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Rosalind Mitchell
2017-06-27 13:55:54 UTC
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Feasgar math mopmoibhean! Ciamar a tha sibh?


I felt this urge to drop in and see what's happening here. I haven't
been listening to a certain FOAD on the wireless for a long time now
because my media consumption has changed considerably and to be
perfectly honest I don't much care. But I do enjoy the films of Michael
Powell and Emeric Pressburger, so can I still join in from time to time?
And although I am in contact with many umrats there are others that I miss.

Remember, you can take Ros** out of Umra but you can't take Umra out of
Ros** :)

Rosqb
Penny
2017-06-27 14:23:10 UTC
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Feasgar math mopmoibhean! Ciamar a tha sibh?
Mopmoibhean - is toigh leam e :)
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Rosalind Mitchell
2017-06-27 14:54:33 UTC
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Feasgar math mopmoibhean! Ciamar a tha sibh?
Mopmoibhean - is toigh leam e :)
Tapadh leat a Phenidh :)

Rosqb
Steve Hague
2017-06-27 15:21:50 UTC
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Feasgar math mopmoibhean! Ciamar a tha sibh?
Mopmoibhean - is toigh leam e :)
Tapadh leat a Phenidh :)
Rosqb
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Penny
2017-06-27 18:47:41 UTC
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Feasgar math mopmoibhean! Ciamar a tha sibh?
Mopmoibhean - is toigh leam e :)
Tapadh leat a Phenidh :)
Phenidh rather than Peanaidh?

I used to be able to pronounce Scots Gaelic (I blame Compton Mackenzie) if
it was written down. I can sometimes guess what it means from scant
knowledge of the Welsh and Irish versions. Very pleased to see Google
translate now includes it so I don't need to use the Irish version on the
rare occasions I need to check something.
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Jenny M Benson
2017-06-27 20:54:59 UTC
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(I blame Compton Mackenzie)
I was told by my paternal grandmother that we are related to him (and
Fay Compton) but it's frustrating me that I haven't yet been able to
trace their family back far enough to confirm or deny this.
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Btms
2017-06-28 06:28:04 UTC
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(I blame Compton Mackenzie)
I was told by my paternal grandmother that we are related to him (and
Fay Compton) but it's frustrating me that I haven't yet been able to
trace their family back far enough to confirm or deny this.
My Mother said we were related to Elton John! Oh how we larfed.

After she had died, it turned out she was right.

Granny may well be right.
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Nick Odell
2017-06-28 11:04:59 UTC
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(I blame Compton Mackenzie)
I was told by my paternal grandmother that we are related to him (and
Fay Compton) but it's frustrating me that I haven't yet been able to
trace their family back far enough to confirm or deny this.
My Mother said we were related to Elton John! Oh how we larfed.
After she had died, it turned out she was right.
Granny may well be right.
I used to work with a chap who was related to Elton John. Do you suppose
EHJ/RKD might be one of those people like Vlad the Impaler[1] who it
turns out we are all related to in some way or other?

Nick
[1]Other historical figures of magnitude are available
Jenny M Benson
2017-06-28 12:00:50 UTC
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I used to work with a chap who was related to Elton John. Do you suppose
EHJ/RKD might be one of those people like Vlad the Impaler[1] who it
turns out we are all related to in some way or other?
Not related to EHJ as far as i know, but I was in the same mains Maths
group as his sister-in-law at Teacher Training College.
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Btms
2017-06-28 13:07:15 UTC
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(I blame Compton Mackenzie)
I was told by my paternal grandmother that we are related to him (and
Fay Compton) but it's frustrating me that I haven't yet been able to
trace their family back far enough to confirm or deny this.
My Mother said we were related to Elton John! Oh how we larfed.
After she had died, it turned out she was right.
Granny may well be right.
I used to work with a chap who was related to Elton John. Do you suppose
EHJ/RKD might be one of those people like Vlad the Impaler[1] who it
turns out we are all related to in some way or other?
Nick
[1]Other historical figures of magnitude are available
Well in my case no. But very distant. My cousin married his cousin.
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Penny
2017-06-28 12:27:03 UTC
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(I blame Compton Mackenzie)
I was told by my paternal grandmother that we are related to him (and
Fay Compton) but it's frustrating me that I haven't yet been able to
trace their family back far enough to confirm or deny this.
Out of curiosity I just looked up Edward Montague Compton Mackenzie on
famlysearch.org and found that on the 1901 census his birthplace has been
transcribed as West Hastlepool :)
(There was a servant called Gertrude Mayes in the household, she was born
in Norfolk - I wonder if she was connected with husgod's family.)

Fay Compton (Virginia Mackenzie) was his sister - but you probably knew
that. As was Viola Compton, another film actress. His grandfather appeared
on stage as Henry Compton though his real name was Charles Mackenzie.
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Jenny M Benson
2017-06-28 14:58:27 UTC
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Fay Compton (Virginia Mackenzie) was his sister - but you probably knew
that. As was Viola Compton, another film actress. His grandfather appeared
on stage as Henry Compton though his real name was Charles Mackenzie.
Yes. The Compton name came from a previous generation and it is through
the Comptons we are supposedly related. A 4th Great Grandmother of mine
was Amy Compton, born 1779 in Coln St Aldwayn, Glos of parents John
Compton & Hannah West.

Annoyingly I think I've now lost the piece of paper on which I had
recorded the Mackenzie/Compton tree as far back as I had traced it.

I'm also said to be doubly related to Hannah West, a 3rd Great
Grandmother, Maria West, probably being the great-niece of Hannah, but
it's something else I have yet to prove. It gets more difficult back in
the 1700s!
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Penny
2017-06-28 15:39:33 UTC
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Fay Compton (Virginia Mackenzie) was his sister - but you probably knew
that. As was Viola Compton, another film actress. His grandfather appeared
on stage as Henry Compton though his real name was Charles Mackenzie.
Yes. The Compton name came from a previous generation and it is through
the Comptons we are supposedly related. A 4th Great Grandmother of mine
was Amy Compton, born 1779 in Coln St Aldwayn, Glos of parents John
Compton & Hannah West.
Annoyingly I think I've now lost the piece of paper on which I had
recorded the Mackenzie/Compton tree as far back as I had traced it.
May I commend one of the genealogy sites for recording such things, rather
than scraps of paper. Most of them have free weekends from time to time and
suggest connections.

That said, I have so far failed to find the connection between my forebears
and Valentine Dyall although I remember seeing him on a family tree my
grandmother had. Maybe I should try tracing his tree...
Post by Jenny M Benson
I'm also said to be doubly related to Hannah West, a 3rd Great
Grandmother, Maria West, probably being the great-niece of Hannah, but
it's something else I have yet to prove. It gets more difficult back in
the 1700s!
It certainly does - old newspapers can be helpful and findmypast.co.uk
includes searches of the British Newspaper Archive.

Cousin marriages tend to confuse things, especially when they occur within
large families who all tend to use the same 'family' forenames.
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Peter Percival
2017-06-28 16:08:16 UTC
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Cousin marriages tend to confuse things, especially when they occur
within large families who all tend to use the same 'family'
forenames.
And then there are double cousins like Arthur and Raymond Smullyan and
their sister-wives.
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I think I had better not, Duchess. Nowadays to be intelligible is
to be found out. -- Oscar Wilde, Lady Windermere's Fan
Jenny M Benson
2017-06-29 09:49:00 UTC
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May I commend one of the genealogy sites for recording such things, rather
than scraps of paper.
I have trees in several places online, as well as using Legacy on my
computer, but in this instance I didn't want to take the time to record
it all properly until I could see my way to getting nearer to joining
the 2 families.
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Cousin marriages tend to confuse things, especially when they occur within
large families who all tend to use the same 'family' forenames.
Fell into that trap many years ago when I first started researching.
One of my ancestors had a second wife whose father had what I thought
was a very distinctive name. It wasn't until I ended up with the
supposed marriage of a brother and sister that I realised I had gone
wrong somewhere! The marriage was actually between 1st cousins.
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2017-06-29 11:28:06 UTC
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Cousin marriages tend to confuse things, especially when they occur within
large families who all tend to use the same 'family' forenames.
Fell into that trap many years ago when I first started researching.
One of my ancestors had a second wife whose father had what I thought
was a very distinctive name. It wasn't until I ended up with the
supposed marriage of a brother and sister that I realised I had gone
wrong somewhere! The marriage was actually between 1st cousins.
I had a quick look at Valentine Dyall's tree yesterday and found his
mother's second husband had the same first name as his own father and one
of their twin sons. Some of the obituaries seemed to have confused them
too. It didn't help that the mother, an actress under her own name, also
wrote under a pseudonym which now seems to be the name of a training shoe.
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the Omrud
2017-06-29 13:03:21 UTC
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I had a quick look at Valentine Dyall's tree yesterday and found his
mother's second husband had the same first name as his own father and one
of their twin sons.
Oooh, I know this one. I am my own grandmother.
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Paul Herber
2017-06-28 09:41:56 UTC
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Feasgar math mopmoibhean! Ciamar a tha sibh?
Mopmoibhean - is toigh leam e :)
Tapadh leat a Phenidh :)
Phenidh rather than Peanaidh?
I used to be able to pronounce Scots Gaelic (I blame Compton Mackenzie)
who, of course, went on to further fame as the son of Denis Compton.
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2017-07-10 17:25:09 UTC
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Feasgar math mopmoibhean! Ciamar a tha sibh?
Mopmoibhean - is toigh leam e :)
Tapadh leat a Phenidh :)
Phenidh rather than Peanaidh?
Yes, definitely with Ph at the beginning. Could be a' Pheanaidh or a'
Phenidh, depending on whether you are Penidh or Peneaidh. But aspiration
of the initial consonant is mandatory in the vocative case.

Anne B

Peter Percival
2017-06-27 16:11:13 UTC
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Feasgar math mopmoibhean! Ciamar a tha sibh?
Tha mi gu math, tapadh leibh.
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I felt this urge to drop in and see what's happening here. I haven't
been listening to a certain FOAD on the wireless for a long time now
because my media consumption has changed considerably and to be
perfectly honest I don't much care. But I do enjoy the films of
Michael Powell and Emeric Pressburger,
Ha, ha. Very good!
Post by Rosalind Mitchell
so can I still join in from
time to time? And although I am in contact with many umrats there are
others that I miss.
Remember, you can take Ros** out of Umra but you can't take Umra out
of Ros** :)
Rosqb
--
Do, as a concession to my poor wits, Lord Darlington, just explain
to me what you really mean.
I think I had better not, Duchess. Nowadays to be intelligible is
to be found out. -- Oscar Wilde, Lady Windermere's Fan
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2017-06-27 16:29:28 UTC
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..., so can I still join in from time to time?
Of course ! Once an umrat, always an umrat :)
And although I am in contact with many umrats there are others that I miss.
Aw, I'm touched Rosie ;)
Rosalind Mitchell
2017-06-27 17:21:11 UTC
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..., so can I still join in from time to time?
Of course ! Once an umrat, always an umrat :)
And although I am in contact with many umrats there are others that I miss.
Aw, I'm touched Rosie ;)
I've believed that for a long time, Roger ;)

But I am occasionally in contact with you in Another Place. I heartily
agreed with you about something not two weeks ago!

Rosqb
BrritSki
2017-06-27 19:39:16 UTC
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..., so can I still join in from time to time?
Of course ! Once an umrat, always an umrat :)
And although I am in contact with many umrats there are others that I miss.
Aw, I'm touched Rosie ;)
I've believed that for a long time, Roger ;)
I was sure you'd spot the double entendre :)
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But I am occasionally in contact with you in Another Place. I heartily
agreed with you about something not two weeks ago!
Indeed, and I "liked" your comment iirc.
Sid Nuncius
2017-06-28 05:07:16 UTC
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..., so can I still join in from time to time?
Of course ! Once an umrat, always an umrat :)
And although I am in contact with many umrats there are others that I miss.
Aw, I'm touched Rosie ;)
I've believed that for a long time, Roger ;)
I was sure you'd spot the double entendre :)
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But I am occasionally in contact with you in Another Place. I heartily
agreed with you about something not two weeks ago!
Indeed, and I "liked" your comment iirc.
All right - who are you two and what have you done with Rosie and
Brritski? :o)
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Nick Odell
2017-06-29 10:57:42 UTC
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..., so can I still join in from time to time?
Of course ! Once an umrat, always an umrat :)
And although I am in contact with many umrats there are others that I miss.
Aw, I'm touched Rosie ;)
I've believed that for a long time, Roger ;)
But I am occasionally in contact with you in Another Place. I heartily
agreed with you about something not two weeks ago!
Enough of the small talk: we should move on to the serious matters of
life - has Britain's first Tim Horton's now opened on Argyle Street and
is the Maple Pecan Danish as good as the Canadian version?

Nick
Rosalind Mitchell
2017-06-29 15:37:32 UTC
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..., so can I still join in from time to time?
Of course ! Once an umrat, always an umrat :)
And although I am in contact with many umrats there are others that I miss.
Aw, I'm touched Rosie ;)
I've believed that for a long time, Roger ;)
But I am occasionally in contact with you in Another Place. I heartily
agreed with you about something not two weeks ago!
Enough of the small talk: we should move on to the serious matters of
life - has Britain's first Tim Horton's now opened on Argyle Street and
is the Maple Pecan Danish as good as the Canadian version?
It has indeed and seems to be doing a brisk trade. I was urged by my
correspondent in Kingston, Ontario, to try a double double, which was
disgustingly sweet, and a maple glazed, which was rather nice. I haven't
tried the Canadian version of either but another of my Canadian
correspondents tells me that TH's has gone downhill since it was bought
out by the owners of Burger King.

I did some serious damage to the two big boxes of Timbits provided for
the workers in Glasgow North West on election day.

Rosqb
Sid Nuncius
2017-06-27 16:59:02 UTC
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Remember, you can take Ros** out of Umra but you can't take Umra out of
Ros** :)
I sincerely hope that you can't do either! Dashed good to hear from
you, MOPMOB. Do stay around.
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