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Kate B
2016-04-14 18:25:07 UTC
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I am trying to remember what happened with Dr Locke and Shula, and it is
all very confused because Alan the Vicar and Richard the Doctor both
sound exactly the same (so that I had no idea who was talking to Susan
in the shop tonight, for instance). What I think I remember is that
Richard and Usha were an item, and actually living together (in Blossom
Hill Cottage?), when Shula muscled in on the game and seduced him.

So what happened next, and why is there not a scintilla of recognition
of this in the current dialogues between Richard and Shula, or Shula and
Lizzie, or even Richard and Lizzie? Did Lizzie know?
--
Kate B
London
Serena Blanchflower
2016-04-14 19:03:17 UTC
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Post by Kate B
I am trying to remember what happened with Dr Locke and Shula, and it is
all very confused because Alan the Vicar and Richard the Doctor both
sound exactly the same (so that I had no idea who was talking to Susan
in the shop tonight, for instance). What I think I remember is that
Richard and Usha were an item, and actually living together (in Blossom
Hill Cottage?), when Shula muscled in on the game and seduced him.
It was in the early days of Shula and Alistair's relationship. Daniel
became ill, with what turned out to be JRA[1]. While he was still
undergoing tests (largely as an inpatient), Shula was distraught and
Richard was the one person who could explain what was going on and help
her through it. ISTR various scenes in the hospital, with both Richard
and Alistair (who used to be good mates) trying to comfort Shula but it
was Richard she found more reassuring. He'd end up taking Shula off for
a coffee, while Alistair stayed, sitting with Daniel.


I can't remember who made the first move[2] but they ended up having an
affair and, as a result Richard left Ambridge. ISTR him being
devastated that Shula didn't go with him.

Not long after Richard left, a lovelorn Alistair proposed to Shula, who
accepted him.
Post by Kate B
So what happened next, and why is there not a scintilla of recognition
of this in the current dialogues between Richard and Shula, or Shula and
Lizzie, or even Richard and Lizzie? Did Lizzie know?
I can't remember for certain but I have a feeling that it was pretty
generally known, so I would assume Lizzie did.



[1] At least, it was diagnosed as such, although he seems to have
recovered remarkably well from it.
[2] Either way, given Shula's vulnerability at the time, it was a text
book case of why doctors aren't supposed to get involved with patients.
--
Best wishes, Serena
I always have a quotation for everything - it saves original thinking
(Dorothy L. Sayers)
Sally Thompson
2016-04-15 07:19:17 UTC
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Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by Kate B
I am trying to remember what happened with Dr Locke and Shula, and it is
all very confused because Alan the Vicar and Richard the Doctor both
sound exactly the same (so that I had no idea who was talking to Susan
in the shop tonight, for instance). What I think I remember is that
Richard and Usha were an item, and actually living together (in Blossom
Hill Cottage?), when Shula muscled in on the game and seduced him.
It was in the early days of Shula and Alistair's relationship. Daniel
became ill, with what turned out to be JRA[1]. While he was still
undergoing tests (largely as an inpatient), Shula was distraught and
Richard was the one person who could explain what was going on and help
her through it. ISTR various scenes in the hospital, with both Richard
and Alistair (who used to be good mates) trying to comfort Shula but it
was Richard she found more reassuring. He'd end up taking Shula off for
a coffee, while Alistair stayed, sitting with Daniel.
I can't remember who made the first move[2] but they ended up having an
affair and, as a result Richard left Ambridge. ISTR him being
devastated that Shula didn't go with him.
Not long after Richard left, a lovelorn Alistair proposed to Shula, who
accepted him.
Post by Kate B
So what happened next, and why is there not a scintilla of recognition
of this in the current dialogues between Richard and Shula, or Shula and
Lizzie, or even Richard and Lizzie? Did Lizzie know?
I can't remember for certain but I have a feeling that it was pretty
generally known, so I would assume Lizzie did.
[1] At least, it was diagnosed as such, although he seems to have
recovered remarkably well from it.
[2] Either way, given Shula's vulnerability at the time, it was a text
book case of why doctors aren't supposed to get involved with patients.
It was certainly known by Susan, because I remember an episode in the
village hall when she said something snide in public about "everyone
knowing why Dr Locke had left, didn't they Shula?". Shula rushed out
distraught and Alistair comforted her which was the beginning of how they
got back together.
--
Sally in Shropshire, UK
krw
2016-04-15 08:57:38 UTC
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Post by Sally Thompson
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by Kate B
I am trying to remember what happened with Dr Locke and Shula, and it is
all very confused because Alan the Vicar and Richard the Doctor both
sound exactly the same (so that I had no idea who was talking to Susan
in the shop tonight, for instance). What I think I remember is that
Richard and Usha were an item, and actually living together (in Blossom
Hill Cottage?), when Shula muscled in on the game and seduced him.
It was in the early days of Shula and Alistair's relationship. Daniel
became ill, with what turned out to be JRA[1]. While he was still
undergoing tests (largely as an inpatient), Shula was distraught and
Richard was the one person who could explain what was going on and help
her through it. ISTR various scenes in the hospital, with both Richard
and Alistair (who used to be good mates) trying to comfort Shula but it
was Richard she found more reassuring. He'd end up taking Shula off for
a coffee, while Alistair stayed, sitting with Daniel.
I can't remember who made the first move[2] but they ended up having an
affair and, as a result Richard left Ambridge. ISTR him being
devastated that Shula didn't go with him.
Not long after Richard left, a lovelorn Alistair proposed to Shula, who
accepted him.
Post by Kate B
So what happened next, and why is there not a scintilla of recognition
of this in the current dialogues between Richard and Shula, or Shula and
Lizzie, or even Richard and Lizzie? Did Lizzie know?
I can't remember for certain but I have a feeling that it was pretty
generally known, so I would assume Lizzie did.
[1] At least, it was diagnosed as such, although he seems to have
recovered remarkably well from it.
[2] Either way, given Shula's vulnerability at the time, it was a text
book case of why doctors aren't supposed to get involved with patients.
It was certainly known by Susan, because I remember an episode in the
village hall when she said something snide in public about "everyone
knowing why Dr Locke had left, didn't they Shula?". Shula rushed out
distraught and Alistair comforted her which was the beginning of how they
got back together.
It was a cricket club AGM or dinner or something similar and Susan
certainly revealed it to the wider world; I was never sure how she knew.

Actually I think DDD made the first move but I may well be wrong.
--
Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
tiny.cc/KRWpics
Kate B
2016-04-15 09:28:09 UTC
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Post by krw
Post by Sally Thompson
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by Kate B
I am trying to remember what happened with Dr Locke and Shula, and it is
all very confused because Alan the Vicar and Richard the Doctor both
sound exactly the same (so that I had no idea who was talking to Susan
in the shop tonight, for instance). What I think I remember is that
Richard and Usha were an item, and actually living together (in Blossom
Hill Cottage?), when Shula muscled in on the game and seduced him.
It was in the early days of Shula and Alistair's relationship. Daniel
became ill, with what turned out to be JRA[1]. While he was still
undergoing tests (largely as an inpatient), Shula was distraught and
Richard was the one person who could explain what was going on and help
her through it. ISTR various scenes in the hospital, with both Richard
and Alistair (who used to be good mates) trying to comfort Shula but it
was Richard she found more reassuring. He'd end up taking Shula off for
a coffee, while Alistair stayed, sitting with Daniel.
I can't remember who made the first move[2] but they ended up having an
affair and, as a result Richard left Ambridge. ISTR him being
devastated that Shula didn't go with him.
Not long after Richard left, a lovelorn Alistair proposed to Shula, who
accepted him.
Post by Kate B
So what happened next, and why is there not a scintilla of recognition
of this in the current dialogues between Richard and Shula, or Shula and
Lizzie, or even Richard and Lizzie? Did Lizzie know?
I can't remember for certain but I have a feeling that it was pretty
generally known, so I would assume Lizzie did.
[1] At least, it was diagnosed as such, although he seems to have
recovered remarkably well from it.
[2] Either way, given Shula's vulnerability at the time, it was a text
book case of why doctors aren't supposed to get involved with patients.
It was certainly known by Susan, because I remember an episode in the
village hall when she said something snide in public about "everyone
knowing why Dr Locke had left, didn't they Shula?". Shula rushed out
distraught and Alistair comforted her which was the beginning of how they
got back together.
It was a cricket club AGM or dinner or something similar and Susan
certainly revealed it to the wider world; I was never sure how she knew.
Actually I think DDD made the first move but I may well be wrong.
I thought he was being sympathetic and StS rather took advantage, but I
may be biased. What I don't understand is why we haven't heard Shula and
Lizzie make any mention of previous. I suppose we aren't seeing any of
the meaningful glances that may be flying about.

Or of course the archive-less SW's may simply have forgotten and in a
few weeks time we'll suddenly get a rash of allusions as they cotton on.
--
Kate B
London
Nick Odell
2016-04-15 20:16:37 UTC
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Post by Kate B
Post by krw
Post by Sally Thompson
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by Kate B
I am trying to remember what happened with Dr Locke and Shula, and it is
all very confused because Alan the Vicar and Richard the Doctor both
sound exactly the same (so that I had no idea who was talking to Susan
in the shop tonight, for instance). What I think I remember is that
Richard and Usha were an item, and actually living together (in Blossom
Hill Cottage?), when Shula muscled in on the game and seduced him.
It was in the early days of Shula and Alistair's relationship. Daniel
became ill, with what turned out to be JRA[1]. While he was still
undergoing tests (largely as an inpatient), Shula was distraught and
Richard was the one person who could explain what was going on and help
her through it. ISTR various scenes in the hospital, with both Richard
and Alistair (who used to be good mates) trying to comfort Shula but it
was Richard she found more reassuring. He'd end up taking Shula off for
a coffee, while Alistair stayed, sitting with Daniel.
I can't remember who made the first move[2] but they ended up having an
affair and, as a result Richard left Ambridge. ISTR him being
devastated that Shula didn't go with him.
Not long after Richard left, a lovelorn Alistair proposed to Shula, who
accepted him.
Post by Kate B
So what happened next, and why is there not a scintilla of recognition
of this in the current dialogues between Richard and Shula, or Shula and
Lizzie, or even Richard and Lizzie? Did Lizzie know?
I can't remember for certain but I have a feeling that it was pretty
generally known, so I would assume Lizzie did.
[1] At least, it was diagnosed as such, although he seems to have
recovered remarkably well from it.
[2] Either way, given Shula's vulnerability at the time, it was a text
book case of why doctors aren't supposed to get involved with patients.
It was certainly known by Susan, because I remember an episode in the
village hall when she said something snide in public about "everyone
knowing why Dr Locke had left, didn't they Shula?". Shula rushed out
distraught and Alistair comforted her which was the beginning of how they
got back together.
It was a cricket club AGM or dinner or something similar and Susan
certainly revealed it to the wider world; I was never sure how she knew.
Actually I think DDD made the first move but I may well be wrong.
I thought he was being sympathetic and StS rather took advantage, but I
may be biased. What I don't understand is why we haven't heard Shula and
Lizzie make any mention of previous. I suppose we aren't seeing any of
the meaningful glances that may be flying about.
Or of course the archive-less SW's may simply have forgotten and in a
few weeks time we'll suddenly get a rash of allusions as they cotton on.
That conjures up thoughts that are most Pirandelloesque.

Nick
BrritSki
2016-04-16 06:56:10 UTC
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Post by Kate B
I thought he was being sympathetic and StS rather took advantage, but I
may be biased. What I don't understand is why we haven't heard Shula and
Lizzie make any mention of previous. I suppose we aren't seeing any of
the meaningful glances that may be flying about.
Or of course the archive-less SW's may simply have forgotten and in a
few weeks time we'll suddenly get a rash of allusions as they cotton on.
Dot Cotton on ?

The katest (TWATBILI and curiously appropriate) Line of Duty series is
excellent again innit ?
LFS
2016-04-16 08:53:06 UTC
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Post by BrritSki
Post by Kate B
I thought he was being sympathetic and StS rather took advantage, but I
may be biased. What I don't understand is why we haven't heard Shula and
Lizzie make any mention of previous. I suppose we aren't seeing any of
the meaningful glances that may be flying about.
Or of course the archive-less SW's may simply have forgotten and in a
few weeks time we'll suddenly get a rash of allusions as they cotton on.
Dot Cotton on ?
The katest (TWATBILI and curiously appropriate) Line of Duty series is
excellent again innit ?
Quite brilliant.

S
P
O
I
L
E
R










I thought the scene with the horrible little ginger man from the
offenders management team was especially good and cheered when he got
his just deserts. The dialogue was particularly good.
--
Laura (emulate St George for email)
Sally Thompson
2016-04-16 09:21:11 UTC
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Post by LFS
Post by BrritSki
Post by Kate B
I thought he was being sympathetic and StS rather took advantage, but I
may be biased. What I don't understand is why we haven't heard Shula and
Lizzie make any mention of previous. I suppose we aren't seeing any of
the meaningful glances that may be flying about.
Or of course the archive-less SW's may simply have forgotten and in a
few weeks time we'll suddenly get a rash of allusions as they cotton on.
Dot Cotton on ?
The katest (TWATBILI and curiously appropriate) Line of Duty series is
excellent again innit ?
Quite brilliant.
S
P
O
I
L
E
R
I thought the scene with the horrible little ginger man from the
offenders management team was especially good and cheered when he got
his just deserts. The dialogue was particularly good.
Oh yes! I guessed he might be getting more than he bargained for, but not
about the camera. (Nit pick: how could she afford the camera?)

Did anyone else have the stray thought that the scene where Lindsay
produced the "audio recording" was deliberately staged in cahoots with
Steve to flush out the baddy?
--
Sally in Shropshire, UK
Penny
2016-04-16 09:31:00 UTC
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On 16 Apr 2016 09:21:11 GMT, Sally Thompson
Post by Sally Thompson
Post by LFS
Post by BrritSki
Post by Kate B
I thought he was being sympathetic and StS rather took advantage, but I
may be biased. What I don't understand is why we haven't heard Shula and
Lizzie make any mention of previous. I suppose we aren't seeing any of
the meaningful glances that may be flying about.
Or of course the archive-less SW's may simply have forgotten and in a
few weeks time we'll suddenly get a rash of allusions as they cotton on.
Dot Cotton on ?
The katest (TWATBILI and curiously appropriate) Line of Duty series is
excellent again innit ?
Quite brilliant.
S
P
O
I
L
E
R
I thought the scene with the horrible little ginger man from the
offenders management team was especially good and cheered when he got
his just deserts. The dialogue was particularly good.
I had a sudden thought about the vulnerability of arrogant men - he
reminded me of Rob...
Post by Sally Thompson
Oh yes! I guessed he might be getting more than he bargained for, but not
about the camera. (Nit pick: how could she afford the camera?)
Did anyone else have the stray thought that the scene where Lindsay
produced the "audio recording" was deliberately staged in cahoots with
Steve to flush out the baddy?
I didn't believe the audio existed, a bluff swallowed by everyone one in
the room. But I can't now recall if the scene it supposedly portrayed
actually happened or if 'we' are supposed to know about it.
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959
Mike McMillan
2016-04-16 10:57:01 UTC
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Post by Penny
On 16 Apr 2016 09:21:11 GMT, Sally Thompson
Post by Sally Thompson
Post by LFS
Post by BrritSki
Post by Kate B
I thought he was being sympathetic and StS rather took advantage, but I
may be biased. What I don't understand is why we haven't heard Shula and
Lizzie make any mention of previous. I suppose we aren't seeing any of
the meaningful glances that may be flying about.
Or of course the archive-less SW's may simply have forgotten and in a
few weeks time we'll suddenly get a rash of allusions as they cotton on.
Dot Cotton on ?
The katest (TWATBILI and curiously appropriate) Line of Duty series is
excellent again innit ?
Quite brilliant.
S
P
O
I
L
E
R
I thought the scene with the horrible little ginger man from the
offenders management team was especially good and cheered when he got
his just deserts. The dialogue was particularly good.
I had a sudden thought about the vulnerability of arrogant men - he
reminded me of Rob...
Post by Sally Thompson
Oh yes! I guessed he might be getting more than he bargained for, but not
about the camera. (Nit pick: how could she afford the camera?)
Did anyone else have the stray thought that the scene where Lindsay
produced the "audio recording" was deliberately staged in cahoots with
Steve to flush out the baddy?
I didn't believe the audio existed, a bluff swallowed by everyone one in
the room. But I can't now recall if the scene it supposedly portrayed
actually happened or if 'we' are supposed to know about it.
Likewise.
--
Toodle Pip
BrritSki
2016-04-16 14:22:03 UTC
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Post by Penny
On 16 Apr 2016 09:21:11 GMT, Sally Thompson
Post by Sally Thompson
Post by LFS
Post by BrritSki
Post by Kate B
I thought he was being sympathetic and StS rather took advantage, but I
may be biased. What I don't understand is why we haven't heard Shula and
Lizzie make any mention of previous. I suppose we aren't seeing any of
the meaningful glances that may be flying about.
Or of course the archive-less SW's may simply have forgotten and in a
few weeks time we'll suddenly get a rash of allusions as they cotton on.
Dot Cotton on ?
The katest (TWATBILI and curiously appropriate) Line of Duty series is
excellent again innit ?
Quite brilliant.
S
P
O
I
L
E
R
I thought the scene with the horrible little ginger man from the
offenders management team was especially good and cheered when he got
his just deserts. The dialogue was particularly good.
I had a sudden thought about the vulnerability of arrogant men - he
reminded me of Rob...
Post by Sally Thompson
Oh yes! I guessed he might be getting more than he bargained for, but not
about the camera. (Nit pick: how could she afford the camera?)
Did anyone else have the stray thought that the scene where Lindsay
produced the "audio recording" was deliberately staged in cahoots with
Steve to flush out the baddy?
I didn't believe the audio existed, a bluff swallowed by everyone one in
the room. But I can't now recall if the scene it supposedly portrayed
actually happened or if 'we' are supposed to know about it.
I might have to dig out the DVD to check. Pretty sure there was no
cormoranting tho'.
Sally Thompson
2016-04-16 14:49:25 UTC
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Post by BrritSki
Post by Penny
On 16 Apr 2016 09:21:11 GMT, Sally Thompson
Post by Sally Thompson
Post by LFS
Post by BrritSki
Post by Kate B
I thought he was being sympathetic and StS rather took advantage, but I
may be biased. What I don't understand is why we haven't heard Shula and
Lizzie make any mention of previous. I suppose we aren't seeing any of
the meaningful glances that may be flying about.
Or of course the archive-less SW's may simply have forgotten and in a
few weeks time we'll suddenly get a rash of allusions as they cotton on.
Dot Cotton on ?
The katest (TWATBILI and curiously appropriate) Line of Duty series is
excellent again innit ?
Quite brilliant.
S
P
O
I
L
E
R
I thought the scene with the horrible little ginger man from the
offenders management team was especially good and cheered when he got
his just deserts. The dialogue was particularly good.
I had a sudden thought about the vulnerability of arrogant men - he
reminded me of Rob...
Post by Sally Thompson
Oh yes! I guessed he might be getting more than he bargained for, but not
about the camera. (Nit pick: how could she afford the camera?)
Did anyone else have the stray thought that the scene where Lindsay
produced the "audio recording" was deliberately staged in cahoots with
Steve to flush out the baddy?
I didn't believe the audio existed, a bluff swallowed by everyone one in
the room. But I can't now recall if the scene it supposedly portrayed
actually happened or if 'we' are supposed to know about it.
I might have to dig out the DVD to check. Pretty sure there was no
cormoranting tho'.
I don't remember any, but only vaguely remember the previous series, and
certainly can't be bothered to find it and watch it again! Well, I could be
bothered but there is only so much time in a day.
--
Sally in Shropshire, UK
Mike McMillan
2016-04-16 10:56:58 UTC
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Post by Sally Thompson
Post by LFS
Post by BrritSki
Post by Kate B
I thought he was being sympathetic and StS rather took advantage, but I
may be biased. What I don't understand is why we haven't heard Shula and
Lizzie make any mention of previous. I suppose we aren't seeing any of
the meaningful glances that may be flying about.
Or of course the archive-less SW's may simply have forgotten and in a
few weeks time we'll suddenly get a rash of allusions as they cotton on.
Dot Cotton on ?
The katest (TWATBILI and curiously appropriate) Line of Duty series is
excellent again innit ?
Quite brilliant.
S
P
O
I
L
E
R
I thought the scene with the horrible little ginger man from the
offenders management team was especially good and cheered when he got
his just deserts. The dialogue was particularly good.
Oh yes! I guessed he might be getting more than he bargained for, but not
about the camera. (Nit pick: how could she afford the camera?)
Did anyone else have the stray thought that the scene where Lindsay
produced the "audio recording" was deliberately staged in cahoots with
Steve to flush out the baddy?
Plenty of baddies to choose between too.
--
Toodle Pip
BrritSki
2016-04-16 14:20:46 UTC
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Post by Sally Thompson
Post by LFS
Post by BrritSki
Post by Kate B
I thought he was being sympathetic and StS rather took advantage, but I
may be biased. What I don't understand is why we haven't heard Shula and
Lizzie make any mention of previous. I suppose we aren't seeing any of
the meaningful glances that may be flying about.
Or of course the archive-less SW's may simply have forgotten and in a
few weeks time we'll suddenly get a rash of allusions as they cotton on.
Dot Cotton on ?
The katest (TWATBILI and curiously appropriate) Line of Duty series is
excellent again innit ?
Quite brilliant.
S
P
O
I
L
E
R
I thought the scene with the horrible little ginger man from the
offenders management team was especially good and cheered when he got
his just deserts. The dialogue was particularly good.
Oh yes! I guessed he might be getting more than he bargained for, but not
about the camera. (Nit pick: how could she afford the camera?)
Just a standard smartphone I think.
Post by Sally Thompson
Did anyone else have the stray thought that the scene where Lindsay
produced the "audio recording" was deliberately staged in cahoots with
Steve to flush out the baddy?
Anything's possible, but that may be a bit too unlikely.
She's obviously going to be key in unmasking the Caddy though.
krw
2016-04-16 19:56:10 UTC
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Post by BrritSki
Post by Sally Thompson
Post by LFS
Post by BrritSki
Post by Kate B
I thought he was being sympathetic and StS rather took advantage, but I
may be biased. What I don't understand is why we haven't heard Shula and
Lizzie make any mention of previous. I suppose we aren't seeing any of
the meaningful glances that may be flying about.
Or of course the archive-less SW's may simply have forgotten and in a
few weeks time we'll suddenly get a rash of allusions as they cotton on.
Dot Cotton on ?
The katest (TWATBILI and curiously appropriate) Line of Duty series is
excellent again innit ?
Quite brilliant.
S
P
O
I
L
E
R
I thought the scene with the horrible little ginger man from the
offenders management team was especially good and cheered when he got
his just deserts. The dialogue was particularly good.
Oh yes! I guessed he might be getting more than he bargained for, but not
about the camera. (Nit pick: how could she afford the camera?)
Just a standard smartphone I think.
Post by Sally Thompson
Did anyone else have the stray thought that the scene where Lindsay
produced the "audio recording" was deliberately staged in cahoots with
Steve to flush out the baddy?
Anything's possible, but that may be a bit too unlikely.
She's obviously going to be key in unmasking the Caddy though.
But the Caddy was identified in the last series as far as the viewer was
concerned.
--
Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
tiny.cc/KRWpics
BrritSki
2016-04-17 07:47:17 UTC
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Post by krw
Post by BrritSki
Post by Sally Thompson
Post by LFS
Post by BrritSki
Post by Kate B
I thought he was being sympathetic and StS rather took advantage, but I
may be biased. What I don't understand is why we haven't heard Shula and
Lizzie make any mention of previous. I suppose we aren't seeing any of
the meaningful glances that may be flying about.
Or of course the archive-less SW's may simply have forgotten and in a
few weeks time we'll suddenly get a rash of allusions as they cotton on.
Dot Cotton on ?
The katest (TWATBILI and curiously appropriate) Line of Duty series is
excellent again innit ?
Quite brilliant.
S
P
O
I
L
E
R
I thought the scene with the horrible little ginger man from the
offenders management team was especially good and cheered when he got
his just deserts. The dialogue was particularly good.
Oh yes! I guessed he might be getting more than he bargained for, but not
about the camera. (Nit pick: how could she afford the camera?)
Just a standard smartphone I think.
Post by Sally Thompson
Did anyone else have the stray thought that the scene where Lindsay
produced the "audio recording" was deliberately staged in cahoots with
Steve to flush out the baddy?
Anything's possible, but that may be a bit too unlikely.
She's obviously going to be key in unmasking the Caddy though.
But the Caddy was identified in the last series as far as the viewer was
concerned.
Duh !
Your specialist subject today, Statements of the Bleedin' Obvious ;)
Penny
2016-04-17 08:10:23 UTC
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scrawled in the dust...
Post by BrritSki
Post by krw
Post by BrritSki
Post by Sally Thompson
Post by LFS
Post by BrritSki
Post by Kate B
I thought he was being sympathetic and StS rather took advantage, but I
may be biased. What I don't understand is why we haven't heard Shula and
Lizzie make any mention of previous. I suppose we aren't seeing any of
the meaningful glances that may be flying about.
Or of course the archive-less SW's may simply have forgotten and in a
few weeks time we'll suddenly get a rash of allusions as they cotton on.
Dot Cotton on ?
The katest (TWATBILI and curiously appropriate) Line of Duty series is
excellent again innit ?
Quite brilliant.
S
P
O
I
L
E
R
I thought the scene with the horrible little ginger man from the
offenders management team was especially good and cheered when he got
his just deserts. The dialogue was particularly good.
Oh yes! I guessed he might be getting more than he bargained for, but not
about the camera. (Nit pick: how could she afford the camera?)
Just a standard smartphone I think.
Post by Sally Thompson
Did anyone else have the stray thought that the scene where Lindsay
produced the "audio recording" was deliberately staged in cahoots with
Steve to flush out the baddy?
Anything's possible, but that may be a bit too unlikely.
She's obviously going to be key in unmasking the Caddy though.
But the Caddy was identified in the last series as far as the viewer was
concerned.
Duh !
Your specialist subject today, Statements of the Bleedin' Obvious ;)
Surely the Caddy was misidentified in the last series?
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959
Sally Thompson
2016-04-17 08:59:55 UTC
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Post by Penny
scrawled in the dust...
Post by BrritSki
Post by krw
Post by BrritSki
Post by Sally Thompson
Post by LFS
Post by BrritSki
Post by Kate B
I thought he was being sympathetic and StS rather took advantage, but I
may be biased. What I don't understand is why we haven't heard Shula and
Lizzie make any mention of previous. I suppose we aren't seeing any of
the meaningful glances that may be flying about.
Or of course the archive-less SW's may simply have forgotten and in a
few weeks time we'll suddenly get a rash of allusions as they cotton on.
Dot Cotton on ?
The katest (TWATBILI and curiously appropriate) Line of Duty series is
excellent again innit ?
Quite brilliant.
S
P
O
I
L
E
R
I thought the scene with the horrible little ginger man from the
offenders management team was especially good and cheered when he got
his just deserts. The dialogue was particularly good.
Oh yes! I guessed he might be getting more than he bargained for, but not
about the camera. (Nit pick: how could she afford the camera?)
Just a standard smartphone I think.
Post by Sally Thompson
Did anyone else have the stray thought that the scene where Lindsay
produced the "audio recording" was deliberately staged in cahoots with
Steve to flush out the baddy?
Anything's possible, but that may be a bit too unlikely.
She's obviously going to be key in unmasking the Caddy though.
But the Caddy was identified in the last series as far as the viewer was
concerned.
Duh !
Your specialist subject today, Statements of the Bleedin' Obvious ;)
Surely the Caddy was misidentified in the last series?
Not to the viewer, only to the characters.
--
Sally in Shropshire, UK
BrritSki
2016-04-17 09:25:45 UTC
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Post by Penny
scrawled in the dust...
Post by BrritSki
Post by krw
Post by BrritSki
Post by Sally Thompson
Post by LFS
Post by BrritSki
Post by Kate B
I thought he was being sympathetic and StS rather took advantage, but I
may be biased. What I don't understand is why we haven't heard Shula and
Lizzie make any mention of previous. I suppose we aren't seeing any of
the meaningful glances that may be flying about.
Or of course the archive-less SW's may simply have forgotten and in a
few weeks time we'll suddenly get a rash of allusions as they cotton on.
Dot Cotton on ?
The katest (TWATBILI and curiously appropriate) Line of Duty series is
excellent again innit ?
Quite brilliant.
S
P
O
I
L
E
R
I thought the scene with the horrible little ginger man from the
offenders management team was especially good and cheered when he got
his just deserts. The dialogue was particularly good.
Oh yes! I guessed he might be getting more than he bargained for, but not
about the camera. (Nit pick: how could she afford the camera?)
Just a standard smartphone I think.
Post by Sally Thompson
Did anyone else have the stray thought that the scene where Lindsay
produced the "audio recording" was deliberately staged in cahoots with
Steve to flush out the baddy?
Anything's possible, but that may be a bit too unlikely.
She's obviously going to be key in unmasking the Caddy though.
But the Caddy was identified in the last series as far as the viewer was
concerned.
Duh !
Your specialist subject today, Statements of the Bleedin' Obvious ;)
Surely the Caddy was misidentified in the last series?
Misidentified to AC12 but we viewers know who it is really.
krw
2016-04-17 11:07:00 UTC
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Post by BrritSki
Post by Penny
scrawled in the dust...
Post by BrritSki
Post by krw
Post by BrritSki
Post by Sally Thompson
Post by LFS
Post by BrritSki
Post by Kate B
I thought he was being sympathetic and StS rather took advantage, but I
may be biased. What I don't understand is why we haven't heard Shula and
Lizzie make any mention of previous. I suppose we aren't seeing any of
the meaningful glances that may be flying about.
Or of course the archive-less SW's may simply have forgotten and in a
few weeks time we'll suddenly get a rash of allusions as they cotton on.
Dot Cotton on ?
The katest (TWATBILI and curiously appropriate) Line of Duty series is
excellent again innit ?
Quite brilliant.
S
P
O
I
L
E
R
I thought the scene with the horrible little ginger man from the
offenders management team was especially good and cheered when he got
his just deserts. The dialogue was particularly good.
Oh yes! I guessed he might be getting more than he bargained for, but not
about the camera. (Nit pick: how could she afford the camera?)
Just a standard smartphone I think.
Post by Sally Thompson
Did anyone else have the stray thought that the scene where Lindsay
produced the "audio recording" was deliberately staged in cahoots with
Steve to flush out the baddy?
Anything's possible, but that may be a bit too unlikely.
She's obviously going to be key in unmasking the Caddy though.
But the Caddy was identified in the last series as far as the viewer was
concerned.
Duh !
Your specialist subject today, Statements of the Bleedin' Obvious ;)
Surely the Caddy was misidentified in the last series?
Misidentified to AC12 but we viewers know who it is really.
I will get round to watching it but there is a bit of backlog in this
establishment at the moment.

Did anyone watch Lucky Man and was it worth it or should I press delete?
--
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Mike McMillan
2016-04-16 10:56:55 UTC
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Post by LFS
Post by BrritSki
Post by Kate B
I thought he was being sympathetic and StS rather took advantage, but I
may be biased. What I don't understand is why we haven't heard Shula and
Lizzie make any mention of previous. I suppose we aren't seeing any of
the meaningful glances that may be flying about.
Or of course the archive-less SW's may simply have forgotten and in a
few weeks time we'll suddenly get a rash of allusions as they cotton on.
Dot Cotton on ?
The katest (TWATBILI and curiously appropriate) Line of Duty series is
excellent again innit ?
Quite brilliant.
S
P
O
I
L
E
R
I thought the scene with the horrible little ginger man from the
offenders management team was especially good and cheered when he got
his just deserts. The dialogue was particularly good.
Still a spoiler.






.




.



.


I am unsure what took place in the 'trouser are' but I don' think he
expected it to be that painful! Now.... If only that had been Rob....
--
Toodle Pip
Penny
2016-04-16 11:11:02 UTC
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On Sat, 16 Apr 2016 10:56:55 GMT, Mike McMillan
Post by Mike McMillan
Post by LFS
Post by BrritSki
Post by Kate B
I thought he was being sympathetic and StS rather took advantage, but I
may be biased. What I don't understand is why we haven't heard Shula and
Lizzie make any mention of previous. I suppose we aren't seeing any of
the meaningful glances that may be flying about.
Or of course the archive-less SW's may simply have forgotten and in a
few weeks time we'll suddenly get a rash of allusions as they cotton on.
Dot Cotton on ?
The katest (TWATBILI and curiously appropriate) Line of Duty series is
excellent again innit ?
Quite brilliant.
S
P
O
I
L
E
R
I thought the scene with the horrible little ginger man from the
offenders management team was especially good and cheered when he got
his just deserts. The dialogue was particularly good.
Still a spoiler.
.
.
.
I am unsure what took place in the 'trouser are' but I don' think he
expected it to be that painful! Now.... If only that had been Rob....
Graham Norton played the entire selection of noises Keely Hawes recorded as
the voice of Lara Croft last night, much to her embarrassment. I feel they
could have used a few in that scene.
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2016-04-17 11:04:15 UTC
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In message <XToQy.1304842$***@fx36.am4>, Mike McMillan
<***@ntlworld.com> writes:
[]
Post by Mike McMillan
Still a spoiler.
.
.
.
I am unsure what took place in the 'trouser are' but I don' think he
expected it to be that painful! Now.... If only that had been Rob....
I'm unfamiliar with the drama in question, but if the suggestion is that
it would have been good had Rob been castrated, I fear that might not
have made him any better: until then his drive seems to have been at
least _partly_ to do some begetting. If that reason/possibility had been
removed, he'd have been left with no interest/aim in life _other_ than
to further his coercive control etcetera ...

Of course, depending on the injury - there is evidence that reduced
levels of testosterone _can_ improve a person's character, in some ways.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)***@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

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BrritSki
2016-04-16 14:18:22 UTC
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Post by LFS
Post by BrritSki
Post by Kate B
I thought he was being sympathetic and StS rather took advantage, but I
may be biased. What I don't understand is why we haven't heard Shula and
Lizzie make any mention of previous. I suppose we aren't seeing any of
the meaningful glances that may be flying about.
Or of course the archive-less SW's may simply have forgotten and in a
few weeks time we'll suddenly get a rash of allusions as they cotton on.
Dot Cotton on ?
The katest (TWATBILI and curiously appropriate) Line of Duty series is
excellent again innit ?
Quite brilliant.
S
P
O
I
L
E
R
I thought the scene with the horrible little ginger man from the
offenders management team was especially good and cheered when he got
his just deserts. The dialogue was particularly good.
<languid wave>
Mike McMillan
2016-04-16 10:56:53 UTC
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Post by BrritSki
Post by Kate B
I thought he was being sympathetic and StS rather took advantage, but I
may be biased. What I don't understand is why we haven't heard Shula and
Lizzie make any mention of previous. I suppose we aren't seeing any of
the meaningful glances that may be flying about.
Or of course the archive-less SW's may simply have forgotten and in a
few weeks time we'll suddenly get a rash of allusions as they cotton on.
Dot Cotton on ?
The katest (TWATBILI and curiously appropriate) Line of Duty series is
excellent again innit ?
Seems to me that if any of the main character are as pure as the driven
snow... We ain't heard from them yet!
--
Toodle Pip
krw
2016-04-16 19:58:35 UTC
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Post by Kate B
I am trying to remember what happened with Dr Locke and Shula, and it is
all very confused because Alan the Vicar and Richard the Doctor both
sound exactly the same (so that I had no idea who was talking to Susan
in the shop tonight, for instance). What I think I remember is that
Richard and Usha were an item, and actually living together (in Blossom
Hill Cottage?), when Shula muscled in on the game and seduced him.
So what happened next, and why is there not a scintilla of recognition
of this in the current dialogues between Richard and Shula, or Shula and
Lizzie, or even Richard and Lizzie? Did Lizzie know?
Listening again this evening I noted the warm greeting between Lizzie
and DDD. Given the history (and that he was at one point the family
doctor) would you greet an ex-lover of your sister that warmly in front
of her?

Or am I old fashioned?
--
Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
tiny.cc/KRWpics
Serena Blanchflower
2016-04-16 20:07:00 UTC
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Post by krw
Post by Kate B
I am trying to remember what happened with Dr Locke and Shula, and it is
all very confused because Alan the Vicar and Richard the Doctor both
sound exactly the same (so that I had no idea who was talking to Susan
in the shop tonight, for instance). What I think I remember is that
Richard and Usha were an item, and actually living together (in Blossom
Hill Cottage?), when Shula muscled in on the game and seduced him.
So what happened next, and why is there not a scintilla of recognition
of this in the current dialogues between Richard and Shula, or Shula and
Lizzie, or even Richard and Lizzie? Did Lizzie know?
Listening again this evening I noted the warm greeting between Lizzie
and DDD. Given the history (and that he was at one point the family
doctor) would you greet an ex-lover of your sister that warmly in front
of her?
Or am I old fashioned?
Don't forget that Lizzie married another ex-lover of Shula's.
--
Best wishes, Serena
The greatest glory of living lies not in never falling but in rising
every time you fall. (Nelson Mandela)
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2016-04-17 11:06:27 UTC
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Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by krw
Listening again this evening I noted the warm greeting between Lizzie
Yes, Lizzie (Alison) _can_, on occasion, have fruitiness approaching
Lilian's.
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by krw
and DDD. Given the history (and that he was at one point the family
doctor) would you greet an ex-lover of your sister that warmly in front
of her?
Or am I old fashioned?
Don't forget that Lizzie married another ex-lover of Shula's.
Good point. Though was that after Shula had married tree-fellow or
Al*stair (and thus Nigel could be considered "available")? I can't
remember.
--
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Serena Blanchflower
2016-04-17 11:44:25 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
[]
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by krw
Listening again this evening I noted the warm greeting between Lizzie
Yes, Lizzie (Alison) _can_, on occasion, have fruitiness approaching
Lilian's.
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by krw
and DDD. Given the history (and that he was at one point the family
doctor) would you greet an ex-lover of your sister that warmly in front
of her?
Or am I old fashioned?
Don't forget that Lizzie married another ex-lover of Shula's.
Good point. Though was that after Shula had married tree-fellow or
Al*stair (and thus Nigel could be considered "available")? I can't
remember.
And, this time, not only is Shula still married to Snappy (even if he is
living up to his nickname more than he used to) but Richard has both
married and divorced since then, while Lizzie has been widowed. This
means that both Lizzie and Richard could be considered available, while
Shula shouldn't be.
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Best wishes, Serena
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, because you are crunchy and
taste good with ketchup.
krw
2016-04-17 11:08:03 UTC
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Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by krw
Post by Kate B
I am trying to remember what happened with Dr Locke and Shula, and it is
all very confused because Alan the Vicar and Richard the Doctor both
sound exactly the same (so that I had no idea who was talking to Susan
in the shop tonight, for instance). What I think I remember is that
Richard and Usha were an item, and actually living together (in Blossom
Hill Cottage?), when Shula muscled in on the game and seduced him.
So what happened next, and why is there not a scintilla of recognition
of this in the current dialogues between Richard and Shula, or Shula and
Lizzie, or even Richard and Lizzie? Did Lizzie know?
Listening again this evening I noted the warm greeting between Lizzie
and DDD. Given the history (and that he was at one point the family
doctor) would you greet an ex-lover of your sister that warmly in front
of her?
Or am I old fashioned?
Don't forget that Lizzie married another ex-lover of Shula's.
I didn't think that Shula and Nigel ever cormoranted. But I could be wrong.
--
Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
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J. P. Gilliver (John)
2016-04-17 11:29:58 UTC
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Post by krw
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by krw
Post by Kate B
I am trying to remember what happened with Dr Locke and Shula, and it is
all very confused because Alan the Vicar and Richard the Doctor both
sound exactly the same (so that I had no idea who was talking to Susan
in the shop tonight, for instance). What I think I remember is that
Richard and Usha were an item, and actually living together (in Blossom
Hill Cottage?), when Shula muscled in on the game and seduced him.
So what happened next, and why is there not a scintilla of recognition
of this in the current dialogues between Richard and Shula, or Shula and
Lizzie, or even Richard and Lizzie? Did Lizzie know?
Listening again this evening I noted the warm greeting between Lizzie
and DDD. Given the history (and that he was at one point the family
doctor) would you greet an ex-lover of your sister that warmly in front
of her?
Or am I old fashioned?
Don't forget that Lizzie married another ex-lover of Shula's.
I didn't think that Shula and Nigel ever cormoranted. But I could be wrong.
I think you're right (though one can only assume there was at least the
intention on his part, at the time of the bedroom window incident!);
but, in those more innocent days, they were definitely approaching being
"an item", I'd say. (But I _think_ Shula had definitely gone elsewhere -
possibly twice - long before Nigel and Lizzie came together*.)

*And no, I didn't mean in that way.
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krw
2016-04-17 16:35:01 UTC
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(But I _think_ Shula had definitely gone elsewhere - possibly twice -
long before Nigel and Lizzie came together*.)
Shula regularly seemed to change partners.
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BrritSki
2016-04-17 20:06:17 UTC
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Post by krw
(But I _think_ Shula had definitely gone elsewhere - possibly twice -
long before Nigel and Lizzie came together*.)
Shula regularly seemed to change partners.
99 change farmhands ?

Serena Blanchflower
2016-04-17 11:45:40 UTC
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Post by krw
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by krw
Post by Kate B
I am trying to remember what happened with Dr Locke and Shula, and it is
all very confused because Alan the Vicar and Richard the Doctor both
sound exactly the same (so that I had no idea who was talking to Susan
in the shop tonight, for instance). What I think I remember is that
Richard and Usha were an item, and actually living together (in Blossom
Hill Cottage?), when Shula muscled in on the game and seduced him.
So what happened next, and why is there not a scintilla of recognition
of this in the current dialogues between Richard and Shula, or Shula and
Lizzie, or even Richard and Lizzie? Did Lizzie know?
Listening again this evening I noted the warm greeting between Lizzie
and DDD. Given the history (and that he was at one point the family
doctor) would you greet an ex-lover of your sister that warmly in front
of her?
Or am I old fashioned?
Don't forget that Lizzie married another ex-lover of Shula's.
I didn't think that Shula and Nigel ever cormoranted. But I could be wrong.
My assumption was that they did, although never on-air.
--
Best wishes, Serena
Q. What's the best birthday present for a little boy?
A. Well a drum takes a lot of beating!
Jenny M Benson
2016-04-17 14:50:31 UTC
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Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by krw
I didn't think that Shula and Nigel ever cormoranted. But I could be wrong.
My assumption was that they did, although never on-air.
Very difficult to make the earth move when you're floating.
--
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