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Radio Times/BBC Credits and Spoilers - week ending 27th July 2018
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carolet
2018-07-19 08:53:06 UTC
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Note that spoilers are included below the cast and crew.

Cast :
Jill Archer - Patricia Greene
David Archer - Timothy Bentinck
Ruth Archer - Felicity Finch
Pip Archer - Daisy Badger
Josh Archer - Angus Imrie
Brian Aldridge - Charles Collingwood
Jennifer Aldridge - Angela Piper
Debbie Aldridge - Tamsin Greig
Phoebe Aldridge - Hollie Chapman
Lilian Bellamy - Sunny Ormonde
Neil Carter - Brian Hewlett
Susan Carter - Charlotte Martin
Chris Carter - Wilf Scolding
Alice Carter - Hollie Chapman
Rex Fairbrother - Nick Barber
Toby Fairbrother - Rhys Bevan
Emma Grundy - Emerald O'Hanrahan
Shula Hebden Lloyd - Judy Bennett
Anisha Jayakody - Anneika Rose
Alistair Lloyd - Michael Lumsden
Adam Macy - Andrew Wincott
Elizabeth Pargetter - Alison Dowling
Lily Pargetter - Katie Redford
Lynda Snell - Carole Boyd

Director : Julie Beckett
Editor : Alison Hindell
Writer : Tim Stimpson

S

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Spoilers:
Sunday 22nd - Pip is in trouble, and Neil finds himself torn.
Monday 23rd - Rex comes to the rescue, and Phoebe smells a rat.
Tuesday 24th - There's a shock for Anisha and an emotional farewell at
Home Farm.
Wednesday 25th - Toby has an announcement to make, and Alice attempts to
be diplomatic.
Thursday 26th - Lily comes clean, and Emma is left disappointed.
Friday 27th - Contemporary drama in a rural setting.



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They are being very mysterious about Friday. RT and BBC both just have a
generic spoiler. I suspect that a shock is planned.


Hollie Chapman is busy this week, apparenty taking on the part of
Phoebe, as well as Alice. Or maybe this is a mistake and Phoebe is still
being voiced by Lucy Morris.




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Serena Blanchflower
2018-07-19 09:16:42 UTC
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On 19/07/2018 09:53, carolet wrote:
> Note that spoilers are included below the cast and crew.
>
> Cast    :
> Jill Archer    -    Patricia Greene
> David Archer    -    Timothy Bentinck
> Ruth Archer    -    Felicity Finch
> Pip Archer    -    Daisy Badger
> Josh Archer    -    Angus Imrie
> Brian Aldridge    -    Charles Collingwood
> Jennifer Aldridge    -    Angela Piper
> Debbie Aldridge    -    Tamsin Greig
> Phoebe Aldridge    -    Hollie Chapman
> Lilian Bellamy    -    Sunny Ormonde
> Neil Carter    -    Brian Hewlett
> Susan Carter    -    Charlotte Martin
> Chris Carter    -    Wilf Scolding
> Alice Carter    -    Hollie Chapman
> Rex Fairbrother    -    Nick Barber
> Toby Fairbrother    -    Rhys Bevan
> Emma Grundy    -    Emerald O'Hanrahan
> Shula Hebden Lloyd    -    Judy Bennett
> Anisha Jayakody    -    Anneika Rose
> Alistair Lloyd    -    Michael Lumsden
> Adam Macy    -    Andrew Wincott
> Elizabeth Pargetter    -    Alison Dowling
> Lily Pargetter    -    Katie Redford
> Lynda Snell    -    Carole Boyd
>
> Director    :    Julie Beckett
> Editor    :    Alison Hindell
> Writer    :    Tim Stimpson
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> Spoilers:
> Sunday 22nd - Pip is in trouble, and Neil finds himself torn.
> Monday 23rd - Rex comes to the rescue, and Phoebe smells a rat.
> Tuesday 24th - There's a shock for Anisha and an emotional farewell at
> Home Farm.
> Wednesday 25th - Toby has an announcement to make, and Alice attempts to
> be diplomatic.
> Thursday 26th - Lily comes clean, and Emma is left disappointed.
> Friday 27th - Contemporary drama in a rural setting.
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> They are being very mysterious about Friday. RT and BBC both just have a
> generic spoiler. I suspect that a shock is planned.
>


I was wondering, last night, when Brian was talking to Adam, whether he
was about to have a (possibly terminal) heart attack, or something of
that nature.


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p***@never.here
2018-07-19 10:03:18 UTC
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On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 10:16:42 +0100, Serena Blanchflower
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>On 19/07/2018 09:53, carolet wrote:
>> Note that spoilers are included below the cast and crew.
>>
>> Cast    :
>> Jill Archer    -    Patricia Greene
>> David Archer    -    Timothy Bentinck
>> Ruth Archer    -    Felicity Finch
>> Pip Archer    -    Daisy Badger
>> Josh Archer    -    Angus Imrie
>> Brian Aldridge    -    Charles Collingwood
>> Jennifer Aldridge    -    Angela Piper
>> Debbie Aldridge    -    Tamsin Greig
>> Phoebe Aldridge    -    Hollie Chapman
>> Lilian Bellamy    -    Sunny Ormonde
>> Neil Carter    -    Brian Hewlett
>> Susan Carter    -    Charlotte Martin
>> Chris Carter    -    Wilf Scolding
>> Alice Carter    -    Hollie Chapman
>> Rex Fairbrother    -    Nick Barber
>> Toby Fairbrother    -    Rhys Bevan
>> Emma Grundy    -    Emerald O'Hanrahan
>> Shula Hebden Lloyd    -    Judy Bennett
>> Anisha Jayakody    -    Anneika Rose
>> Alistair Lloyd    -    Michael Lumsden
>> Adam Macy    -    Andrew Wincott
>> Elizabeth Pargetter    -    Alison Dowling
>> Lily Pargetter    -    Katie Redford
>> Lynda Snell    -    Carole Boyd
>>
>> Director    :    Julie Beckett
>> Editor    :    Alison Hindell
>> Writer    :    Tim Stimpson
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>> S
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>> O
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>> L
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>> E
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>> S
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>> Spoilers:
>> Sunday 22nd - Pip is in trouble, and Neil finds himself torn.
>> Monday 23rd - Rex comes to the rescue, and Phoebe smells a rat.
>> Tuesday 24th - There's a shock for Anisha and an emotional farewell at
>> Home Farm.
>> Wednesday 25th - Toby has an announcement to make, and Alice attempts to
>> be diplomatic.
>> Thursday 26th - Lily comes clean, and Emma is left disappointed.
>> Friday 27th - Contemporary drama in a rural setting.
>>
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>> -------------------------
>>
>> They are being very mysterious about Friday. RT and BBC both just have a
>> generic spoiler. I suspect that a shock is planned.
>>
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>
>I was wondering, last night, when Brian was talking to Adam, whether he
>was about to have a (possibly terminal) heart attack, or something of
>that nature.

A possibility, it was suggested when the Alistair/ Shula divorce saga
started the both her and her husband (Brian) wanted out. No idea
whether there is truth in it.
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Mike
2018-07-19 12:51:58 UTC
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Serena Blanchflower <***@blanchflower.me.uk> wrote:
> On 19/07/2018 09:53, carolet wrote:
>> Note that spoilers are included below the cast and crew.
>>
>> Cast    :
>> Jill Archer    -    Patricia Greene
>> David Archer    -    Timothy Bentinck
>> Ruth Archer    -    Felicity Finch
>> Pip Archer    -    Daisy Badger
>> Josh Archer    -    Angus Imrie
>> Brian Aldridge    -    Charles Collingwood
>> Jennifer Aldridge    -    Angela Piper
>> Debbie Aldridge    -    Tamsin Greig
>> Phoebe Aldridge    -    Hollie Chapman
>> Lilian Bellamy    -    Sunny Ormonde
>> Neil Carter    -    Brian Hewlett
>> Susan Carter    -    Charlotte Martin
>> Chris Carter    -    Wilf Scolding
>> Alice Carter    -    Hollie Chapman
>> Rex Fairbrother    -    Nick Barber
>> Toby Fairbrother    -    Rhys Bevan
>> Emma Grundy    -    Emerald O'Hanrahan
>> Shula Hebden Lloyd    -    Judy Bennett
>> Anisha Jayakody    -    Anneika Rose
>> Alistair Lloyd    -    Michael Lumsden
>> Adam Macy    -    Andrew Wincott
>> Elizabeth Pargetter    -    Alison Dowling
>> Lily Pargetter    -    Katie Redford
>> Lynda Snell    -    Carole Boyd
>>
>> Director    :    Julie Beckett
>> Editor    :    Alison Hindell
>> Writer    :    Tim Stimpson
>>
>> S
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>> P
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>> O
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>> I
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>> E
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>> R
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>> S
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>> Spoilers:
>> Sunday 22nd - Pip is in trouble, and Neil finds himself torn.
>> Monday 23rd - Rex comes to the rescue, and Phoebe smells a rat.
>> Tuesday 24th - There's a shock for Anisha and an emotional farewell at
>> Home Farm.
>> Wednesday 25th - Toby has an announcement to make, and Alice attempts to
>> be diplomatic.
>> Thursday 26th - Lily comes clean, and Emma is left disappointed.
>> Friday 27th - Contemporary drama in a rural setting.
>>
>>
>>
>> -------------------------
>>
>> They are being very mysterious about Friday. RT and BBC both just have a
>> generic spoiler. I suspect that a shock is planned.
>>
>
>
> I was wondering, last night, when Brian was talking to Adam, whether he
> was about to have a (possibly terminal) heart attack, or something of
> that nature.
>
>

Were Brian to KtB, would the fines die with him?

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Serena Blanchflower
2018-07-19 12:56:35 UTC
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On 19/07/2018 13:51, Mike wrote:
> Serena Blanchflower <***@blanchflower.me.uk> wrote:
>> On 19/07/2018 09:53, carolet wrote:
>>> Note that spoilers are included below the cast and crew.
>>>
>>> Cast    :
>>> Jill Archer    -    Patricia Greene
>>> David Archer    -    Timothy Bentinck
>>> Ruth Archer    -    Felicity Finch
>>> Pip Archer    -    Daisy Badger
>>> Josh Archer    -    Angus Imrie
>>> Brian Aldridge    -    Charles Collingwood
>>> Jennifer Aldridge    -    Angela Piper
>>> Debbie Aldridge    -    Tamsin Greig
>>> Phoebe Aldridge    -    Hollie Chapman
>>> Lilian Bellamy    -    Sunny Ormonde
>>> Neil Carter    -    Brian Hewlett
>>> Susan Carter    -    Charlotte Martin
>>> Chris Carter    -    Wilf Scolding
>>> Alice Carter    -    Hollie Chapman
>>> Rex Fairbrother    -    Nick Barber
>>> Toby Fairbrother    -    Rhys Bevan
>>> Emma Grundy    -    Emerald O'Hanrahan
>>> Shula Hebden Lloyd    -    Judy Bennett
>>> Anisha Jayakody    -    Anneika Rose
>>> Alistair Lloyd    -    Michael Lumsden
>>> Adam Macy    -    Andrew Wincott
>>> Elizabeth Pargetter    -    Alison Dowling
>>> Lily Pargetter    -    Katie Redford
>>> Lynda Snell    -    Carole Boyd
>>>
>>> Director    :    Julie Beckett
>>> Editor    :    Alison Hindell
>>> Writer    :    Tim Stimpson
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>>> Spoilers:
>>> Sunday 22nd - Pip is in trouble, and Neil finds himself torn.
>>> Monday 23rd - Rex comes to the rescue, and Phoebe smells a rat.
>>> Tuesday 24th - There's a shock for Anisha and an emotional farewell at
>>> Home Farm.
>>> Wednesday 25th - Toby has an announcement to make, and Alice attempts to
>>> be diplomatic.
>>> Thursday 26th - Lily comes clean, and Emma is left disappointed.
>>> Friday 27th - Contemporary drama in a rural setting.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -------------------------
>>>
>>> They are being very mysterious about Friday. RT and BBC both just have a
>>> generic spoiler. I suspect that a shock is planned.
>>>
>>
>>
>> I was wondering, last night, when Brian was talking to Adam, whether he
>> was about to have a (possibly terminal) heart attack, or something of
>> that nature.
>>
>>
>
> Were Brian to KtB, would the fines die with him?
>

No, his estate would be liable for his debts[1]. He would be immune from
prosecution though and so couldn't be fined, on top of being liable for
the costs of the clean up.

[1] Depending on what he actually owns and what belongs to the business
(and who owns that) it's possible that his estate would be insolvent and
that the Environment Agency would be left out of pocket.

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krw
2018-07-19 13:02:06 UTC
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On 19/7/18 13:51, Mike wrote; my response is lower down:
> Were Brian to KtB, would the fines die with him?

Has he been formally cautioned and charged?

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Serena Blanchflower
2018-07-19 13:36:32 UTC
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On 19/07/2018 14:02, krw wrote:
> On 19/7/18 13:51, Mike wrote; my response is lower down:
>> Were Brian to KtB, would the fines die with him?
>
> Has he been formally cautioned and charged?
>

I don't think so but it's been made clear that he should expect this to
happen. The costs he's facing so far aren't, technically, fines but are
the costs of the clear up operation.

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p***@never.here
2018-07-19 10:06:36 UTC
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On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 09:53:06 +0100, carolet
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>Note that spoilers are included below the cast and crew.
>
>Cast :
>Jill Archer - Patricia Greene
>David Archer - Timothy Bentinck
>Ruth Archer - Felicity Finch
>Pip Archer - Daisy Badger
>Josh Archer - Angus Imrie
>Brian Aldridge - Charles Collingwood
>Jennifer Aldridge - Angela Piper
>Debbie Aldridge - Tamsin Greig
>Phoebe Aldridge - Hollie Chapman
>Lilian Bellamy - Sunny Ormonde
>Neil Carter - Brian Hewlett
>Susan Carter - Charlotte Martin
>Chris Carter - Wilf Scolding
>Alice Carter - Hollie Chapman
>Rex Fairbrother - Nick Barber
>Toby Fairbrother - Rhys Bevan
>Emma Grundy - Emerald O'Hanrahan
>Shula Hebden Lloyd - Judy Bennett
>Anisha Jayakody - Anneika Rose
>Alistair Lloyd - Michael Lumsden
>Adam Macy - Andrew Wincott
>Elizabeth Pargetter - Alison Dowling
>Lily Pargetter - Katie Redford
>Lynda Snell - Carole Boyd
>
>Director : Julie Beckett
>Editor : Alison Hindell
>Writer : Tim Stimpson

I'm sure it's happened before but I've only just noticed it.

I can just imagine Linda's sniffy response at being at the bottom of
the cast list <g>
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carolet
2018-07-19 18:52:28 UTC
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On 19/07/2018 11:06, ***@never.here wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 09:53:06 +0100, carolet
> <***@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>> Note that spoilers are included below the cast and crew.
>>
>> Cast :
>> Jill Archer - Patricia Greene
>> David Archer - Timothy Bentinck
>> Ruth Archer - Felicity Finch
>> Pip Archer - Daisy Badger
>> Josh Archer - Angus Imrie
>> Brian Aldridge - Charles Collingwood
>> Jennifer Aldridge - Angela Piper
>> Debbie Aldridge - Tamsin Greig
>> Phoebe Aldridge - Hollie Chapman
>> Lilian Bellamy - Sunny Ormonde
>> Neil Carter - Brian Hewlett
>> Susan Carter - Charlotte Martin
>> Chris Carter - Wilf Scolding
>> Alice Carter - Hollie Chapman
>> Rex Fairbrother - Nick Barber
>> Toby Fairbrother - Rhys Bevan
>> Emma Grundy - Emerald O'Hanrahan
>> Shula Hebden Lloyd - Judy Bennett
>> Anisha Jayakody - Anneika Rose
>> Alistair Lloyd - Michael Lumsden
>> Adam Macy - Andrew Wincott
>> Elizabeth Pargetter - Alison Dowling
>> Lily Pargetter - Katie Redford
>> Lynda Snell - Carole Boyd
>>
>> Director : Julie Beckett
>> Editor : Alison Hindell
>> Writer : Tim Stimpson
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> I'm sure it's happened before but I've only just noticed it.
>
> I can just imagine Linda's sniffy response at being at the bottom of
> the cast list <g>
>

it is not unusual for her to be bottom of the list.

Regulars are usually listed by alphabetical order of surname, and there
are not many which start with a later letter, those that there are, such
as the following, tend not to appear very frequently:
Coriander Snell
Leonie Snell
Oliver Sterling
Carol Tregorran (possibly Anna, as well)
Roy Tucker (other Tuckers could also appear but probably won't)
Wayne Tucson
Lexi Viktorova
Peggy Woolley

(Robert Snell is usually listed above Lynda.)

Characters that are not firm regulars, just as Ellis and Hannah, also
appear at the bottom, along with one-offs, such as doctors.


Having said that, now that I actually look back at the last 12-months'
worth of cast lists, Lynda seems to be at the bottom only about 3 times,
and is there with others following about 30 times. There have a lot more
non-regular / one-off characters that I thought.

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Peter Percival
2018-07-19 16:11:48 UTC
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carolet wrote:

> Friday 27th - Contemporary drama in a rural setting.

I've never understood contemporary such-and-such. Isn't it two or more
things or people that are contemporary?
krw
2018-07-19 16:23:10 UTC
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On 19/7/18 17:11, Peter Percival wrote; my response is lower down:
> carolet wrote:
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>> Friday 27th - Contemporary drama in a rural setting.
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> I've never understood contemporary such-and-such.  Isn't it two or more
> things or people that are contemporary?
>
Online defintion: adjective
1. living or occurring at the same time.
"the event was recorded by a contemporary historian"

2.
belonging to or occurring in the present.
"the tension and complexities of our contemporary society"

So I assume the interpretation here is the second one - a rurally set
drama taking place in the current time.


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John Ashby
2018-07-19 16:23:40 UTC
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On 19/07/18 17:11, Peter Percival wrote:
> carolet wrote:
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>> Friday 27th - Contemporary drama in a rural setting.
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> I've never understood contemporary such-and-such.  Isn't it two or more
> things or people that are contemporary?
>

No, two or more events may be contemporaneous.

Contemporary means "of the current time".

john
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On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 17:23:40 +0100, John Ashby <***@yahoo.com>
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>On 19/07/18 17:11, Peter Percival wrote:
>> carolet wrote:
>>
>>> Friday 27th - Contemporary drama in a rural setting.
>>
>> I've never understood contemporary such-and-such.  Isn't it two or more
>> things or people that are contemporary?
>>
>
>No, two or more events may be contemporaneous.
>
>Contemporary means "of the current time".
>
>john
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Peter Percival
2018-07-19 19:05:43 UTC
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John Ashby wrote:
> On 19/07/18 17:11, Peter Percival wrote:
>> carolet wrote:
>>
>>> Friday 27th - Contemporary drama in a rural setting.
>>
>> I've never understood contemporary such-and-such.  Isn't it two or
>> more things or people that are contemporary?
>>
>
> No, two or more events may be contemporaneous.

Well, yes, I was including events under things.

>
> Contemporary means "of the current time".
>
> john
Peter Percival
2018-07-29 14:58:31 UTC
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John Ashby wrote:
> On 19/07/18 17:11, Peter Percival wrote:
>> carolet wrote:
>>
>>> Friday 27th - Contemporary drama in a rural setting.
>>
>> I've never understood contemporary such-and-such.  Isn't it two or
>> more things or people that are contemporary?
>>
>
> No, two or more events may be contemporaneous.
>
> Contemporary means "of the current time".

I deg to biffer. It means "of the same time" and therefore is only
applicable to two or more things. That's "things" in the broad sense
that includes people, events,... So one may correctly claim "Aristotle
and Philip II of Macedon were contemporaries" though neither is of the
current time.
Btms
2018-07-19 19:30:34 UTC
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carolet <***@btinternet.com> wrote:
> Note that spoilers are included below the cast and crew.
>
> Cast :
> Jill Archer - Patricia Greene
> David Archer - Timothy Bentinck
> Ruth Archer - Felicity Finch
> Pip Archer - Daisy Badger
> Josh Archer - Angus Imrie
> Brian Aldridge - Charles Collingwood
> Jennifer Aldridge - Angela Piper
> Debbie Aldridge - Tamsin Greig
> Phoebe Aldridge - Hollie Chapman
> Lilian Bellamy - Sunny Ormonde
> Neil Carter - Brian Hewlett
> Susan Carter - Charlotte Martin
> Chris Carter - Wilf Scolding
> Alice Carter - Hollie Chapman
> Rex Fairbrother - Nick Barber
> Toby Fairbrother - Rhys Bevan
> Emma Grundy - Emerald O'Hanrahan
> Shula Hebden Lloyd - Judy Bennett
> Anisha Jayakody - Anneika Rose
> Alistair Lloyd - Michael Lumsden
> Adam Macy - Andrew Wincott
> Elizabeth Pargetter - Alison Dowling
> Lily Pargetter - Katie Redford
> Lynda Snell - Carole Boyd
>
> Director : Julie Beckett
> Editor : Alison Hindell
> Writer : Tim Stimpson
>
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> Spoilers:
> Sunday 22nd - Pip is in trouble, and Neil finds himself torn.

This should be the other way around surely?
> Monday 23rd - Rex comes to the rescue, and Phoebe smells a rat.

Hmmm?

> Tuesday 24th - There's a shock for Anisha

Jolly good

and an emotional farewell at
> Home Farm.

Bye Debbie.

> Wednesday 25th - Toby has an announcement to make,

It’s a boy,
and Alice attempts to
> be diplomatic.

Anf fail, owing to lack of practise.


> Thursday 26th - Lily comes clean,

Really?

and Emma is left disappointed.

She can’t afford the affordable houses.......how often have we tried to
tell her!


> Friday 27th - Contemporary drama in a rural setting.

Yes we know.
>
>
>




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Clive Arthur
2018-07-20 21:57:04 UTC
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On 19/07/2018 09:53, carolet wrote:

> They are being very mysterious about Friday. RT and BBC both just have a
> generic spoiler. I suspect that a shock is planned.

Joe - farmer's lung. Or maybe farmers' lung. Or Farmer Slung.

Possible deathbed revelation about Nic's deathbed revelation.
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Sally Thompson
2018-07-21 07:15:08 UTC
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Clive Arthur <***@nowaytoday.co.uk> wrote:
> On 19/07/2018 09:53, carolet wrote:
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>> They are being very mysterious about Friday. RT and BBC both just have a
>> generic spoiler. I suspect that a shock is planned.
>
> Joe - farmer's lung. Or maybe farmers' lung. Or Farmer Slung.
>
> Possible deathbed revelation about Nic's deathbed revelation.
> Cheers

I think there has been a spoiler on Radio 4 news this morning. A voice from
the past (and no, I'm glad to say it isn't Rob!).

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Clive Arthur
2018-07-21 09:25:53 UTC
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On 21/07/2018 08:15, Sally Thompson wrote:
> Clive Arthur <***@nowaytoday.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 19/07/2018 09:53, carolet wrote:
>>
>>> They are being very mysterious about Friday. RT and BBC both just have a
>>> generic spoiler. I suspect that a shock is planned.
>>
>> Joe - farmer's lung. Or maybe farmers' lung. Or Farmer Slung.
>>
>> Possible deathbed revelation about Nic's deathbed revelation.
>> Cheers
>
> I think there has been a spoiler on Radio 4 news this morning. A voice from
> the past (and no, I'm glad to say it isn't Rob!).
>

Phil already spoke from beyond the grave ("use the force, David", or
something like that), so with luck Walter will turn up.

Cheers
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krw
2018-07-21 09:43:09 UTC
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On 21/7/18 08:15, Sally Thompson wrote; my response is lower down:
> Clive Arthur <***@nowaytoday.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 19/07/2018 09:53, carolet wrote:
>>
>>> They are being very mysterious about Friday. RT and BBC both just have a
>>> generic spoiler. I suspect that a shock is planned.
>>
>> Joe - farmer's lung. Or maybe farmers' lung. Or Farmer Slung.
>>
>> Possible deathbed revelation about Nic's deathbed revelation.
>> Cheers
>
> I think there has been a spoiler on Radio 4 news this morning. A voice from
> the past (and no, I'm glad to say it isn't Rob!).
>
Apparently not previously voiced, so Antony Head does not have to match
up to any previous performer.

A grandfather too any minute. Hope his heart can take it, given that
his daughter has just been murdered in Emmerdale.

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2018-07-21 13:05:37 UTC
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On Sat, 21 Jul 2018 10:43:09 +0100, krw <***@whitnet.uk> wrote:

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>Apparently not previously voiced, so Antony Head does not have to match
>up to any previous performer.

Giles is moving to Ambridge? I wonder how many Slayers he'll bring
with him :-)
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Serena Blanchflower
2018-07-21 08:02:47 UTC
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On 20/07/2018 22:57, Clive Arthur wrote:
> On 19/07/2018 09:53, carolet wrote:
>
>> They are being very mysterious about Friday. RT and BBC both just have
>> a generic spoiler. I suspect that a shock is planned.
>
> Joe - farmer's lung.  Or maybe farmers' lung.  Or Farmer Slung.
>
> Possible deathbed revelation about Nic's deathbed revelation.

I thought Jenny's comment last night, about being able to cope with
losing bricks and mortar, so long as she didn't lose any of the people
she loved, sounded rather ominous.


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Btms
2018-07-21 09:00:16 UTC
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Serena Blanchflower <***@blanchflower.me.uk> wrote:
> On 20/07/2018 22:57, Clive Arthur wrote:
>> On 19/07/2018 09:53, carolet wrote:
>>
>>> They are being very mysterious about Friday. RT and BBC both just have
>>> a generic spoiler. I suspect that a shock is planned.
>>
>> Joe - farmer's lung.  Or maybe farmers' lung.  Or Farmer Slung.
>>
>> Possible deathbed revelation about Nic's deathbed revelation.
>
> I thought Jenny's comment last night, about being able to cope with
> losing bricks and mortar, so long as she didn't lose any of the people
> she loved, sounded rather ominous.
>
>

Hmm..... maybe they have done enough death with the Nic story for the time
being? Hopefully this was an allusion to what the Grundy’s have
experienced recently. But your point is well made. Oh dear.

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John Finlay
2018-07-21 10:51:29 UTC
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On 21/07/2018 10:00, Btms wrote:
> Serena Blanchflower <***@blanchflower.me.uk> wrote:
>> On 20/07/2018 22:57, Clive Arthur wrote:
>>> On 19/07/2018 09:53, carolet wrote:
>>>
>>>> They are being very mysterious about Friday. RT and BBC both just have
>>>> a generic spoiler. I suspect that a shock is planned.
>>>
>>> Joe - farmer's lung.  Or maybe farmers' lung.  Or Farmer Slung.
>>>
>>> Possible deathbed revelation about Nic's deathbed revelation.
>>
>> I thought Jenny's comment last night, about being able to cope with
>> losing bricks and mortar, so long as she didn't lose any of the people
>> she loved, sounded rather ominous.
>>
>>
>
> Hmm..... maybe they have done enough death with the Nic story for the time
> being? Hopefully this was an allusion to what the Grundy’s have
> experienced recently. But your point is well made. Oh dear.
>
I fear Snappy will place an all or nothing bet on a horse, lose it and
decide that there is only one way out of his troubles. Plenty of access
to the right drugs. It would chime in with the current debate about
male suicides.
Mike
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John Finlay <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 21/07/2018 10:00, Btms wrote:
>> Serena Blanchflower <***@blanchflower.me.uk> wrote:
>>> On 20/07/2018 22:57, Clive Arthur wrote:
>>>> On 19/07/2018 09:53, carolet wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> They are being very mysterious about Friday. RT and BBC both just have
>>>>> a generic spoiler. I suspect that a shock is planned.
>>>>
>>>> Joe - farmer's lung.  Or maybe farmers' lung.  Or Farmer Slung.
>>>>
>>>> Possible deathbed revelation about Nic's deathbed revelation.
>>>
>>> I thought Jenny's comment last night, about being able to cope with
>>> losing bricks and mortar, so long as she didn't lose any of the people
>>> she loved, sounded rather ominous.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Hmm..... maybe they have done enough death with the Nic story for the time
>> being? Hopefully this was an allusion to what the Grundy’s have
>> experienced recently. But your point is well made. Oh dear.
>>
> I fear Snappy will place an all or nothing bet on a horse, lose it and
> decide that there is only one way out of his troubles. Plenty of access
> to the right drugs. It would chime in with the current debate about
> male suicides.
>

He could combine his huge card playing losses with drugs, isn’t there
something called Ace?

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Serena Blanchflower
2018-07-21 13:03:24 UTC
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On 21/07/2018 11:51, John Finlay wrote:
> On 21/07/2018 10:00, Btms wrote:
>> Serena Blanchflower <***@blanchflower.me.uk> wrote:
>>> On 20/07/2018 22:57, Clive Arthur wrote:
>>>> On 19/07/2018 09:53, carolet wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> They are being very mysterious about Friday. RT and BBC both just have
>>>>> a generic spoiler. I suspect that a shock is planned.
>>>>
>>>> Joe - farmer's lung.  Or maybe farmers' lung.  Or Farmer Slung.
>>>>
>>>> Possible deathbed revelation about Nic's deathbed revelation.
>>>
>>> I thought Jenny's comment last night, about being able to cope with
>>> losing bricks and mortar, so long as she didn't lose any of the people
>>> she loved, sounded rather ominous.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Hmm..... maybe they have done enough death with the Nic story for the
>> time
>> being?  Hopefully this was an allusion to what the Grundy’s have
>> experienced recently.  But your point is well made.  Oh dear.
>>
> I fear Snappy will place an all or nothing bet on a horse, lose it and
> decide that there is only one way out of his troubles.  Plenty of access
> to the right drugs.  It would chime in with the current debate about
> male suicides.

That sounds all too possible but I really hope they don't take that option.

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Vicky Ayech
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On Sat, 21 Jul 2018 14:03:24 +0100, Serena Blanchflower
<***@blanchflower.me.uk> wrote:

>On 21/07/2018 11:51, John Finlay wrote:
>> On 21/07/2018 10:00, Btms wrote:
>>> Serena Blanchflower <***@blanchflower.me.uk> wrote:
>>>> On 20/07/2018 22:57, Clive Arthur wrote:
>>>>> On 19/07/2018 09:53, carolet wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> They are being very mysterious about Friday. RT and BBC both just have
>>>>>> a generic spoiler. I suspect that a shock is planned.
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe - farmer's lung.  Or maybe farmers' lung.  Or Farmer Slung.
>>>>>
>>>>> Possible deathbed revelation about Nic's deathbed revelation.
>>>>
>>>> I thought Jenny's comment last night, about being able to cope with
>>>> losing bricks and mortar, so long as she didn't lose any of the people
>>>> she loved, sounded rather ominous.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hmm..... maybe they have done enough death with the Nic story for the
>>> time
>>> being?  Hopefully this was an allusion to what the Grundy’s have
>>> experienced recently.  But your point is well made.  Oh dear.
>>>
>> I fear Snappy will place an all or nothing bet on a horse, lose it and
>> decide that there is only one way out of his troubles.  Plenty of access
>> to the right drugs.  It would chime in with the current debate about
>> male suicides.
>
>That sounds all too possible but I really hope they don't take that option.

We had Greg doing it and Will going off to do it until stopped by Ed
and Eddy. We had Ed taking ..was it drugs or drink and getting down
and out and homeless. I think having Snappy top himself after Nigel
daying and the nastiness of the Rob story would be very bad indeed.

There are bound to be deaths soon as many Ambridge residents are
pretty elderly. There will be sadness but does not have to be the
extra misery of suicide. I won't have it! I demand they return to an
EVERY DAY story of country folk. I want to hear about the difficulties
of young people finding housing and jobs locally, about the ups and
downs of farming because of trends, weather, the economy. Just normal
stuff please.
Chris McMillan
2018-07-21 11:55:26 UTC
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Serena Blanchflower <***@blanchflower.me.uk> wrote:
> On 20/07/2018 22:57, Clive Arthur wrote:
>> On 19/07/2018 09:53, carolet wrote:
>>
>>> They are being very mysterious about Friday. RT and BBC both just have
>>> a generic spoiler. I suspect that a shock is planned.
>>
>> Joe - farmer's lung.  Or maybe farmers' lung.  Or Farmer Slung.
>>
>> Possible deathbed revelation about Nic's deathbed revelation.
>
> I thought Jenny's comment last night, about being able to cope with
> losing bricks and mortar, so long as she didn't lose any of the people
> she loved, sounded rather ominous.
>
>

McT reckons she’s probably still not used all her shiny new (kitchen)
gadgets. Brackets to foil Britters!

Sincerely Chris
Mike
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Chris McMillan <***@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> Serena Blanchflower <***@blanchflower.me.uk> wrote:
>> On 20/07/2018 22:57, Clive Arthur wrote:
>>> On 19/07/2018 09:53, carolet wrote:
>>>
>>>> They are being very mysterious about Friday. RT and BBC both just have
>>>> a generic spoiler. I suspect that a shock is planned.
>>>
>>> Joe - farmer's lung.  Or maybe farmers' lung.  Or Farmer Slung.
>>>
>>> Possible deathbed revelation about Nic's deathbed revelation.
>>
>> I thought Jenny's comment last night, about being able to cope with
>> losing bricks and mortar, so long as she didn't lose any of the people
>> she loved, sounded rather ominous.
>>
>>
>
> McT reckons she’s probably still not used all her shiny new (kitchen)
> gadgets. Brackets to foil Britters!
>
> Sincerely Chris
>
>

Britters won’t be put off by a mere pair of brackets! (Mind that hot water
tap by your... ouch! I told you to mind the hot ....)

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On 21/07/2018 14:14, Mike wrote:
> Chris McMillan <***@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> Serena Blanchflower <***@blanchflower.me.uk> wrote:
>>> On 20/07/2018 22:57, Clive Arthur wrote:
>>>> On 19/07/2018 09:53, carolet wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> They are being very mysterious about Friday. RT and BBC both just have
>>>>> a generic spoiler. I suspect that a shock is planned.
>>>>
>>>> Joe - farmer's lung.  Or maybe farmers' lung.  Or Farmer Slung.
>>>>
>>>> Possible deathbed revelation about Nic's deathbed revelation.
>>>
>>> I thought Jenny's comment last night, about being able to cope with
>>> losing bricks and mortar, so long as she didn't lose any of the people
>>> she loved, sounded rather ominous.

>>
>> McT reckons she’s probably still not used all her shiny new (kitchen)
>> gadgets. Brackets to foil Britters!

>
> Britters won’t be put off by a mere pair of brackets!

Quite. He's already loosened his braces...
Mike
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BrritSki <***@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 21/07/2018 14:14, Mike wrote:
>> Chris McMillan <***@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>> Serena Blanchflower <***@blanchflower.me.uk> wrote:
>>>> On 20/07/2018 22:57, Clive Arthur wrote:
>>>>> On 19/07/2018 09:53, carolet wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> They are being very mysterious about Friday. RT and BBC both just have
>>>>>> a generic spoiler. I suspect that a shock is planned.
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe - farmer's lung.  Or maybe farmers' lung.  Or Farmer Slung.
>>>>>
>>>>> Possible deathbed revelation about Nic's deathbed revelation.
>>>>
>>>> I thought Jenny's comment last night, about being able to cope with
>>>> losing bricks and mortar, so long as she didn't lose any of the people
>>>> she loved, sounded rather ominous.
>
>>>
>>> McT reckons she’s probably still not used all her shiny new (kitchen)
>>> gadgets. Brackets to foil Britters!
>
>>
>> Britters won’t be put off by a mere pair of brackets!
>
> Quite. He's already loosened his braces...
>
>

Oooooh, Matron!

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Sally Thompson
2018-07-22 21:13:45 UTC
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carolet <***@btinternet.com> wrote:
> Note that spoilers are included below the cast and crew.
>
>
>
>
> Spoilers:
> Sunday 22nd - Pip is in trouble, and Neil finds himself torn.
> Monday 23rd - Rex comes to the rescue, and Phoebe smells a rat.
> Tuesday 24th - There's a shock for Anisha and an emotional farewell at
> Home Farm.
> Wednesday 25th - Toby has an announcement to make, and Alice attempts to
> be diplomatic.
> Thursday 26th - Lily comes clean, and Emma is left disappointed.
> Friday 27th - Contemporary drama in a rural setting.
>



I think Monday's spoiler becomes more obvious after tonight. Not that it's
a surprise to anyone. Presumabubbly that tips Rex into not leaving, hence
shock for Anisha.

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Btms
2018-07-23 08:10:01 UTC
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Sally Thompson <***@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> carolet <***@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> Note that spoilers are included below the cast and crew.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Spoilers:
>> Sunday 22nd - Pip is in trouble, and Neil finds himself torn.
>> Monday 23rd - Rex comes to the rescue, and Phoebe smells a rat.
>> Tuesday 24th - There's a shock for Anisha and an emotional farewell at
>> Home Farm.
>> Wednesday 25th - Toby has an announcement to make, and Alice attempts to
>> be diplomatic.
>> Thursday 26th - Lily comes clean, and Emma is left disappointed.
>> Friday 27th - Contemporary drama in a rural setting.
>>
>
>
>
> I think Monday's spoiler becomes more obvious after tonight. Not that it's
> a surprise to anyone. Presumabubbly that tips Rex into not leaving, hence
> shock for Anisha.
>

Looks like Emma will discover that affordable housing isn’t affordable for
the likes of Emmur!

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krw
2018-08-05 15:03:00 UTC
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On 23/7/18 09:10, Btms wrote; my response is lower down:
> Looks like Emma will discover that affordable housing isn’t affordable for
> the likes of Emmur!

Another drug induced musing on the future of the village led to a
consideration of Oliver and the Grundys. This is complicated.

Oliver goes to see Shula and is the first person he tells he really is
retiring, but not as Joint Master as he plans to buy one of Damara's new
house and they discuss the impact on both the Grundies and Grey Gables
which is concerning. There is a gap and at the end of it Oliver thanks
Shula for her help, he has made his mind up.

He invites Eddie, Clarrie, Ed and Emmur to a private dinner on a subject
that cannot be discussed outside the room and not with other people. He
reveals his decision to sell Gray Gables but this does not mean he will
want to end their tenancy as he will live elsewhere - in fact the
opposite is true. He wants to create a new special tenancy agreement
for the Grange farmhouse with all four of the Grundies as tenants. The
contract will also contain a fixed, current market price for the
farmhouse (yes I know it is more than Emmur could afford). That price
will only change in on direction before they exercise the option to buy
the farmhouse where half of the rent the Grundys pay each month will
reduce the purchase price.

If they never buy it then they pay the same rent as now. If they do buy
it then the price is ever reducing; there would probably need to be some
clause predicating events at the time of Oliver's death but we know they
do not like detail.

Eddie and Clarrie will know they will never be able to buy it - but you
can bet Emmur has them all signed up before Joe is in his wooden box and
makes it happen somehow. Even if it means summer visitors all year round!

And then finally Oliver meets Kathy (if she can be dug up), Ian and Roy.
The two men have been constantly bothering him and Kathy with ever
more radical marketing ideas and he knows his heart is not in it. He
will be nearby but he says he wants to work out a way that they can buy
the hotel and then move into the new world. Later we hear the three of
them and Kathy has thought it through but she realises that she also
needs to retire. With Oliver's agreement Kirsty is brought in on the
deal and over a period of months a buy out deal is worked out so that
Oliver can buy his house now and gets an earnout over the next few years
(again Oliver's age needs protection). I have separate plans for Kathy.

I think the dynamic of Ian, Roy (I have a much shorter story for him as
well as one for Kirsty) plus Kirsty working together at Grey Gables
might give us some stories and a location for intrigue in at least one
other storyline.

BTW shut me up if bored.

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Sorry, Newstap has removed everything. Well thought out, KRW.

Sincerely Chris
Vicky Ayech
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On Sun, 5 Aug 2018 16:03:00 +0100, krw <***@whitnet.uk> wrote:

>On 23/7/18 09:10, Btms wrote; my response is lower down:
>> Looks like Emma will discover that affordable housing isn’t affordable for
>> the likes of Emmur!
>
>Another drug induced musing on the future of the village led to a
>consideration of Oliver and the Grundys. This is complicated.
>
>Oliver goes to see Shula and is the first person he tells he really is
>retiring, but not as Joint Master as he plans to buy one of Damara's new
>house and they discuss the impact on both the Grundies and Grey Gables
>which is concerning. There is a gap and at the end of it Oliver thanks
>Shula for her help, he has made his mind up.
>
>He invites Eddie, Clarrie, Ed and Emmur to a private dinner on a subject
>that cannot be discussed outside the room and not with other people. He
>reveals his decision to sell Gray Gables but this does not mean he will
>want to end their tenancy as he will live elsewhere - in fact the
>opposite is true. He wants to create a new special tenancy agreement
>for the Grange farmhouse with all four of the Grundies as tenants. The
>contract will also contain a fixed, current market price for the
>farmhouse (yes I know it is more than Emmur could afford). That price
>will only change in on direction before they exercise the option to buy
>the farmhouse where half of the rent the Grundys pay each month will
>reduce the purchase price.
>
>If they never buy it then they pay the same rent as now. If they do buy
>it then the price is ever reducing; there would probably need to be some
>clause predicating events at the time of Oliver's death but we know they
>do not like detail.
>
>Eddie and Clarrie will know they will never be able to buy it - but you
>can bet Emmur has them all signed up before Joe is in his wooden box and
>makes it happen somehow. Even if it means summer visitors all year round!
>
>And then finally Oliver meets Kathy (if she can be dug up), Ian and Roy.
> The two men have been constantly bothering him and Kathy with ever
>more radical marketing ideas and he knows his heart is not in it. He
>will be nearby but he says he wants to work out a way that they can buy
>the hotel and then move into the new world. Later we hear the three of
>them and Kathy has thought it through but she realises that she also
>needs to retire. With Oliver's agreement Kirsty is brought in on the
>deal and over a period of months a buy out deal is worked out so that
>Oliver can buy his house now and gets an earnout over the next few years
>(again Oliver's age needs protection). I have separate plans for Kathy.
>
>I think the dynamic of Ian, Roy (I have a much shorter story for him as
>well as one for Kirsty) plus Kirsty working together at Grey Gables
>might give us some stories and a location for intrigue in at least one
>other storyline.
>
>BTW shut me up if bored.


Is Kathy too old for Snappy?
Mike
2018-08-05 17:56:55 UTC
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Vicky Ayech <***@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 5 Aug 2018 16:03:00 +0100, krw <***@whitnet.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 23/7/18 09:10, Btms wrote; my response is lower down:
>>> Looks like Emma will discover that affordable housing isn’t affordable for
>>> the likes of Emmur!
>>
>> Another drug induced musing on the future of the village led to a
>> consideration of Oliver and the Grundys. This is complicated.
>>
>> Oliver goes to see Shula and is the first person he tells he really is
>> retiring, but not as Joint Master as he plans to buy one of Damara's new
>> house and they discuss the impact on both the Grundies and Grey Gables
>> which is concerning. There is a gap and at the end of it Oliver thanks
>> Shula for her help, he has made his mind up.
>>
>> He invites Eddie, Clarrie, Ed and Emmur to a private dinner on a subject
>> that cannot be discussed outside the room and not with other people. He
>> reveals his decision to sell Gray Gables but this does not mean he will
>> want to end their tenancy as he will live elsewhere - in fact the
>> opposite is true. He wants to create a new special tenancy agreement
>> for the Grange farmhouse with all four of the Grundies as tenants. The
>> contract will also contain a fixed, current market price for the
>> farmhouse (yes I know it is more than Emmur could afford). That price
>> will only change in on direction before they exercise the option to buy
>> the farmhouse where half of the rent the Grundys pay each month will
>> reduce the purchase price.
>>
>> If they never buy it then they pay the same rent as now. If they do buy
>> it then the price is ever reducing; there would probably need to be some
>> clause predicating events at the time of Oliver's death but we know they
>> do not like detail.
>>
>> Eddie and Clarrie will know they will never be able to buy it - but you
>> can bet Emmur has them all signed up before Joe is in his wooden box and
>> makes it happen somehow. Even if it means summer visitors all year round!
>>
>> And then finally Oliver meets Kathy (if she can be dug up), Ian and Roy.
>> The two men have been constantly bothering him and Kathy with ever
>> more radical marketing ideas and he knows his heart is not in it. He
>> will be nearby but he says he wants to work out a way that they can buy
>> the hotel and then move into the new world. Later we hear the three of
>> them and Kathy has thought it through but she realises that she also
>> needs to retire. With Oliver's agreement Kirsty is brought in on the
>> deal and over a period of months a buy out deal is worked out so that
>> Oliver can buy his house now and gets an earnout over the next few years
>> (again Oliver's age needs protection). I have separate plans for Kathy.
>>
>> I think the dynamic of Ian, Roy (I have a much shorter story for him as
>> well as one for Kirsty) plus Kirsty working together at Grey Gables
>> might give us some stories and a location for intrigue in at least one
>> other storyline.
>>
>> BTW shut me up if bored.
>
>
> Is Kathy too old for Snappy?
>

Shula has been rather ‘snappy’ of late.

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Btms
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Mike <***@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> Vicky Ayech <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 5 Aug 2018 16:03:00 +0100, krw <***@whitnet.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 23/7/18 09:10, Btms wrote; my response is lower down:
>>>> Looks like Emma will discover that affordable housing isn’t affordable for
>>>> the likes of Emmur!
>>>
>>> Another drug induced musing on the future of the village led to a
>>> consideration of Oliver and the Grundys. This is complicated.
>>>
>>> Oliver goes to see Shula and is the first person he tells he really is
>>> retiring, but not as Joint Master as he plans to buy one of Damara's new
>>> house and they discuss the impact on both the Grundies and Grey Gables
>>> which is concerning. There is a gap and at the end of it Oliver thanks
>>> Shula for her help, he has made his mind up.
>>>
>>> He invites Eddie, Clarrie, Ed and Emmur to a private dinner on a subject
>>> that cannot be discussed outside the room and not with other people. He
>>> reveals his decision to sell Gray Gables but this does not mean he will
>>> want to end their tenancy as he will live elsewhere - in fact the
>>> opposite is true. He wants to create a new special tenancy agreement
>>> for the Grange farmhouse with all four of the Grundies as tenants. The
>>> contract will also contain a fixed, current market price for the
>>> farmhouse (yes I know it is more than Emmur could afford). That price
>>> will only change in on direction before they exercise the option to buy
>>> the farmhouse where half of the rent the Grundys pay each month will
>>> reduce the purchase price.
>>>
>>> If they never buy it then they pay the same rent as now. If they do buy
>>> it then the price is ever reducing; there would probably need to be some
>>> clause predicating events at the time of Oliver's death but we know they
>>> do not like detail.
>>>
>>> Eddie and Clarrie will know they will never be able to buy it - but you
>>> can bet Emmur has them all signed up before Joe is in his wooden box and
>>> makes it happen somehow. Even if it means summer visitors all year round!
>>>
>>> And then finally Oliver meets Kathy (if she can be dug up), Ian and Roy.
>>> The two men have been constantly bothering him and Kathy with ever
>>> more radical marketing ideas and he knows his heart is not in it. He
>>> will be nearby but he says he wants to work out a way that they can buy
>>> the hotel and then move into the new world. Later we hear the three of
>>> them and Kathy has thought it through but she realises that she also
>>> needs to retire. With Oliver's agreement Kirsty is brought in on the
>>> deal and over a period of months a buy out deal is worked out so that
>>> Oliver can buy his house now and gets an earnout over the next few years
>>> (again Oliver's age needs protection). I have separate plans for Kathy.
>>>
>>> I think the dynamic of Ian, Roy (I have a much shorter story for him as
>>> well as one for Kirsty) plus Kirsty working together at Grey Gables
>>> might give us some stories and a location for intrigue in at least one
>>> other storyline.
>>>
>>> BTW shut me up if bored.
>>
>>
>> Is Kathy too old for Snappy?
>>
>
> Shula has been rather ‘snappy’ of late.
>

Was it something we said?

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Fenny
2018-08-05 23:04:06 UTC
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>
>
>Is Kathy too old for Snappy?

Well, she was involved with Kenton at one point, who is the same age
as Shula. Whether that makes her too old for Alistair is a different
matter.
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carolet
2018-08-05 23:21:29 UTC
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On 05/08/2018 18:24, Vicky Ayech wrote:
> On Sun, 5 Aug 2018 16:03:00 +0100, krw <***@whitnet.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 23/7/18 09:10, Btms wrote; my response is lower down:
>>> Looks like Emma will discover that affordable housing isn’t affordable for
>>> the likes of Emmur!
>>
>> Another drug induced musing on the future of the village led to a
>> consideration of Oliver and the Grundys. This is complicated.
>>
>> Oliver goes to see Shula and is the first person he tells he really is
>> retiring, but not as Joint Master as he plans to buy one of Damara's new
>> house and they discuss the impact on both the Grundies and Grey Gables
>> which is concerning. There is a gap and at the end of it Oliver thanks
>> Shula for her help, he has made his mind up.
>>
>> He invites Eddie, Clarrie, Ed and Emmur to a private dinner on a subject
>> that cannot be discussed outside the room and not with other people. He
>> reveals his decision to sell Gray Gables but this does not mean he will
>> want to end their tenancy as he will live elsewhere - in fact the
>> opposite is true. He wants to create a new special tenancy agreement
>> for the Grange farmhouse with all four of the Grundies as tenants. The
>> contract will also contain a fixed, current market price for the
>> farmhouse (yes I know it is more than Emmur could afford). That price
>> will only change in on direction before they exercise the option to buy
>> the farmhouse where half of the rent the Grundys pay each month will
>> reduce the purchase price.
>>
>> If they never buy it then they pay the same rent as now. If they do buy
>> it then the price is ever reducing; there would probably need to be some
>> clause predicating events at the time of Oliver's death but we know they
>> do not like detail.
>>
>> Eddie and Clarrie will know they will never be able to buy it - but you
>> can bet Emmur has them all signed up before Joe is in his wooden box and
>> makes it happen somehow. Even if it means summer visitors all year round!
>>
>> And then finally Oliver meets Kathy (if she can be dug up), Ian and Roy.
>> The two men have been constantly bothering him and Kathy with ever
>> more radical marketing ideas and he knows his heart is not in it. He
>> will be nearby but he says he wants to work out a way that they can buy
>> the hotel and then move into the new world. Later we hear the three of
>> them and Kathy has thought it through but she realises that she also
>> needs to retire. With Oliver's agreement Kirsty is brought in on the
>> deal and over a period of months a buy out deal is worked out so that
>> Oliver can buy his house now and gets an earnout over the next few years
>> (again Oliver's age needs protection). I have separate plans for Kathy.
>>
>> I think the dynamic of Ian, Roy (I have a much shorter story for him as
>> well as one for Kirsty) plus Kirsty working together at Grey Gables
>> might give us some stories and a location for intrigue in at least one
>> other storyline.
>>
>> BTW shut me up if bored.
>
>
> Is Kathy too old for Snappy?
>


Kathy Perks was born 30/01/1953, current age 65.
Shula Hebden Lloyd was born 08/08/1958, current age 59.

We don't have an age for Alistair, as far as I can see, but if he is a
suitable age for Shula, then someone a mere 5 or 6 years older can't be
out of the question on age grounds. He may even be closer to Kathy's age
than Shula's.




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2018-08-06 17:26:56 UTC
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On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 00:21:29 +0100, carolet
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>Kathy Perks was born 30/01/1953, current age 65.

Wow! I remember her being a teacher back in the day, when Lucy Perks
was still at school. Jamie can't be more than early 20s, as he left
school after deciding 6th form wasn't for him and it's not *that* long
ago. [1]

[1] Within the last 10 years, definitely, but probably less than that.
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On 06/08/2018 18:26, Fenny wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 00:21:29 +0100, carolet
> <***@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Kathy Perks was born 30/01/1953, current age 65.
>
> Wow! I remember her being a teacher back in the day, when Lucy Perks
> was still at school. Jamie can't be more than early 20s, as he left
> school after deciding 6th form wasn't for him and it's not *that* long
> ago. [1]
>
> [1] Within the last 10 years, definitely, but probably less than that.
>


Jamie Perks was born 20/07/1995, current age 23.

So Kathy was getting on a bit when he came along, I seem to recall that
he wasn't exactly planned though. Sid an Kathy were married 24/04/1987.


Lucy Gemmell was born 12/12/1971, current age 46.
Kathy is 19 years older that Lucy, so no problem with her being Lucy's
teacher.


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Serena Blanchflower
2018-08-06 21:38:24 UTC
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On 06/08/2018 22:08, carolet wrote:
> Jamie Perks was born 20/07/1995, current age 23.
>
> So Kathy was getting on a bit when he came along, I seem to recall that
> he wasn't exactly planned though. Sid an Kathy were married 24/04/1987.

No, he wasn't. IIRC, Sid and Kathy went out to New Zealand, to visit
Lucy and, because of the different time zones, Kathy wasn't taking the
pill at the proper times. Jamie was the result of this.

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>Jamie Perks was born 20/07/1995, current age 23.

Another forgotten character. He was doing an apprenticeship and we
never heard anything about it.
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Mike
2018-08-07 17:39:44 UTC
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Fenny <***@removethis.gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 22:08:36 +0100, carolet
> <***@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Jamie Perks was born 20/07/1995, current age 23.
>
> Another forgotten character. He was doing an apprenticeship and we
> never heard anything about it.

Ah! The penny drops! His real name is Frederic and he is still indentured
to a pirate somewhere in the China Seas. Err.... his birthday is Feb. 29th.
Innit?

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> Fenny <***@removethis.gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 22:08:36 +0100, carolet
> > <***@btinternet.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Jamie Perks was born 20/07/1995, current age 23.
> >
> > Another forgotten character. He was doing an apprenticeship and we
> > never heard anything about it.
>
> Ah! The penny drops! His real name is Frederic and he is still indentured
> to a pirate somewhere in the China Seas. Err.... his birthday is Feb. 29th.
> Innit?

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>Fenny <***@removethis.gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 22:08:36 +0100, carolet
>> <***@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Jamie Perks was born 20/07/1995, current age 23.
>>
>> Another forgotten character. He was doing an apprenticeship and we
>> never heard anything about it.
>
>Ah! The penny drops! His real name is Frederic and he is still indentured
>to a pirate somewhere in the China Seas. Err.... his birthday is Feb. 29th.
>Innit?

But he reached his one and twentieth birthday in NINETEEN FORTY!

As long as he's doing his duty, everything will be fine.
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Chris McMillan
2018-07-23 15:29:12 UTC
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Sally Thompson <***@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> carolet <***@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> Note that spoilers are included below the cast and crew.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Spoilers:
>> Sunday 22nd - Pip is in trouble, and Neil finds himself torn.
>> Monday 23rd - Rex comes to the rescue, and Phoebe smells a rat.
>> Tuesday 24th - There's a shock for Anisha and an emotional farewell at
>> Home Farm.
>> Wednesday 25th - Toby has an announcement to make, and Alice attempts to
>> be diplomatic.
>> Thursday 26th - Lily comes clean, and Emma is left disappointed.
>> Friday 27th - Contemporary drama in a rural setting.
>>
>
>
>
> I think Monday's spoiler becomes more obvious after tonight. Not that it's
> a surprise to anyone. Presumabubbly that tips Rex into not leaving, hence
> shock for Anisha.
>

Ditto.

Sincerely Chris
Btms
2018-07-23 17:47:21 UTC
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Chris McMillan <***@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> Sally Thompson <***@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>> carolet <***@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>> Note that spoilers are included below the cast and crew.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Spoilers:
>>> Sunday 22nd - Pip is in trouble, and Neil finds himself torn.
>>> Monday 23rd - Rex comes to the rescue, and Phoebe smells a rat.
>>> Tuesday 24th - There's a shock for Anisha and an emotional farewell at
>>> Home Farm.
>>> Wednesday 25th - Toby has an announcement to make, and Alice attempts to
>>> be diplomatic.
>>> Thursday 26th - Lily comes clean, and Emma is left disappointed.
>>> Friday 27th - Contemporary drama in a rural setting.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I think Monday's spoiler becomes more obvious after tonight. Not that it's
>> a surprise to anyone. Presumabubbly that tips Rex into not leaving, hence
>> shock for Anisha.
>>
>
> Ditto.
>
> Sincerely Chris
>
>

I’d like that.

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