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Radio Times/BBC Credits and Spoilers - week ending 19th May 2017
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carolet
2017-05-13 10:08:31 UTC
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Note that spoilers are included below the cast and crew.

Cast :
David Archer - Timothy Bentinck
Pip Archer - Daisy Badger
Kenton Archer - Richard Attlee
Jolene Archer - Buffy Davis
Tom Archer - William Troughton
Brian Aldridge - Charles Collingwood
Jennifer Aldridge - Angela Piper
Lilian Bellamy - Sunny Ormonde
PC Harrison Burns - James Cartwright
Alice Carter - Hollie Chapman
Matt Crawford - Kim Durham
Justin Elliott - Simon Williams
Miranda Elliott - Lucy Fleming
Rex Fairbrother - Nick Barber
Toby Fairbrother - Rhys Bevan
Bert Fry - Eric Allan
Joe Grundy - Edward Kelsey
Eddie Grundy - Trevor Harrison
Jim Lloyd - John Rowe
Adam Macy - Andrew Wincott
Kirsty Miller - Annabelle Dowler
Lily Pargetter - Katie Redford
Robert Snell - Graham Blockey
Lynda Snell - Carole Boyd
Peggy Woolley - June Spencer

Director : Rosemary Watts
Editor : Huw Kennair-Jones
Writer : Adrian Flynn


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Spoilers:
Sunday 14th - Toby cannot be cheered, and Tom offers his philosophy.
Monday 15th - Lily offers her analysis, and Adam has a keen student.
Tuesday 16th - Harrison has his work cut out, and Matt returns two items.
Wednesday 17th - Kenton gets the wrong end of the stick, and Rex will
not take no for an answer.
Thursday 18th - Kirsty makes a promise, and Justin fights his corner.
Friday 19th - Peggy surprises her family, and Lilian receives a warning.

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Vicky
2017-05-13 10:43:54 UTC
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Note that spoilers are included below the cast and crew.
David Archer - Timothy Bentinck
Pip Archer - Daisy Badger
Kenton Archer - Richard Attlee
Jolene Archer - Buffy Davis
Tom Archer - William Troughton
Brian Aldridge - Charles Collingwood
Jennifer Aldridge - Angela Piper
Lilian Bellamy - Sunny Ormonde
PC Harrison Burns - James Cartwright
Alice Carter - Hollie Chapman
Matt Crawford - Kim Durham
Justin Elliott - Simon Williams
Miranda Elliott - Lucy Fleming
Rex Fairbrother - Nick Barber
Toby Fairbrother - Rhys Bevan
Bert Fry - Eric Allan
Joe Grundy - Edward Kelsey
Eddie Grundy - Trevor Harrison
Jim Lloyd - John Rowe
Adam Macy - Andrew Wincott
Kirsty Miller - Annabelle Dowler
Lily Pargetter - Katie Redford
Robert Snell - Graham Blockey
Lynda Snell - Carole Boyd
Peggy Woolley - June Spencer
Director : Rosemary Watts
Editor : Huw Kennair-Jones
Writer : Adrian Flynn
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Sunday 14th - Toby cannot be cheered, and Tom offers his philosophy.
Toby was unbelievably bad last night. Did he take the bottle of wine
Rex and Anisha were drinking? And she was a total cow too. Did we
decide the age differnce between Rex and Anisha?
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Monday 15th - Lily offers her analysis, and Adam has a keen student.
Tuesday 16th - Harrison has his work cut out, and Matt returns two items.
Some of the valuable paintings he took? He is seeming more evil now
than at first and than previously.
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Wednesday 17th - Kenton gets the wrong end of the stick, and Rex will
not take no for an answer.
But who is Rex asking? Pip or Anisha? I think I'd back off her if I
were him. I didn't much like her teaming up with Matt and not telling
Snappy all.
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Thursday 18th - Kirsty makes a promise, and Justin fights his corner.
Friday 19th - Peggy surprises her family, and Lilian receives a warning.
Lilian is going to get a warning from Miranda, according to RT. I
think she should heed it, he sounds too smooth.
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Nick Odell
2017-05-13 12:51:27 UTC
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Did we
decide the age differnce between Rex and Anisha?
The formula is something like converting Farenheit to Centigrade,
isn't it? Half your own age plus seven is decent. Or double your own
age minus seven if it is the other way around.

But Emmanuel and Brigitte are so cool together even though they are
right on the boundary yet whilst Donald and Melania fall inside, they
are just so ewwwwww.

Nick
Peter Percival
2017-05-13 14:19:40 UTC
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Did we
decide the age differnce between Rex and Anisha?
The formula is something like converting Farenheit to Centigrade,
isn't it? Half your own age plus seven is decent. Or double your own
age minus seven if it is the other way around.
But Emmanuel and Brigitte are so cool together even though they are
right on the boundary yet whilst Donald and Melania fall inside, they
are just so ewwwwww.
Are they happy? If so, who gives a stewed fuck about their age
difference? A good may people it seems. Let them all be told to mind
their own business.
--
Do, as a concession to my poor wits, Lord Darlington, just explain
to me what you really mean.
I think I had better not, Duchess. Nowadays to be intelligible is
to be found out. -- Oscar Wilde, Lady Windermere's Fan
Nick Odell
2017-05-13 14:58:21 UTC
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Did we
decide the age differnce between Rex and Anisha?
The formula is something like converting Farenheit to Centigrade,
isn't it? Half your own age plus seven is decent. Or double your own
age minus seven if it is the other way around.
But Emmanuel and Brigitte are so cool together even though they are
right on the boundary yet whilst Donald and Melania fall inside, they
are just so ewwwwww.
Are they happy? If so, who gives a stewed fuck about their age
difference? A good may people it seems. Let them all be told to mind
their own business.
Although I might have worded it differently on what claims to be a
family newsgroup[1] I agree with you. The French couple look, to all
intents like a love match and if they don't care about their years why
should we? To me, the other marriage has all the hallmarks of a
contract negotiated over a boardroom table. But if it makes them happy
why should we care?

Nick
[1]One that could be read by all the family, not one that is read by
all the family, it appears.
Peter Percival
2017-05-13 15:15:55 UTC
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Did we
decide the age differnce between Rex and Anisha?
The formula is something like converting Farenheit to Centigrade,
isn't it? Half your own age plus seven is decent. Or double your own
age minus seven if it is the other way around.
But Emmanuel and Brigitte are so cool together even though they are
right on the boundary yet whilst Donald and Melania fall inside, they
are just so ewwwwww.
Are they happy? If so, who gives a stewed fuck about their age
difference? A good may people it seems. Let them all be told to
A good many people...

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their own business.
Although I might have worded it differently on what claims to be a
family newsgroup[1] I agree with you. The French couple look, to all
intents like a love match and if they don't care about their years why
should we? To me, the other marriage has all the hallmarks of a
contract negotiated over a boardroom table. But if it makes them happy
why should we care?
Nick
[1]One that could be read by all the family, not one that is read by
all the family, it appears.
--
Do, as a concession to my poor wits, Lord Darlington, just explain
to me what you really mean.
I think I had better not, Duchess. Nowadays to be intelligible is
to be found out. -- Oscar Wilde, Lady Windermere's Fan
Vicky
2017-05-13 17:00:01 UTC
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Did we
decide the age differnce between Rex and Anisha?
The formula is something like converting Farenheit to Centigrade,
isn't it? Half your own age plus seven is decent. Or double your own
age minus seven if it is the other way around.
But Emmanuel and Brigitte are so cool together even though they are
right on the boundary yet whilst Donald and Melania fall inside, they
are just so ewwwwww.
Are they happy? If so, who gives a stewed fuck about their age
difference? A good may people it seems. Let them all be told to mind
their own business.
I was asking out of interest, definitely not disapproval :).
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Vicky
Peter Percival
2017-05-13 17:02:06 UTC
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Did we
decide the age differnce between Rex and Anisha?
The formula is something like converting Farenheit to Centigrade,
isn't it? Half your own age plus seven is decent. Or double your own
age minus seven if it is the other way around.
But Emmanuel and Brigitte are so cool together even though they are
right on the boundary yet whilst Donald and Melania fall inside, they
are just so ewwwwww.
Are they happy? If so, who gives a stewed fuck about their age
difference? A good may people it seems. Let them all be told to mind
their own business.
I was asking out of interest, definitely not disapproval :).
Good for you girl!
--
Do, as a concession to my poor wits, Lord Darlington, just explain
to me what you really mean.
I think I had better not, Duchess. Nowadays to be intelligible is
to be found out. -- Oscar Wilde, Lady Windermere's Fan
Penny
2017-05-13 14:36:50 UTC
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The formula is something like converting Farenheit to Centigrade,
isn't it? Half your own age plus seven is decent. Or double your own
age minus seven if it is the other way around.
Goodness!
Not sure I could cope with a toy boy under 40.
Apparently now too old for a 'sugar daddy' - probably just as well...
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Nick Odell
2017-05-13 15:06:40 UTC
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The formula is something like converting Farenheit to Centigrade,
isn't it? Half your own age plus seven is decent. Or double your own
age minus seven if it is the other way around.
Goodness!
Not sure I could cope with a toy boy under 40.
Apparently now too old for a 'sugar daddy' - probably just as well...
It works very well at the younger ages. A sixteen-year-old looks fine
with a fifteen-year-old which ever way round they are matched but a
fourteen year old and a twenty year old? No.

There was a pupil teacher couple like Emmanuel and Brigitte at my
Grammar School. These days they would lock you up and put you on the
sex offenders register but they were very discrete and got married
after the pupil left at the end of the sixth form. They are still
blissfully happy together.

Nick
Vicky
2017-05-13 16:58:00 UTC
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Post by Nick Odell
The formula is something like converting Farenheit to Centigrade,
isn't it? Half your own age plus seven is decent. Or double your own
age minus seven if it is the other way around.
Goodness!
Not sure I could cope with a toy boy under 40.
Apparently now too old for a 'sugar daddy' - probably just as well...
It works very well at the younger ages. A sixteen-year-old looks fine
with a fifteen-year-old which ever way round they are matched but a
fourteen year old and a twenty year old? No.
There was a pupil teacher couple like Emmanuel and Brigitte at my
Grammar School. These days they would lock you up and put you on the
sex offenders register but they were very discrete and got married
after the pupil left at the end of the sixth form. They are still
blissfully happy together.
Nick
There were two pupil teacher couples at my school and, as it was quite
small, only about 600, a two form intake, that might be a lot? The
English teacher, Taffy, who was lovely, came from the same town as
Dylan Thomas and was also sports teacher, eventually married the girl
he'd dated when she was in the sixth form, and my friend went out,
also when in the sixth, with the georgraphy/history teacher. They
didn't marry in the end but nothing awful happened.
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Vicky
Btms
2017-05-13 17:15:48 UTC
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The formula is something like converting Farenheit to Centigrade,
isn't it? Half your own age plus seven is decent. Or double your own
age minus seven if it is the other way around.
Goodness!
Not sure I could cope with a toy boy under 40.
Apparently now too old for a 'sugar daddy' - probably just as well...
It works very well at the younger ages. A sixteen-year-old looks fine
with a fifteen-year-old which ever way round they are matched but a
fourteen year old and a twenty year old? No.
There was a pupil teacher couple like Emmanuel and Brigitte at my
Grammar School. These days they would lock you up and put you on the
sex offenders register but they were very discrete and got married
after the pupil left at the end of the sixth form. They are still
blissfully happy together.
Nick
There were two pupil teacher couples at my school and, as it was quite
small, only about 600, a two form intake, that might be a lot? The
English teacher, Taffy, who was lovely, came from the same town as
Dylan Thomas and was also sports teacher, eventually married the girl
he'd dated when she was in the sixth form, and my friend went out,
also when in the sixth, with the georgraphy/history teacher. They
didn't marry in the end but nothing awful happened.
Small? Maybe but the scholl I went to had about 80 pupils and ages ranged
from 4.4 to 16
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Btms
2017-05-13 17:18:17 UTC
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The formula is something like converting Farenheit to Centigrade,
isn't it? Half your own age plus seven is decent. Or double your own
age minus seven if it is the other way around.
Goodness!
Not sure I could cope with a toy boy under 40.
Apparently now too old for a 'sugar daddy' - probably just as well...
It works very well at the younger ages. A sixteen-year-old looks fine
with a fifteen-year-old which ever way round they are matched but a
fourteen year old and a twenty year old? No.
There was a pupil teacher couple like Emmanuel and Brigitte at my
Grammar School. These days they would lock you up and put you on the
sex offenders register but they were very discrete and got married
after the pupil left at the end of the sixth form. They are still
blissfully happy together.
Nick
There were two pupil teacher couples at my school and, as it was quite
small, only about 600, a two form intake, that might be a lot? The
English teacher, Taffy, who was lovely, came from the same town as
Dylan Thomas and was also sports teacher, eventually married the girl
he'd dated when she was in the sixth form, and my friend went out,
also when in the sixth, with the georgraphy/history teacher. They
didn't marry in the end but nothing awful happened.
Small? Maybe but the scholl I went to had about 80 pupils and ages ranged
from 4.4 to 16
And didnt teech tipping or spilling. 😩
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Peter Percival
2017-05-13 17:30:31 UTC
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The formula is something like converting Farenheit to Centigrade,
isn't it? Half your own age plus seven is decent. Or double your own
age minus seven if it is the other way around.
Goodness!
Not sure I could cope with a toy boy under 40.
Apparently now too old for a 'sugar daddy' - probably just as well...
It works very well at the younger ages. A sixteen-year-old looks fine
with a fifteen-year-old which ever way round they are matched but a
fourteen year old and a twenty year old? No.
There was a pupil teacher couple like Emmanuel and Brigitte at my
Grammar School. These days they would lock you up and put you on the
sex offenders register but they were very discrete and got married
after the pupil left at the end of the sixth form. They are still
blissfully happy together.
Nick
There were two pupil teacher couples at my school and, as it was quite
small, only about 600, a two form intake, that might be a lot? The
English teacher, Taffy, who was lovely, came from the same town as
Dylan Thomas and was also sports teacher, eventually married the girl
he'd dated when she was in the sixth form, and my friend went out,
also when in the sixth, with the georgraphy/history teacher. They
didn't marry in the end but nothing awful happened.
Small? Maybe but the scholl I went to had about 80 pupils and ages ranged
from 4.4 to 16
And didnt teech tipping or spilling. 😩
Did you put your foot in it?
--
Do, as a concession to my poor wits, Lord Darlington, just explain
to me what you really mean.
I think I had better not, Duchess. Nowadays to be intelligible is
to be found out. -- Oscar Wilde, Lady Windermere's Fan
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2017-05-13 18:09:17 UTC
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The formula is something like converting Farenheit to Centigrade,
isn't it? Half your own age plus seven is decent. Or double your own
age minus seven if it is the other way around.
Goodness!
Not sure I could cope with a toy boy under 40.
Apparently now too old for a 'sugar daddy' - probably just as well...
It works very well at the younger ages. A sixteen-year-old looks fine
with a fifteen-year-old which ever way round they are matched but a
fourteen year old and a twenty year old? No.
There was a pupil teacher couple like Emmanuel and Brigitte at my
Grammar School. These days they would lock you up and put you on the
sex offenders register but they were very discrete and got married
after the pupil left at the end of the sixth form. They are still
blissfully happy together.
Nick
There were two pupil teacher couples at my school and, as it was quite
small, only about 600, a two form intake, that might be a lot? The
English teacher, Taffy, who was lovely, came from the same town as
Dylan Thomas and was also sports teacher, eventually married the girl
he'd dated when she was in the sixth form, and my friend went out,
also when in the sixth, with the georgraphy/history teacher. They
didn't marry in the end but nothing awful happened.
Small? Maybe but the scholl I went to had about 80 pupils and ages ranged
from 4.4 to 16
And didnt teech tipping or spilling. 😩
Did you put your foot in it?
I was a shoe-in for Head Girl?
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2017-05-13 17:28:42 UTC
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The formula is something like converting Farenheit to Centigrade,
isn't it? Half your own age plus seven is decent. Or double your own
age minus seven if it is the other way around.
Goodness!
Not sure I could cope with a toy boy under 40.
Apparently now too old for a 'sugar daddy' - probably just as well...
It works very well at the younger ages. A sixteen-year-old looks fine
with a fifteen-year-old which ever way round they are matched but a
fourteen year old and a twenty year old? No.
There was a pupil teacher couple like Emmanuel and Brigitte at my
Grammar School. These days they would lock you up and put you on the
sex offenders register but they were very discrete and got married
after the pupil left at the end of the sixth form. They are still
blissfully happy together.
Nick
There were two pupil teacher couples at my school and, as it was quite
small, only about 600, a two form intake, that might be a lot? The
English teacher, Taffy, who was lovely, came from the same town as
Dylan Thomas and was also sports teacher, eventually married the girl
he'd dated when she was in the sixth form, and my friend went out,
also when in the sixth, with the georgraphy/history teacher. They
didn't marry in the end but nothing awful happened.
Small? Maybe but the scholl I went to had about 80 pupils and ages ranged
from 4.4 to 16
From which end of that range did those having affairs come?
--
Do, as a concession to my poor wits, Lord Darlington, just explain
to me what you really mean.
I think I had better not, Duchess. Nowadays to be intelligible is
to be found out. -- Oscar Wilde, Lady Windermere's Fan
Marjorie
2017-05-15 10:18:21 UTC
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The formula is something like converting Farenheit to Centigrade,
isn't it? Half your own age plus seven is decent. Or double your own
age minus seven if it is the other way around.
Goodness!
Not sure I could cope with a toy boy under 40.
Apparently now too old for a 'sugar daddy' - probably just as well...
It works very well at the younger ages. A sixteen-year-old looks fine
with a fifteen-year-old which ever way round they are matched but a
fourteen year old and a twenty year old? No.
There was a pupil teacher couple like Emmanuel and Brigitte at my
Grammar School. These days they would lock you up and put you on the
sex offenders register but they were very discrete and got married
after the pupil left at the end of the sixth form. They are still
blissfully happy together.
Nick
There were two pupil teacher couples at my school and, as it was quite
small, only about 600, a two form intake, that might be a lot? The
English teacher, Taffy, who was lovely, came from the same town as
Dylan Thomas and was also sports teacher, eventually married the girl
he'd dated when she was in the sixth form, and my friend went out,
also when in the sixth, with the georgraphy/history teacher. They
didn't marry in the end but nothing awful happened.
I know of a case like this, a consensual relationship in which the
couple parted amicably, but about 25 years later the woman was persuaded
to go to the police about it. The (male) teacher ended up in prison. I
think that may mean the girls was under 16 at the time but this was in
the days when such relationships were more usual, and there was no
suggestion of coercion or abuse.
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2017-05-15 11:41:15 UTC
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I know of a case like this, a consensual relationship in which the
couple parted amicably, but about 25 years later the woman was persuaded
to go to the police about it. The (male) teacher ended up in prison. I
think that may mean the girls was under 16 at the time but this was in
the days when such relationships were more usual, and there was no
suggestion of coercion or abuse.
It is the re-writing of history in such cases together with the
fabrication which sometimes happens (Cliff Richard et al) which I find
distressing. I accept Jimmy Savile was a monster (allegedly as there is
no absolute proof or a conviction). But things were different then.
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2017-05-15 10:20:45 UTC
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Did we
decide the age differnce between Rex and Anisha?
The formula is something like converting Farenheit to Centigrade,
isn't it? Half your own age plus seven is decent. Or double your own
age minus seven if it is the other way around.
So ... I can look for someone between the ages of 42 and 131? That's a
pretty wide window, I think I'd prefer to narrow it down a bit.
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2017-05-15 17:19:27 UTC
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Did we
decide the age differnce between Rex and Anisha?
The formula is something like converting Farenheit to Centigrade, isn't
it? Half your own age plus seven is decent. Or double your own age minus
seven if it is the other way around.
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krw
2017-05-15 10:30:18 UTC
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Did we
decide the age differnce between Rex and Anisha?
Not great I think - he is probably just under 30 and I suspect she is
just over.
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Mike
2017-05-15 10:43:31 UTC
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Did we
decide the age differnce between Rex and Anisha?
Not great I think - he is probably just under 30 and I suspect she is
just over.
I feel sure she would vet him before taking up with him seriously.
Fnarr-fnarr.
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2017-05-15 10:56:27 UTC
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Did we
decide the age differnce between Rex and Anisha?
Not great I think - he is probably just under 30 and I suspect she is
just over.
I feel sure she would vet him before taking up with him seriously.
Blimey, that's a bit drastic ! Couldn't they just use a condom ?
Mike
2017-05-15 10:57:33 UTC
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Did we
decide the age differnce between Rex and Anisha?
Not great I think - he is probably just under 30 and I suspect she is
just over.
I feel sure she would vet him before taking up with him seriously.
Blimey, that's a bit drastic ! Couldn't they just use a condom ?
Inconceivable!
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Friday 19th - Peggy surprises her family
I am adopting Kirsty and disinheriting the rest of you.
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