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Chris McMillan
2018-05-18 18:10:44 UTC
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Rotflmao. This has to be listened to. More than hilarious!

Sincerely Chris
LFS
2018-05-19 05:05:52 UTC
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Rotflmao. This has to be listened to. More than hilarious!
Really? I thought it was entirely out of character for both, and very
unfunny.
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Mike
2018-05-19 07:12:19 UTC
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Rotflmao. This has to be listened to. More than hilarious!
Really? I thought it was entirely out of character for both, and very
unfunny.
And I thought it was a waste of 12 minutes (plus music intro and outtrow of
course).
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Vicky Ayech
2018-05-19 08:11:43 UTC
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Rotflmao. This has to be listened to. More than hilarious!
Really? I thought it was entirely out of character for both, and very
unfunny.
What was for who? I have listened but am not sure which interaction.
Penny
2018-05-19 11:06:00 UTC
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Rotflmao. This has to be listened to. More than hilarious!
Really? I thought it was entirely out of character for both, and very
unfunny.
What was for who? I have listened but am not sure which interaction.
Presumably the elder flower gathering. I've never gathered elderflowers
from a climbable tree.
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Mike
2018-05-19 11:11:17 UTC
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Rotflmao. This has to be listened to. More than hilarious!
Really? I thought it was entirely out of character for both, and very
unfunny.
What was for who? I have listened but am not sure which interaction.
Presumably the elder flower gathering. I've never gathered elderflowers
from a climbable tree.
Wouldn’t the younger flowers be sweeter? ;-))
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Vicky Ayech
2018-05-19 12:58:04 UTC
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Rotflmao. This has to be listened to. More than hilarious!
Really? I thought it was entirely out of character for both, and very
unfunny.
What was for who? I have listened but am not sure which interaction.
Presumably the elder flower gathering. I've never gathered elderflowers
from a climbable tree.
Wouldn’t the younger flowers be sweeter? ;-))
Bah! Humbug! Rubbish scene. I didn't like the new Frillies
storylines either.
Mike
2018-05-19 13:01:03 UTC
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Rotflmao. This has to be listened to. More than hilarious!
Really? I thought it was entirely out of character for both, and very
unfunny.
What was for who? I have listened but am not sure which interaction.
Presumably the elder flower gathering. I've never gathered elderflowers
from a climbable tree.
Wouldn’t the younger flowers be sweeter? ;-))
Bah! Humbug! Rubbish scene. I didn't like the new Frillies
storylines either.
Nor me :(
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J. P. Gilliver (John)
2018-05-19 13:10:53 UTC
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Bah! Humbug! Rubbish scene. I didn't like the new Frillies
storylines either.
Nor me :(
Nor me. But I find it believable )-:, and it is certainly going to
continue )-: )-:.
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Vicky Ayech
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Bah! Humbug! Rubbish scene. I didn't like the new Frillies
storylines either.
Nor me :(
Nor me. But I find it believable )-:, and it is certainly going to
continue )-: )-:.
Lily wants a father substitute? I think that is believable and those
unsuitable romances do happen. Risky for the tutor though.
Mike
2018-05-19 18:44:29 UTC
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Bah! Humbug! Rubbish scene. I didn't like the new Frillies
storylines either.
Nor me :(
Nor me. But I find it believable )-:, and it is certainly going to
continue )-: )-:.
Lily wants a father substitute? I think that is believable and those
unsuitable romances do happen. Risky for the tutor though.
Downright suicidal I’d say!
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J. P. Gilliver (John)
2018-05-19 23:06:41 UTC
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Bah! Humbug! Rubbish scene. I didn't like the new Frillies
storylines either.
Nor me :(
Nor me. But I find it believable )-:, and it is certainly going to
continue )-: )-:.
Lily wants a father substitute? I think that is believable and those
Ah, I meant the drug wars (for want of a better description) aspect. I
didn't think too much of the Lily/Tutor aspect.
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unsuitable romances do happen. Risky for the tutor though.
Downright suicidal I’d say!
Indeed; it's, genuinely, one of the things that put me off teaching.
[Thought of - unsubstantiated, not like this case - allegations.]
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Mike
2018-05-20 08:50:16 UTC
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Bah! Humbug! Rubbish scene. I didn't like the new Frillies
storylines either.
Nor me :(
Nor me. But I find it believable )-:, and it is certainly going to
continue )-: )-:.
Lily wants a father substitute? I think that is believable and those
Ah, I meant the drug wars (for want of a better description) aspect. I
didn't think too much of the Lily/Tutor aspect.
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unsuitable romances do happen. Risky for the tutor though.
Downright suicidal I’d say!
Indeed; it's, genuinely, one of the things that put me off teaching.
[Thought of - unsubstantiated, not like this case - allegations.]
I’ve heard it said that the one sackable offence in Academia is poking the
Principle’s daughter - twice.
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Sid Nuncius
2018-05-20 09:21:48 UTC
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I’ve heard it said that the one sackable offence in Academia is poking the
Principle’s daughter - twice.
Would that be the daughter of the Peter Principle?

You might get away with it due to the Principle of Universal Doubt, of
course.

(In Educating Rita, Frank claims that "No, for dismissal it would have
to be nothing less than buggering the Bursar.")[1]

[1]I trust that unumratic vocabulary will be excused in the interests of
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Btms
2018-05-20 09:48:22 UTC
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I’ve heard it said that the one sackable offence in Academia is poking the
Principle’s daughter - twice.
Would that be the daughter of the Peter Principle?
You might get away with it due to the Principle of Universal Doubt, of
course.
(In Educating Rita, Frank claims that "No, for dismissal it would have
to be nothing less than buggering the Bursar.")[1]
[1]I trust that unumratic vocabulary will be excused in the interests of
quotational exactitude.
Absolutely excused. ‘Cept thinking about it, I guess it may have been
permitted at Cambridge. *

* Using past tense as I am sure nobody cares now.
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2018-05-20 12:04:24 UTC
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I’ve heard it said that the one sackable offence in Academia is poking the
Principle’s daughter - twice.
Would that be the daughter of the Peter Principle?
You might get away with it due to the Principle of Universal Doubt, of
course.
(In Educating Rita, Frank claims that "No, for dismissal it would have
to be nothing less than buggering the Bursar.")[1]
[1]I trust that unumratic vocabulary will be excused in the interests of
quotational exactitude.
Absolutely excused. ‘Cept thinking about it, I guess it may have been
permitted at Cambridge. *
What? Buggering the Bursar is/was permitted?
* Using past tense as I am sure nobody cares now.
As long as it's not compulsory.
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BrritSki
2018-05-20 12:15:26 UTC
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I’ve heard it said that the one sackable offence in Academia is poking the
Principle’s daughter - twice.
Would that be the daughter of the Peter Principle?
You might get away with it due to the Principle of Universal Doubt, of
course.
(In Educating Rita, Frank claims that "No, for dismissal it would have
to be nothing less than buggering the Bursar.")[1]
[1]I trust that unumratic vocabulary will be excused in the interests of
quotational exactitude.
Absolutely excused. ‘Cept thinking about it, I guess it may have been
permitted at Cambridge.
Permitted ? I thought it was mandatory !
Sam Plusnet
2018-05-20 21:57:32 UTC
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I’ve heard it said that the one sackable offence in Academia is poking the
Principle’s daughter - twice.
Would that be the daughter of the Peter Principle?
You might get away with it due to the Principle of Universal Doubt, of
course.
(In Educating Rita, Frank claims that "No, for dismissal it would have
to be nothing less than buggering the Bursar.")[1]
[1]I trust that unumratic vocabulary will be excused in the interests of
quotational exactitude.
Absolutely excused.  ‘Cept thinking about it, I guess it may have been
permitted at Cambridge.
Permitted ?  I thought it was mandatory !
You had to take him out on a date first?
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Mike
2018-05-20 10:45:26 UTC
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I’ve heard it said that the one sackable offence in Academia is poking the
Principle’s daughter - twice.
Would that be the daughter of the Peter Principle?
You might get away with it due to the Principle of Universal Doubt, of
course.
(In Educating Rita, Frank claims that "No, for dismissal it would have
to be nothing less than buggering the Bursar.")[1]
[1]I trust that unumratic vocabulary will be excused in the interests of
quotational exactitude.
I knew as I wrote I had the rong one!
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LFS
2018-05-20 11:17:35 UTC
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Bah! Humbug!  Rubbish scene.  I didn't like the new Frillies
storylines either.
Nor me :(
Nor me. But I find it believable )-:, and it is certainly going to
continue )-: )-:.
Lily wants a father substitute? I think that is believable and those
Ah, I meant the drug wars (for want of a better description) aspect. I
didn't think too much of the Lily/Tutor aspect.
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Post by Vicky Ayech
unsuitable romances do happen. Risky for the tutor though.
Downright suicidal I’d say!
Indeed; it's, genuinely, one of the things that put me off teaching.
[Thought of - unsubstantiated, not like this case - allegations.]
David Mamet wrote a play about it, I've forgotten the title.
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krw
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But I find it believable
Cannot agree. No vice principal would indulge in a vice.
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2018-05-20 16:18:06 UTC
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But I find it believable
Cannot agree. No vice principal would indulge in a vice.
On principle?
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J. P. Gilliver (John)
2018-05-20 16:20:48 UTC
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But I find it believable
Cannot agree. No vice principal would indulge in a vice.
On principle?
(You beat me to it.) I meant I found the drug wars plotline believable
(though not from experience, just other dramas). The Lily one I'm not so
sure about - probably as believable though.
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But I find it believable
Cannot agree. No vice principal would indulge in a vice.
If it's a plotline about students and tutors having a relationship,
it's really not believable at all these days. There are soooooooooo
many rules about appropriate behaviour and ALL staff will have had
more training on it than it is possible to forget. Pretty much any
physical contact with students, unless it's with those who have some
form of disability, is heavily discouraged. Not that there's any
desire to touch most of them!
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Mike
2018-05-20 17:36:58 UTC
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But I find it believable
Cannot agree. No vice principal would indulge in a vice.
If it's a plotline about students and tutors having a relationship,
it's really not believable at all these days. There are soooooooooo
many rules about appropriate behaviour and ALL staff will have had
more training on it than it is possible to forget. Pretty much any
physical contact with students, unless it's with those who have some
form of disability, is heavily discouraged. Not that there's any
desire to touch most of them!
And anyway, isn’t it plot recycling? We had a somewhat unconventional
academic involved with an Archer’s female some years back didn’t we?
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2018-05-20 17:40:55 UTC
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But I find it believable
Cannot agree. No vice principal would indulge in a vice.
If it's a plotline about students and tutors having a relationship,
it's really not believable at all these days. There are soooooooooo
many rules about appropriate behaviour and ALL staff will have had
more training on it than it is possible to forget. Pretty much any
physical contact with students, unless it's with those who have some
form of disability, is heavily discouraged. Not that there's any
desire to touch most of them!
And anyway, isn’t it plot recycling? We had a somewhat unconventional
academic involved with an Archer’s female some years back didn’t we?
And as I recall the academic may have been a Canadian
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krw
2018-05-20 21:11:33 UTC
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But I find it believable
Cannot agree. No vice principal would indulge in a vice.
If it's a plotline about students and tutors having a relationship,
it's really not believable at all these days. There are soooooooooo
many rules about appropriate behaviour and ALL staff will have had
more training on it than it is possible to forget. Pretty much any
physical contact with students, unless it's with those who have some
form of disability, is heavily discouraged. Not that there's any
desire to touch most of them!
And anyway, isn’t it plot recycling? We had a somewhat unconventional
academic involved with an Archer’s female some years back didn’t we?
And as I recall the academic may have been a Canadian
And eventually married, then he repeated the sin with another student
and they divorced. Female Aldridge popped off to Hungary.
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John Finlay
2018-05-21 14:39:45 UTC
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But I find it believable
Cannot agree.  No vice principal would indulge in a vice.
If it's a plotline about students and tutors having a relationship,
it's really not believable at all these days.  There are soooooooooo
many rules about appropriate behaviour and ALL staff will have had
more training on it than it is possible to forget.  Pretty much any
physical contact with students, unless it's with those who have some
form of disability, is heavily discouraged.  Not that there's any
desire to touch most of them!
And anyway, isn’t it plot recycling? We had a somewhat unconventional
academic involved with an Archer’s female some years back didn’t we?
And as I recall the academic may have been a Canadian
And eventually married, then he repeated the sin with another student
and they divorced.  Female Aldridge popped off to Hungary.
We've already had the young girl/unsuitable older man plotline with the
vicar's daughter haven't we? A midwife if I remember. (Although she
seems to have fallen off the face of Borsetshire).
Chris McMillan
2018-05-21 15:27:44 UTC
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But I find it believable
Cannot agree.  No vice principal would indulge in a vice.
If it's a plotline about students and tutors having a relationship,
it's really not believable at all these days.  There are soooooooooo
many rules about appropriate behaviour and ALL staff will have had
more training on it than it is possible to forget.  Pretty much any
physical contact with students, unless it's with those who have some
form of disability, is heavily discouraged.  Not that there's any
desire to touch most of them!
And anyway, isn’t it plot recycling? We had a somewhat unconventional
academic involved with an Archer’s female some years back didn’t we?
And as I recall the academic may have been a Canadian
And eventually married, then he repeated the sin with another student
and they divorced.  Female Aldridge popped off to Hungary.
We've already had the young girl/unsuitable older man plotline with the
vicar's daughter haven't we? A midwife if I remember. (Although she
seems to have fallen off the face of Borsetshire).
Amy, daughter of Alan. But I don’t remember unsuitable romancing.

Sincerely Chris
krw
2018-05-26 12:27:24 UTC
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Amy, daughter of Alan. But I don’t remember unsuitable romancing.
There was - was it AmEx as part of the experiment to appeal to younger
people?
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Amy, daughter of Alan.  But I don’t remember unsuitable romancing.
There was - was it AmEx as part of the experiment to appeal to younger
people?
I don't think it was. AFAIR, it was not long after Alan and Usha had
married and Amy had taken against having Usha as her step-mother but was
living with them, so things were fairly uncomfortable. She then fell in
love with an unsuitable chap; I can't remember how old he was but he was
married (I don't think Amy knew this, at least at first). It was Usha
who picked up the pieces, when things went pear-shaped and this
reconciled Amy to the idea of having Usha as a step-mother.
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Amy, daughter of Alan.  But I don’t remember unsuitable romancing.
There was - was it AmEx as part of the experiment to appeal to younger
people?
I don't think it was.  AFAIR, it was not long after Alan and Usha had
married and Amy had taken against having Usha as her step-mother but was
living with them, so things were fairly uncomfortable.  She then fell in
love with an unsuitable chap; I can't remember how old he was but he was
married (I don't think Amy knew this, at least at first).  It was Usha
who picked up the pieces, when things went pear-shaped and this
reconciled Amy to the idea of having Usha as a step-mother.
Reads as familiar. Not shown in any of the Who's Who I have to hand so
post 2010.
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2018-05-21 15:27:43 UTC
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But I find it believable
Cannot agree. No vice principal would indulge in a vice.
If it's a plotline about students and tutors having a relationship,
it's really not believable at all these days. There are soooooooooo
many rules about appropriate behaviour and ALL staff will have had
more training on it than it is possible to forget. Pretty much any
physical contact with students, unless it's with those who have some
form of disability, is heavily discouraged. Not that there's any
desire to touch most of them!
And anyway, isn’t it plot recycling? We had a somewhat unconventional
academic involved with an Archer’s female some years back didn’t we?
Dobbie and her Canadian

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But I find it believable
Cannot agree. No vice principal would indulge in a vice.
If it's a plotline about students and tutors having a relationship,
it's really not believable at all these days. There are soooooooooo
many rules about appropriate behaviour and ALL staff will have had
more training on it than it is possible to forget. Pretty much any
physical contact with students, unless it's with those who have some
form of disability, is heavily discouraged. Not that there's any
desire to touch most of them!
Dunno.

I've seen Marlene Dietrich in The Blue Angel, and that Professor seem to
lose his head over a pretty girl.

(OK, she wasn't actually one of his students, but still.)
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If it's a plotline about students and tutors having a relationship,
it's really not believable at all these days.  There are soooooooooo
many rules about appropriate behaviour and ALL staff will have had
more training on it than it is possible to forget.
Out of interest, try Google with 'Teacher+pupil+sex' (UK only; limit to
last month).

The number of court cases is staggering.

I was also surprised by the number of female teachers with male pupils.
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I was also surprised by the number of female teachers with male pupils. 
Well, it worked out alright for Mme Macron!

Rosemary
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I was also surprised by the number of female teachers with male pupils.
Well, it worked out alright for Mme Macron!
LOL
Vicky Ayech
2018-05-21 10:45:24 UTC
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If it's a plotline about students and tutors having a relationship,
it's really not believable at all these days.  There are soooooooooo
many rules about appropriate behaviour and ALL staff will have had
more training on it than it is possible to forget.
Out of interest, try Google with 'Teacher+pupil+sex' (UK only; limit to
last month).
The number of court cases is staggering.
I was also surprised by the number of female teachers with male pupils.
I did google and one case "Deborah Lowe was acquitted at Manchester
Crown Court of five counts of sexual activity with a child by a person
in a position of trust." But that was school. Would it apply to Lily
and college? How old is she? I know I ask weekly but we already
established I am one of those annoying old women!
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I did google and one case "Deborah Lowe was acquitted at Manchester
Crown Court of five counts of sexual activity with a child by a person
in a position of trust." But that was school. Would it apply to Lily
and college? How old is she? I know I ask weekly but we already
established I am one of those annoying old women!
She's 18, so it's not illegal for her to be in a relationship with a
lecturer but he would be likely to lose his job over it if/when it
becomes public knowledge.
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in a position of trust." But that was school. Would it apply to Lily
and college? How old is she? I know I ask weekly but we already
Thanks to the person who answered that.
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established I am one of those annoying old women!
Who is this "we"? I haven't established that!
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Penny
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If it's a plotline about students and tutors having a relationship,
it's really not believable at all these days.  There are soooooooooo
many rules about appropriate behaviour and ALL staff will have had
more training on it than it is possible to forget.
Out of interest, try Google with 'Teacher+pupil+sex' (UK only; limit to
last month).
The number of court cases is staggering.
I was also surprised by the number of female teachers with male pupils.
A peripatetic music teacher of my acquaintance had a lengthy relationship
with one of her ex-pupils. His parents tried to sue the music school and/or
my friend but as they waited until he was over 16 and was no longer her
pupil it didn't get them anywhere.
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2018-05-21 11:03:20 UTC
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If it's a plotline about students and tutors having a relationship,
it's really not believable at all these days.  There are soooooooooo
many rules about appropriate behaviour and ALL staff will have had
more training on it than it is possible to forget.
Out of interest, try Google with 'Teacher+pupil+sex' (UK only; limit to
last month).
The number of court cases is staggering.
I was also surprised by the number of female teachers with male pupils.
A peripatetic music teacher of my acquaintance had a lengthy relationship
with one of her ex-pupils. His parents tried to sue the music school and/or
my friend but as they waited until he was over 16 and was no longer her
pupil it didn't get them anywhere.
ITYWF that Jim is well over sixteen years of age!
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2018-05-21 16:37:08 UTC
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If it's a plotline about students and tutors having a relationship,
it's really not believable at all these days. There are soooooooooo
many rules about appropriate behaviour and ALL staff will have had
more training on it than it is possible to forget. Pretty much any
Keri has said on twitter the story has a long way to run.
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2018-05-21 17:33:48 UTC
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If it's a plotline about students and tutors having a relationship,
it's really not believable at all these days.  There are soooooooooo
many rules about appropriate behaviour and ALL staff will have had
more training on it than it is possible to forget.  Pretty much any
Keri has said on twitter the story has a long way to run.
Oh, thanks. That's my earworm for the rest of the day:


I could do a lot worse for an earworm, mind you.
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2018-05-22 20:27:40 UTC
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If it's a plotline about students and tutors having a relationship,
it's really not believable at all these days.  There are soooooooooo
many rules about appropriate behaviour and ALL staff will have had
more training on it than it is possible to forget.  Pretty much any
Keri has said on twitter the story has a long way to run.
http://youtu.be/XIk1O8l2czk
I could do a lot worse for an earworm, mind you.
....or the others that follow if you've enabled YouTube Autoplay.
Marvelous stuff.

Nick
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2018-05-24 09:26:44 UTC
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If it's a plotline about students and tutors having a relationship,
it's really not believable at all these days.  There are soooooooooo
many rules about appropriate behaviour and ALL staff will have had
more training on it than it is possible to forget.  Pretty much any
Keri has said on twitter the story has a long way to run.
http://youtu.be/XIk1O8l2czk
I could do a lot worse for an earworm, mind you.
....or the others that follow if you've enabled YouTube Autoplay.
Marvelous stuff.
Just a few days left for free access to:

https://www.neilyoungarchives.com
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Post by Fenny
If it's a plotline about students and tutors having a relationship,
it's really not believable at all these days.  There are soooooooooo
many rules about appropriate behaviour and ALL staff will have had
more training on it than it is possible to forget.  Pretty much any
Keri has said on twitter the story has a long way to run.
http://youtu.be/XIk1O8l2czk
I could do a lot worse for an earworm, mind you.
....or the others that follow if you've enabled YouTube Autoplay.
Marvelous stuff.
https://www.neilyoungarchives.com
I'm getting a "Something went wrong" message each time I try to go there
- perhaps it has already reverted to the subscription model.

Thanks for the tip, though: I'll keep on following it up.

Nick
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I'm getting a "Something went wrong" message each time I try to go there
- perhaps it has already reverted to the subscription model.
Thanks for the tip, though: I'll keep on following it up.
FWIW, the site is working fine for me at the moment.
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2018-05-19 14:04:05 UTC
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Rotflmao. This has to be listened to. More than hilarious!
Really? I thought it was entirely out of character for both, and very
unfunny.
What was for who? I have listened but am not sure which interaction.
Presumably the elder flower gathering. I've never gathered elderflowers
from a climbable tree.
Wouldn’t the younger flowers be sweeter? ;-))
Bah! Humbug! Rubbish scene. I didn't like the new Frillies
storylines either.
That plot is gong to be interesting. Freddie’s I understand: a topic that
needs airing presumably. But the other one is outlandish enough to have to
make Lizzie sit up and take notice.

Sincerely Chris
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2018-05-19 18:30:33 UTC
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Rotflmao. This has to be listened to. More than hilarious!
Really? I thought it was entirely out of character for both, and very
unfunny.
What was for who? I have listened but am not sure which interaction.
Presumably the elder flower gathering. I've never gathered elderflowers
from a climbable tree.
Wouldn’t the younger flowers be sweeter? ;-))
Bah! Humbug! Rubbish scene. I didn't like the new Frillies
storylines either.
We've moved from 'Stenders to 'Ollyoakes.

john
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Rotflmao. This has to be listened to. More than hilarious!
Really? I thought it was entirely out of character for both, and very
unfunny.
What was for who? I have listened but am not sure which interaction.
Presumably the elder flower gathering. I've never gathered elderflowers
from a climbable tree.
Wouldn’t the younger flowers be sweeter? ;-))
I don't know if younger/older equates with sweeter/sourer but in my
experience, smells fragrant/smells of cats pee really makes a difference
to the taste. I always smell the flowers before I pick them and avoid
any trees with unpleasant-smelling flowers.

Hint: if you are planning to make anything with elderberries later in
the year, I find it is well worth remembering which trees had the
better-smelling flowers because the better-tasting berries will come
from those.

Nick
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Presumably the elder flower gathering. I've never gathered elderflowers
from a climbable tree.
Wouldn’t the younger flowers be sweeter? ;-))
I don't know if younger/older equates with sweeter/sourer but in my
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experience, smells fragrant/smells of cats pee really makes a difference
to the taste. I always smell the flowers before I pick them and avoid
any trees with unpleasant-smelling flowers.
Hm, I've a feeling I've said this before but if your elderflowers smell of
cat pee they are not elderflowers - possibly valerian (very similar
flowers) or viburnum.

Flowering currant flowers smell of cat's pee and my father would complain
about them if he caught a whiff but they don't look at all like elder and
produce no berries. Other currants smell of it too but I doubt you'd
confuse the plants.
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Mike Ruddock
2018-05-19 14:52:01 UTC
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Rotflmao. This has to be listened to. More than hilarious!
Really? I thought it was entirely out of character for both, and very
unfunny.
What was for who? I have listened but am not sure which interaction.
Presumably the elder flower gathering. I've never gathered elderflowers
from a climbable tree.
Well the elderflowers around here (not very far from "Ambridge") are not
yet out.

Mike Ruddock
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Rotflmao. This has to be listened to. More than hilarious!
Really? I thought it was entirely out of character for both, and very
unfunny.
What was for who? I have listened but am not sure which interaction.
Presumably the elder flower gathering. I've never gathered elderflowers
from a climbable tree.
Well the elderflowers around here (not very far from "Ambridge") are not
yet out.
Down on the North Downs I always reckoned they burst into blossom in June
and as soon as I noticed we'd get rain every day for two or three weeks.

Hereabouts the May is out, the Rowan is out, a lot of Viburnums are out and
if the current weather continues, the elder won't be long. Then I guess
we'll get some more rain.
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2018-05-20 15:30:51 UTC
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Hereabouts the May is out
No I have just checked and she is still in number 10.
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No I have just checked and she is still in number 10.
I think May arrived in October, or something like that. British weather
is unpredictable.
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Rotflmao. This has to be listened to. More than hilarious!
Really? I thought it was entirely out of character for both, and very
unfunny.
Exactly: So awful and so well played it was very funny. You couldn’t
imagine either of them doing it if the script were now properly
constructed.

Sincerely Chris
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