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krw
2020-03-24 14:33:21 UTC
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Who gave the government my telephone number?

When did I give them permission to contact me with a text message?

To whom do I complain - the local police or the Data Commission or GCHQ?

I do not want spurious text messages arriving out of the blue.
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Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
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Jim Easterbrook
2020-03-24 15:04:17 UTC
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Who gave the government my telephone number?
No one, the message was sent by your phone provider.
Post by krw
When did I give them permission to contact me with a text message?
When you decided to live in a country with a government.
Post by krw
To whom do I complain - the local police or the Data Commission or GCHQ?
You don't. To do so would make you look a pillock.
Post by krw
I do not want spurious text messages arriving out of the blue.
Tough. There's a national emergency on.
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Jim <http://www.jim-easterbrook.me.uk/>
1959/1985? M B+ G+ A L- I- S- P-- CH0(p) Ar++ T+ H0 Q--- Sh0
krw
2020-03-24 16:04:23 UTC
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Post by krw
Who gave the government my telephone number?
No one, the message was sent by your phone provider.
Post by krw
When did I give them permission to contact me with a text message?
When you decided to live in a country with a government.
Post by krw
To whom do I complain - the local police or the Data Commission or GCHQ?
You don't. To do so would make you look a pillock.
Post by krw
I do not want spurious text messages arriving out of the blue.
Tough. There's a national emergency on.
Really? Can't say I have noticed particularly. How many people has
ordinary flu killed this year? Traffic accidents? Covid-19? Cancer?
No-one is quoting any numbers for anything else to provide perspective.
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Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
https://tinyurl.com/KRWpics
Jim Easterbrook
2020-03-24 16:35:36 UTC
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No-one is quoting any numbers for anything else to provide perspective.
Of course they are. Here's the Imperial College study comparing the
impact of different measures, for example.
https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/196234/covid19-imperial-researchers-model-
likely-impact/
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Jim <http://www.jim-easterbrook.me.uk/>
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krw
2020-03-24 17:13:52 UTC
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Post by krw
No-one is quoting any numbers for anything else to provide perspective.
Of course they are. Here's the Imperial College study comparing the
impact of different measures, for example.
https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/196234/covid19-imperial-researchers-model-
likely-impact/
As they got foot and mouth so wrong I cannot trust that as a resource.
I still cannot see the comparisons I mentioned.
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Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
https://tinyurl.com/KRWpics
John Ashby
2020-03-24 17:22:01 UTC
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Post by krw
No-one is quoting any numbers for anything else to provide perspective.
Of course they are. Here's the Imperial College study comparing the
impact of different measures, for example.
https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/196234/covid19-imperial-researchers-model-
likely-impact/
As they got foot and mouth so wrong I cannot trust that as a resource. I
still cannot see the comparisons I mentioned.
Yes. well, I think we've all had enough of experts.

john
Serena Blanchflower
2020-03-24 16:39:20 UTC
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Really?  Can't say I have noticed particularly.  How many people has
ordinary flu killed this year?  Traffic accidents?  Covid-19?  Cancer?
No-one is quoting any numbers for anything else to provide perspective.
I think the biggest difference between flu and Covid-19 isn't the
mortality rate, although Covid's is much higher. There is also a
significant proportion of Covid-19 patients who do survive but only
because of intensive hospital treatment, frequently requiring Intensive
Care. These are the ones who are bringing health services, across the
world, to their knees.
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Best wishes, Serena
If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then quit. There's no
point in being a damn fool about it (W. C. Fields)
Jane Vernon
2020-03-24 18:42:58 UTC
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Really?  Can't say I have noticed particularly.  How many people has
ordinary flu killed this year?  Traffic accidents?  Covid-19?  Cancer?
No-one is quoting any numbers for anything else to provide perspective.
I think the biggest difference between flu and Covid-19 isn't the
mortality rate, although Covid's is much higher. There is also a
significant proportion of Covid-19 patients who do survive but only
because of intensive hospital treatment, frequently requiring Intensive
Care.  These are the ones who are bringing health services, across the
world, to their knees.
It also spreads much faster and therefore to many more people.
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Jane
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BTME

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Mike
2020-03-24 18:51:38 UTC
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Post by Serena Blanchflower
Really?  Can't say I have noticed particularly.  How many people has
ordinary flu killed this year?  Traffic accidents?  Covid-19?  Cancer?
No-one is quoting any numbers for anything else to provide perspective.
I think the biggest difference between flu and Covid-19 isn't the
mortality rate, although Covid's is much higher. There is also a
significant proportion of Covid-19 patients who do survive but only
because of intensive hospital treatment, frequently requiring Intensive
Care.  These are the ones who are bringing health services, across the
world, to their knees.
It also spreads much faster and therefore to many more people.
I’ve heard it explained that the ‘pass-on’ rate with Covid-19 is much
higher than with other virii; something between 2.5 and 2.8, this means an
infected person will if in contact with others have the ability to spread
to far more persons who, in turn will pass it on to far more persons...
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Serena Blanchflower
2020-03-24 19:29:44 UTC
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Post by Serena Blanchflower
Really?  Can't say I have noticed particularly.  How many people has
ordinary flu killed this year?  Traffic accidents?  Covid-19?  Cancer?
No-one is quoting any numbers for anything else to provide perspective.
I think the biggest difference between flu and Covid-19 isn't the
mortality rate, although Covid's is much higher. There is also a
significant proportion of Covid-19 patients who do survive but only
because of intensive hospital treatment, frequently requiring Intensive
Care.  These are the ones who are bringing health services, across the
world, to their knees.
It also spreads much faster and therefore to many more people.
I’ve heard it explained that the ‘pass-on’ rate with Covid-19 is much
higher than with other virii; something between 2.5 and 2.8, this means an
infected person will if in contact with others have the ability to spread
to far more persons who, in turn will pass it on to far more persons...
You may be interested in this:

<https://twitter.com/aljwhite/status/1241859943017349126?s=20>
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Best wishes, Serena
Illness is neither an indulgence for which people have to pay, nor an
offence for which they should be penalised, but a misfortune, the cost
of which should be shared by the community. (Aneurin Bevan)
Vicky Ayech
2020-03-24 18:06:43 UTC
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Post by Jim Easterbrook
Post by krw
Who gave the government my telephone number?
No one, the message was sent by your phone provider.
Post by krw
When did I give them permission to contact me with a text message?
When you decided to live in a country with a government.
Post by krw
To whom do I complain - the local police or the Data Commission or GCHQ?
You don't. To do so would make you look a pillock.
Post by krw
I do not want spurious text messages arriving out of the blue.
Tough. There's a national emergency on.
Really? Can't say I have noticed particularly. How many people has
ordinary flu killed this year? Traffic accidents? Covid-19? Cancer?
No-one is quoting any numbers for anything else to provide perspective.
B checked and apparently normal flu kills the same number as Corona.
And Swine flu killed many more but was not an emergency..
BrritSki
2020-03-24 18:25:50 UTC
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Post by Jim Easterbrook
Post by krw
Who gave the government my telephone number?
No one, the message was sent by your phone provider.
Post by krw
When did I give them permission to contact me with a text message?
When you decided to live in a country with a government.
Post by krw
To whom do I complain - the local police or the Data Commission or GCHQ?
You don't. To do so would make you look a pillock.
Post by krw
I do not want spurious text messages arriving out of the blue.
Tough. There's a national emergency on.
Really? Can't say I have noticed particularly. How many people has291-
ordinary flu killed this year? Traffic accidents? Covid-19? Cancer?
No-one is quoting any numbers for anything else to provide perspective.
B checked and apparently normal flu kills the same number as Corona.
And Swine flu killed many more but was not an emergency..
So far. But CV has the potential to kill orders of magnitude more.

Swine flu deaths were estimated at between 151 and 575K, flu 291 - 646K
per annum. Worldwide.

We could get to those sort of numbers in the UK alone if 80% of the UK
population get it and there's 1% mortality.

It won't be that many I hope, but it could be if people don't start
taking it seriously and we get a spike in infections.
Sam Plusnet
2020-03-24 22:39:30 UTC
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Swine flu deaths were estimated at between 151 and 575K, flu 291 - 646K
per annum. Worldwide.
We could get to those sort of numbers in the UK alone if 80% of the UK
population get it and there's 1% mortality.
A big spike in infection rates will result in an even higher mortality
rate.
Intensive care facilities are already being overloaded, and that 1%
figure depends on effective medical intervention in serious cases.
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Sam Plusnet
BrritSki
2020-03-25 08:47:45 UTC
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Swine flu deaths were estimated at between 151 and 575K, flu 291 -
646K per annum. Worldwide.
We could get to those sort of numbers in the UK alone if 80% of the UK
population get it and there's 1% mortality.
A big spike in infection rates will result in an even higher mortality
rate.
Intensive care facilities are already being overloaded, and that 1%
figure depends on effective medical intervention in serious cases.
Quite. The rate of infection will make a big difference, I was just
using those numbers to make the point about how dangerous it is.
Sally Thompson
2020-03-24 20:27:11 UTC
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Post by krw
Who gave the government my telephone number?
No one, the message was sent by your phone provider.
Post by krw
When did I give them permission to contact me with a text message?
When you decided to live in a country with a government.
Post by krw
To whom do I complain - the local police or the Data Commission or GCHQ?
You don't. To do so would make you look a pillock.
Post by krw
I do not want spurious text messages arriving out of the blue.
Tough. There's a national emergency on.
Really? Can't say I have noticed particularly. How many people has
ordinary flu killed this year? Traffic accidents? Covid-19? Cancer?
No-one is quoting any numbers for anything else to provide perspective.
Not everyone who dies of cancer, or an RTC, dies or needs hospital
treatment at the same time. Have you actually looked at any film of what
is happening in Italy?
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Sally in Shropshire, UK
krw
2020-03-24 22:46:21 UTC
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Post by krw
Who gave the government my telephone number?
No one, the message was sent by your phone provider.
Post by krw
When did I give them permission to contact me with a text message?
When you decided to live in a country with a government.
Post by krw
To whom do I complain - the local police or the Data Commission or GCHQ?
You don't. To do so would make you look a pillock.
Post by krw
I do not want spurious text messages arriving out of the blue.
Tough. There's a national emergency on.
Really? Can't say I have noticed particularly. How many people has
ordinary flu killed this year? Traffic accidents? Covid-19? Cancer?
No-one is quoting any numbers for anything else to provide perspective.
Not everyone who dies of cancer, or an RTC, dies or needs hospital
treatment at the same time. Have you actually looked at any film of what
is happening in Italy?


https://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2020/03/peter-hitchens-is-shutting-down-britain-with-unprecedented-curbs-on-ancient-liberties-really-the-bes.html

for some different views.
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Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
https://tinyurl.com/KRWpics
BrritSki
2020-03-25 09:35:01 UTC
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Post by krw
Who gave the government my telephone number?
No one, the message was sent by your phone provider.
Post by krw
When did I give them permission to contact me with a text message?
When you decided to live in a country with a government.
Post by krw
To whom do I complain - the local police or the Data Commission or GCHQ?
You don't. To do so would make you look a pillock.
Post by krw
I do not want spurious text messages arriving out of the blue.
Tough. There's a national emergency on.
Really?  Can't say I have noticed particularly.  How many people has
ordinary flu killed this year?  Traffic accidents?  Covid-19?  Cancer?
No-one is quoting any numbers for anything else to provide perspective.
Not everyone who dies of cancer, or an RTC, dies or needs hospital
treatment at the same time.  Have you actually looked at any film of what
is happening in Italy?
http://youtu.be/xbEHEzEEHJ8
https://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2020/03/peter-hitchens-is-shutting-down-britain-with-unprecedented-curbs-on-ancient-liberties-really-the-bes.html
for some different views.
Well, they (and you) are entitled to your views of course.

I gave up listening to the first when he started talking about a
conspiracy by Governments to kill off the old which we've discussed here
already.

Ironically the second starts with "[the doctor] was charming,
grey-haired, smooth and beautifully dressed." just like dear old Dr.
Vernon Coleman LOL

As it happens I agree with what a lot of them say about risks, death
rates etc. but I do NOT agree with their conclusions. In this case the
precautionary principle is best because the downsides are potentially so
huge. And also immediate, which is often not the case in e.g. CAGW.
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2020-03-24 16:42:45 UTC
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Post by krw
Who gave the government my telephone number?
When did I give them permission to contact me with a text message?
To whom do I complain - the local police or the Data Commission or GCHQ?
I do not want spurious text messages arriving out of the blue.
This was, apparently, an emergency system - by which a text message can
be sent to _everyone_ on all networks - being tested.

When reporting on it on a news bulletin I saw earlier today, the
newsreader checked her own 'phone, and hadn't got it - so the test would
appear to be needed, to get the bugs out of it.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)***@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

The best way to achieve immortality is by not dying.
Mike
2020-03-24 17:07:12 UTC
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Post by krw
Who gave the government my telephone number?
When did I give them permission to contact me with a text message?
To whom do I complain - the local police or the Data Commission or GCHQ?
I do not want spurious text messages arriving out of the blue.
This was, apparently, an emergency system - by which a text message can
be sent to _everyone_ on all networks - being tested.
When reporting on it on a news bulletin I saw earlier today, the
newsreader checked her own 'phone, and hadn't got it - so the test would
appear to be needed, to get the bugs out of it.
Not seen nuffink here yet, not no how.
--
Toodle Pip
carolet
2020-03-24 23:06:22 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Post by krw
Who gave the government my telephone number?
When did I give them permission to contact me with a text message?
To whom do I complain - the local police or the Data Commission or GCHQ?
I do not want spurious text messages arriving out of the blue.
This was, apparently, an emergency system - by which a text message can
be sent to _everyone_ on all networks - being tested.
When reporting on it on a news bulletin I saw earlier today, the
newsreader checked her own 'phone, and hadn't got it - so the test would
appear to be needed, to get the bugs out of it.
Not seen nuffink here yet, not no how.
When I set up my new phone 2 or 3 years ago, I recall seeing a setting
for receiving national alerts or some such. (I can't find it now to see
what it is called.) When I read about the purpose of this setting, it
said that it was only relevant in the USA. I thought it sounded like a
good idea and left it on. When I got the text from UK_Gov this morning,
I wondered whether they were starting to use this option here. If that
is the case then it might explain why we haven't all received it.
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CaroleT
Sally Thompson
2020-03-24 23:11:12 UTC
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Post by krw
Who gave the government my telephone number?
When did I give them permission to contact me with a text message?
To whom do I complain - the local police or the Data Commission or GCHQ?
I do not want spurious text messages arriving out of the blue.
This was, apparently, an emergency system - by which a text message can
be sent to _everyone_ on all networks - being tested.
When reporting on it on a news bulletin I saw earlier today, the
newsreader checked her own 'phone, and hadn't got it - so the test would
appear to be needed, to get the bugs out of it.
Not seen nuffink here yet, not no how.
When I set up my new phone 2 or 3 years ago, I recall seeing a setting
for receiving national alerts or some such. (I can't find it now to see
what it is called.) When I read about the purpose of this setting, it
said that it was only relevant in the USA. I thought it sounded like a
good idea and left it on. When I got the text from UK_Gov this morning,
I wondered whether they were starting to use this option here. If that
is the case then it might explain why we haven't all received it.
It seems to have been rolled out at different times, presumably to avoid
overloading the networks. I was seeing reports of it on Facebook this
morning, but T and I (O2) didn't get ours till early evening.
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Sally in Shropshire, UK
steve hague
2020-03-25 07:55:39 UTC
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Post by Mike
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Post by krw
Who gave the government my telephone number?
When did I give them permission to contact me with a text message?
To whom do I complain - the local police or the Data Commission or GCHQ?
I do not want spurious text messages arriving out of the blue.
This was, apparently, an emergency system - by which a text message can
be sent to _everyone_ on all networks - being tested.
When reporting on it on a news bulletin I saw earlier today, the
newsreader checked her own 'phone, and hadn't got it - so the test would
appear to be needed, to get the bugs out of it.
Not seen nuffink here yet, not no how.
When I set up my new phone 2 or 3 years ago, I recall seeing a setting
for receiving national alerts or some such. (I can't find it now to see
what it is called.) When I read about the purpose of this setting, it
said that it was only relevant in the USA. I thought it sounded like a
good idea and left it on. When I got the text from UK_Gov this morning,
I wondered whether they were starting to use this option here. If that
is the case then it might explain why we haven't all received it.
Wife got it, I didn't. We're both on Plusnet, our numbers only differ by
the last digit. Could be it's random.
Steve
steve hague
2020-03-25 08:15:49 UTC
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Post by Mike
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Post by krw
Who gave the government my telephone number?
When did I give them permission to contact me with a text message?
To whom do I complain - the local police or the Data Commission or GCHQ?
I do not want spurious text messages arriving out of the blue.
This was, apparently, an emergency system - by which a text message can
be sent to _everyone_ on all networks - being tested.
When reporting on it on a news bulletin I saw earlier today, the
newsreader checked her own 'phone, and hadn't got it - so the test would
appear to be needed, to get the bugs out of it.
Not seen nuffink here yet, not no how.
When I set up my new phone 2 or 3 years ago, I recall seeing a setting
for receiving national alerts or some such. (I can't find it now to
see what it is called.) When I read about the purpose of this setting,
it said that it was only relevant in the USA. I thought it sounded
like a good idea and left it on. When I got the text from UK_Gov this
morning, I wondered whether they were starting to use this option
here. If that is the case then it might explain why we haven't all
received it.
Wife got it, I didn't. We're both on Plusnet, our numbers only differ by
the last digit. Could be it's random.
Steve
I just got it. The government one, that is.
Nick Odell
2020-03-25 14:47:46 UTC
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Post by steve hague
Post by carolet
Post by Mike
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Post by krw
Who gave the government my telephone number?
When did I give them permission to contact me with a text message?
To whom do I complain - the local police or the Data Commission or GCHQ?
I do not want spurious text messages arriving out of the blue.
This was, apparently, an emergency system - by which a text message can
be sent to _everyone_ on all networks - being tested.
When reporting on it on a news bulletin I saw earlier today, the
newsreader checked her own 'phone, and hadn't got it - so the test would
appear to be needed, to get the bugs out of it.
Not seen nuffink here yet, not no how.
When I set up my new phone 2 or 3 years ago, I recall seeing a setting
for receiving national alerts or some such. (I can't find it now to
see what it is called.) When I read about the purpose of this setting,
it said that it was only relevant in the USA. I thought it sounded
like a good idea and left it on. When I got the text from UK_Gov this
morning, I wondered whether they were starting to use this option
here. If that is the case then it might explain why we haven't all
received it.
Wife got it, I didn't. We're both on Plusnet, our numbers only differ by
the last digit. Could be it's random.
Steve
I just got it. The government one, that is.
Phew! I am so glad you qualified that first statement.

For a moment there I thought umra would have to make sure all the rest
of the posts are kept two metres away from your posts.

Nick
Mike
2020-03-25 14:04:44 UTC
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Post by carolet
Post by Mike
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Post by krw
Who gave the government my telephone number?
When did I give them permission to contact me with a text message?
To whom do I complain - the local police or the Data Commission or GCHQ?
I do not want spurious text messages arriving out of the blue.
This was, apparently, an emergency system - by which a text message can
be sent to _everyone_ on all networks - being tested.
When reporting on it on a news bulletin I saw earlier today, the
newsreader checked her own 'phone, and hadn't got it - so the test would
appear to be needed, to get the bugs out of it.
Not seen nuffink here yet, not no how.
When I set up my new phone 2 or 3 years ago, I recall seeing a setting
for receiving national alerts or some such. (I can't find it now to
see what it is called.) When I read about the purpose of this setting,
it said that it was only relevant in the USA. I thought it sounded
like a good idea and left it on. When I got the text from UK_Gov this
morning, I wondered whether they were starting to use this option
here. If that is the case then it might explain why we haven't all
received it.
Wife got it, I didn't. We're both on Plusnet, our numbers only differ by
the last digit. Could be it's random.
Steve
I just got it. The government one, that is.
Phew! I am so glad you qualified that first statement.
For a moment there I thought umra would have to make sure all the rest
of the posts are kept two metres away from your posts.
Nick
And that your antivirus software is up to date...
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Chris McMillan
2020-03-26 11:06:26 UTC
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Post by krw
Who gave the government my telephone number?
When did I give them permission to contact me with a text message?
To whom do I complain - the local police or the Data Commission or GCHQ?
I do not want spurious text messages arriving out of the blue.
This was, apparently, an emergency system - by which a text message can
be sent to _everyone_ on all networks - being tested.
When reporting on it on a news bulletin I saw earlier today, the
newsreader checked her own 'phone, and hadn't got it - so the test would
appear to be needed, to get the bugs out of it.
Not seen nuffink here yet, not no how.
When I set up my new phone 2 or 3 years ago, I recall seeing a setting
for receiving national alerts or some such. (I can't find it now to see
what it is called.) When I read about the purpose of this setting, it
said that it was only relevant in the USA. I thought it sounded like a
good idea and left it on. When I got the text from UK_Gov this morning,
I wondered whether they were starting to use this option here. If that
is the case then it might explain why we haven't all received it.
Are you iPhone or AN Other? I bought my iPhone a few weeks ago. And I
can’t remember such a thing

Sincerely Chris
carolet
2020-03-26 12:52:48 UTC
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Post by krw
Who gave the government my telephone number?
When did I give them permission to contact me with a text message?
To whom do I complain - the local police or the Data Commission or GCHQ?
I do not want spurious text messages arriving out of the blue.
This was, apparently, an emergency system - by which a text message can
be sent to _everyone_ on all networks - being tested.
When reporting on it on a news bulletin I saw earlier today, the
newsreader checked her own 'phone, and hadn't got it - so the test would
appear to be needed, to get the bugs out of it.
Not seen nuffink here yet, not no how.
When I set up my new phone 2 or 3 years ago, I recall seeing a setting
for receiving national alerts or some such. (I can't find it now to see
what it is called.) When I read about the purpose of this setting, it
said that it was only relevant in the USA. I thought it sounded like a
good idea and left it on. When I got the text from UK_Gov this morning,
I wondered whether they were starting to use this option here. If that
is the case then it might explain why we haven't all received it.
Are you iPhone or AN Other? I bought my iPhone a few weeks ago. And I
can’t remember such a thing
Sincerely Chris
Android
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Chris McMillan
2020-03-27 14:06:14 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Post by krw
Who gave the government my telephone number?
When did I give them permission to contact me with a text message?
To whom do I complain - the local police or the Data Commission or GCHQ?
I do not want spurious text messages arriving out of the blue.
This was, apparently, an emergency system - by which a text message can
be sent to _everyone_ on all networks - being tested.
When reporting on it on a news bulletin I saw earlier today, the
newsreader checked her own 'phone, and hadn't got it - so the test would
appear to be needed, to get the bugs out of it.
Not seen nuffink here yet, not no how.
When I set up my new phone 2 or 3 years ago, I recall seeing a setting
for receiving national alerts or some such. (I can't find it now to see
what it is called.) When I read about the purpose of this setting, it
said that it was only relevant in the USA. I thought it sounded like a
good idea and left it on. When I got the text from UK_Gov this morning,
I wondered whether they were starting to use this option here. If that
is the case then it might explain why we haven't all received it.
Are you iPhone or AN Other? I bought my iPhone a few weeks ago. And I
can’t remember such a thing
Sincerely Chris
Android
Maybe different then.

Sincerely Chris

Chris McMillan
2020-03-26 10:33:24 UTC
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Post by krw
Who gave the government my telephone number?
When did I give them permission to contact me with a text message?
To whom do I complain - the local police or the Data Commission or GCHQ?
I do not want spurious text messages arriving out of the blue.
This was, apparently, an emergency system - by which a text message can
be sent to _everyone_ on all networks - being tested.
When reporting on it on a news bulletin I saw earlier today, the
newsreader checked her own 'phone, and hadn't got it - so the test would
appear to be needed, to get the bugs out of it.
We have received a text message which gives a link to gov.uk and there’s a
scrollable back from the current message back as far as you have the will
to live messages to read.

Sincerely Chris
Nick Odell
2020-03-24 20:18:59 UTC
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Post by krw
Who gave the government my telephone number?
When did I give them permission to contact me with a text message?
To whom do I complain - the local police or the Data Commission or GCHQ?
I do not want spurious text messages arriving out of the blue.
Not the government. The NHS.

The government tested and proved but were too mean to implement an
emergency alert system.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/23/government-ignored-advice-set-up-uk-emergency-alert-system

Nick
John Ashby
2020-03-24 17:33:06 UTC
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Post by krw
Who gave the government my telephone number?
When did I give them permission to contact me with a text message?
To whom do I complain - the local police or the Data Commission or GCHQ?
I do not want spurious text messages arriving out of the blue.
Not the government. The NHS.
The government tested and proved but were too mean to implement an
emergency alert system.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/23/government-ignored-advice-set-up-uk-emergency-alert-system
Nick
Different message. The one krw is (I assume) referring to clearly comes
from UK_Gov and sends people to a gov.uk website. The Guardian article
talks about more targetted messages from the NHS to patients known
(believed) to be particularly vulnerable.

john
BrritSki
2020-03-24 18:13:59 UTC
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... more targetted messages from the NHS to patients known
(believed) to be particularly vulnerable.
That's what I got. They have my phone number because my surgery has it
so they can remind me about appointments etc and I'm very happy for them
to do so.

Same for pharmacy but that was a separate permission.
Nick Odell
2020-03-25 03:46:55 UTC
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Post by Nick Odell
Post by krw
Who gave the government my telephone number?
When did I give them permission to contact me with a text message?
To whom do I complain - the local police or the Data Commission or GCHQ?
I do not want spurious text messages arriving out of the blue.
Not the government. The NHS.
The government tested and proved but were too mean to implement an
emergency alert system.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/23/government-ignored-advice-set-up-uk-emergency-alert-system
Nick
Different message. The one krw is (I assume) referring to clearly comes
from UK_Gov and sends people to a gov.uk website. The Guardian article
talks about more targetted messages from the NHS to patients known
(believed) to be particularly vulnerable.
Yes. Not the NHS one. I see that now.

I got mine this afternoon, here in sunny Buenos Aires lockdown so it´s
plainly not an emergency government broadcast system - Which (the
Grauniad article says) We Have Not Got and reading around in other
groups I get the impression that the government simply instructed each
of the phone companies to broadcast the message on its behalf to all
their subscribers.

Nick
Chris McMillan
2020-03-26 11:06:27 UTC
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Post by John Ashby
Post by Nick Odell
Post by krw
Who gave the government my telephone number?
When did I give them permission to contact me with a text message?
To whom do I complain - the local police or the Data Commission or GCHQ?
I do not want spurious text messages arriving out of the blue.
Not the government. The NHS.
The government tested and proved but were too mean to implement an
emergency alert system.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/23/government-ignored-advice-set-up-uk-emergency-alert-system
Nick
Different message. The one krw is (I assume) referring to clearly comes
from UK_Gov and sends people to a gov.uk website. The Guardian article
talks about more targetted messages from the NHS to patients known
(believed) to be particularly vulnerable.
Yes. Not the NHS one. I see that now.
I got mine this afternoon, here in sunny Buenos Aires lockdown so it´s
plainly not an emergency government broadcast system - Which (the
Grauniad article says) We Have Not Got and reading around in other
groups I get the impression that the government simply instructed each
of the phone companies to broadcast the message on its behalf to all
their subscribers.
Nick
Thanks Nick

Sincerely Chris
Vicky Ayech
2020-03-24 18:05:29 UTC
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Who gave the government my telephone number?
When did I give them permission to contact me with a text message?
To whom do I complain - the local police or the Data Commission or GCHQ?
I do not want spurious text messages arriving out of the blue.
I didn't get one. I got a letter.
Penny
2020-03-25 15:19:14 UTC
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dust...
Post by krw
Who gave the government my telephone number?
When did I give them permission to contact me with a text message?
To whom do I complain - the local police or the Data Commission or GCHQ?
I do not want spurious text messages arriving out of the blue.
A lot of people assumed it was spam or a scam (myself included) and deleted
it. Some pointed out putting a clickable link in it made it look more like
a scam.
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Annoyed by The Archers since 1959
Mike
2020-03-25 16:45:08 UTC
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dust...
Post by krw
Who gave the government my telephone number?
When did I give them permission to contact me with a text message?
To whom do I complain - the local police or the Data Commission or GCHQ?
I do not want spurious text messages arriving out of the blue.
A lot of people assumed it was spam or a scam (myself included) and deleted
it. Some pointed out putting a clickable link in it made it look more like
a scam.
Chris has now received the text on her phobile though I haven’t yet;
nevertheless I did have a message as follows:

‘You have 1 message that will expire on 04/03. To listen to this message
just access your voicemail on 222.”

I smelt a very large rodent and it sounded rather piscatorial, especially
as my messages don’t normally expire in this way and... it wasn’t for days
that I saw it so I hadn’t bothered with it; I decided to google and...

https://www.facebook.com/ClayCrossSNT/posts/potential-scam-alert-please-be-awareif-you-are-a-mobile-phone-user-especially-an/1272127986267989/

was the result.

THBAPSA
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Rosalind Mitchell
2020-03-25 17:50:27 UTC
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I smelt a very large rodent
Capybaras are rather niffy, I believe.

and it sounded rather piscatorial,

And also aquatic so I suppose they eat fish.
Post by Mike
especially as my messages don’t normally expire in this way and... it
wasn’t for days that I saw it so I hadn’t bothered with it; I decided to
google and...
https://www.facebook.com/ClayCrossSNT/posts/potential-scam-alert-please-
be-awareif-you-are-a-mobile-phone-user-especially-an/1272127986267989/
Post by Mike
was the result.
THBAPSA
There seems to be some dispute about that one.

I have a New Voicemail message that won't go away. It's asking me to pick
up an urgent voicemail by calling +447870020555 and it won't go away. I'm
ignoring it as that *isn't* how my voicemails are retrieved. It seems to
be more harassment than a scam though.

https://who-called.co.uk/Number/2,07870020555

R
Mike
2020-03-25 18:02:28 UTC
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Post by Mike
I smelt a very large rodent
Capybaras are rather niffy, I believe.
and it sounded rather piscatorial,
And also aquatic so I suppose they eat fish.
Post by Mike
especially as my messages don’t normally expire in this way and... it
wasn’t for days that I saw it so I hadn’t bothered with it; I decided to
google and...
https://www.facebook.com/ClayCrossSNT/posts/potential-scam-alert-please-
be-awareif-you-are-a-mobile-phone-user-especially-an/1272127986267989/
Post by Mike
was the result.
THBAPSA
There seems to be some dispute about that one.
I have a New Voicemail message that won't go away. It's asking me to pick
up an urgent voicemail by calling +447870020555 and it won't go away. I'm
ignoring it as that *isn't* how my voicemails are retrieved. It seems to
be more harassment than a scam though.
https://who-called.co.uk/Number/2,07870020555
R
The message I received purports to come via Virgin Voicemail - without any
details of sendee, and like you, I don’t retrieve my messages in that way.
I would like to see all the world’s scammers put in a very large box ....
and the airtight lid closed on them!
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krw
2020-03-25 23:21:07 UTC
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The message I received purports to come via Virgin Voicemail - without any
details of sendee, and like you, I don’t retrieve my messages in that way.
I would like to see all the world’s scammers put in a very large box ....
and the airtight lid closed on them!
Yes but is it Schroedinger's box?
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Mike
2020-03-26 08:32:04 UTC
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Post by Mike
The message I received purports to come via Virgin Voicemail - without any
details of sendee, and like you, I don’t retrieve my messages in that way.
I would like to see all the world’s scammers put in a very large box ....
and the airtight lid closed on them!
Yes but is it Schroedinger's box?
Wot have any cats done to deserve that treatment - apart perhaps (tenuous
TA link coming up), from Pussy Hilda Ogden?
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Chris McMillan
2020-03-26 11:06:28 UTC
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Post by krw
Post by Mike
The message I received purports to come via Virgin Voicemail - without any
details of sendee, and like you, I don’t retrieve my messages in that way.
I would like to see all the world’s scammers put in a very large box ....
and the airtight lid closed on them!
Yes but is it Schroedinger's box?
Wot have any cats done to deserve that treatment - apart perhaps (tenuous
TA link coming up), from Pussy Hilda Ogden?
And we know Joy Horville’s kitten has the same character. Wonder who else
has one of the kitties. For once Aliss was sensible

Sincerely Chris
Vicky Ayech
2020-03-26 11:46:02 UTC
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Post by Mike
Post by krw
Post by Mike
The message I received purports to come via Virgin Voicemail - without any
details of sendee, and like you, I don’t retrieve my messages in that way.
I would like to see all the world’s scammers put in a very large box ....
and the airtight lid closed on them!
Yes but is it Schroedinger's box?
Wot have any cats done to deserve that treatment - apart perhaps (tenuous
TA link coming up), from Pussy Hilda Ogden?
And we know Joy Horville’s kitten has the same character. Wonder who else
has one of the kitties. For once Aliss was sensible
Sincerely Chris
After reassurance about last night's episode being safe to listen to I
decided to listen to Tuesday's,as I don't like gaps. Once again Philip
was unpleasant and lying but not as evil as the scene with Blake.

I still have last night's to listen to. I have never been keen on Joy.
She is irritating and one of those people in scenes where most would
manage not to haveher force her way in, but in the present story lines
I will welcome a story with her in it and kittens.
Penny
2020-03-26 12:31:24 UTC
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Post by Vicky Ayech
I still have last night's to listen to. I have never been keen on Joy.
She is irritating and one of those people in scenes where most would
manage not to haveher force her way in, but in the present story lines
I will welcome a story with her in it and kittens.
The kittens do not feature in the episode - not even a silent meow.
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Annoyed by The Archers since 1959
Mike
2020-03-26 12:43:38 UTC
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scrawled in the dust...
Post by Vicky Ayech
I still have last night's to listen to. I have never been keen on Joy.
She is irritating and one of those people in scenes where most would
manage not to haveher force her way in, but in the present story lines
I will welcome a story with her in it and kittens.
The kittens do not feature in the episode - not even a silent meow.
Most of retail has shut down - not a trace - not a whisker.
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John Ashby
2020-03-26 13:18:08 UTC
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Post by Vicky Ayech
I still have last night's to listen to. I have never been keen on Joy.
She is irritating and one of those people in scenes where most would
manage not to haveher force her way in, but in the present story lines
I will welcome a story with her in it and kittens.
The kittens do not feature in the episode - not even a silent meow.
Most of retail has shut down - not a trace - not a whisker.
Is Hilda a Manx cat?

john
Mike
2020-03-26 14:14:31 UTC
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Post by Vicky Ayech
I still have last night's to listen to. I have never been keen on Joy.
She is irritating and one of those people in scenes where most would
manage not to haveher force her way in, but in the present story lines
I will welcome a story with her in it and kittens.
The kittens do not feature in the episode - not even a silent meow.
Most of retail has shut down - not a trace - not a whisker.
Is Hilda a Manx cat?
john
Don’t know Man.
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Toodle Pip
Sam Plusnet
2020-03-25 22:15:26 UTC
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Chris has now received the text on her phobile though I haven’t yet;
‘You have 1 message that will expire on 04/03. To listen to this message
just access your voicemail on 222.”
I smelt a very large rodent and it sounded rather piscatorial, especially
as my messages don’t normally expire in this way and... it wasn’t for days
that I saw it so I hadn’t bothered with it; I decided to google and...
https://www.facebook.com/ClayCrossSNT/posts/potential-scam-alert-please-be-awareif-you-are-a-mobile-phone-user-especially-an/1272127986267989/
was the result.
Clay Cross hasn't been in the news for a few years.

(Dennis Skinner was born & bred there)
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Vicky Ayech
2020-03-25 17:21:52 UTC
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Post by krw
Who gave the government my telephone number?
When did I give them permission to contact me with a text message?
To whom do I complain - the local police or the Data Commission or GCHQ?
I do not want spurious text messages arriving out of the blue.
A lot of people assumed it was spam or a scam (myself included) and deleted
it. Some pointed out putting a clickable link in it made it look more like
a scam.
I got one now too.
Mike
2020-03-25 17:29:51 UTC
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Post by Penny
dust...
Post by krw
Who gave the government my telephone number?
When did I give them permission to contact me with a text message?
To whom do I complain - the local police or the Data Commission or GCHQ?
I do not want spurious text messages arriving out of the blue.
A lot of people assumed it was spam or a scam (myself included) and deleted
it. Some pointed out putting a clickable link in it made it look more like
a scam.
I got one now too.
MTTAW
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Toodle Pip
Kate B
2020-03-25 23:14:37 UTC
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Post by Penny
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Post by krw
Who gave the government my telephone number?
When did I give them permission to contact me with a text message?
To whom do I complain - the local police or the Data Commission or GCHQ?
I do not want spurious text messages arriving out of the blue.
A lot of people assumed it was spam or a scam (myself included) and deleted
it. Some pointed out putting a clickable link in it made it look more like
a scam.
I got one now too.
Who has had a link to the Covid19 tracking app sent to them? I've had
three messages from friends with the link forwarded. It looks so spamy
it's not true, but the app is perfectly kosher and even featured on the
News at ten just now.
Post by Vicky Ayech
Help slow the spread of #COVID19 and identify at risk cases sooner by self
-reporting your symptoms daily, even if you feel well 🙏🏼. Download the app
https://covid.joinzoe.com/
Doesn't it look fishy to you? But it's OK.
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London
Vicky Ayech
2020-03-26 08:53:06 UTC
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Post by krw
Who gave the government my telephone number?
When did I give them permission to contact me with a text message?
To whom do I complain - the local police or the Data Commission or GCHQ?
I do not want spurious text messages arriving out of the blue.
A lot of people assumed it was spam or a scam (myself included) and deleted
it. Some pointed out putting a clickable link in it made it look more like
a scam.
I got one now too.
Who has had a link to the Covid19 tracking app sent to them? I've had
three messages from friends with the link forwarded. It looks so spamy
it's not true, but the app is perfectly kosher and even featured on the
News at ten just now.
Post by Vicky Ayech
Help slow the spread of #COVID19 and identify at risk cases sooner by self
-reporting your symptoms daily, even if you feel well ??. Download the app
https://covid.joinzoe.com/
Doesn't it look fishy to you? But it's OK.
I did want to be helpful but don't like aps and there was no PC
option.
Penny
2020-03-26 11:15:06 UTC
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Post by Vicky Ayech
Post by Kate B
Who has had a link to the Covid19 tracking app sent to them? I've had
three messages from friends with the link forwarded. It looks so spamy
it's not true, but the app is perfectly kosher and even featured on the
News at ten just now.
Post by Vicky Ayech
Help slow the spread of #COVID19 and identify at risk cases sooner by self
-reporting your symptoms daily, even if you feel well ??. Download the app
https://covid.joinzoe.com/
Doesn't it look fishy to you? But it's OK.
I did want to be helpful but don't like aps and there was no PC
option.
d#1 sent me the link yesterday and I have downloaded the app but not tried
to set it up yet. Reading the reviews a lot of folk struggled to create an
account and many of those who have were complaining about shortfalls in
what could and could not be entered.

I'll give it a try later, it sounded like a good idea and claims it only
takes a minute or two a day. Maybe they will pay attention to the feedback
and make some adjustments.
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Annoyed by The Archers since 1959
Anne B
2020-03-26 17:21:47 UTC
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Post by Kate B
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Post by Penny
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Post by krw
Who gave the government my telephone number?
When did I give them permission to contact me with a text message?
To whom do I complain - the local police or the Data Commission or GCHQ?
I do not want spurious text messages arriving out of the blue.
A lot of people assumed it was spam or a scam (myself included) and deleted
it. Some pointed out putting a clickable link in it made it look more like
a scam.
I got one now too.
Who has had a link to the Covid19 tracking app sent to them? I've had
three messages from friends with the link forwarded. It looks so spamy
it's not true, but the app is perfectly kosher and even featured on the
News at ten just now.
Post by Vicky Ayech
Help slow the spread of #COVID19 and identify at risk cases sooner by self
-reporting your symptoms daily, even if you feel well ??. Download the app
https://covid.joinzoe.com/
Doesn't it look fishy to you? But it's OK.
I did want to be helpful but don't like aps and there was no PC
option.
Likewise.

Anne B
Chris McMillan
2020-03-26 11:06:28 UTC
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Post by Vicky Ayech
Post by Penny
dust...
Post by krw
Who gave the government my telephone number?
When did I give them permission to contact me with a text message?
To whom do I complain - the local police or the Data Commission or GCHQ?
I do not want spurious text messages arriving out of the blue.
A lot of people assumed it was spam or a scam (myself included) and deleted
it. Some pointed out putting a clickable link in it made it look more like
a scam.
I got one now too.
Who has had a link to the Covid19 tracking app sent to them? I've had
three messages from friends with the link forwarded. It looks so spamy
it's not true, but the app is perfectly kosher and even featured on the
News at ten just now.
Post by Vicky Ayech
Help slow the spread of #COVID19 and identify at risk cases sooner by self
-reporting your symptoms daily, even if you feel well 🙏🏼. Download the app
https://covid.joinzoe.com/
Doesn't it look fishy to you? But it's OK.
I wondered about that too

Sincerely Chris
Rosalind Mitchell
2020-03-25 17:40:34 UTC
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Post by krw
Who gave the government my telephone number?
When did I give them permission to contact me with a text message?
To whom do I complain - the local police or the Data Commission or GCHQ?
I do not want spurious text messages arriving out of the blue.
A lot of people assumed it was spam or a scam (myself included) and
deleted it. Some pointed out putting a clickable link in it made it look
more like a scam.
I asked my Designated Shopper last week to get Spam for the store
cupboard but there was none to be had. I seem to have lots of tinned
mackerel instead.

R
Phil
2020-03-25 21:56:05 UTC
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dust...
Post by krw
Who gave the government my telephone number?
When did I give them permission to contact me with a text message?
To whom do I complain - the local police or the Data Commission or GCHQ?
I do not want spurious text messages arriving out of the blue.
A lot of people assumed it was spam or a scam (myself included) and deleted
it. Some pointed out putting a clickable link in it made it look more like
a scam.
My phone thinks it's spam.
--
Phil
Liverpool, UK
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