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Mike
2020-02-07 19:17:20 UTC
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Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, NO!
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Vicky Ayech
2020-02-07 21:46:55 UTC
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Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, NO!
Quite.


He won't be delighted. And isn't she a bit old?
steveski
2020-02-07 22:31:19 UTC
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Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, NO!
Quite.
He won't be delighted. And isn't she a bit old?
I always thought that her personality was her contraceptive . . .
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J. P. Gilliver (John)
2020-02-07 22:44:54 UTC
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Post by Mike
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, NO!
Quite.
Indeed.
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Post by Vicky Ayech
He won't be delighted.
But may feel he should "do the right thing" )-:. [I hope not - Krait's
character _should_ obviate any such feeling. But ...]
Post by steveski
Post by Vicky Ayech
And isn't she a bit old?
Yes. Her other children (remember them?) must be about adult now (last
time one of them was here, she took drugs - not that that makes her
adult, but not a _small_ child).
Post by steveski
I always thought that her personality was her contraceptive . . .
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Vicky Ayech
2020-02-07 22:59:02 UTC
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Post by steveski
Post by Vicky Ayech
Post by Mike
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, NO!
Quite.
Indeed.
Post by steveski
Post by Vicky Ayech
He won't be delighted.
But may feel he should "do the right thing" )-:. [I hope not - Krait's
character _should_ obviate any such feeling. But ...]
Post by steveski
Post by Vicky Ayech
And isn't she a bit old?
Yes. Her other children (remember them?) must be about adult now (last
time one of them was here, she took drugs - not that that makes her
adult, but not a _small_ child).
Post by steveski
I always thought that her personality was her contraceptive . . .
Apparently she is 42. Second daughter had grandson at 42.
he should have used a condom, even if she said she was on the pill,
which I doubt as she is too organic.
Mike
2020-02-08 07:38:36 UTC
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Post by steveski
Post by Vicky Ayech
Post by Mike
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, NO!
Quite.
Indeed.
Post by steveski
Post by Vicky Ayech
He won't be delighted.
But may feel he should "do the right thing" )-:. [I hope not - Krait's
character _should_ obviate any such feeling. But ...]
Post by steveski
Post by Vicky Ayech
And isn't she a bit old?
Yes. Her other children (remember them?) must be about adult now (last
time one of them was here, she took drugs - not that that makes her
adult, but not a _small_ child).
Post by steveski
I always thought that her personality was her contraceptive . . .
Apparently she is 42. Second daughter had grandson at 42.
he should have used a condom, even if she said she was on the pill,
which I doubt as she is too organic.
He must have been organ-ic too.
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Serena Blanchflower
2020-02-09 09:02:56 UTC
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Post by steveski
Post by Vicky Ayech
Post by Mike
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, NO!
Quite.
Indeed.
Post by steveski
Post by Vicky Ayech
He won't be delighted.
But may feel he should "do the right thing" )-:. [I hope not - Krait's
character _should_ obviate any such feeling. But ...]
Post by steveski
Post by Vicky Ayech
And isn't she a bit old?
Yes. Her other children (remember them?) must be about adult now (last
time one of them was here, she took drugs - not that that makes her
adult, but not a _small_ child).
Post by steveski
I always thought that her personality was her contraceptive . . .
Apparently she is 42. Second daughter had grandson at 42.
he should have used a condom, even if she said she was on the pill,
which I doubt as she is too organic.
I suspect Jakob would agree with you[1].

I think this was pretty predictable[1], given how broody Kate has been,
ever since Xander was born. It wouldn't occur to her that the father
has any right to be consulted about this, once she's decided that it's
what she wants.


[1] at least with the benefit of hindsight!
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Serena Blanchflower
2020-02-09 09:06:48 UTC
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Post by Mike
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, NO!
Quite.
Indeed.
Post by Vicky Ayech
He won't be delighted.
But may feel he should "do the right thing" )-:. [I hope not - Krait's
character _should_ obviate any such feeling. But ...]
Over the past few days, Jakob's been sounded completely incapable of
standing up to her over anything. More like a rabbit in the headlights
than anything else.
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Mike
2020-02-09 09:21:52 UTC
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Post by Mike
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, NO!
Quite.
Indeed.
Post by Vicky Ayech
He won't be delighted.
But may feel he should "do the right thing" )-:. [I hope not - Krait's
character _should_ obviate any such feeling. But ...]
Over the past few days, Jakob's been sounded completely incapable of
standing up to her over anything. More like a rabbit in the headlights
than anything else.
“Jakob is tharn, Jakob is tharn - na na na naa naa”
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Vicky Ayech
2020-02-09 09:31:05 UTC
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Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Post by Vicky Ayech
Post by Mike
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, NO!
Quite.
Indeed.
Post by Vicky Ayech
He won't be delighted.
But may feel he should "do the right thing" )-:. [I hope not - Krait's
character _should_ obviate any such feeling. But ...]
Over the past few days, Jakob's been sounded completely incapable of
standing up to her over anything. More like a rabbit in the headlights
than anything else.
Well, he did say go home. He said he liked his own space. She was
outrageously ignoring the message. I think this was one of those
frequent moments in TA when we can't believe how outrageous a person
can be and nobody calls them on it. Susan did get called a little
while back. Forget by who. Lynda never seems to. Shula should have
been. Pip got fast action when she ignored Rex saying he didn't want
to discuss it.

Please, please, pretty please can Jakob have had a snip?
Mike
2020-02-09 09:37:00 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Post by Vicky Ayech
Post by Mike
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, NO!
Quite.
Indeed.
Post by Vicky Ayech
He won't be delighted.
But may feel he should "do the right thing" )-:. [I hope not - Krait's
character _should_ obviate any such feeling. But ...]
Over the past few days, Jakob's been sounded completely incapable of
standing up to her over anything. More like a rabbit in the headlights
than anything else.
Well, he did say go home. He said he liked his own space. She was
outrageously ignoring the message. I think this was one of those
frequent moments in TA when we can't believe how outrageous a person
can be and nobody calls them on it. Susan did get called a little
while back. Forget by who. Lynda never seems to. Shula should have
been. Pip got fast action when she ignored Rex saying he didn't want
to discuss it.
Please, please, pretty please can Jakob have had a snip?
Kate’s brain (she has one???) tells her that when communicating with
anyone, only her voice need be heard, all other contributions are optional,
trivial and very rarely worth listening to - never mind heeding.
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J. P. Gilliver (John)
2020-02-09 13:56:12 UTC
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Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Post by Vicky Ayech
Post by Mike
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, NO!
Quite.
Indeed.
Post by Vicky Ayech
He won't be delighted.
But may feel he should "do the right thing" )-:. [I hope not - Krait's
character _should_ obviate any such feeling. But ...]
Over the past few days, Jakob's been sounded completely incapable of
standing up to her over anything. More like a rabbit in the headlights
than anything else.
Yes, it's seemed very out of character to me: he's always struck me as
someone who would stand no nonsense.
Post by Mike
Post by Vicky Ayech
Well, he did say go home. He said he liked his own space. She was
outrageously ignoring the message. I think this was one of those
frequent moments in TA when we can't believe how outrageous a person
can be and nobody calls them on it. Susan did get called a little
Donald Trump and she _must_ share some genes.
Post by Mike
Post by Vicky Ayech
while back. Forget by who. Lynda never seems to. Shula should have
been. Pip got fast action when she ignored Rex saying he didn't want
to discuss it.
I'd forgotten (or I missed) Susan getting hers; it obviously didn't
stick, though. I think Lynda _did_ get hers, from whichever of Jill and
Peggy (you know I confuse those two) normally wouldn't have, and it was
all the more effective for being unexpected; L went quite quiet for a
while. (I don't mean she just disappeared like Ambridge folk do for SW
reasons - I mean she was present, but subdued. But then UMRAts will know
I think there's a nice person inside L, often hidden by lazy SWing.)
Post by Mike
Post by Vicky Ayech
Please, please, pretty please can Jakob have had a snip?
And she _is_ still preggers, so would have to admit a careless lifestyle
Post by Mike
Kate’s brain (she has one???) tells her that when communicating with
anyone, only her voice need be heard, all other contributions are optional,
trivial and very rarely worth listening to - never mind heeding.
or as (our) Kate and another has suggested, is just starting to misfire.
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J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)***@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

The average age of a single mum in this country is 37
- Jane Rackham, RT 2016/5/28-6/3
Serena Blanchflower
2020-02-09 11:00:03 UTC
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Post by Vicky Ayech
Post by Mike
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, NO!
Quite.
Indeed.
Post by Vicky Ayech
He won't be delighted.
But may feel he should "do the right thing" )-:. [I hope not - Krait's
character _should_ obviate any such feeling. But ...]
Over the past few days, Jakob's been sounded completely incapable of
standing up to her over anything. More like a rabbit in the headlights
than anything else.
Well, he did say go home. He said he liked his own space. She was
outrageously ignoring the message. I think this was one of those
frequent moments in TA when we can't believe how outrageous a person
can be and nobody calls them on it. Susan did get called a little
while back. Forget by who. Lynda never seems to. Shula should have
been. Pip got fast action when she ignored Rex saying he didn't want
to discuss it.
The trouble was, neither could Jakob believe how outrageous Kate could
be and he clearly had no idea how to deal with it.
Post by Vicky Ayech
Please, please, pretty please can Jakob have had a snip?
That would be wonderful! If that proved true, I wonder who the actual
father could be ;)
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Jim Easterbrook
2020-02-09 11:09:42 UTC
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The trouble was, neither could Jakob believe how outrageous Kate could
be and he clearly had no idea how to deal with it.
Just like the media and some politicians.
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Kate B
2020-02-09 11:10:36 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Post by Vicky Ayech
Post by Mike
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, NO!
Quite.
Indeed.
Post by Vicky Ayech
He won't be delighted.
But may feel he should "do the right thing" )-:. [I hope not - Krait's
character _should_ obviate any such feeling. But ...]
Over the past few days, Jakob's been sounded completely incapable of
standing up to her over anything.  More like a rabbit in the headlights
than anything else.
Well, he did say go home. He said he liked his own space. She was
outrageously ignoring the message.  I think this was one of those
frequent moments in TA when we can't believe how outrageous a person
can be and nobody calls them on it. Susan did get called a little
while back. Forget by who. Lynda never seems to. Shula should have
been. Pip got fast action when she ignored Rex saying he didn't want
to discuss it.
The trouble was, neither could Jakob believe how outrageous Kate could
be and he clearly had no idea how to deal with it.
Post by Vicky Ayech
Please, please, pretty please can Jakob have had a snip?
That would be wonderful!  If that proved true, I wonder who the actual
father could be ;)
It's been suggested elsewhere (and perhaps here too but I can't find it
any more) that Kate is perimenopausal and has simply missed a period
because that happens sometimes, and that excessive broodiness is
exacerbating things. My ideal scenario would be that Jakob says he has
had snip, Kate doesn't believe him, hilarious consequences, Kate finally
goes to doctor, nothing there, has to face reality at last.
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Kate B
London
Mike
2020-02-09 11:19:17 UTC
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Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Post by Vicky Ayech
Post by Mike
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, NO!
Quite.
Indeed.
Post by Vicky Ayech
He won't be delighted.
But may feel he should "do the right thing" )-:. [I hope not - Krait's
character _should_ obviate any such feeling. But ...]
Over the past few days, Jakob's been sounded completely incapable of
standing up to her over anything.  More like a rabbit in the headlights
than anything else.
Well, he did say go home. He said he liked his own space. She was
outrageously ignoring the message.  I think this was one of those
frequent moments in TA when we can't believe how outrageous a person
can be and nobody calls them on it. Susan did get called a little
while back. Forget by who. Lynda never seems to. Shula should have
been. Pip got fast action when she ignored Rex saying he didn't want
to discuss it.
The trouble was, neither could Jakob believe how outrageous Kate could
be and he clearly had no idea how to deal with it.
Post by Vicky Ayech
Please, please, pretty please can Jakob have had a snip?
That would be wonderful!  If that proved true, I wonder who the actual
father could be ;)
It's been suggested elsewhere (and perhaps here too but I can't find it
any more) that Kate is perimenopausal and has simply missed a period
because that happens sometimes, and that excessive broodiness is
exacerbating things. My ideal scenario would be that Jakob says he has
had snip, Kate doesn't believe him, hilarious consequences, Kate finally
goes to doctor, nothing there, has to face reality at last.
‘Err, Kate Madikane, have you ever considered euthanasia? I have some very
understanding colleagues in Switzerland and I am quite happy to give you a
referral - the world would be a much better place without you though I’m
afraid I can’t arrange for it to be done on the NHS I’m afraid...’
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Penny
2020-02-09 11:23:10 UTC
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Post by Kate B
It's been suggested elsewhere (and perhaps here too but I can't find it
any more) that Kate is perimenopausal and has simply missed a period
because that happens sometimes, and that excessive broodiness is
exacerbating things. My ideal scenario would be that Jakob says he has
had snip, Kate doesn't believe him, hilarious consequences, Kate finally
goes to doctor, nothing there, has to face reality at last.
I hadn't considered the menopausal possibility - she seems too young but
I'm aware it sometimes happens early. The mothers of those I've met also
had early menopause so I guess there is a genetic factor involved - if this
is the case, Alice should bear it in mind.

Why would Jakob (who likes children) have had the snip? Not sure how old he
is but I've also heard of connections being re-established after vasectomy.
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Penny
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Vicky Ayech
2020-02-09 12:07:00 UTC
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scrawled in the dust...
Post by Kate B
It's been suggested elsewhere (and perhaps here too but I can't find it
any more) that Kate is perimenopausal and has simply missed a period
because that happens sometimes, and that excessive broodiness is
exacerbating things. My ideal scenario would be that Jakob says he has
had snip, Kate doesn't believe him, hilarious consequences, Kate finally
goes to doctor, nothing there, has to face reality at last.
I hadn't considered the menopausal possibility - she seems too young but
I'm aware it sometimes happens early. The mothers of those I've met also
had early menopause so I guess there is a genetic factor involved - if this
is the case, Alice should bear it in mind.
Why would Jakob (who likes children) have had the snip? Not sure how old he
is but I've also heard of connections being re-established after vasectomy.
I don't remember about him liking children? Have we seen him being
very good with the youthful owners of animals? Or was it with Emma's
or Helen's?
Jim Easterbrook
2020-02-09 12:11:49 UTC
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Why would Jakob (who likes children) have had the snip? Not sure how old
he is but I've also heard of connections being re-established after
vasectomy.
I don't remember about him liking children? Have we seen him being very
good with the youthful owners of animals? Or was it with Emma's or
Helen's?
If Kate says he likes children then he will damn well do as he's told and
like children.
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BrritSki
2020-02-09 14:09:58 UTC
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Why would Jakob (who likes children) have had the snip?
Perhaps it's "likes children" in an SNP Finance Minister sort of way...
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2020-02-09 14:15:59 UTC
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Post by Penny
Why would Jakob (who likes children) have had the snip?
Perhaps it's "likes children" in an SNP Finance Minister sort of way...
Or "but couldn't eat a whole one" ...
(Er - yes, maybe FSVO "eat" the SNP man was ...)
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The average age of a single mum in this country is 37
- Jane Rackham, RT 2016/5/28-6/3
Penny
2020-02-09 15:37:07 UTC
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Post by BrritSki
Post by Penny
Why would Jakob (who likes children) have had the snip?
Perhaps it's "likes children" in an SNP Finance Minister sort of way...
Or "but couldn't eat a whole one" ...
(Er - yes, maybe FSVO "eat" the SNP man was ...)
I think there's a BTN in there somwhere.
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Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959
Sam Plusnet
2020-02-09 20:54:58 UTC
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Post by BrritSki
Post by Penny
Why would Jakob (who likes children) have had the snip?
Perhaps it's "likes children" in an SNP Finance Minister sort of way...
Or "but couldn't eat a whole one" ...
(Er - yes, maybe FSVO "eat" the SNP man was ...)
I think there's a BTN in there somwhere.
You ain't kidding. Brritters is on form.
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Sid Nuncius
2020-02-10 18:59:38 UTC
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Post by BrritSki
Post by Penny
Why would Jakob (who likes children) have had the snip?
Perhaps it's "likes children" in an SNP Finance Minister sort of way...
Or "but couldn't eat a whole one" ...
(Er - yes, maybe FSVO "eat" the SNP man was ...)
I think there's a BTN in there somwhere.
Yes, jointly for Brritski and JPG.
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BrritSki
2020-02-11 08:28:50 UTC
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Post by BrritSki
  Why would Jakob (who likes children) have had the snip?
Perhaps it's "likes children" in an SNP Finance Minister sort of way...
Or "but couldn't eat a whole one" ...
(Er - yes, maybe FSVO "eat" the SNP man was ...)
I think there's a BTN in there somwhere.
Yes, jointly for Brritski and JPG.
Hurrah !
Mike
2020-02-09 14:25:16 UTC
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Post by Penny
Why would Jakob (who likes children) have had the snip?
Perhaps it's "likes children" in an SNP Finance Minister sort of way...
.... but couldn’t eat a whole one...
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Rosalind Mitchell
2020-02-09 18:37:18 UTC
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Post by Penny
Why would Jakob (who likes children) have had the snip?
Perhaps it's "likes children" in an SNP Finance Minister sort of way...
Haha! Dear Derek! You have to wonder who leaked the details to the Sun.
And on whose authorisation. I couldn't possibly comment on whispers
about his ambitions, now thwarted.

R
Nick Odell
2020-02-10 00:13:08 UTC
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Post by Penny
Why would Jakob (who likes children) have had the snip?
Perhaps it's "likes children" in an SNP Finance Minister sort of way...
BTN!!!

N.
Vicky Ayech
2020-02-09 12:04:16 UTC
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On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 09:06:48 +0000, Serena Blanchflower
The trouble was, neither could Jakob believe how outrageous Kate could
be and he clearly had no idea how to deal with it.
Post by Vicky Ayech
Please, please, pretty please can Jakob have had a snip?
That would be wonderful!  If that proved true, I wonder who the actual
father could be ;)
It's been suggested elsewhere (and perhaps here too but I can't find it
any more) that Kate is perimenopausal and has simply missed a period
because that happens sometimes, and that excessive broodiness is
exacerbating things. My ideal scenario would be that Jakob says he has
had snip, Kate doesn't believe him, hilarious consequences, Kate finally
goes to doctor, nothing there, has to face reality at last.
Well, that would be ok too. If she is actually pregnant and he's
snipped thenthere is always the chance it didn't work or something.
And she will insist it's his, or will she? She was very happy to tell
Pip and everyone she'd bounced with Toby. She bragged about it.
Serena Blanchflower
2020-02-09 13:49:17 UTC
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Post by Vicky Ayech
Post by Mike
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, NO!
Quite.
Indeed.
Post by Vicky Ayech
He won't be delighted.
But may feel he should "do the right thing" )-:. [I hope not - Krait's
character _should_ obviate any such feeling. But ...]
Over the past few days, Jakob's been sounded completely incapable of
standing up to her over anything.  More like a rabbit in the headlights
than anything else.
Well, he did say go home. He said he liked his own space. She was
outrageously ignoring the message.  I think this was one of those
frequent moments in TA when we can't believe how outrageous a person
can be and nobody calls them on it. Susan did get called a little
while back. Forget by who. Lynda never seems to. Shula should have
been. Pip got fast action when she ignored Rex saying he didn't want
to discuss it.
The trouble was, neither could Jakob believe how outrageous Kate could
be and he clearly had no idea how to deal with it.
Post by Vicky Ayech
Please, please, pretty please can Jakob have had a snip?
That would be wonderful!  If that proved true, I wonder who the actual
father could be ;)
It's been suggested elsewhere (and perhaps here too but I can't find it
any more) that Kate is perimenopausal and has simply missed a period
because that happens sometimes, and that excessive broodiness is
exacerbating things.  My ideal scenario would be that Jakob says he has
had snip, Kate doesn't believe him, hilarious consequences, Kate finally
goes to doctor, nothing there, has to face reality at last.
Yes, that would be pretty good and entirely in keeping with both characters.
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Best wishes, Serena
War does not determine who is right - only who is left.
BrritSki
2020-02-09 14:08:12 UTC
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It's been suggested elsewhere (and perhaps here too but I can't find it
any more) that Kate is perimenopausal and has simply missed a period
because that happens sometimes, and that excessive broodiness is
exacerbating things.  My ideal scenario would be that Jakob says he has
had snip, Kate doesn't believe him, hilarious consequences, Kate finally
goes to doctor, nothing there, has to face reality at last.
Brilliant. I should make that an OP if I were you :)
Sally Thompson
2020-02-09 11:36:05 UTC
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Post by Vicky Ayech
On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 09:06:48 +0000, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Post by Vicky Ayech
Post by Mike
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, NO!
Quite.
Indeed.
Post by Vicky Ayech
He won't be delighted.
But may feel he should "do the right thing" )-:. [I hope not - Krait's
character _should_ obviate any such feeling. But ...]
Over the past few days, Jakob's been sounded completely incapable of
standing up to her over anything. More like a rabbit in the headlights
than anything else.
Well, he did say go home. He said he liked his own space. She was
outrageously ignoring the message. I think this was one of those
frequent moments in TA when we can't believe how outrageous a person
can be and nobody calls them on it. Susan did get called a little
while back. Forget by who. Lynda never seems to. Shula should have
been. Pip got fast action when she ignored Rex saying he didn't want
to discuss it.
The trouble was, neither could Jakob believe how outrageous Kate could
be and he clearly had no idea how to deal with it.
Post by Vicky Ayech
Please, please, pretty please can Jakob have had a snip?
That would be wonderful! If that proved true, I wonder who the actual
father could be ;)
Menopause probably. Not unknown at that age. Or phantom pregnancy, not
unknown in the broody. Or something nasty in the woodshed she picked up
ages ago. We've never had an STI story in TA have we?
--
Sally in Shropshire, UK
Chris McMillan
2020-02-09 12:49:58 UTC
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Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by Vicky Ayech
On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 09:06:48 +0000, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Post by Vicky Ayech
Post by Mike
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, NO!
Quite.
Indeed.
Post by Vicky Ayech
He won't be delighted.
But may feel he should "do the right thing" )-:. [I hope not - Krait's
character _should_ obviate any such feeling. But ...]
Over the past few days, Jakob's been sounded completely incapable of
standing up to her over anything. More like a rabbit in the headlights
than anything else.
Well, he did say go home. He said he liked his own space. She was
outrageously ignoring the message. I think this was one of those
frequent moments in TA when we can't believe how outrageous a person
can be and nobody calls them on it. Susan did get called a little
while back. Forget by who. Lynda never seems to. Shula should have
been. Pip got fast action when she ignored Rex saying he didn't want
to discuss it.
The trouble was, neither could Jakob believe how outrageous Kate could
be and he clearly had no idea how to deal with it.
Post by Vicky Ayech
Please, please, pretty please can Jakob have had a snip?
That would be wonderful! If that proved true, I wonder who the actual
father could be ;)
Menopause probably. Not unknown at that age. Or phantom pregnancy, not
unknown in the broody. Or something nasty in the woodshed she picked up
ages ago. We've never had an STI story in TA have we?
Doh, Kate was born in 1977.

Sincerely Chris
Sally Thompson
2020-02-09 18:25:32 UTC
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Post by Sally Thompson
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by Vicky Ayech
On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 09:06:48 +0000, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Post by Vicky Ayech
Post by Mike
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, NO!
Quite.
Indeed.
Post by Vicky Ayech
He won't be delighted.
But may feel he should "do the right thing" )-:. [I hope not - Krait's
character _should_ obviate any such feeling. But ...]
Over the past few days, Jakob's been sounded completely incapable of
standing up to her over anything. More like a rabbit in the headlights
than anything else.
Well, he did say go home. He said he liked his own space. She was
outrageously ignoring the message. I think this was one of those
frequent moments in TA when we can't believe how outrageous a person
can be and nobody calls them on it. Susan did get called a little
while back. Forget by who. Lynda never seems to. Shula should have
been. Pip got fast action when she ignored Rex saying he didn't want
to discuss it.
The trouble was, neither could Jakob believe how outrageous Kate could
be and he clearly had no idea how to deal with it.
Post by Vicky Ayech
Please, please, pretty please can Jakob have had a snip?
That would be wonderful! If that proved true, I wonder who the actual
father could be ;)
Menopause probably. Not unknown at that age. Or phantom pregnancy, not
unknown in the broody. Or something nasty in the woodshed she picked up
ages ago. We've never had an STI story in TA have we?
Doh, Kate was born in 1977.
Sincerely Chris
So 43. Early, but not unknown.
--
Sally in Shropshire, UK
Tony Smith Gloucestershire
2020-02-09 15:51:57 UTC
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Menopause probably. Not unknown at that age. Or phantom pregnancy, not
unknown in the broody. Or something nasty in the woodshed she picked up
ages ago. We've never had an STI story in TA have we?
OTOH the daughter of a friend of my wife has just had a real baby at 46.
Nick Odell
2020-02-10 00:26:26 UTC
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Post by Sally Thompson
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by Vicky Ayech
On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 09:06:48 +0000, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Post by Vicky Ayech
Post by Mike
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, NO!
Quite.
Indeed.
Post by Vicky Ayech
He won't be delighted.
But may feel he should "do the right thing" )-:. [I hope not - Krait's
character _should_ obviate any such feeling. But ...]
Over the past few days, Jakob's been sounded completely incapable of
standing up to her over anything. More like a rabbit in the headlights
than anything else.
Well, he did say go home. He said he liked his own space. She was
outrageously ignoring the message. I think this was one of those
frequent moments in TA when we can't believe how outrageous a person
can be and nobody calls them on it. Susan did get called a little
while back. Forget by who. Lynda never seems to. Shula should have
been. Pip got fast action when she ignored Rex saying he didn't want
to discuss it.
The trouble was, neither could Jakob believe how outrageous Kate could
be and he clearly had no idea how to deal with it.
Post by Vicky Ayech
Please, please, pretty please can Jakob have had a snip?
That would be wonderful! If that proved true, I wonder who the actual
father could be ;)
Menopause probably. Not unknown at that age. Or phantom pregnancy, not
unknown in the broody. Or something nasty in the woodshed she picked up
ages ago. We've never had an STI story in TA have we?
I don't think we've had an STI reference in a restaurant review
before, either. But we got one from Jay Rayner on Sunday in The
Observer.

"On the side is a shot of Izarra liqueur, the kind of caustic spirit
you drink too much of on a cheap summer holiday, before an ill-advised
assignation leading only to regret and a prescription for a
broad-spectrum antibiotic."

https://www.theguardian.com/food/2020/feb/09/jay-rayner-restaurant-review-london-seabird-seafood-southwark-hoxton-hotel
is a delight to read. (Spoiler alert: he won't be going back)

Nick
Vicky Ayech
2020-02-10 08:57:42 UTC
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On 9 Feb 2020 11:36:05 GMT, Sally Thompson
<sally.thom
Post by Sally Thompson
Menopause probably. Not unknown at that age. Or phantom pregnancy, not
unknown in the broody. Or something nasty in the woodshed she picked up
ages ago. We've never had an STI story in TA have we?
I don't think we've had an STI reference in a restaurant review
before, either. But we got one from Jay Rayner on Sunday in The
Observer.
"On the side is a shot of Izarra liqueur, the kind of caustic spirit
you drink too much of on a cheap summer holiday, before an ill-advised
assignation leading only to regret and a prescription for a
broad-spectrum antibiotic."
https://www.theguardian.com/food/2020/feb/09/jay-rayner-restaurant-review-london-seabird-seafood-southwark-hoxton-hotel
is a delight to read. (Spoiler alert: he won't be going back)
Nick
"We are first shown to armchair-style seating that makes us sink so
low, we could shovel dinner straight off the table into our mouths
without lifting it. "

and other gems.
Penny
2020-02-10 17:29:47 UTC
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scrawled in the dust...
Post by Vicky Ayech
On Mon, 10 Feb 2020 00:26:26 +0000, Nick Odell
Post by Nick Odell
I don't think we've had an STI reference in a restaurant review
before, either. But we got one from Jay Rayner on Sunday in The
Observer.
"On the side is a shot of Izarra liqueur, the kind of caustic spirit
you drink too much of on a cheap summer holiday, before an ill-advised
assignation leading only to regret and a prescription for a
broad-spectrum antibiotic."
https://www.theguardian.com/food/2020/feb/09/jay-rayner-restaurant-review-london-seabird-seafood-southwark-hoxton-hotel
is a delight to read. (Spoiler alert: he won't be going back)
Nick
"We are first shown to armchair-style seating that makes us sink so
low, we could shovel dinner straight off the table into our mouths
without lifting it. "
and other gems.
I *do* like Jay Rayner - not sure I'd like to share a meal with him though.
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959
Vicky Ayech
2020-02-10 09:02:42 UTC
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Post by Nick Odell
https://www.theguardian.com/food/2020/feb/09/jay-rayner-restaurant-review-london-seabird-seafood-southwark-hoxton-hotel
is a delight to read. (Spoiler alert: he won't be going back)
Nick
Manchego is rarely the answer to anything.
Chris McMillan
2020-02-11 19:03:17 UTC
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On Mon, 10 Feb 2020 00:26:26 +0000, Nick Odell
Post by Nick Odell
https://www.theguardian.com/food/2020/feb/09/jay-rayner-restaurant-review-london-seabird-seafood-southwark-hoxton-hotel
is a delight to read. (Spoiler alert: he won't be going back)
Nick
Manchego is rarely the answer to anything.
LOL. I now eat it all the time but it’s nothing compared to full fat
cheddar with attitude

Sincerely Chris
Tony Smith Gloucestershire
2020-02-11 19:35:40 UTC
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Manchego is probably my favourite cheese and I was eating some just now.
BrritSki
2020-02-11 20:52:21 UTC
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Manchego is probably my favourite cheese and I was eating some just now.
Whereas I've just had some very nice Gorgonzola to round off dinner in
my hotel in Cervinia.

We managed to make it out of Gatwick at 6.30 AM on Sunday despite Ciara,
- there was a very bumpy climb out but a very quick flight - only 75
minutes to Turin.

Unfortunately the weather has been bad with the resort closed for two
days and not at all inviting on the 3rd. Some of the party were chose to
go over to nearby Aosta/Pila for a day but as I'm meeting up with
NortyDorter and family for a few days on Sunday (and as I know it well
anyway) I gave that a miss.

High winds tomorrow as well - luckily I haven't bought a ski pass yet.

Never mind, got lots of books on the Kindle including an Ambrose Parry
which I'm enjoying. How could you not when the author(s) use phrases
like "as warm as an expiring penguin's dying fart". :)
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2020-02-12 01:20:07 UTC
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Post by Tony Smith Gloucestershire
Manchego is probably my favourite cheese and I was eating some just now.
Whereas I've just had some very nice Gorgonzola to round off dinner in
my hotel in Cervinia.
(I like Cambozola: I thought it was a Sainsbury's invention, but I found
it somewhere else, Tesco I think.)
Post by BrritSki
We managed to make it out of Gatwick
I read that as ... well, "the man who turned an airport into cheese".
Post by BrritSki
at 6.30 AM on Sunday despite Ciara, - there was a very bumpy climb out
but a very quick flight - only 75 minutes to Turin.
Ciara has been very helpful to aircraft flying in the right direction,
provided they can survive the take-off and landing; the subsonic New
York to London record time has been broken. (Also the opposite effect on
ones going the other way, though I assume they can avoid the worst of
the jet stream by going above, below, or round it.)
[]
Post by BrritSki
High winds tomorrow as well - luckily I haven't bought a ski pass yet.
Make sure your tour companions haven't been to Singapore or that part of
the world. (I'm _not_ going for a BTN!)
Post by BrritSki
Never mind, got lots of books on the Kindle including an Ambrose Parry
which I'm enjoying. How could you not when the author(s) use phrases
like "as warm as an expiring penguin's dying fart". :)
(-:
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duty." CSI, 200x
BrritSki
2020-02-12 07:37:07 UTC
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Make sure your tour companions haven't been to Singapore or that part of
the world.
Unfortunately the wife of one of the party returned from there the day
before we left. As he is a old as me - and even odder - I'm hoping they
didn't get within 2m of each other in the short period they were together :)
Chris J Dixon
2020-02-12 08:34:29 UTC
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Ciara has been very helpful to aircraft flying in the right direction,
provided they can survive the take-off and landing; the subsonic New
York to London record time has been broken. (Also the opposite effect on
ones going the other way, though I assume they can avoid the worst of
the jet stream by going above, below, or round it.)
The firm I worked for had a Cessna 421, which I flew in a few
times, the most memorably occasion was from Västerås to East
Midlands in headwinds were so strong that we had to stay below
about 10,000 ft in order to make significant progress, which
wasn't particularly comfortable.

The outgoing trip was able to cruise at its usual height, and
took just over 3 hours. The return was over 5 hours, but if we
had been higher, we wouldn't really have made much progress at
all.

Our diversion airport remained on the European mainland until we
were very close to the UK coast.

Chris
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2020-02-12 08:40:17 UTC
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J. P. Gilliver (John) <***@255soft.uk> wrote:
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Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
ones going the other way, though I assume they can avoid the worst of
the jet stream by going above, below, or round it.)
[]
Michael Rosen may be able to advise here...
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Toodle Pip
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2020-02-12 08:52:42 UTC
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(I like Cambozola: I thought it was a Sainsbury's invention, but I found
it somewhere else, Tesco I think.)
Yup, we used to buy Cambozola a few years back; we had a specialist cheese
counter in the Harris Arcade in Reading, purveyor of many wonderful
cheeses. The owner used to drive down to Somerset every week to purchase
some very tasty cheeses from one company and he introduced us to many
varieties of cheeses over the years. We couldn’t resist Gjetost when he
gave us a sample but one cheese I found to be just too much for me was
Rutland! Strangely though, a young Wunderkind liked it!
--
Toodle Pip
Tony Smith Gloucestershire
2020-02-12 09:42:45 UTC
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On Wednesday, 12 February 2020 08:52:46 UTC, Mike wrote:

<snipped>
We couldn’t resist Gjetost when he gave us a sample
<snipped>

Is Gjetost the one like a cross between fudge and cheese? I don't like that one. But Gammelost (your spelling may differ) is quite nice.

My local cheesemonger had a very fine Spanish blue called Picos de Europa, which a friend with a Spanish wife identifies as Cabrales.
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Is Gjetost the one like a cross between fudge and cheese? I don't like
that one. But Gammelost (your spelling may differ) is quite nice.
Yes, verrrry rich, rich brown, solid but softish- but not really
spreadable, expensive, addictive, and, I want some more please!
--
Toodle Pip
Chris McMillan
2020-02-12 15:19:43 UTC
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<snipped>
We couldn’t resist Gjetost when he gave us a sample
<snipped>
Is Gjetost the one like a cross between fudge and cheese? I don't like
that one. But Gammelost (your spelling may differ) is quite nice.
My local cheesemonger had a very fine Spanish blue called Picos de
Europa, which a friend with a Spanish wife identifies as Cabrales.
It is, yes. Not seen that Spanish one. Our Spanish neighbour hates blue
cheese so we’ve not been introduced to it.

Sincerely Chris
Chris McMillan
2020-02-12 15:19:42 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
(I like Cambozola: I thought it was a Sainsbury's invention, but I found
it somewhere else, Tesco I think.)
Yup, we used to buy Cambozola a few years back; we had a specialist cheese
counter in the Harris Arcade in Reading, purveyor of many wonderful
cheeses. The owner used to drive down to Somerset every week to purchase
some very tasty cheeses from one company and he introduced us to many
varieties of cheeses over the years. We couldn’t resist Gjetost when he
gave us a sample but one cheese I found to be just too much for me was
Rutland! Strangely though, a young Wunderkind liked it!
As in still young enough to be in a back pack thing on McToodles back.

Sincerely Chris
Jenny M Benson
2020-02-12 09:50:05 UTC
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I blame my s-i-l for introducing me to that. It is just *too* tasty.
And just the right consistency to anchor a piece of salami on s Jacob's
Sour Cream & Chives Savour. (Made the mistake of buying Black Pepper
Savours once - not the same thing at all, more like a cream cracker,
which I don't like.) Currently enjoying something a bit different
though = the last of the Sinful Flavours cheeses (Ole Smokey, this one)
I bought at the Llandudno Christmas Fayre (their spelling, not mine)
last year.

The LCF 1918 introduced me to Georgie Porgie puddings. I should regret
that, but I don't!!
--
Jenny M Benson
Wrexham, UK
Jim Easterbrook
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Post by BrritSki
at 6.30 AM on Sunday despite Ciara, - there was a very bumpy climb out
but a very quick flight - only 75 minutes to Turin.
Ciara has been very helpful to aircraft flying in the right direction,
provided they can survive the take-off and landing;
On Monday I heard a particularly noisy plane go overhead. I had a look at
www.flightradar24.com and found a plane had been approaching Heathrow
when it did a 135 degree turn and climbed back up to 5000 ft.

For the next few days you can go to
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/ek29#23d0a993
and zoom in on the UK end to see its "interesting" path.
--
Jim <http://www.jim-easterbrook.me.uk/>
1959/1985? M B+ G+ A L- I- S- P-- CH0(p) Ar++ T+ H0 Q--- Sh0
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Post by Jim Easterbrook
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Post by BrritSki
at 6.30 AM on Sunday despite Ciara, - there was a very bumpy climb out
but a very quick flight - only 75 minutes to Turin.
Ciara has been very helpful to aircraft flying in the right direction,
provided they can survive the take-off and landing;
On Monday I heard a particularly noisy plane go overhead. I had a look at
www.flightradar24.com and found a plane had been approaching Heathrow
when it did a 135 degree turn and climbed back up to 5000 ft.
For the next few days you can go to
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/ek29#23d0a993
and zoom in on the UK end to see its "interesting" path.
Blimey!
'Sorry old chap, nowhere for you to land here - nugger off and come back in
half an hour.'
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959
Jim Easterbrook
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scrawled in the dust...
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On Monday I heard a particularly noisy plane go overhead. I had a look
at www.flightradar24.com and found a plane had been approaching Heathrow
when it did a 135 degree turn and climbed back up to 5000 ft.
For the next few days you can go to
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/ek29#23d0a993 and zoom in on
the UK end to see its "interesting" path.
Blimey!
'Sorry old chap, nowhere for you to land here - nugger off and come back
in half an hour.'
Another one did a similar thing today. Also an Emirates flight from Dubai
to Heathrow.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/ek1/#23d5bc0d
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Jim <http://www.jim-easterbrook.me.uk/>
1959/1985? M B+ G+ A L- I- S- P-- CH0(p) Ar++ T+ H0 Q--- Sh0
Penny
2020-02-12 13:49:22 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
(I like Cambozola: I thought it was a Sainsbury's invention, but I found
it somewhere else, Tesco I think.)
I get it from Morrisons, seems to be made in Germany. I don't buy cheese
from eTsco at all, the texture is always wrong. I think the refrigerated
delivery vans must get too cold or something.
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959
Vicky Ayech
2020-02-11 21:42:57 UTC
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Post by Tony Smith Gloucestershire
Manchego is probably my favourite cheese and I was eating some just now.
https://twitter.com/SketchesbyBoze/status/1227248424472498176?s=04

We might be wizards?
Tony Smith Gloucestershire
2020-02-11 22:04:57 UTC
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Grin
Chris McMillan
2020-02-12 15:19:41 UTC
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Manchego is probably my favourite cheese and I was eating some just now.
Lidl sell it if you’re lucky and CBA to rootle through a small box of
European hard cheeses every time you’re passing by.

Sincerely Chris
Tony Smith Gloucestershire
2020-02-18 14:25:22 UTC
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Post by Tony Smith Gloucestershire
Manchego is probably my favourite cheese and I was eating some just now.
Lidl sell it if you’re lucky and CBA to rootle through a small box of
European hard cheeses every time you’re passing by.
Thanks, I had forgotten that box. They had some today.

Sally Thompson
2020-02-10 09:08:37 UTC
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On 9 Feb 2020 11:36:05 GMT, Sally Thompson
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Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by Vicky Ayech
On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 09:06:48 +0000, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Post by Vicky Ayech
Post by Mike
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, NO!
Quite.
Indeed.
Post by Vicky Ayech
He won't be delighted.
But may feel he should "do the right thing" )-:. [I hope not - Krait's
character _should_ obviate any such feeling. But ...]
Over the past few days, Jakob's been sounded completely incapable of
standing up to her over anything. More like a rabbit in the headlights
than anything else.
Well, he did say go home. He said he liked his own space. She was
outrageously ignoring the message. I think this was one of those
frequent moments in TA when we can't believe how outrageous a person
can be and nobody calls them on it. Susan did get called a little
while back. Forget by who. Lynda never seems to. Shula should have
been. Pip got fast action when she ignored Rex saying he didn't want
to discuss it.
The trouble was, neither could Jakob believe how outrageous Kate could
be and he clearly had no idea how to deal with it.
Post by Vicky Ayech
Please, please, pretty please can Jakob have had a snip?
That would be wonderful! If that proved true, I wonder who the actual
father could be ;)
Menopause probably. Not unknown at that age. Or phantom pregnancy, not
unknown in the broody. Or something nasty in the woodshed she picked up
ages ago. We've never had an STI story in TA have we?
I don't think we've had an STI reference in a restaurant review
before, either. But we got one from Jay Rayner on Sunday in The
Observer.
"On the side is a shot of Izarra liqueur, the kind of caustic spirit
you drink too much of on a cheap summer holiday, before an ill-advised
assignation leading only to regret and a prescription for a
broad-spectrum antibiotic."
https://www.theguardian.com/food/2020/feb/09/jay-rayner-restaurant-review-london-seabird-seafood-southwark-hoxton-hotel
is a delight to read. (Spoiler alert: he won't be going back)
I loved that review and his way with words, especially "service is a part
of the deal and if it’s administered with all the grace of an unlubricated
colonoscopy, it has to be mentioned".

Still laughing.
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Sally in Shropshire, UK
Penny
2020-02-09 11:06:55 UTC
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Over the past few days, Jakob's been sounded completely incapable of
standing up to her over anything. More like a rabbit in the headlights
than anything else.
When she first dumped herself upon him and asked what they were going to
eat he said, "Well I'm having steak. You can cook yourself something from
the food you brought with you." which I thought a rather marvellous
response.
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Annoyed by The Archers since 1959
Vicky Ayech
2020-02-09 12:01:24 UTC
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Post by Serena Blanchflower
Over the past few days, Jakob's been sounded completely incapable of
standing up to her over anything. More like a rabbit in the headlights
than anything else.
When she first dumped herself upon him and asked what they were going to
eat he said, "Well I'm having steak. You can cook yourself something from
the food you brought with you." which I thought a rather marvellous
response.
Yes, I had hopes of him then. I didn't like him when he arrived but if
he takes Kate's stuff over to Peggy's and changes the locks I will.
Serena Blanchflower
2020-02-09 14:17:47 UTC
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On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 09:06:48 +0000, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Over the past few days, Jakob's been sounded completely incapable of
standing up to her over anything. More like a rabbit in the headlights
than anything else.
When she first dumped herself upon him and asked what they were going to
eat he said, "Well I'm having steak. You can cook yourself something from
the food you brought with you." which I thought a rather marvellous
response.
Yes, that was great but, despite that, he allowed himself to be
railroaded into making a stir fry for her - it wasn't made clear whether
his steak remained separate from the stir fry or whether she was offered
a steak stir fry. Given that we didn't hear any outraged shrieks from
Kate, I assume they remained separate though.
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2020-02-08 07:36:38 UTC
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Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, NO!
Quite.
He won't be delighted. And isn't she a bit old?
I always thought that her personality was her contraceptive . . .
That has failed three rimes!
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J. P. Gilliver (John)
2020-02-08 10:06:38 UTC
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Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, NO!
Quite.
He won't be delighted. And isn't she a bit old?
I always thought that her personality was her contraceptive . . .
That has failed three rimes!
Well, she sometimes does adopt a holeyer-than-thou stance ...
(No, I didn't mean her stance _during_ conception.)
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Tony Smith Gloucestershire
2020-02-08 16:12:34 UTC
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(No, I didn't mean her stance _during_ conception.)
--
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Mike
2020-02-08 16:38:13 UTC
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(No, I didn't mean her stance _during_ conception.)
--
"The Sultan and the Slave Girl were arranged as in the diagram"
Diagrams work best in print or on radio...
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Mike
2020-02-08 16:39:24 UTC
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(No, I didn't mean her stance _during_ conception.)
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"The Sultan and the Slave Girl were arranged as in the diagram"
Diagrams work best in print or on radio...
I meant ‘text’ rather than print.
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Tony Smith Gloucestershire
2020-02-10 09:00:21 UTC
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(No, I didn't mean her stance _during_ conception.)
--
"The Sultan and the Slave Girl were arranged as in the diagram"
Or, following mention of Aristophanes in another thread, the "Lioness on the Cheesegrater" mentioned by Lysistrata.
Clive Arthur
2020-02-08 12:01:56 UTC
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Post by Mike
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, NO!
Quite.
He won't be delighted. And isn't she a bit old?
I always thought that her personality was her contraceptive . . .
It seems that nominative determinism doesn't apply to Jackoff.
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Clive
Mike
2020-02-08 12:15:28 UTC
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Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, NO!
Quite.
He won't be delighted. And isn't she a bit old?
I always thought that her personality was her contraceptive . . .
It seems that nominative determinism doesn't apply to Jackoff.
Perhaps one or the other, (or preferably both!) should have been ‘vetted’.
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Toodle Pip
carolet
2020-02-11 13:01:41 UTC
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Post by Mike
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, NO!
Quite.
He won't be delighted. And isn't she a bit old?
Last night Alistair was talking about Jakob. Alistair said that Jakob
was unflabble, that he couldn't imagine anything that would really
unsettle him.

I think we can all imagine something that will unsettle and flap him any
day now.

The question is, will it be Kate that tells Jakob about the baby, or
will Chris congratulate him on the forthcoming happy event?
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Vicky Ayech
2020-02-11 13:36:38 UTC
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Post by Vicky Ayech
Post by Mike
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, NO!
Quite.
He won't be delighted. And isn't she a bit old?
Last night Alistair was talking about Jakob. Alistair said that Jakob
was unflabble, that he couldn't imagine anything that would really
unsettle him.
I think we can all imagine something that will unsettle and flap him any
day now.
The question is, will it be Kate that tells Jakob about the baby, or
will Chris congratulate him on the forthcoming happy event?
Or will Chris tell Susan and she will congratulate him. Or she will
'overhear' Chris talking to Alice and find out and congratulate Jakob.
Or was the comment about Jakob can cope with anything, except cake, a
red herring and Kate will find out it was a false alarm before telling
him.
Mike
2020-02-11 13:54:02 UTC
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Post by carolet
Post by Vicky Ayech
Post by Mike
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, NO!
Quite.
He won't be delighted. And isn't she a bit old?
Last night Alistair was talking about Jakob. Alistair said that Jakob
was unflabble, that he couldn't imagine anything that would really
unsettle him.
I think we can all imagine something that will unsettle and flap him any
day now.
The question is, will it be Kate that tells Jakob about the baby, or
will Chris congratulate him on the forthcoming happy event?
Or will Chris tell Susan and she will congratulate him. Or she will
'overhear' Chris talking to Alice and find out and congratulate Jakob.
Or was the comment about Jakob can cope with anything, except cake, a
red herring and Kate will find out it was a false alarm before telling
him.
Or Soooooooozan will broadcast the news to everyone.
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SODAM
2020-02-12 14:37:34 UTC
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The question is, will it be Kate that tells Jakob about the baby, or
will Chris congratulate him on the forthcoming happy event?
Or will Chris tell Susan and she will congratulate him. Or she will
'overhear' Chris talking to Alice and find out and congratulate Jakob.
Or was the comment about Jakob can cope with anything, except cake, a
red herring and Kate will find out it was a false alarm before telling
him.
I loved the suggestion that Kate may be pre-menopausal and there is no
baby. She will take the most dramatic line possible on her “pregnancy” then
try an intense moral blackmail when she “loses our baby”.

It will be interesting to see how Jakob reacts.
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Mike
2020-02-12 15:45:21 UTC
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Post by Vicky Ayech
Post by carolet
The question is, will it be Kate that tells Jakob about the baby, or
will Chris congratulate him on the forthcoming happy event?
Or will Chris tell Susan and she will congratulate him. Or she will
'overhear' Chris talking to Alice and find out and congratulate Jakob.
Or was the comment about Jakob can cope with anything, except cake, a
red herring and Kate will find out it was a false alarm before telling
him.
I loved the suggestion that Kate may be pre-menopausal and there is no
baby. She will take the most dramatic line possible on her “pregnancy” then
try an intense moral blackmail when she “loses our baby”.
It will be interesting to see how Jakob reacts.
If this is not possible - and she is actually preggers, then never was
there a better justification for an abortion. Why ever should one subject
any foetus to a Kate fate???!!!
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John Ashby
2020-02-12 15:51:24 UTC
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Post by SODAM
Post by Vicky Ayech
Post by carolet
The question is, will it be Kate that tells Jakob about the baby, or
will Chris congratulate him on the forthcoming happy event?
Or will Chris tell Susan and she will congratulate him. Or she will
'overhear' Chris talking to Alice and find out and congratulate Jakob.
Or was the comment about Jakob can cope with anything, except cake, a
red herring and Kate will find out it was a false alarm before telling
him.
I loved the suggestion that Kate may be pre-menopausal and there is no
baby. She will take the most dramatic line possible on her “pregnancy” then
try an intense moral blackmail when she “loses our baby”.
It will be interesting to see how Jakob reacts.
If this is not possible - and she is actually preggers, then never was
there a better justification for an abortion. Why ever should one subject
any foetus to a Kate fate???!!!
How would you rate a Kate fate, mate?

john
Mike
2020-02-12 16:03:24 UTC
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The question is, will it be Kate that tells Jakob about the baby, or
will Chris congratulate him on the forthcoming happy event?
Or will Chris tell Susan and she will congratulate him. Or she will
'overhear' Chris talking to Alice and find out and congratulate Jakob.
Or was the comment about Jakob can cope with anything, except cake, a
red herring and Kate will find out it was a false alarm before telling
him.
I loved the suggestion that Kate may be pre-menopausal and there is no
baby. She will take the most dramatic line possible on her “pregnancy” then
try an intense moral blackmail when she “loses our baby”.
It will be interesting to see how Jakob reacts.
If this is not possible - and she is actually preggers, then never was
there a better justification for an abortion. Why ever should one subject
any foetus to a Kate fate???!!!
How would you rate a Kate fate, mate?
john
I’d be prostrate mate!
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Sid Nuncius
2020-02-12 19:15:18 UTC
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If this is not possible - and she is actually preggers, then never was
there a better justification for an abortion. Why ever should one subject
any foetus to a Kate fate???!!!
How would you rate a Kate fate, mate?
Not great.
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BrritSki
2020-02-12 19:40:35 UTC
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If this is not possible - and she is actually preggers, then never was
there a better justification for an abortion. Why ever should one subject
any foetus to a Kate fate???!!!
How would you rate a Kate fate, mate?
Not great.
Will this spate soon abate ? Starting to grate.
Sid Nuncius
2020-02-13 05:58:00 UTC
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Post by Mike
If this is not possible - and she is actually preggers, then never was
there a better justification for an abortion. Why ever should one subject
any foetus to a Kate fate???!!!
How would you rate a Kate fate, mate?
Not great.
Will this spate soon abate ?  Starting to grate.
Too late to get irate, even if you hate it.
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Mike
2020-02-13 08:20:12 UTC
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If this is not possible - and she is actually preggers, then never was
there a better justification for an abortion. Why ever should one subject
any foetus to a Kate fate???!!!
How would you rate a Kate fate, mate?
Not great.
Will this spate soon abate ? Starting to grate.
On a plate, that’s the trait of the late state,
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Vicky Ayech
2020-02-12 17:51:58 UTC
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The question is, will it be Kate that tells Jakob about the baby, or
will Chris congratulate him on the forthcoming happy event?
Or will Chris tell Susan and she will congratulate him. Or she will
'overhear' Chris talking to Alice and find out and congratulate Jakob.
Or was the comment about Jakob can cope with anything, except cake, a
red herring and Kate will find out it was a false alarm before telling
him.
I loved the suggestion that Kate may be pre-menopausal and there is no
baby. She will take the most dramatic line possible on her “pregnancy” then
try an intense moral blackmail when she “loses our baby”.
It will be interesting to see how Jakob reacts.
If this is not possible - and she is actually preggers, then never was
there a better justification for an abortion. Why ever should one subject
any foetus to a Kate fate???!!!
The RT blurb for next week is depressing.


Emma and Gavin continue to grow close :(

Kate returns from her course and naturally brings drama back home with
her. As she and Jakob make plans, Kate makes an admission that could
change everything.

The bit about Will Lynda come out on top in the resulting clash with
Lilian
is depressing too. I want Lilian to shut up and go away and leave The
Bull as the name.
Serena Blanchflower
2020-02-11 17:18:49 UTC
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Post by Mike
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, NO!
Quite.
He won't be delighted.   And isn't she a bit old?
Last night Alistair was talking about Jakob. Alistair said that Jakob
was unflabble, that he couldn't imagine anything that would really
unsettle him.
I think we can all imagine something that will unsettle and flap him any
day now.
The question is, will it be Kate that tells Jakob about the baby, or
will Chris congratulate him on the forthcoming happy event?
I'm pretty sure it's going to be the latter (and the spoilers suggest
this will be on Wednesday). My heart sank, when Chris commented on how
Jakob was likely to have taken the news and Alice didn't tell him that
Jakob didn't yet know :(
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Be yourself, everyone else is taken (Oscar Wilde)
Vicky Ayech
2020-02-11 17:39:56 UTC
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Post by carolet
Post by Vicky Ayech
Post by Mike
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, NO!
Quite.
He won't be delighted.   And isn't she a bit old?
Last night Alistair was talking about Jakob. Alistair said that Jakob
was unflabble, that he couldn't imagine anything that would really
unsettle him.
I think we can all imagine something that will unsettle and flap him any
day now.
The question is, will it be Kate that tells Jakob about the baby, or
will Chris congratulate him on the forthcoming happy event?
I'm pretty sure it's going to be the latter (and the spoilers suggest
this will be on Wednesday). My heart sank, when Chris commented on how
Jakob was likely to have taken the news and Alice didn't tell him that
Jakob didn't yet know :(
I like the idea Kate turns out not to be pregnant but Susan spreads
the news and is once again shown as a snoopy gossip.
Sam Plusnet
2020-02-11 20:21:25 UTC
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I like the idea Kate turns out not to be pregnant but Susan spreads
the news and is once again shown as a snoopy gossip.
But Susan being shown to be a snoopy gossip is likely to have as much
effect as Trump being show to be less than honest.
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Anne B
2020-02-08 16:56:02 UTC
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Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, NO!
I went to the local astronomy club last night. Arriving shortly before
the end of TA, I waited in the car to hear the end of the programme. As
I got out of my car I heard 'Barwick Green' from at least two more cars
as their doors opened, and several of us had a highly satisfactory
giggle all the way across the car park to the hall.

Brilliant bit of storyline. Typical Krait, and just replete with ominous
implications.

Anne B
Vicky Ayech
2020-02-08 17:34:09 UTC
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Post by Anne B
Post by Mike
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, NO!
I went to the local astronomy club last night. Arriving shortly before
the end of TA, I waited in the car to hear the end of the programme. As
I got out of my car I heard 'Barwick Green' from at least two more cars
as their doors opened, and several of us had a highly satisfactory
giggle all the way across the car park to the hall.
Brilliant bit of storyline. Typical Krait, and just replete with ominous
implications.
Anne B
Best suggestion seen so far is that Jakob is either inthingyumbrella
like Ian or had the snip.
Chris McMillan
2020-02-09 12:49:57 UTC
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Post by Mike
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, NO!
I went to the local astronomy club last night. Arriving shortly before
the end of TA, I waited in the car to hear the end of the programme. As
I got out of my car I heard 'Barwick Green' from at least two more cars
as their doors opened, and several of us had a highly satisfactory
giggle all the way across the car park to the hall.
Brilliant bit of storyline. Typical Krait, and just replete with ominous
implications.
Anne B
A Saturnalia baby? No doubt there could be a lot of plot devoted to being
vegan and pregnant, bit cold for a birth in a tent, even a yurt perhaps?
Lots of advice on how Krait wishes her pregnancy to be managed, and effer
fussing like mad. Thinks, must look up how old effer was when she had
Aliss.

Sincerely Chris
Penny
2020-02-09 13:07:37 UTC
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must look up how old effer was when she had
Aliss.
About 43.
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Vicky Ayech
2020-02-09 13:26:12 UTC
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Post by Anne B
Post by Mike
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, NO!
I went to the local astronomy club last night. Arriving shortly before
the end of TA, I waited in the car to hear the end of the programme. As
I got out of my car I heard 'Barwick Green' from at least two more cars
as their doors opened, and several of us had a highly satisfactory
giggle all the way across the car park to the hall.
Brilliant bit of storyline. Typical Krait, and just replete with ominous
implications.
Anne B
A Saturnalia baby? No doubt there could be a lot of plot devoted to being
vegan and pregnant, bit cold for a birth in a tent, even a yurt perhaps?
Lots of advice on how Krait wishes her pregnancy to be managed, and effer
fussing like mad. Thinks, must look up how old effer was when she had
Aliss.
Sincerely Chris
#1 daughter had a baby while being vegan.Actually two. One 13 years
ago and one 4 years ago. The former was during a time when there were
fewer commercial vegan foods available and fewer restaurants catered
for vegans. And we visited Spain together while she was pregnant and
they were not very good there for vegans then.
Chris McMillan
2020-02-10 09:58:55 UTC
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Post by Chris McMillan
Post by Anne B
Post by Mike
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, NO!
I went to the local astronomy club last night. Arriving shortly before
the end of TA, I waited in the car to hear the end of the programme. As
I got out of my car I heard 'Barwick Green' from at least two more cars
as their doors opened, and several of us had a highly satisfactory
giggle all the way across the car park to the hall.
Brilliant bit of storyline. Typical Krait, and just replete with ominous
implications.
Anne B
A Saturnalia baby? No doubt there could be a lot of plot devoted to being
vegan and pregnant, bit cold for a birth in a tent, even a yurt perhaps?
Lots of advice on how Krait wishes her pregnancy to be managed, and effer
fussing like mad. Thinks, must look up how old effer was when she had
Aliss.
Sincerely Chris
#1 daughter had a baby while being vegan.Actually two. One 13 years
ago and one 4 years ago. The former was during a time when there were
fewer commercial vegan foods available and fewer restaurants catered
for vegans. And we visited Spain together while she was pregnant and
they were not very good there for vegans then.
Effer will fuss believing Krait needs meat and dairy and Krait will perfect
toys out of her pram. Oh, and she can’t possibly stay at Prggoi’s, Jakob’s
is the only place to be. OP.

Sincerely Chris
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