over the rules, then if Sky's
behaviour was so far beyond the pale surely it was TPTB's responsibility
to write the rules appropriately.
Do you mean you think it a CTAs exercise. If,so, it is very shameful as
they just hung him out to dry.
I felt that, too.
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[Had it been an _English_ cricketer similarly caught out, would the
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genuinely unsure of the answer.]
I'm pretty sure it would have been. Remember the fuss, a few weeks ago,
with the cycling world in uproar about the Sky team's, in general, and
Bradley Wiggins', in particular, use of asthma medication. The thing
which made me particularly cross about that was to hear representatives
of the cycling PTB expressing shock and outrage about this, while making
it clear that no rules had actually been broken. Given that they,
presumably, had considerable influence over the rules, then if Sky's
behaviour was so far beyond the pale surely it was TPTB's responsibility
to write the rules appropriately.
Do you mean you think it a CTAs exercise. If,so, it is very shameful as
they just hung him out to dry.
That's what it sounded like, and I agree with you that it seemed both
shameful and shameless :(
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As we have featured cricket both real and pretend here,I feel its ok to
snort my opprobrium at the current brouhaha over the Ozzie cheating
scandal. Seeing the cheating toad piping his eye over what he calls making
a mistake and I call distress at being caught, just winds me up.  I get
really gritty when I hear what sounds like sympathy for his obvious
distress.  Surely, he is a cocky little sh1t who is hugely embarrassed
for
being caught*.  Oaiam?
Cheating seems to be endemic in the world.  Not naive enough to think
its a
new concept but grizzling over being caught is only tolerable to me for an
under five year old.
*any suggestion that he isn’t the only one, does not change my attitude;
should this be your plea in mitigation for the little twerp.
YANAM.  Couldn't have put it better myself.  And seeing David Warner -
David bloody *Warner*, for heaven's sake - doing the same raises
whingeing hypocrisy to an even more exalted level.
Would this be the same David Warner who lamped Joe Root in the Walkabout
in Birmingham? I mean, there's lots of really good pubs in Birmingham
selling real Birmimgham beer so what was he doing in a pissy lager theme
establishment? The big wuss!

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Oh dear. Some sort of slang I guess. I wonder what the origins are.
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Would this be the same David Warner who lamped Joe Root in the Walkabout
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Equivalent to thumped.
Oh dear. Some sort of slang I guess. I wonder what the origins are.
Not sure.
Cassells says it is early 19thc to beat, to strike, to thrash. Possibly a
version of to lam or lamb - lambaste.
It doesn't turn up in the Oxford Slang dict in this context at all.
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Would this be the same David Warner who lamped Joe Root in the Walkabout
What does "lamped" mean please?
Equivalent to thumped.
Oh dear. Some sort of slang I guess. I wonder what the origins are.
Not sure.
Cassells says it is early 19thc to beat, to strike, to thrash. Possibly a
version of to lam or lamb - lambaste.
It doesn't turn up in the Oxford Slang dict in this context at all.
Not a word I have heard and wonder if it is regional slang.
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Would this be the same David Warner who lamped Joe Root in the Walkabout
What does "lamped" mean please?
Equivalent to thumped.
Oh dear. Some sort of slang I guess. I wonder what the origins are.
Not sure.
Cassells says it is early 19thc to beat, to strike, to thrash. Possibly
a version of to lam or lamb - lambaste.
It doesn't turn up in the Oxford Slang dict in this context at all.
Not a word I have heard and wonder if it is regional slang.
I would consider it 'Northern' (FCVO Northern). BIMBWAF
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Would this be the same David Warner who lamped Joe Root in the Walkabout
What does "lamped" mean please?
Equivalent to thumped.
Oh dear. Some sort of slang I guess. I wonder what the origins are.
Not sure.
Cassells says it is early 19thc to beat, to strike, to thrash. Possibly
a version of to lam or lamb - lambaste.
It doesn't turn up in the Oxford Slang dict in this context at all.
Not a word I have heard and wonder if it is regional slang.
I would consider it 'Northern' (FCVO Northern). BIMBWAF
Might it be ‘lamping’to put someones’s lights out’ - punching someone’s
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Would this be the same David Warner who lamped Joe Root in the Walkabout
What does "lamped" mean please?
Equivalent to thumped.
Oh dear. Some sort of slang I guess. I wonder what the origins are.
Not sure.
Cassells says it is early 19thc to beat, to strike, to thrash. Possibly
a version of to lam or lamb - lambaste.
It doesn't turn up in the Oxford Slang dict in this context at all.
Not a word I have heard and wonder if it is regional slang.
I would consider it 'Northern' (FCVO Northern). BIMBWAF
Might it be ‘lamping’to put someones’s lights out’ - punching someone’s
eyes out?
Lamp is certainly related to eyes but lam really does seem a more likely
root - to lam into = to beat up.
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Would this be the same David Warner who lamped Joe Root in the Walkabout
What does "lamped" mean please?
Equivalent to thumped.
Oh dear. Some sort of slang I guess. I wonder what the origins are.
Not sure.
Cassells says it is early 19thc to beat, to strike, to thrash. Possibly
a version of to lam or lamb - lambaste.
It doesn't turn up in the Oxford Slang dict in this context at all.
Not a word I have heard and wonder if it is regional slang.
I would consider it 'Northern' (FCVO Northern). BIMBWAF
Might it be ‘lamping’to put someones’s lights out’ - punching someone’s
eyes out?
Lamp is certainly related to eyes but lam really does seem a more likely
root - to lam into = to beat up.
I think lamps=eyes is right. There's a suggestion of blacking one's
adversary's eyes. It surprises me a little that manyrats are unfamiliar
with this usage, but then I'm learning new words all the time even at my
advanced age.

Next week: "malky", and how it relates to osculatory activity in the
city of non-growing trees.

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Would this be the same David Warner who lamped Joe Root in the Walkabout
What does "lamped" mean please?
Equivalent to thumped.
Oh dear. Some sort of slang I guess. I wonder what the origins are.
Not sure.
Cassells says it is early 19thc to beat, to strike, to thrash. Possibly
a version of to lam or lamb - lambaste.
It doesn't turn up in the Oxford Slang dict in this context at all.
Not a word I have heard and wonder if it is regional slang.
I would consider it 'Northern' (FCVO Northern). BIMBWAF
Might it be ‘lamping’to put someones’s lights out’ - punching someone’s
eyes out?
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Is the gorse in flower?
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What does "lamped" mean please?
Equivalent to thumped.
Oh dear. Some sort of slang I guess. I wonder what the origins are.
Not sure.
Cassells says it is early 19thc to beat, to strike, to thrash. Possibly a
version of to lam or lamb - lambaste.
It doesn't turn up in the Oxford Slang dict in this context at all.
"Lamming" I know in that context, but to me "lamping" is something you
do in a field after dark with a couple of long dogs.
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What does "lamped" mean please?
Equivalent to thumped.
Oh dear. Some sort of slang I guess.  I wonder what the origins are.
Not sure.
Cassells says it is early 19thc to beat, to strike, to thrash. Possibly a
version of to lam or lamb - lambaste.
It doesn't turn up in the Oxford Slang dict in this context at all.
"Lamming" I know in that context, but to me "lamping" is something you
do in a field after dark with a couple of long dogs.
I've come across the verbs to lamp and to lump in Rosie's usage. I'm
not sure about this, but ISTR that in Nottingham, Derby and environs
people used to "lump him one", while further north they tended to lamp
rather than lump. (The physical outcome was similar.) However, this
could be complete tosh because my memory is, frankly, rubbish these days.
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What does "lamped" mean please?
Equivalent to thumped.
Oh dear. Some sort of slang I guess.  I wonder what the origins are.
Not sure.
Cassells says it is early 19thc to beat, to strike, to thrash. Possibly a
version of to lam or lamb - lambaste.
It doesn't turn up in the Oxford Slang dict in this context at all.
"Lamming" I know in that context, but to me "lamping" is something you
do in a field after dark with a couple of long dogs.
I've come across the verbs to lamp and to lump in Rosie's usage. I'm
not sure about this, but ISTR that in Nottingham, Derby and environs
people used to "lump him one", while further north they tended to lamp
rather than lump. (The physical outcome was similar.) However, this
could be complete tosh because my memory is, frankly, rubbish these days.
As therat who asked about this may I say I get the possibility of lump
transitioning to lump.
As I have spent only a short spell North of Watford* I tend to agree it may
be Northern in origin with the vowel sounds subject to local custom..
I now recall my Mother saying “land him one” with the meaning of landing a
punch. Parents came from Kent.

*a year or two near Hull. I do realise there is no aitch in ull. 🙂
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What does "lamped" mean please?
Equivalent to thumped.
Oh dear. Some sort of slang I guess.  I wonder what the origins are.
Not sure.
Cassells says it is early 19thc to beat, to strike, to thrash. Possibly a
version of to lam or lamb - lambaste.
It doesn't turn up in the Oxford Slang dict in this context at all.
"Lamming" I know in that context, but to me "lamping" is something you
do in a field after dark with a couple of long dogs.
I've come across the verbs to lamp and to lump in Rosie's usage. I'm
not sure about this, but ISTR that in Nottingham, Derby and environs
people used to "lump him one", while further north they tended to lamp
rather than lump. (The physical outcome was similar.) However, this
could be complete tosh because my memory is, frankly, rubbish these days.
As therat who asked about this may I say I get the possibility of lump
transitioning to lump.
As I have spent only a short spell North of Watford* I tend to agree it may
be Northern in origin with the vowel sounds subject to local custom..
I now recall my Mother saying “land him one” with the meaning of landing a
punch. Parents came from Kent.
*a year or two near Hull. I do realise there is no aitch in ull. 🙂
Indeed not. It's 'Ull with a hapostrophe. It's near 'Essle (pronounced
'Ezzle) and 'Edon, and on the 'Olderness Plain. Other nearby delights
are With, a decayed seaside town that never was; Driff, a pleasant
market town which has, or used to have 40 years ago, a rather excellent
pie shop; Brid, the 'Ub of the Huniverse and land of fleshpots,
fish'n'chips and kittiwakes.

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What does "lamped" mean please?
Equivalent to thumped.
Oh dear. Some sort of slang I guess.  I wonder what the origins are.
Not sure.
Cassells says it is early 19thc to beat, to strike, to thrash. Possibly a
version of to lam or lamb - lambaste.
It doesn't turn up in the Oxford Slang dict in this context at all.
"Lamming" I know in that context, but to me "lamping" is something you
do in a field after dark with a couple of long dogs.
I've come across the verbs to lamp and to lump in Rosie's usage. I'm
not sure about this, but ISTR that in Nottingham, Derby and environs
people used to "lump him one", while further north they tended to lamp
rather than lump. (The physical outcome was similar.) However, this
could be complete tosh because my memory is, frankly, rubbish these days.
As therat who asked about this may I say I get the possibility of lump
transitioning to lump.
As I have spent only a short spell North of Watford* I tend to agree it may
be Northern in origin with the vowel sounds subject to local custom..
I now recall my Mother saying “land him one” with the meaning of landing a
punch. Parents came from Kent.
*a year or two near Hull. I do realise there is no aitch in ull. 🙂
Indeed not. It's 'Ull with a hapostrophe. It's near 'Essle (pronounced
'Ezzle) and 'Edon, and on the 'Olderness Plain. Other nearby delights
are With, a decayed seaside town that never was; Driff, a pleasant
market town which has, or used to have 40 years ago, a rather excellent
pie shop; Brid, the 'Ub of the Huniverse and land of fleshpots,
fish'n'chips and kittiwakes.
Best fish and chips ever in Brid. We have friends with a farm at
Aldbrough, up the coast from With. Bits of their land keep dropping off.
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What does "lamped" mean please?
Equivalent to thumped.
Oh dear. Some sort of slang I guess.  I wonder what the origins are.
Not sure.
Cassells says it is early 19thc to beat, to strike, to thrash. Possibly a
version of to lam or lamb - lambaste.
It doesn't turn up in the Oxford Slang dict in this context at all.
"Lamming" I know in that context, but to me "lamping" is something you
do in a field after dark with a couple of long dogs.
I've come across the verbs to lamp and to lump in Rosie's usage. I'm
not sure about this, but ISTR that in Nottingham, Derby and environs
people used to "lump him one", while further north they tended to lamp
rather than lump. (The physical outcome was similar.) However, this
could be complete tosh because my memory is, frankly, rubbish these days.
As therat who asked about this may I say I get the possibility of lump
transitioning to lump.
As I have spent only a short spell North of Watford* I tend to agree it may
be Northern in origin with the vowel sounds subject to local custom..
I now recall my Mother saying “land him one” with the meaning of landing a
punch. Parents came from Kent.
*a year or two near Hull. I do realise there is no aitch in ull. 🙂
Indeed not. It's 'Ull with a hapostrophe. It's near 'Essle (pronounced
'Ezzle) and 'Edon, and on the 'Olderness Plain. Other nearby delights
are With, a decayed seaside town that never was; Driff, a pleasant
market town which has, or used to have 40 years ago, a rather excellent
pie shop; Brid, the 'Ub of the Huniverse and land of fleshpots,
fish'n'chips and kittiwakes.
Rotaa
I knew them all! We lived near With; bit of a culture shock as I had never
come across the sale of jugs of tea for t’ beach. Nor had I seen brown
sea! Also shocked to see females wandering around ‘Ull on a Saturday with
large rollers very nearly covered with a headscarf! Not keen on the smell
of fish around the Land of Green Ginger on warm days.

I think I hated the place but always loved the people. I loved their
straight talking, their humour and their genuine natures. Have recently
been listening “To ‘ull and Back on R4”
Imho it was much much funnier than this show portrays. Marcus Briggstock
got it spot on, when he was “in town” there.
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Phwooar!
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I think I hated the place but always loved the people. I loved their
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Imho it was much much funnier than this show portrays. Marcus Briggstock
got it spot on, when he was “in town” there.
That would have been Mark Steel, Shirley?
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I think I hated the place but always loved the people. I loved their
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been listening “To ‘ull and Back on R4”
Imho it was much much funnier than this show portrays. Marcus Briggstock
got it spot on, when he was “in town” there.
That would have been Mark Steel, Shirley?
Yes it would. I always muddled them! If course, I don’t limit my
confusions to Messtrs Steele & Briggstock. 😉
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I think I hated the place but always loved the people. I loved their
straight talking, their humour and their genuine natures. Have recently
been listening “To ‘ull and Back on R4”
Imho it was much much funnier than this show portrays. Marcus Briggstock
got it spot on, when he was “in town” there.
That would have been Mark Steel, Shirley?
Yes it would. I always muddled them! If course, I don’t limit my
confusions to Messtrs Steele & Briggstock. 😉
Messrs Steele & Briggstock sound like they should be in competition
with Guest, Keen and Nettlefolds.
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I think I hated the place but always loved the people. I loved their
straight talking, their humour and their genuine natures. Have recently
been listening “To ‘ull and Back on R4”
Imho it was much much funnier than this show portrays. Marcus Briggstock
got it spot on, when he was “in town” there.
Um, Mark Steel?
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I think I hated the place but always loved the people. I loved their
straight talking, their humour and their genuine natures. Have recently
been listening “To ‘ull and Back on R4”
Imho it was much much funnier than this show portrays. Marcus Briggstock
got it spot on, when he was “in town” there.
Um, Mark Steel?
Usually, one uses engineer’s blue then the resulting surface is marked up
with a stylus. ;-)))
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However, there is most certainly a K in Kingston.
The Times has an article about Footlights this morning with the phrase

"The Footlights counts John Cleese and Graham Chapman, the writers of
Monty Python’s “Argument Clinic” sketch..."

Guess what IRTA ? Harsh I thought, esp. as one of them is dead (and the
other dying in that Sunset thing)...
Btms
2018-04-02 07:26:04 UTC
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*a year or two near Hull. I do realise there is no aitch in ull.
However, there is most certainly a K in Kingston.
The Times has an article about Footlights this morning with the phrase
"The Footlights counts John Cleese and Graham Chapman, the writers of
Monty Python’s “Argument Clinic” sketch..."
Guess what IRTA ? Harsh I thought, esp. as one of them is dead (and the
other dying in that Sunset thing)...
I sense investments from glory days have not met expectations for many.
Not just those in the entertainment industry.
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Mike
2018-04-01 10:39:03 UTC
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What does "lamped" mean please?
Equivalent to thumped.
Oh dear. Some sort of slang I guess. I wonder what the origins are.
Not sure.
Cassells says it is early 19thc to beat, to strike, to thrash. Possibly a
version of to lam or lamb - lambaste.
It doesn't turn up in the Oxford Slang dict in this context at all.
"Lamming" I know in that context, but to me "lamping" is something you
do in a field after dark with a couple of long dogs.
The Grundies have never done any of that malarky of course, oh no....;-)
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2018-03-31 14:39:59 UTC
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Would this be the same David Warner who lamped Joe Root in the Walkabout
in Birmingham? I mean, there's lots of really good pubs in Birmingham
selling real Birmimgham beer so what was he doing in a pissy lager theme
establishment? The big wuss!
Most Australians wouldn't give a XXXX for anything decently brewed.

john
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Would this be the same David Warner who lamped Joe Root in the Walkabout
in Birmingham? I mean, there's lots of really good pubs in Birmingham
selling real Birmimgham beer so what was he doing in a pissy lager theme
establishment? The big wuss!
Most Australians wouldn't give a XXXX for anything decently brewed.
john
Applause. Well played sir.
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LFS
2018-03-31 21:52:04 UTC
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As we have featured cricket both real and pretend here,I feel its ok to
snort my opprobrium at the current brouhaha over the Ozzie cheating
scandal. Seeing the cheating toad piping his eye over what he calls making
a mistake and I call distress at being caught, just winds me up.  I get
really gritty when I hear what sounds like sympathy for his obvious
distress.  Surely, he is a cocky little sh1t who is hugely embarrassed
for
being caught*.  Oaiam?
Cheating seems to be endemic in the world.  Not naive enough to think
its a
new concept but grizzling over being caught is only tolerable to me for an
under five year old.
*any suggestion that he isn’t the only one, does not change my attitude;
should this be your plea in mitigation for the little twerp.
YANAM.  Couldn't have put it better myself.  And seeing David Warner -
David bloody *Warner*, for heaven's sake - doing the same raises
whingeing hypocrisy to an even more exalted level.
As the wonderful Ian McMillan tweeted: if I'd sandpapered my balls, I'd
be weeping...

Here's what my cousin had to say:
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/mar/26/steve-smith-responsible-take-blame-australia-mess
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Sid Nuncius
2018-04-01 05:47:42 UTC
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Cheating seems to be endemic in the world.  Not naive enough to think
its a
new concept but grizzling over being caught is only tolerable to me for an
under five year old.
*any suggestion that he isn’t the only one, does not change my attitude;
should this be your plea in mitigation for the little twerp.
YANAM.  Couldn't have put it better myself.  And seeing David Warner -
David bloody *Warner*, for heaven's sake - doing the same raises
whingeing hypocrisy to an even more exalted level.
As the wonderful Ian McMillan tweeted: if I'd sandpapered my balls, I'd
be weeping...
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/mar/26/steve-smith-responsible-take-blame-australia-mess
Excellent article. And I thought this sentence, especially from such a
wise, moderate and thoughtful commentator, was particularly striking:
"Everything about Smith’s response to this situation has been ratshit."

I don't think I can improve on that as an assessment.
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