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BrritSki
2020-10-31 13:57:46 UTC
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Sean Connery.
The best Bond ever.
Quel connerie as they say in France....
Mike McMillan
2020-10-31 14:03:40 UTC
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Sean Connery.
The best Bond ever.
Quel connerie as they say in France....
The Grim Reaper has succeeded where OddJob failed...
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Peter
2020-10-31 14:13:56 UTC
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Sean Connery.
The best Bond ever.
Quel connerie as they say in France....
The Grim Reaper has succeeded where OddJob failed...
I take my hat off to him.
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recognized as one of the villains of this century, in order to
induce him to a negative judgment, he replied: "My situation is
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Penny
2020-10-31 14:48:02 UTC
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Sean Connery.
The best Bond ever.
Quel connerie as they say in France....
:(
You only die once.
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Mike McMillan
2020-10-31 14:54:09 UTC
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Sean Connery.
The best Bond ever.
Quel connerie as they say in France....
:(
You only die once.
And you don’t get a rehearsal either!
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Sam Plusnet
2020-10-31 21:22:28 UTC
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Sean Connery.
The best Bond ever.
Quel connerie as they say in France....
:(
You only die once.
And you don’t get a rehearsal either!
I thought cowards were supposed to have lots of them?

(Do we blame Julius Caesar or Bill Shakespeare for that one?)
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Mike McMillan
2020-11-01 10:31:51 UTC
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Sean Connery.
The best Bond ever.
Quel connerie as they say in France....
:(
You only die once.
And you don’t get a rehearsal either!
I thought cowards were supposed to have lots of them?
(Do we blame Julius Caesar or Bill Shakespeare for that one?)
Or perhaps Noel?
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Penny
2020-11-01 14:00:00 UTC
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Sean Connery.
The best Bond ever.
Quel connerie as they say in France....
:(
You only die once.
And you don’t get a rehearsal either!
I thought cowards were supposed to have lots of them?
I thought that was Frenchmen - many little ones.
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Steve Hague
2020-11-01 14:33:07 UTC
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Sean Connery.
The best Bond ever.
Quel connerie as they say in France....
:(
You only die once.
And you don’t get a rehearsal either!
I thought cowards were supposed to have lots of them?
I thought that was Frenchmen - many little ones.
I most remember Sean Connery for Dr No, and it's not him I remember it
for, it's Ursula Andress in that white bikini. I've never forgotten
that, and don't really want to.
Steve
Nick Odell
2020-11-01 15:32:43 UTC
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Sean Connery.
The best Bond ever.
Quel connerie as they say in France....
:(
You only die once.
And you don’t get a rehearsal either!
I thought cowards were supposed to have lots of them?
I thought that was Frenchmen - many little ones.
I most remember Sean Connery for Dr No, and it's not him I remember it
for, it's Ursula Andress in that white bikini. I've never forgotten
that, and don't really want to.
Up for sale this month...
https://edition.cnn.com/style/article/remember-when-ursula-andress-bond-bikini/index.html

Why not put on a bid?

Nick
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2020-11-01 16:02:50 UTC
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I most remember Sean Connery for Dr No, and it's not him I remember it
There are two of him - the young Bond (and others), and the grizzled
older (Red October, name of the rose, Indiana Jones).
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for, it's Ursula Andress in that white bikini. I've never forgotten
that, and don't really want to.
(-: Like Ms. Monroe's undies, quite chaste by modern standards. And
somehow all the more erotic for that.
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Up for sale this month...
https://edition.cnn.com/style/article/remember-when-ursula-andress-bond-
bikini/index.html
I bet it'll go for a lot; SC's demise probably won't harm the price.
Post by Nick Odell
Why not put on a bid?
Nick
(Interesting; my first thought was "I'd have said in rather than on",
but 'on' actually makes slightly more sense. I think it's that 'in' is
more commonly used for that these days. Or am I [and/or Nick] confusing
with bets, which most certainly are more commonly put "on"?)
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Radio Times, 7-13 June, 2003.
Nick Odell
2020-11-02 00:46:25 UTC
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Post by Nick Odell
Why not put on a bid?
Nick
(Interesting; my first thought was "I'd have said in rather than on",
but 'on' actually makes slightly more sense. I think it's that 'in' is
more commonly used for that these days. Or am I [and/or Nick] confusing
with bets, which most certainly are more commonly put "on"?)
Interesting: before I posted that I played around with both and
decided that, on balance, "on" looked righterer than "in."

Any chance of a definitive judgement?

Nick
Peter
2020-11-01 21:56:17 UTC
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Post by Nick Odell
Why not put on a bid?
Nick
(Interesting; my first thought was "I'd have said in rather than on",
but 'on' actually makes slightly more sense. I think it's that 'in' is
more commonly used for that these days. Or am I [and/or Nick] confusing
with bets, which most certainly are more commonly put "on"?)
Interesting: before I posted that I played around with both and
decided that, on balance, "on" looked righterer than "in."
Any chance of a definitive judgement?
Nick
If you dribble you should put on a bib.
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When, once, reference was made to a statesman almost universally
recognized as one of the villains of this century, in order to
induce him to a negative judgment, he replied: "My situation is
so different from his, that it is not for me to pass judgment".
Ernst Specker on Paul Bernays
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2020-11-01 21:59:00 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
On Sun, 1 Nov 2020 at 12:32:43, Nick Odell
Post by Nick Odell
Why not put on a bid?
Nick
(Interesting; my first thought was "I'd have said in rather than on",
but 'on' actually makes slightly more sense. I think it's that 'in' is
more commonly used for that these days. Or am I [and/or Nick] confusing
with bets, which most certainly are more commonly put "on"?)
Interesting: before I posted that I played around with both and
decided that, on balance, "on" looked righterer than "in."
Any chance of a definitive judgement?
Nick
Not from me! And I won't ask bro - he would sigh (being a lexicographer
is a bit like being a doctor in that respect), and then if he felt like
it, would cite examples showing both forms have been in use since 1653
... (-:

For me: for a bet, "on" - "put in a bet" would sound very odd. For a bid
- "in" wouldn't draw my attention, but thinking about it, maybe it has
more a feeling of remote about it: an online auction, say, you'd put (or
even send) _in_ a bid, but one where you actually attended, maybe on.

Actually, when this sort of question has arisen, I've seen sometimes
people post a link to a graph showing how common both forms have been
over the last century or so. Though I think the phrase in this case is a
bit long for the corpus search engine, though ICBWAB.
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Anne B
2020-11-01 23:12:38 UTC
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Post by Nick Odell
Why not put on a bid?
Nick
(Interesting; my first thought was "I'd have said in rather than on",
but 'on' actually makes slightly more sense. I think it's that 'in' is
more commonly used for that these days. Or am I [and/or Nick] confusing
with bets, which most certainly are more commonly put "on"?)
Interesting: before I posted that I played around with both and
decided that, on balance, "on" looked righterer than "in."
Any chance of a definitive judgement?
Nick
Dodge the issue by saying "Why not place a bet?"

Anne B
Penny
2020-11-01 23:24:08 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
On Sun, 1 Nov 2020 at 12:32:43, Nick Odell
Post by Nick Odell
Why not put on a bid?
Nick
(Interesting; my first thought was "I'd have said in rather than on",
but 'on' actually makes slightly more sense. I think it's that 'in' is
more commonly used for that these days. Or am I [and/or Nick] confusing
with bets, which most certainly are more commonly put "on"?)
Interesting: before I posted that I played around with both and
decided that, on balance, "on" looked righterer than "in."
Gosh, as a typo-fairy, I'd assumed it was the all-too-common IO error...
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Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Any chance of a definitive judgement?
... but would then have pondered it for a while before leaving it as it
was.

My preference would be 'in', like John, 'on' relates to bets in my mind.
OTOH, what is a bid but a gamble?
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Vicky Ayech
2020-11-02 08:18:35 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
On Sun, 1 Nov 2020 at 12:32:43, Nick Odell
Post by Nick Odell
Why not put on a bid?
Nick
(Interesting; my first thought was "I'd have said in rather than on",
but 'on' actually makes slightly more sense. I think it's that 'in' is
more commonly used for that these days. Or am I [and/or Nick] confusing
with bets, which most certainly are more commonly put "on"?)
Interesting: before I posted that I played around with both and
decided that, on balance, "on" looked righterer than "in."
Gosh, as a typo-fairy, I'd assumed it was the all-too-common IO error...
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Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Any chance of a definitive judgement?
... but would then have pondered it for a while before leaving it as it
was.
My preference would be 'in', like John, 'on' relates to bets in my mind.
OTOH, what is a bid but a gamble?
I feel put on a bid needs a target. On seems more transitive. Put a
bid on St Shula at two to one to win a vicarship. Put a bid in is less
directed?
Penny
2020-11-02 08:55:27 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
On Sun, 1 Nov 2020 at 12:32:43, Nick Odell
Post by Nick Odell
Why not put on a bid?
Nick
(Interesting; my first thought was "I'd have said in rather than on",
but 'on' actually makes slightly more sense. I think it's that 'in' is
more commonly used for that these days. Or am I [and/or Nick] confusing
with bets, which most certainly are more commonly put "on"?)
Interesting: before I posted that I played around with both and
decided that, on balance, "on" looked righterer than "in."
Gosh, as a typo-fairy, I'd assumed it was the all-too-common IO error...
Post by Nick Odell
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Any chance of a definitive judgement?
... but would then have pondered it for a while before leaving it as it
was.
My preference would be 'in', like John, 'on' relates to bets in my mind.
OTOH, what is a bid but a gamble?
I feel put on a bid needs a target. On seems more transitive. Put a
bid on St Shula at two to one to win a vicarship. Put a bid in is less
directed?
Oh nooo, you bid to buy something, you bet to win some money. Although
people do talk about 'winning' something on ebay - because there is
competition in an auction - but they end up with a 'thing', not cash.
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Vicky Ayech
2020-11-02 09:01:49 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
On Sun, 1 Nov 2020 at 12:32:43, Nick Odell
Post by Nick Odell
Why not put on a bid?
Nick
(Interesting; my first thought was "I'd have said in rather than on",
but 'on' actually makes slightly more sense. I think it's that 'in' is
more commonly used for that these days. Or am I [and/or Nick] confusing
with bets, which most certainly are more commonly put "on"?)
Interesting: before I posted that I played around with both and
decided that, on balance, "on" looked righterer than "in."
Gosh, as a typo-fairy, I'd assumed it was the all-too-common IO error...
Post by Nick Odell
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Any chance of a definitive judgement?
... but would then have pondered it for a while before leaving it as it
was.
My preference would be 'in', like John, 'on' relates to bets in my mind.
OTOH, what is a bid but a gamble?
I feel put on a bid needs a target. On seems more transitive. Put a
bid on St Shula at two to one to win a vicarship. Put a bid in is less
directed?
Oh nooo, you bid to buy something, you bet to win some money. Although
people do talk about 'winning' something on ebay - because there is
competition in an auction - but they end up with a 'thing', not cash.
But bid to is a different kind of sentence. There is no on or in.
John Ashby
2020-11-02 14:09:54 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
On Sun, 1 Nov 2020 at 12:32:43, Nick Odell
Post by Nick Odell
Why not put on a bid?
Nick
(Interesting; my first thought was "I'd have said in rather than on",
but 'on' actually makes slightly more sense. I think it's that 'in' is
more commonly used for that these days. Or am I [and/or Nick] confusing
with bets, which most certainly are more commonly put "on"?)
Interesting: before I posted that I played around with both and
decided that, on balance, "on" looked righterer than "in."
Gosh, as a typo-fairy, I'd assumed it was the all-too-common IO error...
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Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Any chance of a definitive judgement?
... but would then have pondered it for a while before leaving it as it
was.
My preference would be 'in', like John, 'on' relates to bets in my mind.
OTOH, what is a bid but a gamble?
I feel put on a bid needs a target. On seems more transitive. Put a
bid on St Shula at two to one to win a vicarship. Put a bid in is less
directed?
Oh nooo, you bid to buy something, you bet to win some money. Although
people do talk about 'winning' something on ebay - because there is
competition in an auction - but they end up with a 'thing', not cash.
But bid to is a different kind of sentence. There is no on or in.
It's a different kind of bid, surley (TWATBILI). More a request or
order, as in "I bid you to come to my house for (a socially distanced)
tea". The recipient of such a R or O might do my bidding. Or not.

And with that, I bid you adieu.

john
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2020-11-02 23:28:38 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
On Sun, 1 Nov 2020 at 12:32:43, Nick Odell
Post by Nick Odell
Why not put on a bid?
Nick
(Interesting; my first thought was "I'd have said in rather than on",
but 'on' actually makes slightly more sense. I think it's that 'in' is
more commonly used for that these days. Or am I [and/or Nick] confusing
with bets, which most certainly are more commonly put "on"?)
Interesting: before I posted that I played around with both and
decided that, on balance, "on" looked righterer than "in."
Gosh, as a typo-fairy, I'd assumed it was the all-too-common IO error...
Post by Nick Odell
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Any chance of a definitive judgement?
... but would then have pondered it for a while before leaving it as it
was.
My preference would be 'in', like John, 'on' relates to bets in my mind.
OTOH, what is a bid but a gamble?
I feel put on a bid needs a target. On seems more transitive. Put a
bid on St Shula at two to one to win a vicarship. Put a bid in is less
directed?
I'd think of perhaps putting bids into a bowl, or passing them through a
hole in a wall. There's definitely a sense of movement, directionality.
Whereas bets are just _on_ the table - the only movement is to separate
the money/chips you're betting from the rest of your stash, which is as
little movement as is necessary to make the distinction clear.
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Post by Penny
Oh nooo, you bid to buy something, you bet to win some money. Although
people do talk about 'winning' something on ebay - because there is
competition in an auction - but they end up with a 'thing', not cash.
Agreed.
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Post by Vicky Ayech
But bid to is a different kind of sentence. There is no on or in.
It's a different kind of bid, surley (TWATBILI). More a request or
order, as in "I bid you to come to my house for (a socially distanced)
tea". The recipient of such a R or O might do my bidding. Or not.
Yes, there it means ask, request, order.
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And with that, I bid you adieu.
That's yet another meaning I think - just similar to "state", "declare"!
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john
I must say it pleases and cheers me that there are sufficient others to
have a conversation like this, about words.
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Joe Kerr
2020-11-01 21:38:33 UTC
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Sean Connery.
The best Bond ever.
Quel connerie as they say in France....
:(
You only die once.
And you don’t get a rehearsal either!
I thought cowards were supposed to have lots of them?
I thought that was Frenchmen - many little ones.
I most remember Sean Connery for Dr No, and it's not him I remember it
for, it's Ursula Andress in that white bikini. I've never forgotten
that, and don't really want to.
Steve
In the book there was no white bikini.[*]

* Other colours of bikini also weren't present.
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2020-11-01 15:48:01 UTC
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Sean Connery.
The best Bond ever.
Quel connerie as they say in France....
:(
You only die once.
And you don’t get a rehearsal either!
I thought cowards were supposed to have lots of them?
I thought that was Frenchmen - many little ones.
Come again ?
Sam Plusnet
2020-11-01 22:36:29 UTC
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Sean Connery.
The best Bond ever.
Quel connerie as they say in France....
:(
You only die once.
And you don’t get a rehearsal either!
I thought cowards were supposed to have lots of them?
I thought that was Frenchmen - many little ones.
We approach from different directions.

I would have suggested some jeune femme.
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Sam Plusnet
Peter
2020-11-01 21:55:04 UTC
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Sean Connery.
The best Bond ever.
Quel connerie as they say in France....
Was he any good as an actor? I was never a fan of the Bond films, which
I recall as being even more preposterous than the books. A recurring
theme was that the baddy's henchmen were trying to kill Bond and he was
bumping them off with well-aimed bullets (why couldn't the henchmen aim
as well? I don't know). Eventually they would get him cornered and
there was no doubt that they could then kill him. Did they do so? No,
they took him to the baddy who preceded to tell Bond the details of his
plans for world-domination and to invite him (B.) to join him (b.).

I recall one laugh-out-load moment in the Bond films. Goldfinger was
about to slice Bond in two with a laser, and Bond says "You expect me to
talk?". Gf replies "no, Mr Bond, I expect you to die." Well I thought
it was funny. Maybe you had to be there.

I am not a fan of spy-things generally, though Smiley has a certain style.
--
When, once, reference was made to a statesman almost universally
recognized as one of the villains of this century, in order to
induce him to a negative judgment, he replied: "My situation is
so different from his, that it is not for me to pass judgment".
Ernst Specker on Paul Bernays
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2020-11-01 22:12:40 UTC
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Sean Connery.
The best Bond ever.
Quel connerie as they say in France....
Was he any good as an actor? I was never a fan of the Bond films,
I'd say he was - see some of his _other_ films. (There was a good -
unscheduled - prog. about him, I think it was yesterday on BBC2 after
the rugby, in place of a QI XL.) The criticism that he always played
Sean Connery has _some_ validity, but isn't IMO a strong criticism.
Post by Peter
which I recall as being even more preposterous than the books. A
I've never read any of the books, so couldn't say; I think the main
attractions of the films were the set pieces, the ridiculous plots
themselves just for _being_ ridiculous, the stunts, the gadgets and the
girls (just for being attractive in the earlier ones, being strong
characters [and still attractive!] in the later).
Post by Peter
recurring theme was that the baddy's henchmen were trying to kill Bond
and he was bumping them off with well-aimed bullets (why couldn't the
henchmen aim as well? I don't know). Eventually they would get him
Yes, but that's a shortcoming of many (most?) films and TV series that
involve guns. (I stopped watching NCIS - LA when that got _too_
unbelievable.)
Post by Peter
cornered and there was no doubt that they could then kill him. Did
they do so? No, they took him to the baddy who preceded to tell Bond
the details of his plans for world-domination and to invite him (B.) to
join him (b.).
Indeed, thus giving B. the chance to escape (or something like that).
Post by Peter
I recall one laugh-out-load moment in the Bond films. Goldfinger was
about to slice Bond in two with a laser, and Bond says "You expect me
to talk?". Gf replies "no, Mr Bond, I expect you to die." Well I
thought it was funny. Maybe you had to be there.
No, a classic moment - gets shown a lot. And the laser was approaching
B. (who was spread-eagled on a table or board or similar) from the feet
end, so would have started the cut at ...
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I am not a fan of spy-things generally, though Smiley has a certain style.
Oh, so different! Even in those days when I concentrated more, I
couldn't follow those - but enjoyed them anyway.
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Sid Nuncius
2020-11-02 19:51:28 UTC
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Sean Connery.
The best Bond ever.
Quel connerie as they say in France....
Was he any good as an actor?
Yes. As examples, The Man Who Would Be King, The Untouchables and The
Indiana Jones Films spring to mind. He could even make a rather
mediocre film good IMO; I've always thought Outland was a much better
film than most critics do, for instance, largely because of Connery's
presence and performance.
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Vicky Ayech
2020-11-02 21:09:22 UTC
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Sean Connery.
The best Bond ever.
Quel connerie as they say in France....
Was he any good as an actor?
Yes. As examples, The Man Who Would Be King, The Untouchables and The
Indiana Jones Films spring to mind. He could even make a rather
mediocre film good IMO; I've always thought Outland was a much better
film than most critics do, for instance, largely because of Connery's
presence and performance.
I liked him in The RUssia House and The Hunt for Red October. Didn't
like the sound of him as a person though. I think Diane Cilento
divorced him for marital violence.
Peter
2020-11-03 13:59:25 UTC
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Sean Connery.
The best Bond ever.
Quel connerie as they say in France....
Was he any good as an actor?
Yes.  As examples, The Man Who Would Be King, The Untouchables and The
Indiana Jones Films spring to mind.  He could even make a rather
mediocre film good IMO; I've always thought Outland was a much better
film than most critics do, for instance, largely because of Connery's
presence and performance.
There is more than one actor who appears in the kinds of film that I
don't like, who I therefore, but maybe unjustly, have a poor opinion of.
But I am alert to the possibility (!) that they may be good actors.
Clint O'Eastwood, John Wayne and um... someone whose name I've
forgotten, are on the list.
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recognized as one of the villains of this century, in order to
induce him to a negative judgment, he replied: "My situation is
so different from his, that it is not for me to pass judgment".
Ernst Specker on Paul Bernays
Peter
2020-11-03 14:05:33 UTC
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Sean Connery.
The best Bond ever.
Quel connerie as they say in France....
Was he any good as an actor?
Yes.  As examples, The Man Who Would Be King, The Untouchables and The
Indiana Jones Films spring to mind.  He could even make a rather
mediocre film good IMO; I've always thought Outland was a much better
film than most critics do, for instance, largely because of Connery's
presence and performance.
There is more than one actor who appears in the kinds of film that I
don't like, who I therefore, but maybe unjustly, have a poor opinion of.
 But I am alert to the possibility (!) that they may be good actors.
Clint O'Eastwood, John Wayne and
Arnold Schwarzenegger (who I think of as a comedic actor)
Post by Peter
um... someone whose name I've
forgotten, are on the list.
--
When, once, reference was made to a statesman almost universally
recognized as one of the villains of this century, in order to
induce him to a negative judgment, he replied: "My situation is
so different from his, that it is not for me to pass judgment".
Ernst Specker on Paul Bernays
Mike McMillan
2020-11-03 14:22:41 UTC
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Sean Connery.
The best Bond ever.
Quel connerie as they say in France....
Was he any good as an actor?
Yes.  As examples, The Man Who Would Be King, The Untouchables and The
Indiana Jones Films spring to mind.  He could even make a rather
mediocre film good IMO; I've always thought Outland was a much better
film than most critics do, for instance, largely because of Connery's
presence and performance.
There is more than one actor who appears in the kinds of film that I
don't like, who I therefore, but maybe unjustly, have a poor opinion of.
 But I am alert to the possibility (!) that they may be good actors.
Clint O'Eastwood, John Wayne and
Arnold Schwarzenegger (who I think of as a comedic actor)
Post by Peter
um... someone whose name I've
forgotten, are on the list.
Will that James Bond ‘Be Back’ then?
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J. P. Gilliver (John)
2020-11-03 14:30:30 UTC
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There is more than one actor who appears in the kinds of film that I
don't like, who I therefore, but maybe unjustly, have a poor opinion
of.  But I am alert to the possibility (!) that they may be good
actors. Clint O'Eastwood, John Wayne and
Let me guess - you're not too keen on westerns or war films, or more
generally macho ones.

(I quite like Clint, though I'm not that keen on westerns either; I
don't _dis_like Wayne as an actor, though his views as a person are a
long way to the right of even my own.)
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Arnold Schwarzenegger (who I think of as a comedic actor)
I think of him such too - True Lies is IMO great fun; he's not above
gently sending up his own persona. (Again, a bit right of me - "The
Governator" - though I'm not sure how much of that is doing what he's
expected to do rather than himself.)
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Post by Peter
um... someone whose name I've forgotten, are on the list.
You've made me think, to see if there's someone I've dismissed (decided
I don't like) mainly because of the type of films they appear in. I
can't _think_ of anyone - probably because some of those I _do_ dislike
for that sort of reason, I've not seen them in anything else, but I
can't actually name anyone anyway. I suppose Bruce Willis is a name that
wouldn't bring me _to_ a film, but I don't think I've actually seen any
of his films, even the action ones.


It's an interesting question, do we dismiss the work of an artist
because of the lifestyle of the artist - and I don't know the answer for
sure. I _think_ I _don't_ want to do that: dismissing good art because
of a bad (meaning evil, not incompetent) seems to be depriving ourselves
unnecessarily, especially after the death of the creator. (Wagner's
music, the films of ... [actors _or_ producers/directors], the statuary
of ..., and so on - even Hitler's paintings, except I don't think they
were anything special.)
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that the other party is unfit to rule - and both commonly succeed, and are
right. -H.L. Mencken, writer, editor, and critic (1880-1956)
Peter
2020-11-03 15:18:50 UTC
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 There is more than one actor who appears in the kinds of film that I
don't like, who I therefore, but maybe unjustly, have a poor opinion
of.    But I am alert to the possibility (!) that they may be good
actors.  Clint O'Eastwood, John Wayne and
Let me guess - you're not too keen on westerns or war films, or more
generally macho ones.
(I quite like Clint, though I'm not that keen on westerns either; I
don't _dis_like Wayne as an actor, though his views as a person are a
long way to the right of even my own.)
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Arnold Schwarzenegger (who I think of as a comedic actor)
I think of him such too - True Lies is IMO great fun; he's not above
gently sending up his own persona. (Again, a bit right of me - "The
Governator" - though I'm not sure how much of that is doing what he's
expected to do rather than himself.)
Post by Peter
um... someone whose name I've  forgotten, are on the list.
You've made me think, to see if there's someone I've dismissed (decided
I don't like) mainly because of the type of films they appear in. I
can't _think_ of anyone - probably because some of those I _do_ dislike
for that sort of reason, I've not seen them in anything else, but I
can't actually name anyone anyway. I suppose Bruce Willis is a name that
wouldn't bring me _to_ a film, but I don't think I've actually seen any
of his films, even the action ones.
It's an interesting question, do we dismiss the work of an artist
because of the lifestyle of the artist - and I don't know the answer for
sure. I _think_ I _don't_ want to do that: dismissing good art because
of a bad (meaning evil, not incompetent) seems to be depriving ourselves
unnecessarily, especially after the death of the creator. (Wagner's
Only a steaming idiot would dismiss the work of Wagner. I'll start
sympathizing with the jews the moment they give Palestine back to the
Palestinians.
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
music, the films of ... [actors _or_ producers/directors], the statuary
of ..., and so on - even Hitler's paintings, except I don't think they
were anything special.)
--
When, once, reference was made to a statesman almost universally
recognized as one of the villains of this century, in order to
induce him to a negative judgment, he replied: "My situation is
so different from his, that it is not for me to pass judgment".
Ernst Specker on Paul Bernays
Steve Hague
2020-11-03 17:28:20 UTC
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Sean Connery.
The best Bond ever.
Quel connerie as they say in France....
Was he any good as an actor?
Yes.  As examples, The Man Who Would Be King, The Untouchables and
The Indiana Jones Films spring to mind.  He could even make a rather
mediocre film good IMO; I've always thought Outland was a much better
film than most critics do, for instance, largely because of Connery's
presence and performance.
There is more than one actor who appears in the kinds of film that I
don't like, who I therefore, but maybe unjustly, have a poor opinion
of.   But I am alert to the possibility (!) that they may be good
actors. Clint O'Eastwood, John Wayne and
Arnold Schwarzenegger (who I think of as a comedic actor)
Post by Peter
um... someone whose name I've forgotten, are on the list.
Clint Eastwood was good at narrowing his eyes. I rather liked Arnie,
because I had the impression he never took himself too seriously.
Steve
Vicky Ayech
2020-11-03 18:12:34 UTC
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Sean Connery.
The best Bond ever.
Quel connerie as they say in France....
Was he any good as an actor?
Yes.  As examples, The Man Who Would Be King, The Untouchables and The
Indiana Jones Films spring to mind.  He could even make a rather
mediocre film good IMO; I've always thought Outland was a much better
film than most critics do, for instance, largely because of Connery's
presence and performance.
There is more than one actor who appears in the kinds of film that I
don't like, who I therefore, but maybe unjustly, have a poor opinion of.
But I am alert to the possibility (!) that they may be good actors.
Clint O'Eastwood, John Wayne and um... someone whose name I've
forgotten, are on the list.
Do you mean you don't like Clint Eastwood as he is in Western? Try
Play Misty For Me.
Mike McMillan
2020-11-03 18:16:09 UTC
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Sean Connery.
The best Bond ever.
Quel connerie as they say in France....
Was he any good as an actor?
Yes.  As examples, The Man Who Would Be King, The Untouchables and The
Indiana Jones Films spring to mind.  He could even make a rather
mediocre film good IMO; I've always thought Outland was a much better
film than most critics do, for instance, largely because of Connery's
presence and performance.
There is more than one actor who appears in the kinds of film that I
don't like, who I therefore, but maybe unjustly, have a poor opinion of.
But I am alert to the possibility (!) that they may be good actors.
Clint O'Eastwood, John Wayne and um... someone whose name I've
forgotten, are on the list.
Do you mean you don't like Clint Eastwood as he is in Western? Try
Play Misty For Me.
‘You played it for her...’ Oh Sorry! Wrong thread!
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Steve Hague
2020-11-03 18:45:36 UTC
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Sean Connery.
The best Bond ever.
Quel connerie as they say in France....
Was he any good as an actor?
Yes.  As examples, The Man Who Would Be King, The Untouchables and The
Indiana Jones Films spring to mind.  He could even make a rather
mediocre film good IMO; I've always thought Outland was a much better
film than most critics do, for instance, largely because of Connery's
presence and performance.
There is more than one actor who appears in the kinds of film that I
don't like, who I therefore, but maybe unjustly, have a poor opinion of.
But I am alert to the possibility (!) that they may be good actors.
Clint O'Eastwood, John Wayne and um... someone whose name I've
forgotten, are on the list.
Do you mean you don't like Clint Eastwood as he is in Western? Try
Play Misty For Me.
You hum it, I'll play it.

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