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Btms
2017-02-17 19:23:16 UTC
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And I know you are numerous in these parts.

We are thinking of travelling to GOC in May and are considering travel by
rail.
As I am born under the sign of Leo, this will only be possible if we travel
First Class. It will be a Sunday!

The route will be Kings X to Aviemore. I believe this is a Branson train.


Any views on what sort of service we can expect and/or fear will be most
welcome.
Peter Percival
2017-02-17 19:30:11 UTC
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The route will be Kings X to Aviemore. I believe this is a Branson train.
You'll be in a pickle.
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Chris McMillan
2017-02-18 11:13:22 UTC
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The route will be Kings X to Aviemore. I believe this is a Branson train.
You'll be in a pickle.
Get a Virgin from Reading and go up to Glasgow or Edinburgh and change
accordingly rather than via Kings X for a start. And never travel on a
Sunday unless you wish to tangle with rail works somewhere.

Sincerely Chris
Mike McMillan
2017-02-18 11:19:51 UTC
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The route will be Kings X to Aviemore. I believe this is a Branson train.
You'll be in a pickle.
Get a Virgin from Reading and go up to Glasgow or Edinburgh and change
accordingly rather than via Kings X for a start. And never travel on a
Sunday unless you wish to tangle with rail works somewhere.
Sincerely Chris
'But never on a Sunday, for that's their day of chaos.'
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2017-02-18 12:04:49 UTC
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Get a Virgin from Reading
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'But never on a Sunday, for that's their day of chaos.'
Curse you - I've now got Hadjidakis' tune going round my head. (Though I
know it better under its original title, which translates as The Lads of
Pireus. As translated for me by a young very homesick Greek in South
Shields about 3x years ago.)
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krw
2017-02-18 13:44:42 UTC
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Get a Virgin from Reading
Virgin do not serve Reading so that is simply not possible.
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Chris McMillan
2017-02-18 16:52:45 UTC
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Get a Virgin from Reading
Virgin do not serve Reading so that is simply not possible.
Should that have read X Country?

Sincerely Chris
steveski
2017-02-18 14:24:51 UTC
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Get a Virgin from Reading
A virgin in Reading? Nah.
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krw
2017-02-18 14:39:58 UTC
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Get a Virgin from Reading
A virgin in Reading? Nah.
The lions are said to roar in Forbury Gardens when a virgin walks past.
I have never heard them.
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Chris McMillan
2017-02-18 16:52:47 UTC
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Get a Virgin from Reading
A virgin in Reading? Nah.
The lions are said to roar in Forbury Gardens when a virgin walks past.
I have never heard them.
Not heard that one before - although its not one my uncles, aunts, dad or
grandparents would have repeated, I haven't seen it in print either.

Sincerely Chris
Vicky
2017-02-18 18:06:45 UTC
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Get a Virgin from Reading
A virgin in Reading? Nah.
The lions are said to roar in Forbury Gardens when a virgin walks past.
I have never heard them.
Not heard that one before - although its not one my uncles, aunts, dad or
grandparents would have repeated, I haven't seen it in print either.
Sincerely Chris
I wonder why mentioning the word virgin would be not done? Is it
because it brings in the idea of how to not be one?
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Chris McMillan
2017-02-18 18:08:35 UTC
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Get a Virgin from Reading
A virgin in Reading? Nah.
The lions are said to roar in Forbury Gardens when a virgin walks past.
I have never heard them.
Not heard that one before - although its not one my uncles, aunts, dad or
grandparents would have repeated, I haven't seen it in print either.
Sincerely Chris
I wonder why mentioning the word virgin would be not done? Is it
because it brings in the idea of how to not be one?
My family have a very strong sense of polite - and that in the 1960s would
not be polite for a little girl's ears.

Sincerely Chris
Peter Percival
2017-02-18 18:28:42 UTC
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Get a Virgin from Reading
A virgin in Reading? Nah.
The lions are said to roar in Forbury Gardens when a virgin walks past.
I have never heard them.
Not heard that one before - although its not one my uncles, aunts, dad or
grandparents would have repeated, I haven't seen it in print either.
Sincerely Chris
I wonder why mentioning the word virgin would be not done? Is it
because it brings in the idea of how to not be one?
My family have a very strong sense of polite - and that in the 1960s would
not be polite for a little girl's ears.
Sincerely Chris
I first heard the word 'virgin' at primary school, almost certainly as
in 'the virgin Mary'. When I got home and asked my mum what it meant
she told me that a virgin was a woman who could not have a baby. Later
(I think it was later) I heard the word 'bust' (as in bosom, not as in
broken). She told me it meant 'tummy'. She seemed to be embarrassed on
both occasions, so, thought I, we don't talk about such things. (This,
too, was in the 60s.)

Time passed and there was a question asked on Any Questions? about
whether sex education should be a matter for schools or parents. A
panellist was firmly in favour of parents doing the job and not schools.
My mother voiced her approval. That's all very well, thought I (I sad
nothing), but what if the parents aren't at ease talking about such
things? For the child will surely get the hint and go elsewhere for info.

Anyway, a considerable amount of my sex education was got from the
advice columns of women's magazines, and I recall my amusement at a
question - is it ok for a woman to shave off her public hair? The
columnist replied that nature had put that hair there for a reason, and
it should not be shaved off! What amused me was not so much the
question or even the answer, but rather the columnist's photo at the top
of the page: Dr So-and-so was a clean shaven bloke!
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I think I had better not, Duchess. Nowadays to be intelligible is
to be found out. -- Oscar Wilde, Lady Windermere's Fan
Chris J Dixon
2017-02-20 10:54:59 UTC
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I wonder why mentioning the word virgin would be not done? Is it
because it brings in the idea of how to not be one?
My family have a very strong sense of polite - and that in the 1960s would
not be polite for a little girl's ears.
I remember in my mid teens having a paperback copy of Virgin
Soldiers, and it kept mysteriously rotating in my bookshelf so
that the spine was inward.

Chris
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John Ashby
2017-02-17 19:38:10 UTC
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And I know you are numerous in these parts.
We are thinking of travelling to GOC in May
Game of Crones?

john
Btms
2017-02-17 19:59:03 UTC
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And I know you are numerous in these parts.
We are thinking of travelling to GOC in May
Game of Crones?
john
Oh really dear boy! Ms Burgess is back in these parts you know. Have a
little respect.
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Peter Percival
2017-02-17 20:08:31 UTC
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And I know you are numerous in these parts.
We are thinking of travelling to GOC in May
Game of Crones?
john
General Officer Commanding the General Optical Council, a post currently
held by Gareth O'Callaghan somewhere atop a Serbian mountain.
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to me what you really mean.
I think I had better not, Duchess. Nowadays to be intelligible is
to be found out. -- Oscar Wilde, Lady Windermere's Fan
krw
2017-02-17 22:19:08 UTC
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And I know you are numerous in these parts.
We are thinking of travelling to GOC in May and are considering travel by
rail.
As I am born under the sign of Leo, this will only be possible if we travel
First Class. It will be a Sunday!
The route will be Kings X to Aviemore. I believe this is a Branson train.
Any views on what sort of service we can expect and/or fear will be most
welcome.
90% Stagecoach despite what it says on the side of the train.
Timetables should be fixed 12 weeks before date of travel. If a Sunday
almost certain to be works on the line somewhere.

http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/

7 May: 11:00 from KX, change at Edinburgh arr Aviemore 18:33
12:00 from KX is a through train arr 19:28
Enquiries showing that there may yet be engineering works for the date
concerned.

So they will sell you a ticket but cannot tell you long. A single
ticket in standard for the 12:00 is 45.50, 74.50 for First.
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Btms
2017-02-18 08:42:24 UTC
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And I know you are numerous in these parts.
We are thinking of travelling to GOC in May and are considering travel by
rail.
As I am born under the sign of Leo, this will only be possible if we travel
First Class. It will be a Sunday!
The route will be Kings X to Aviemore. I believe this is a Branson train.
Any views on what sort of service we can expect and/or fear will be most
welcome.
90% Stagecoach despite what it says on the side of the train.
Timetables should be fixed 12 weeks before date of travel. If a Sunday
almost certain to be works on the line somewhere.
http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/
7 May: 11:00 from KX, change at Edinburgh arr Aviemore 18:33
12:00 from KX is a through train arr 19:28
Enquiries showing that there may yet be engineering works for the date
concerned.
So they will sell you a ticket but cannot tell you long. A single
ticket in standard for the 12:00 is 45.50, 74.50 for First.
Thank. Are stagecoach good on service do we know? Yes the Sunday travel
is an issue but we have little choice on this. Does anyone have anything
to say about the catering and if we can expect a dining car? The thought
of finding ourselves offloaded in to a minibus or similar is a worry.
Could we find out before leaving. We are thinking of the straight through
train. Would there be any benefit of changing at Waverly?
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Chris McMillan
2017-02-18 12:02:36 UTC
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And I know you are numerous in these parts.
We are thinking of travelling to GOC in May and are considering travel by
rail.
As I am born under the sign of Leo, this will only be possible if we travel
First Class. It will be a Sunday!
The route will be Kings X to Aviemore. I believe this is a Branson train.
Any views on what sort of service we can expect and/or fear will be most
welcome.
90% Stagecoach despite what it says on the side of the train.
Timetables should be fixed 12 weeks before date of travel. If a Sunday
almost certain to be works on the line somewhere.
http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/
7 May: 11:00 from KX, change at Edinburgh arr Aviemore 18:33
12:00 from KX is a through train arr 19:28
Enquiries showing that there may yet be engineering works for the date
concerned.
So they will sell you a ticket but cannot tell you long. A single
ticket in standard for the 12:00 is 45.50, 74.50 for First.
Thank. Are stagecoach good on service do we know? Yes the Sunday travel
is an issue but we have little choice on this. Does anyone have anything
to say about the catering and if we can expect a dining car? The thought
of finding ourselves offloaded in to a minibus or similar is a worry.
Could we find out before leaving. We are thinking of the straight through
train. Would there be any benefit of changing at Waverly?
Journey summary

Outward Journey (07 May 2017)
Depart Arrive Travel by Train company Duration
11:11Reading Station
12:50Birmingham New Street Train CROSSCOUNTRY
01h 39
Calling Points
13:20Birmingham New Street
17:14Glasgow Central Train VIRGIN TRAINS
03h 54
Calling Points
17:14Glasgow Central
18:11Glasgow Queen Street Bus This journey contains some legs by bus n/a
00h 57
18:11Glasgow Queen Street
20:46Aviemore Train SCOTRAIL
02h 35
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Anne B
2017-02-18 13:34:26 UTC
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Outward Journey (07 May 2017)
Depart Arrive Travel by Train company Duration
11:11Reading Station
12:50Birmingham New Street Train CROSSCOUNTRY
01h 39
Calling Points
13:20Birmingham New Street
17:14Glasgow Central Train VIRGIN TRAINS
03h 54
Calling Points
17:14Glasgow Central
18:11Glasgow Queen Street Bus This journey contains some legs by bus n/a
00h 57
18:11Glasgow Queen Street
20:46Aviemore Train SCOTRAIL
02h 35
Why on earth would anyone choose a journey requiring a change from
Glasgow Central to Glasgow Queen Street Stations when they could change
at Waverley, or even go without changing trains at all?

Anne B
krw
2017-02-18 14:01:10 UTC
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Outward Journey (07 May 2017)
Depart Arrive Travel by Train company Duration
11:11Reading Station
12:50Birmingham New Street Train CROSSCOUNTRY
01h 39
Calling Points
13:20Birmingham New Street
17:14Glasgow Central Train VIRGIN TRAINS
03h 54
Calling Points
17:14Glasgow Central
18:11Glasgow Queen Street Bus This journey contains some legs by
bus n/a
00h 57
18:11Glasgow Queen Street
20:46Aviemore Train SCOTRAIL
02h 35
Why on earth would anyone choose a journey requiring a change from
Glasgow Central to Glasgow Queen Street Stations when they could change
at Waverley, or even go without changing trains at all?
Anne B
I would guess that the journey planner is picking up some closures. But
I agree it seems a nonsense.

OP referred to starting from London and not Reading so I assume that OP
is spending the night at St Pancras Hotel which is rather comfortable
and has an excellent restaurant.
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2017-02-18 14:52:59 UTC
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Outward Journey (07 May 2017)
Depart Arrive Travel by Train company Duration
11:11Reading Station
12:50Birmingham New Street Train CROSSCOUNTRY
01h 39
Calling Points
13:20Birmingham New Street
17:14Glasgow Central Train VIRGIN TRAINS
03h 54
Calling Points
17:14Glasgow Central
18:11Glasgow Queen Street Bus This journey contains some legs by
bus n/a
00h 57
18:11Glasgow Queen Street
20:46Aviemore Train SCOTRAIL
02h 35
Why on earth would anyone choose a journey requiring a change from
Glasgow Central to Glasgow Queen Street Stations when they could change
at Waverley, or even go without changing trains at all?
Anne B
I would guess that the journey planner is picking up some closures. But
I agree it seems a nonsense.
OP referred to starting from London and not Reading so I assume that OP
is spending the night at St Pancras Hotel which is rather comfortable
and has an excellent restaurant.
Planned to spend night at RAF Club nr Hyde Pk Corner and almost certainly
go to a show the night before.
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Peter Percival
2017-02-18 15:28:13 UTC
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at Waverley, or even go without changing trains at all?
Mr Norris Changes Trains.
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Do, as a concession to my poor wits, Lord Darlington, just explain
to me what you really mean.
I think I had better not, Duchess. Nowadays to be intelligible is
to be found out. -- Oscar Wilde, Lady Windermere's Fan
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2017-02-18 16:52:08 UTC
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at Waverley, or even go without changing trains at all?
Mr Norris Changes Trains.
Are You a Camera? So closely observed.

john
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2017-02-19 12:46:38 UTC
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at Waverley, or even go without changing trains at all?
Mr Norris Changes Trains.
Are You a Camera? So closely observed.
<grin>
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Peter Percival
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at Waverley, or even go without changing trains at all?
Mr Norris Changes Trains.
Are You a Camera? So closely observed.
Me no Leica. I conKerr.
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Do, as a concession to my poor wits, Lord Darlington, just explain
to me what you really mean.
I think I had better not, Duchess. Nowadays to be intelligible is
to be found out. -- Oscar Wilde, Lady Windermere's Fan
John Ashby
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at Waverley, or even go without changing trains at all?
Mr Norris Changes Trains.
Are You a Camera? So closely observed.
Me no Leica. I conKerr.
Hey, what's it for, man?

john
Mike McMillan
2017-02-19 14:57:44 UTC
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at Waverley, or even go without changing trains at all?
Mr Norris Changes Trains.
Are You a Camera? So closely observed.
Me no Leica. I conKerr.
He said, snappily.
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Chris McMillan
2017-02-18 16:52:44 UTC
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Outward Journey (07 May 2017)
Depart Arrive Travel by Train company Duration
11:11Reading Station
12:50Birmingham New Street Train CROSSCOUNTRY
01h 39
Calling Points
13:20Birmingham New Street
17:14Glasgow Central Train VIRGIN TRAINS
03h 54
Calling Points
17:14Glasgow Central
18:11Glasgow Queen Street Bus This journey contains some legs by bus n/a
00h 57
18:11Glasgow Queen Street
20:46Aviemore Train SCOTRAIL
02h 35
Why on earth would anyone choose a journey requiring a change from
Glasgow Central to Glasgow Queen Street Stations when they could change
at Waverley, or even go without changing trains at all?
Anne B
Having to fight with the Virgin site rather than National Rail was
frustrating enough. I could've downloaded a pocket timetable but I
couldn't read it on iPad - and I don't know where btms starts from as she
lives in the middle of no railways. And I did no exceptions cos I didn't
see any selection boxes.

Sincerely Chris
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2017-02-18 14:52:58 UTC
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And I know you are numerous in these parts.
We are thinking of travelling to GOC in May and are considering travel by
rail.
As I am born under the sign of Leo, this will only be possible if we travel
First Class. It will be a Sunday!
The route will be Kings X to Aviemore. I believe this is a Branson train.
Any views on what sort of service we can expect and/or fear will be most
welcome.
90% Stagecoach despite what it says on the side of the train.
Timetables should be fixed 12 weeks before date of travel. If a Sunday
almost certain to be works on the line somewhere.
http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/
7 May: 11:00 from KX, change at Edinburgh arr Aviemore 18:33
12:00 from KX is a through train arr 19:28
Enquiries showing that there may yet be engineering works for the date
concerned.
So they will sell you a ticket but cannot tell you long. A single
ticket in standard for the 12:00 is 45.50, 74.50 for First.
Thank. Are stagecoach good on service do we know? Yes the Sunday travel
is an issue but we have little choice on this. Does anyone have anything
to say about the catering and if we can expect a dining car? The thought
of finding ourselves offloaded in to a minibus or similar is a worry.
Could we find out before leaving. We are thinking of the straight through
train. Would there be any benefit of changing at Waverly?
Journey summary
Outward Journey (07 May 2017)
Depart Arrive Travel by Train company Duration
11:11Reading Station
12:50Birmingham New Street Train CROSSCOUNTRY
01h 39
Calling Points
13:20Birmingham New Street
17:14Glasgow Central Train VIRGIN TRAINS
03h 54
Calling Points
17:14Glasgow Central
18:11Glasgow Queen Street Bus This journey contains some legs by bus n/a
00h 57
18:11Glasgow Queen Street
20:46Aviemore Train SCOTRAIL
02h 35
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OMG..... praps it is best to just drive to Soton and fly up to Edinburgh.
Pick up a train there.
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2017-02-19 11:22:27 UTC
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And I know you are numerous in these parts.
We are thinking of travelling to GOC in May and are considering travel by
rail.
As I am born under the sign of Leo, this will only be possible if we travel
First Class. It will be a Sunday!
The route will be Kings X to Aviemore. I believe this is a Branson train.
Any views on what sort of service we can expect and/or fear will be most
welcome.
90% Stagecoach despite what it says on the side of the train.
Timetables should be fixed 12 weeks before date of travel. If a Sunday
almost certain to be works on the line somewhere.
http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/
7 May: 11:00 from KX, change at Edinburgh arr Aviemore 18:33
12:00 from KX is a through train arr 19:28
Enquiries showing that there may yet be engineering works for the date
concerned.
So they will sell you a ticket but cannot tell you long. A single
ticket in standard for the 12:00 is 45.50, 74.50 for First.
Thank. Are stagecoach good on service do we know? Yes the Sunday travel
is an issue but we have little choice on this. Does anyone have anything
to say about the catering and if we can expect a dining car? The thought
of finding ourselves offloaded in to a minibus or similar is a worry.
Could we find out before leaving. We are thinking of the straight through
train. Would there be any benefit of changing at Waverly?
Journey summary
Outward Journey (07 May 2017)
Depart Arrive Travel by Train company Duration
11:11Reading Station
12:50Birmingham New Street Train CROSSCOUNTRY
01h 39
Calling Points
13:20Birmingham New Street
17:14Glasgow Central Train VIRGIN TRAINS
03h 54
Calling Points
17:14Glasgow Central
18:11Glasgow Queen Street Bus This journey contains some legs by bus n/a
00h 57
18:11Glasgow Queen Street
20:46Aviemore Train SCOTRAIL
02h 35
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OMG..... praps it is best to just drive to Soton and fly up to Edinburgh.
Pick up a train there.
Sadly Cross Country services are a minefield. Download the full
timetable from National Rail and work out for yourselves - if starting
from London then KX is the right place.
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Sally Thompson
2017-02-17 22:30:27 UTC
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And I know you are numerous in these parts.
We are thinking of travelling to GOC in May and are considering travel by
rail.
As I am born under the sign of Leo, this will only be possible if we travel
First Class. It will be a Sunday!
The route will be Kings X to Aviemore. I believe this is a Branson train.
Any views on what sort of service we can expect and/or fear will be most
welcome.
AIAOU in not recognising GOC? The first two options in Google are the
General Optical Council and the Gay Outdoor Club.
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krw
2017-02-17 22:32:38 UTC
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And I know you are numerous in these parts.
We are thinking of travelling to GOC in May and are considering travel by
rail.
As I am born under the sign of Leo, this will only be possible if we travel
First Class. It will be a Sunday!
The route will be Kings X to Aviemore. I believe this is a Branson train.
Any views on what sort of service we can expect and/or fear will be most
welcome.
AIAOU in not recognising GOC? The first two options in Google are the
General Optical Council and the Gay Outdoor Club.
I believe it is a reference to that Godforsaken Odious Country the other
side of Hadrian's Wall from here.
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2017-02-18 08:42:19 UTC
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And I know you are numerous in these parts.
We are thinking of travelling to GOC in May and are considering travel by
rail.
As I am born under the sign of Leo, this will only be possible if we travel
First Class. It will be a Sunday!
The route will be Kings X to Aviemore. I believe this is a Branson train.
Any views on what sort of service we can expect and/or fear will be most
welcome.
AIAOU in not recognising GOC? The first two options in Google are the
General Optical Council and the Gay Outdoor Club.
I believe it is a reference to that Godforsaken Odious Country the other
side of Hadrian's Wall from here.
Close 😊
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And I know you are numerous in these parts.
We are thinking of travelling to GOC in May and are considering travel by
rail.
As I am born under the sign of Leo, this will only be possible if we travel
First Class. It will be a Sunday!
The route will be Kings X to Aviemore. I believe this is a Branson train.
Any views on what sort of service we can expect and/or fear will be most
welcome.
AIAOU in not recognising GOC? The first two options in Google are the
General Optical Council and the Gay Outdoor Club.
I believe it is a reference to that Godforsaken Odious Country the other
side of Hadrian's Wall from here.
Close 😊
Another option from Reading

Newbury. dep 09.53
Reading. arr 10.25
Reading dep 11.11
Birmingham New Street arr 12.50
Birmingham New Street dep 13.20
Glasgow Central. arr 17.14, then bus leg to Glasgow Queen St
Glasgow Queen St. dep 18.11
Aviemore arr. 20.46

As national rail suddenly refuses to play ball in iPad have tangled with
Pickle which shows a bus leg.

Newbury as an example or would you start from Reading for KC whatever?

Thought this might be easier than facing the Tube but if you can afford
First Class £10 for a taxi from Paddington is nothing. This is a trip I
was doing by taxi until my meeting moved venue away from KC but its only
been a year since I did it mid-evening from outside station to station and
its always been a tenner.

Can't speak for First Class as I dislike the seating so much (built for the
taller person, it pulls my back muscles as I stretch too much to try to put
feet to floor). If the seating design is similar to Standard window
viewing to seat placement can be total rubbish. Food is by trolley, air
con if turned can in my experience be fierce,

Sincerely Chris
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2017-02-18 09:25:29 UTC
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AIAOU in not recognising GOC? The first two options in Google are the
General Optical Council and the Gay Outdoor Club.
<BG>! I wasn't sure either, but assumed god's own country - though as
Fenny said, I've usually heard that referring to Yorkshire - which,
though not a country, certainly feels like one: it's a _long_ part of my
triannual drive [from Kent] to Newcastle, and the parts of England
either side of it have very different characters.
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I believe it is a reference to that Godforsaken Odious Country the
other side of Hadrian's Wall from here.
It's _not_ just the other side of the Waal - unless you're on the
Cumbrian side, that is. If you go up the east side, there's a _lot_ of
England still to go once you pass Wallsend: there's a county bigger than
Kent, Cornwall (though not _quite_ as _long_), and in fact most other
counties. Mostly pleasant countryside, and with some castles to die for.
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about the right balance; that by comparison its predecessors were prim and
embarrassed, its successors sex-obsessed and pornified. - Julian Barnes, Radio
Times 9-15 March 2013
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2017-02-18 09:50:13 UTC
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AIAOU in not recognising GOC? The first two options in Google are the
General Optical Council and the Gay Outdoor Club.
<BG>! I wasn't sure either, but assumed god's own country - though as
Fenny said, I've usually heard that referring to Yorkshire - which,
though not a country, certainly feels like one: it's a _long_ part of my
triannual drive [from Kent] to Newcastle, and the parts of England
either side of it have very different characters.
You seem to have forgotten the Devolved bbq which I held for many years in
that land I referred to as GOC.
Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.
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2017-02-17 22:44:14 UTC
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AIAOU in not recognising GOC? The first two options in Google are the
General Optical Council and the Gay Outdoor Club.
GOC is generally accepted to mean God's Own Country, ie Yorkshire.
Anything else is clearly a mistake.
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2017-02-17 22:46:19 UTC
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AIAOU in not recognising GOC? The first two options in Google are the
General Optical Council and the Gay Outdoor Club.
GOC is generally accepted to mean God's Own Country, ie Yorkshire.
Anything else is clearly a mistake.
Yorkshire is at most a group of ridings and maybe a county but falls a
long way short of being a country.
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AIAOU in not recognising GOC? The first two options in Google are the
General Optical Council and the Gay Outdoor Club.
GOC is generally accepted to mean God's Own Country, ie Yorkshire.
Anything else is clearly a mistake.
Yorkshire is at most a group of ridings and maybe a county but falls a
long way short of being a country.
There's probably more support for an independent Yorkshire than any
other part of the UK!
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2017-02-17 23:58:16 UTC
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AIAOU in not recognising GOC? The first two options in Google are the
General Optical Council and the Gay Outdoor Club.
GOC is generally accepted to mean God's Own Country, ie Yorkshire.
Anything else is clearly a mistake.
Yorkshire is at most a group of ridings and maybe a county but falls a
long way short of being a country.
There's probably more support for an independent Yorkshire than any
other part of the UK!
Is that from Yorkshire folk or everyone else?
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to me what you really mean.
I think I had better not, Duchess. Nowadays to be intelligible is
to be found out. -- Oscar Wilde, Lady Windermere's Fan
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2017-02-18 08:42:23 UTC
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AIAOU in not recognising GOC? The first two options in Google are the
General Optical Council and the Gay Outdoor Club.
GOC is generally accepted to mean God's Own Country, ie Yorkshire.
Anything else is clearly a mistake.
Yorkshire is at most a group of ridings and maybe a county but falls a
long way short of being a country.
There's probably more support for an independent Yorkshire than any
other part of the UK!
But it isn't a country. So not a reality.
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AIAOU in not recognising GOC? The first two options in Google are the
General Optical Council and the Gay Outdoor Club.
GOC is generally accepted to mean God's Own Country, ie Yorkshire.
Anything else is clearly a mistake.
Yorkshire is at most a group of ridings and maybe a county but falls a
long way short of being a country.
Quite. Only the deluded would claim otherwise.
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AIAOU in not recognising GOC? The first two options in Google are the
General Optical Council and the Gay Outdoor Club.
GOC is generally accepted to mean God's Own Country, ie Yorkshire.
Anything else is clearly a mistake.
Generally accepted. Bit sweeping.
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2017-02-18 11:45:34 UTC
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And I know you are numerous in these parts.
We are thinking of travelling to GOC in May and are considering travel by
rail.
As I am born under the sign of Leo, this will only be possible if we travel
First Class. It will be a Sunday!
The route will be Kings X to Aviemore. I believe this is a Branson train.
Any views on what sort of service we can expect and/or fear will be most
welcome.
AIAOU in not recognising GOC? The first two options in Google are the
General Optical Council and the Gay Outdoor Club.
God's own country she means

Sincerely Chris
p***@never.here
2017-02-18 14:20:05 UTC
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And I know you are numerous in these parts.
We are thinking of travelling to GOC in May and are considering travel by
rail.
As I am born under the sign of Leo, this will only be possible if we travel
First Class. It will be a Sunday!
The route will be Kings X to Aviemore. I believe this is a Branson train.
Any views on what sort of service we can expect and/or fear will be most
welcome.
There are plenty of options here. Including journeys without change.

http://ojp.nationalrail.co.uk/service/timesandfares/London/AVM/070517/1415/dep#outwardJump

or http://tinyurl.com/j8z9hc4

hth
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And I know you are numerous in these parts.
We are thinking of travelling to GOC in May and are considering travel by
rail.
As I am born under the sign of Leo, this will only be possible if we travel
First Class. It will be a Sunday!
The route will be Kings X to Aviemore. I believe this is a Branson train.
Any views on what sort of service we can expect and/or fear will be most
welcome.
There are plenty of options here. Including journeys without change.
http://ojp.nationalrail.co.uk/service/timesandfares/London/AVM/070517/1415/dep#outwardJump
or http://tinyurl.com/j8z9hc4
hth
Thank you yes but the main question is about the quality of First Class
service. Now think Sunday travel for this distance is out. As far as I
can see, the only food is sandwiches or wraps at any time. May as well fly
up. Fancied the train but it doesn't sound rewarding.
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And I know you are numerous in these parts.
We are thinking of travelling to GOC in May and are considering travel by
rail.
As I am born under the sign of Leo, this will only be possible if we travel
First Class. It will be a Sunday!
The route will be Kings X to Aviemore. I believe this is a Branson train.
Any views on what sort of service we can expect and/or fear will be most
welcome.
There are plenty of options here. Including journeys without change.
http://ojp.nationalrail.co.uk/service/timesandfares/London/AVM/070517/1415/dep#outwardJump
or http://tinyurl.com/j8z9hc4
hth
Thank you yes but the main question is about the quality of First Class
service. Now think Sunday travel for this distance is out. As far as I
can see, the only food is sandwiches or wraps at any time. May as well fly
up. Fancied the train but it doesn't sound rewarding.
Fair enough, I've just looked at the Virgin Rail website and see that
their "Full menu" only applies on weekdays. Sunday, you are limited to
"complimentary snacks, drinks and free WiFi" Not so good for an 11
hour journey. If Soton is convenient, flying up seems favourite.
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And I know you are numerous in these parts.
We are thinking of travelling to GOC in May and are considering travel by
rail.
As I am born under the sign of Leo, this will only be possible if we travel
First Class. It will be a Sunday!
The route will be Kings X to Aviemore. I believe this is a Branson train.
Any views on what sort of service we can expect and/or fear will be most
welcome.
There are plenty of options here. Including journeys without change.
http://ojp.nationalrail.co.uk/service/timesandfares/London/AVM/070517/1415/dep#outwardJump
or http://tinyurl.com/j8z9hc4
hth
No idea why but national rail site doesn't work any more on iPad. I don't
want the app. Grrrrrrrr. Another bit of independence gone.

Sincerely Chris
Sally Thompson
2017-02-18 18:38:44 UTC
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And I know you are numerous in these parts.
We are thinking of travelling to GOC in May and are considering travel by
rail.
As I am born under the sign of Leo, this will only be possible if we travel
First Class. It will be a Sunday!
The route will be Kings X to Aviemore. I believe this is a Branson train.
Any views on what sort of service we can expect and/or fear will be most
welcome.
There are plenty of options here. Including journeys without change.
http://ojp.nationalrail.co.uk/service/timesandfares/London/AVM/070517/1415/dep#outwardJump
or http://tinyurl.com/j8z9hc4
hth
No idea why but national rail site doesn't work any more on iPad. I don't
want the app. Grrrrrrrr. Another bit of independence gone.
Sincerely Chris
National Rail site works fine on my iPad, Chris, and have just looked up
trains from Kings Cross to Aviemore on a Sunday with no problems.
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And I know you are numerous in these parts.
We are thinking of travelling to GOC in May and are considering travel by
rail.
As I am born under the sign of Leo, this will only be possible if we travel
First Class. It will be a Sunday!
The route will be Kings X to Aviemore. I believe this is a Branson train.
Any views on what sort of service we can expect and/or fear will be most
welcome.
There are plenty of options here. Including journeys without change.
http://ojp.nationalrail.co.uk/service/timesandfares/London/AVM/070517/1415/dep#outwardJump
or http://tinyurl.com/j8z9hc4
hth
No idea why but national rail site doesn't work any more on iPad. I don't
want the app. Grrrrrrrr. Another bit of independence gone.
Sincerely Chris
National Rail site works fine on my iPad, Chris, and have just looked up
trains from Kings Cross to Aviemore on a Sunday with no problems.
It goes into a tiny mode and keeps refreshing itself and refuses to let me
type into box. I haven't yet tried the old iPad which lives by the bed for
comparison. I can wait till I turn on the iMac of course but I don't like
* having* to.

Thanks Sally

Sincerely Chris
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No idea why but national rail site doesn't work any more on iPad.
Does it keep locking up on you and refusing to scroll?

I was blaming the iPad assuming it was my ancient one but perhaps it is
the site itself.

Then it usually crashes and reloads.
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No idea why but national rail site doesn't work any more on iPad.
Does it keep locking up on you and refusing to scroll?
I was blaming the iPad assuming it was my ancient one but perhaps it is
the site itself.
Then it usually crashes and reloads.
I clicked on the link in Sally's message. Lovely. Went to browser, and it
went minute tiny - so I showed McT. It reckoned it was a fault and was
reloading. This iPad is just about a year old.

Sincerely Chris
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No idea why but national rail site doesn't work any more on iPad.
Does it keep locking up on you and refusing to scroll?
I was blaming the iPad assuming it was my ancient one but perhaps it is
the site itself.
Then it usually crashes and reloads.
I clicked on the link in Sally's message. Lovely. Went to browser, and it
went minute tiny - so I showed McT. It reckoned it was a fault and was
reloading. This iPad is just about a year old.
I didn't have a link in my message did I?
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No idea why but national rail site doesn't work any more on iPad.
Does it keep locking up on you and refusing to scroll?
I was blaming the iPad assuming it was my ancient one but perhaps it is
the site itself.
Then it usually crashes and reloads.
I clicked on the link in Sally's message. Lovely. Went to browser, and it
went minute tiny - so I showed McT. It reckoned it was a fault and was
reloading. This iPad is just about a year old.
I didn't have a link in my message did I?
Ah, its your reply but someone else's link.

Sincerely Chris

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