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Jenny M Benson
2019-09-17 09:24:46 UTC
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I opened the Win 10 menu, intending to scroll down to find an item quite
a way down and accidentally did something which caused a little alphabet
display to pop up. Click on a letter and zoom straight to the part of
the menu you want. How handy! It's always annoyed me having to scroll
right down the menu.

Trouble was, I didn't know what I'd done! Messed about with it and
eventually discovered it was left-clicking on the space between sections
(ie where it says A or B or ...) Fancy that!

Now I suppose you will all tell me you've always known about that. How
come I'm always the last to know?
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Jenny M Benson
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2019-09-17 09:33:41 UTC
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I opened the Win 10 menu, intending to scroll down to find an item
quite a way down and accidentally did something which caused a little
alphabet display to pop up. Click on a letter and zoom straight to the
part of the menu you want. How handy! It's always annoyed me having
to scroll right down the menu.
Trouble was, I didn't know what I'd done! Messed about with it and
eventually discovered it was left-clicking on the space between
sections (ie where it says A or B or ...) Fancy that!
Now I suppose you will all tell me you've always known about that. How
come I'm always the last to know?
This is the sort of thing that used to be in the manual you got with
Windows. They stopped producing them because they found that only a tiny
proportion of users ever looked at them much. I think there was a brief
time when they (MS) still produced them but _sold_ them, then we're down
to all the privately-produced books: of the one or two I've looked at,
the "for dummies" series are good (and I like the humour of one of their
authors - Gooking I think his name), but there are plenty of others. And
of course the numerous websites of the "xx things you didn't know were
in Windows" variety, or that list keyboard shortcuts - but I agree, you
never know whether they've _found_ all the shortcuts, tricks, etcetera.

(A couple: I always open Explorer with the Windows key plus E; and the
autoarrange column width, in Explorer and some other prog.s, is Alt plus
the numeric pad's + key.)
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Penny
2019-09-17 11:53:36 UTC
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On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 10:33:41 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
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Post by Jenny M Benson
I opened the Win 10 menu, intending to scroll down to find an item
quite a way down and accidentally did something which caused a little
alphabet display to pop up. Click on a letter and zoom straight to the
part of the menu you want. How handy! It's always annoyed me having
to scroll right down the menu.
Trouble was, I didn't know what I'd done! Messed about with it and
eventually discovered it was left-clicking on the space between
sections (ie where it says A or B or ...) Fancy that!
Now I suppose you will all tell me you've always known about that. How
come I'm always the last to know?
I think I've only used that list twice since I started using W10. I mostly
use shortcuts pinned to the task bar.
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
This is the sort of thing that used to be in the manual you got with
Windows. They stopped producing them because they found that only a tiny
proportion of users ever looked at them much.
I don't think I've ever seen a Windows manual.

The first proper computer I used (OS was CPM) came pre-loaded with software
from various sources. There were two sets of manuals, one set written by
the developer(s), the other by a user - much more useful. They also came
with shortcut cards. I mostly used the short cut cards and occasionally
looked stuff up in the user-written manual. This was in the days before
mice.

Many of those keyboard short-cuts have stood me in good stead, having been
adopted into Windows but it continues to surprise me how few users seem
aware of them - they used to appear on the right-click and drop-down menus
but I notice less of this these days.

Later, when learning Word Perfect, I used the manual extensively and also
relied upon the functions card which sat above the F keys on the keyboard.
In fact I've been known to make my own for programs which make good use of
the keyboard. I guess, with the move to touch screens and on-screen
keyboards, these are very few and far between now.
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J. P. Gilliver (John)
2019-09-17 12:36:14 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
This is the sort of thing that used to be in the manual you got with
Windows. They stopped producing them because they found that only a tiny
proportion of users ever looked at them much.
I don't think I've ever seen a Windows manual.
I don't think they came with Windows 95 or anything later.
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Post by Penny
Many of those keyboard short-cuts have stood me in good stead, having been
adopted into Windows but it continues to surprise me how few users seem
Indeed. Especially if you're doing something where your hands are mostly
on the keyboard anyway (certainly word processing, some other things too
- spreadsheets to some extent), keyboard shortcuts are so much quicker.
(And often more accurate.)
Post by Penny
aware of them - they used to appear on the right-click and drop-down menus
but I notice less of this these days.
Sometimes a word in a menu has an underlined letter, so you can still
get to them with two key combinations (Alt plus one to open the menu,
then the letter).

Another one I've just remembered is the alt-space menu: not a lot of
people know that's there, but it has been since Windows 3.x. It _may_ be
something to do with being left-handed, but I often close with alt-space
c rather than alt-F4 or mouse-on-X, as well as maximise and restore thus
Post by Penny
Later, when learning Word Perfect, I used the manual extensively and also
relied upon the functions card which sat above the F keys on the keyboard.
In fact I've been known to make my own for programs which make good use of
the keyboard. I guess, with the move to touch screens and on-screen
keyboards, these are very few and far between now.
Hmm, I wonder if IrfanView would benefit? Though a quick look suggests
not really. Though it reminds me of F2 for rename, which works in lots
of things (including Explorer).
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Penny
2019-09-17 22:24:18 UTC
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Hmm, I wonder if IrfanView would benefit? Though a quick look suggests
not really. Though it reminds me of F2 for rename, which works in lots
of things (including Explorer).
Keyboard shortcuts are certainly helpful there but a mouse is also
essential so... I don't think I've ever used Function keys in it though.
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J. P. Gilliver (John)
2019-09-17 23:06:35 UTC
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On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 13:36:14 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
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Hmm, I wonder if IrfanView would benefit? Though a quick look suggests
not really. Though it reminds me of F2 for rename, which works in lots
of things (including Explorer).
Keyboard shortcuts are certainly helpful there but a mouse is also
essential so... I don't think I've ever used Function keys in it though.
From memory, F2 is very useful for rename, and F12 to toggle the
paint-style toolbox. F7 and F8 to move and copy are also useful, as they
can remember about 14 places each.
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Chris McMillan
2019-09-17 18:01:58 UTC
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On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 10:33:41 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
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Post by Jenny M Benson
I opened the Win 10 menu, intending to scroll down to find an item
quite a way down and accidentally did something which caused a little
alphabet display to pop up. Click on a letter and zoom straight to the
part of the menu you want. How handy! It's always annoyed me having
to scroll right down the menu.
Trouble was, I didn't know what I'd done! Messed about with it and
eventually discovered it was left-clicking on the space between
sections (ie where it says A or B or ...) Fancy that!
Now I suppose you will all tell me you've always known about that. How
come I'm always the last to know?
I think I've only used that list twice since I started using W10. I mostly
use shortcuts pinned to the task bar.
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
This is the sort of thing that used to be in the manual you got with
Windows. They stopped producing them because they found that only a tiny
proportion of users ever looked at them much.
I don't think I've ever seen a Windows manual.
The first proper computer I used (OS was CPM) came pre-loaded with software
from various sources. There were two sets of manuals, one set written by
the developer(s), the other by a user - much more useful. They also came
with shortcut cards. I mostly used the short cut cards and occasionally
looked stuff up in the user-written manual. This was in the days before
mice.
Many of those keyboard short-cuts have stood me in good stead, having been
adopted into Windows but it continues to surprise me how few users seem
aware of them - they used to appear on the right-click and drop-down menus
but I notice less of this these days.
Later, when learning Word Perfect, I used the manual extensively and also
relied upon the functions card which sat above the F keys on the keyboard.
In fact I've been known to make my own for programs which make good use of
the keyboard. I guess, with the move to touch screens and on-screen
keyboards, these are very few and far between now.
Blind people who don’t use mice will use key short cuts. I’m not one of
them. Or at least I use one or two only.

Sincerely Chris
Paul Herber
2019-09-17 09:34:58 UTC
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Post by Jenny M Benson
I opened the Win 10 menu, intending to scroll down to find an item quite
a way down and accidentally did something which caused a little alphabet
display to pop up. Click on a letter and zoom straight to the part of
the menu you want. How handy! It's always annoyed me having to scroll
right down the menu.
Trouble was, I didn't know what I'd done! Messed about with it and
eventually discovered it was left-clicking on the space between sections
(ie where it says A or B or ...) Fancy that!
Now I suppose you will all tell me you've always known about that. How
come I'm always the last to know?
I never knew that, so just started messing around in that start window, and found the
following:
the sections of useless news and other carp (Life at a glance, Play and Explore, etc) can
be removed by right-clicking in each top right-hand corner and unpinning each section. All
gone - result!
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Paul Herber
2019-09-17 09:54:46 UTC
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Post by Jenny M Benson
I opened the Win 10 menu, intending to scroll down to find an item quite
a way down and accidentally did something which caused a little alphabet
display to pop up. Click on a letter and zoom straight to the part of
the menu you want. How handy! It's always annoyed me having to scroll
right down the menu.
Trouble was, I didn't know what I'd done! Messed about with it and
eventually discovered it was left-clicking on the space between sections
(ie where it says A or B or ...) Fancy that!
Now I suppose you will all tell me you've always known about that. How
come I'm always the last to know?
I never knew that, so just started messing around in that start window, and found the
the sections of useless news and other carp (Life at a glance, Play and Explore, etc) can
be removed by right-clicking in each top right-hand corner and unpinning each section. All
gone - result!
But now I can't get that to work on the laptop! Sulk.
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http://www.paulherber.co.uk/
Anne B
2019-09-29 11:21:52 UTC
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Post by Jenny M Benson
I opened the Win 10 menu, intending to scroll down to find an item quite
a way down and accidentally did something which caused a little alphabet
display to pop up. Click on a letter and zoom straight to the part of
the menu you want. How handy! It's always annoyed me having to scroll
right down the menu.
Trouble was, I didn't know what I'd done! Messed about with it and
eventually discovered it was left-clicking on the space between sections
(ie where it says A or B or ...) Fancy that!
Now I suppose you will all tell me you've always known about that. How
come I'm always the last to know?
I never knew that, so just started messing around in that start window, and found the
the sections of useless news and other carp (Life at a glance, Play and Explore, etc) can
be removed by right-clicking in each top right-hand corner and unpinning each section. All
gone - result!
I tried that, and discovered that I must have known about them before,
because none of those bits of cr*p is still there, so I must already
have unpinned them and forgotten about it.

Anne B

Flop
2019-09-17 12:39:40 UTC
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I opened the Win 10 menu, intending to scroll down to find an item quite
a way down and accidentally did something which caused a little alphabet
display to pop up.  Click on a letter and zoom straight to the part of
the menu you want.  How handy!  It's always annoyed me having to scroll
right down the menu.
Trouble was, I didn't know what I'd done!  Messed about with it and
eventually discovered it was left-clicking on the space between sections
(ie where it says A or B or ...)  Fancy that!
Now I suppose you will all tell me you've always known about that.  How
come I'm always the last to know?
I found a couple of useful shortcuts.
So I looked for, and found, more.
Then I tried to find all of them.
Then I couldn't remember any of them.
:-(
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Truly the Good Lord gave us computers that we might learn patience
BrritSki
2019-09-17 13:13:19 UTC
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Post by Jenny M Benson
I opened the Win 10 menu, intending to scroll down to find an item
quite a way down and accidentally did something which caused a little
alphabet display to pop up.  Click on a letter and zoom straight to
the part of the menu you want.  How handy!  It's always annoyed me
having to scroll right down the menu.
Trouble was, I didn't know what I'd done!  Messed about with it and
eventually discovered it was left-clicking on the space between
sections (ie where it says A or B or ...)  Fancy that!
Now I suppose you will all tell me you've always known about that.
How come I'm always the last to know?
I found a couple of useful shortcuts.
So I looked for, and found, more.
Then I tried to find all of them.
Then I couldn't remember any of them.
:-(
Today we have naming of shortcuts. Yesterday,
We had daily cache cleaning. And tomorrow morning,
We shall have what to do after firing up Word. But to-day,
Today we have naming of shortcuts. Japonica
Glistens like coral in all of the neighbouring gardens,
And today we have naming of shortcuts.

This is the right-click popup. And this
Is the left-click popup, whose use you will see,
When you are given your mice. And this is the scrolling wheel,
Which in your case you have not got. The branches
Hold in the gardens their silent, eloquent gestures,
Which in our case we have not got.

Cont. stanza 94
Jenny M Benson
2019-09-17 13:50:08 UTC
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Today we have naming of shortcuts. Yesterday,
We had daily cache cleaning. And tomorrow morning,
We shall have what to do after firing up Word. But to-day,
Today we have naming of shortcuts. Japonica
Glistens like coral in all of the neighbouring gardens,
And today we have naming of shortcuts.
This is the right-click popup. And this
Is the left-click popup, whose use you will see,
When you are given your mice. And this is the scrolling wheel,
Which in your case you have not got. The branches
Hold in the gardens their silent, eloquent gestures,
Which in our case we have not got.
Cont. stanza 94
Fecking brilliant, Brritters!
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Jenny M Benson
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2019-09-17 15:15:54 UTC
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Post by BrritSki
Today we have naming of shortcuts. Yesterday,
We had daily cache cleaning. And tomorrow morning,
We shall have what to do after firing up Word. But to-day,
Today we have naming of shortcuts. Japonica
Glistens like coral in all of the neighbouring gardens,
And today we have naming of shortcuts.
This is the right-click popup. And this
Is the left-click popup, whose use you will see,
When you are given your mice. And this is the scrolling wheel,
Which in your case you have not got. The branches
Hold in the gardens their silent, eloquent gestures,
Which in our case we have not got.
Cont. stanza 94
Fecking brilliant, Brritters!
Yes, BUMRA!
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J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)***@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

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Nick Odell
2019-09-17 15:58:05 UTC
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Post by BrritSki
Today we have naming of shortcuts. Yesterday,
We had daily cache cleaning. And tomorrow morning,
We shall have what to do after firing up Word. But to-day,
Today we have naming of shortcuts. Japonica
Glistens like coral in all of the neighbouring gardens,
And today we have naming of shortcuts.
This is the right-click popup. And this
Is the left-click popup, whose use you will see,
When you are given your mice. And this is the scrolling wheel,
Which in your case you have not got. The branches
Hold in the gardens their silent, eloquent gestures,
Which in our case we have not got.
Cont. stanza 94
Fecking brilliant, Brritters!
Wot she sed.

Nick
Sid Nuncius
2019-09-17 18:12:35 UTC
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I found a couple of useful shortcuts.
So I looked for, and found, more.
Then I tried to find all of them.
Then I couldn't remember any of them.
:-(
Today we have naming of shortcuts. Yesterday,
We had daily cache cleaning. And tomorrow morning,
We shall have what to do after firing up Word. But to-day,
Today we have naming of shortcuts. Japonica
Glistens like coral in all of the neighbouring gardens,
And today we have naming of shortcuts.
This is the right-click popup. And this
Is the left-click popup, whose use you will see,
When you are given your mice. And this is the scrolling wheel,
Which in your case you have not got. The branches
Hold in the gardens their silent, eloquent gestures,
Which in our case we have not got.
Outstanding work! Well done that umrat!
--
Sid (Make sure Matron is away when you reply)
Peter Percival
2019-09-17 19:49:03 UTC
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Post by Jenny M Benson
I opened the Win 10 menu, intending to scroll down to find an item
quite a way down and accidentally did something which caused a little
alphabet display to pop up.  Click on a letter and zoom straight to
the part of the menu you want.  How handy!  It's always annoyed me
having to scroll right down the menu.
Trouble was, I didn't know what I'd done!  Messed about with it and
eventually discovered it was left-clicking on the space between
sections (ie where it says A or B or ...)  Fancy that!
Now I suppose you will all tell me you've always known about that.
How come I'm always the last to know?
I found a couple of useful shortcuts.
So I looked for, and found, more.
Then I tried to find all of them.
Then I couldn't remember any of them.
:-(
Today we have naming of shortcuts. Yesterday,
We had daily cache cleaning. And tomorrow morning,
We shall have what to do after firing up Word. But to-day,
Today we have naming of shortcuts. Japonica
Glistens like coral in all of the neighbouring gardens,
And today we have naming of shortcuts.
This is the right-click popup. And this
Is the left-click popup, whose use you will see,
When you are given your mice. And this is the scrolling wheel,
Which in your case you have not got. The branches
Hold in the gardens their silent, eloquent gestures,
Which in our case we have not got.
Cont. stanza 94
I once met Henry Reed.
Mike
2019-09-18 07:20:30 UTC
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Post by Jenny M Benson
I opened the Win 10 menu, intending to scroll down to find an item
quite a way down and accidentally did something which caused a little
alphabet display to pop up.  Click on a letter and zoom straight to
the part of the menu you want.  How handy!  It's always annoyed me
having to scroll right down the menu.
Trouble was, I didn't know what I'd done!  Messed about with it and
eventually discovered it was left-clicking on the space between
sections (ie where it says A or B or ...)  Fancy that!
Now I suppose you will all tell me you've always known about that.
How come I'm always the last to know?
I found a couple of useful shortcuts.
So I looked for, and found, more.
Then I tried to find all of them.
Then I couldn't remember any of them.
:-(
Today we have naming of shortcuts. Yesterday,
We had daily cache cleaning. And tomorrow morning,
We shall have what to do after firing up Word. But to-day,
Today we have naming of shortcuts. Japonica
Glistens like coral in all of the neighbouring gardens,
And today we have naming of shortcuts.
This is the right-click popup. And this
Is the left-click popup, whose use you will see,
When you are given your mice. And this is the scrolling wheel,
Which in your case you have not got. The branches
Hold in the gardens their silent, eloquent gestures,
Which in our case we have not got.
Cont. stanza 94
I once met Henry Reed.
Did Henry Reed know your father?
--
Toodle Pip
Peter Percival
2019-09-19 20:25:12 UTC
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I opened the Win 10 menu, intending to scroll down to find an item
quite a way down and accidentally did something which caused a little
alphabet display to pop up.  Click on a letter and zoom straight to
the part of the menu you want.  How handy!  It's always annoyed me
having to scroll right down the menu.
Trouble was, I didn't know what I'd done!  Messed about with it and
eventually discovered it was left-clicking on the space between
sections (ie where it says A or B or ...)  Fancy that!
Now I suppose you will all tell me you've always known about that.
How come I'm always the last to know?
I found a couple of useful shortcuts.
So I looked for, and found, more.
Then I tried to find all of them.
Then I couldn't remember any of them.
:-(
Today we have naming of shortcuts. Yesterday,
We had daily cache cleaning. And tomorrow morning,
We shall have what to do after firing up Word. But to-day,
Today we have naming of shortcuts. Japonica
Glistens like coral in all of the neighbouring gardens,
And today we have naming of shortcuts.
This is the right-click popup. And this
Is the left-click popup, whose use you will see,
When you are given your mice. And this is the scrolling wheel,
Which in your case you have not got. The branches
Hold in the gardens their silent, eloquent gestures,
Which in our case we have not got.
Cont. stanza 94
I once met Henry Reed.
Did Henry Reed know your father?
No, nor did Lloyd George.

I met him in the early 70's. Dad died in '67. He talked about Louis
MacNeice whom he had known.
Penny
2019-09-17 22:26:31 UTC
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Post by Jenny M Benson
I opened the Win 10 menu, intending to scroll down to find an item
quite a way down and accidentally did something which caused a little
alphabet display to pop up.  Click on a letter and zoom straight to
the part of the menu you want.  How handy!  It's always annoyed me
having to scroll right down the menu.
Trouble was, I didn't know what I'd done!  Messed about with it and
eventually discovered it was left-clicking on the space between
sections (ie where it says A or B or ...)  Fancy that!
Now I suppose you will all tell me you've always known about that.
How come I'm always the last to know?
I found a couple of useful shortcuts.
So I looked for, and found, more.
Then I tried to find all of them.
Then I couldn't remember any of them.
:-(
Today we have naming of shortcuts. Yesterday,
We had daily cache cleaning. And tomorrow morning,
We shall have what to do after firing up Word. But to-day,
Today we have naming of shortcuts. Japonica
Glistens like coral in all of the neighbouring gardens,
And today we have naming of shortcuts.
This is the right-click popup. And this
Is the left-click popup, whose use you will see,
When you are given your mice. And this is the scrolling wheel,
Which in your case you have not got. The branches
Hold in the gardens their silent, eloquent gestures,
Which in our case we have not got.
Cont. stanza 94
Lovely stuff!
I think for eloquent gestures you need Opera though.
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959
Clive Arthur
2019-09-17 16:56:00 UTC
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Hing is Asafoetida. Not a lot of people know that. I didn't.

Cheers
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Clive
Mike
2019-09-17 17:22:55 UTC
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Hing is Asafoetida. Not a lot of people know that. I didn't.
Cheers
A hing like that is enough to sap one’s energy and enthusiasm totally.
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Toodle Pip
Mike
2019-09-17 17:24:01 UTC
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Hing is Asafoetida. Not a lot of people know that. I didn't.
Cheers
A hing like that is enough to sap one’s energy and enthusiasm totally.
And anyway, will it be sufficient to blow the bloody doors off?
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Toodle Pip
Peter Percival
2019-09-17 19:49:40 UTC
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Hing is Asafoetida.  Not a lot of people know that.  I didn't.
Are those the ones we have to keep flying?
Cheers
John Ashby
2019-09-17 21:28:38 UTC
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Hing is Asafoetida.  Not a lot of people know that.  I didn't.
Are those the ones we have to keep flying?
Cheers
You're getting confused with Cleopatra's asp disaster.

john
Paul Herber
2019-09-18 15:57:03 UTC
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Hing is Asafoetida.  Not a lot of people know that.  I didn't.
Are those the ones we have to keep flying?
Cheers
You're getting confused with Cleopatra's asp disaster.
Were Active Server Pages first developed in ancient Egyptian times?
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Regards, Paul Herber
http://www.paulherber.co.uk/
Jim Easterbrook
2019-09-18 16:37:33 UTC
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Hing is Asafoetida.  Not a lot of people know that.  I didn't.
Are those the ones we have to keep flying?
Cheers
You're getting confused with Cleopatra's asp disaster.
Were Active Server Pages first developed in ancient Egyptian times?
They were called slaves then, and much more likely to be Jews than WASPs.
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Mike
2019-09-18 16:39:18 UTC
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Post by John Ashby
Post by Peter Percival
Hing is Asafoetida.  Not a lot of people know that.  I didn't.
Are those the ones we have to keep flying?
Cheers
You're getting confused with Cleopatra's asp disaster.
Were Active Server Pages first developed in ancient Egyptian times?
Did the unions insist on needle time even then?
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Joe Kerr
2019-09-17 22:24:22 UTC
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Hing is Asafoetida.  Not a lot of people know that.  I didn't.
Are those the ones we have to keep flying?
I wouldn't do that. Their cabin crew are terrible.
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Steve Hague
2019-09-19 09:43:43 UTC
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Post by Jenny M Benson
I opened the Win 10 menu, intending to scroll down to find an item quite
a way down and accidentally did something which caused a little alphabet
display to pop up.  Click on a letter and zoom straight to the part of
the menu you want.  How handy!  It's always annoyed me having to scroll
right down the menu.
Trouble was, I didn't know what I'd done!  Messed about with it and
eventually discovered it was left-clicking on the space between sections
(ie where it says A or B or ...)  Fancy that!
Now I suppose you will all tell me you've always known about that.  How
come I'm always the last to know?
What was that tip about using emojis in email? It was stored in the
brain cells I've lost over the past few months.
Steve
BrritSki
2019-09-19 12:48:22 UTC
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Post by Jenny M Benson
I opened the Win 10 menu, intending to scroll down to find an item
quite a way down and accidentally did something which caused a little
alphabet display to pop up.  Click on a letter and zoom straight to
the part of the menu you want.  How handy!  It's always annoyed me
having to scroll right down the menu.
Trouble was, I didn't know what I'd done!  Messed about with it and
eventually discovered it was left-clicking on the space between
sections (ie where it says A or B or ...)  Fancy that!
Now I suppose you will all tell me you've always known about that.
How come I'm always the last to know?
What was that tip about using emojis in email? It was stored in the
brain cells I've lost over the past few months.
Steve
Possibly to use character based emojis eg: ;) :) :/
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2019-09-19 17:24:31 UTC
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Post by Steve Hague
What was that tip about using emojis in email? It was stored in the
brain cells I've lost over the past few months.
Steve
Possibly to use character based emojis eg: ;) :) :/
There was a scandal a few months (so probably years) about some mobile
network substituting little images for emojis, with the result that
those receiving messages containing them when on an expensive tariff
(such as abroad) got a nasty surprise at bill-time.

Probably diluted now as prices have fallen and/or abroad is cheaper, or
because the company involved stopped doing it after the adverse
publicity.

If you want to emoje (?) but avoid any chance of such substitution, do
left-handed emojis; AFAIK, none of the automatic substitution mechanisms
know about those.
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Tony Smith Gloucestershire
2019-09-19 19:26:43 UTC
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On Thursday, 19 September 2019 18:26:39 UTC+1, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
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Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
If you want to emoje (?) but avoid any chance of such substitution, do
left-handed emojis; AFAIK, none of the automatic substitution mechanisms
know about those.
What are left-handed emojis? They sound a bit sinister.
Mike
2019-09-19 19:38:51 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
If you want to emoje (?) but avoid any chance of such substitution, do
left-handed emojis; AFAIK, none of the automatic substitution mechanisms
know about those.
What are left-handed emojis? They sound a bit sinister.
Some people would give their right hand to know that!
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Nick Odell
2019-09-19 14:18:13 UTC
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Post by Steve Hague
Post by Jenny M Benson
I opened the Win 10 menu, intending to scroll down to find an item
quite a way down and accidentally did something which caused a little
alphabet display to pop up.  Click on a letter and zoom straight to
the part of the menu you want.  How handy!  It's always annoyed me
having to scroll right down the menu.
Trouble was, I didn't know what I'd done!  Messed about with it and
eventually discovered it was left-clicking on the space between
sections (ie where it says A or B or ...)  Fancy that!
Now I suppose you will all tell me you've always known about that.
How come I'm always the last to know?
What was that tip about using emojis in email? It was stored in the
brain cells I've lost over the past few months.
Emojis? Puh-leeze. I think your missing brain cells have been doing you
a favour.

Nick
Mike
2019-09-19 14:23:24 UTC
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Post by Steve Hague
Post by Jenny M Benson
I opened the Win 10 menu, intending to scroll down to find an item
quite a way down and accidentally did something which caused a little
alphabet display to pop up.  Click on a letter and zoom straight to
the part of the menu you want.  How handy!  It's always annoyed me
having to scroll right down the menu.
Trouble was, I didn't know what I'd done!  Messed about with it and
eventually discovered it was left-clicking on the space between
sections (ie where it says A or B or ...)  Fancy that!
Now I suppose you will all tell me you've always known about that.
How come I'm always the last to know?
What was that tip about using emojis in email? It was stored in the
brain cells I've lost over the past few months.
Emojis? Puh-leeze. I think your missing brain cells have been doing you
a favour.
Nick
😊😳😉😋😀😴😂☹️🤣😁😅😌😝🙂
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Nick Odell
2019-09-19 14:42:19 UTC
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Post by Nick Odell
Post by Steve Hague
Post by Jenny M Benson
I opened the Win 10 menu, intending to scroll down to find an item
quite a way down and accidentally did something which caused a little
alphabet display to pop up.  Click on a letter and zoom straight to
the part of the menu you want.  How handy!  It's always annoyed me
having to scroll right down the menu.
Trouble was, I didn't know what I'd done!  Messed about with it and
eventually discovered it was left-clicking on the space between
sections (ie where it says A or B or ...)  Fancy that!
Now I suppose you will all tell me you've always known about that.
How come I'm always the last to know?
What was that tip about using emojis in email? It was stored in the
brain cells I've lost over the past few months.
Emojis? Puh-leeze. I think your missing brain cells have been doing you
a favour.
Nick
😊😳😉😋😀😴😂☹️🤣😁😅😌😝🙂
What's the emoji for AAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaargh!!!!!!!!!! ?


Nick
Mike
2019-09-19 14:50:49 UTC
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Post by Jenny M Benson
I opened the Win 10 menu, intending to scroll down to find an item
quite a way down and accidentally did something which caused a little
alphabet display to pop up.  Click on a letter and zoom straight to
the part of the menu you want.  How handy!  It's always annoyed me
having to scroll right down the menu.
Trouble was, I didn't know what I'd done!  Messed about with it and
eventually discovered it was left-clicking on the space between
sections (ie where it says A or B or ...)  Fancy that!
Now I suppose you will all tell me you've always known about that.
How come I'm always the last to know?
What was that tip about using emojis in email? It was stored in the
brain cells I've lost over the past few months.
Emojis? Puh-leeze. I think your missing brain cells have been doing you
a favour.
Nick
😊😳😉😋😀😴😂☹️🤣😁😅😌😝🙂
What's the emoji for AAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaargh!!!!!!!!!! ?
Nick
😫 maybe?
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Jenny M Benson
2019-09-19 20:10:44 UTC
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What was that tip about using emojis in email?
When did emoticons stop being emoticons and stasrt being emojis? Or are
they NOT the same thing, as I've always thought they were. And if they
aren't, what's the difference?
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Penny
2019-09-19 21:53:47 UTC
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Post by Jenny M Benson
Post by Steve Hague
What was that tip about using emojis in email?
When did emoticons stop being emoticons and stasrt being emojis? Or are
they NOT the same thing, as I've always thought they were. And if they
aren't, what's the difference?
ICBAM but I think :) :D and :( are emoticons (even when rendered as little
yellow faces).
Whereas tiny pics of aubergines and Christmas trees are emojis (and I don't
know what they mean).
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Joe Kerr
2019-09-19 22:57:36 UTC
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scrawled in the dust...
Post by Jenny M Benson
Post by Steve Hague
What was that tip about using emojis in email?
When did emoticons stop being emoticons and stasrt being emojis? Or are
they NOT the same thing, as I've always thought they were. And if they
aren't, what's the difference?
ICBAM but I think :) :D and :( are emoticons (even when rendered as little
yellow faces).
Whereas tiny pics of aubergines and Christmas trees are emojis (and I don't
know what they mean).
I think it means you are pleased to see Christmas.
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Mike
2019-09-20 07:42:58 UTC
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Post by Penny
scrawled in the dust...
Post by Jenny M Benson
Post by Steve Hague
What was that tip about using emojis in email?
When did emoticons stop being emoticons and stasrt being emojis? Or are
they NOT the same thing, as I've always thought they were. And if they
aren't, what's the difference?
ICBAM but I think :) :D and :( are emoticons (even when rendered as little
yellow faces).
Whereas tiny pics of aubergines and Christmas trees are emojis (and I don't
know what they mean).
I think it means you are pleased to see Christmas.
;-))). /:
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Tony Smith Gloucestershire
2019-09-20 09:43:53 UTC
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Is the -ji in emoji the same as in kanji? Something to do with "character"?
Penny
2019-09-20 10:10:02 UTC
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Post by Tony Smith Gloucestershire
Is the -ji in emoji the same as in kanji? Something to do with "character"?
Sounds plausible, in which case emoji and emoticon mean precisely the same
thing with different etymologies.
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Sid Nuncius
2019-09-20 05:32:40 UTC
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What was that tip about using emojis in email? It was stored in the
brain cells I've lost over the past few months.
Press the Windows key and . (full stop) simultaneously. An emoji window
pops up from which you can select and paste. 👌
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J. P. Gilliver (John)
2019-09-20 10:02:15 UTC
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What was that tip about using emojis in email? It was stored in the
brain cells I've lost over the past few months.
Press the Windows key and . (full stop) simultaneously. An emoji
window pops up from which you can select and paste. 0 >
In what version of Windows and email prog.? (Certainly doesn't in
Windows 7 and Turnpike!)
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Jenny M Benson
2019-09-20 10:33:59 UTC
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Press the Windows key and . (full stop) simultaneously.  An emoji
window pops up from which you can select and paste. 0 >
In what version of Windows and email prog.? (Certainly doesn't in
Windows 7 and Turnpike!)
?
Was there even a Windows key as long ago as Win 7?
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J. P. Gilliver (John)
2019-09-20 20:14:20 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Press the Windows key and . (full stop) simultaneously.  An emoji
window pops up from which you can select and paste. 0 >
In what version of Windows and email prog.? (Certainly doesn't in
Windows 7 and Turnpike!)
?
Was there even a Windows key as long ago as Win 7?
I think the Windows key came in with Windows 95.
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Steve Hague
2019-09-20 11:02:45 UTC
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Post by Steve Hague
What was that tip about using emojis in email? It was stored in the
brain cells I've lost over the past few months.
Press the Windows key and . (full stop) simultaneously.  An emoji window
pops up from which you can select and paste. 👌
Thanks Sid, I knew that if I hung around for long enough I would get an
answer to my question.👍
Steve
BrritSki
2019-09-20 12:22:54 UTC
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Post by Steve Hague
What was that tip about using emojis in email? It was stored in the
brain cells I've lost over the past few months.
Press the Windows key and . (full stop) simultaneously.  An emoji
window pops up from which you can select and paste. 👌
Thanks Sid, I knew that if I hung around for long enough I would get an
answer to my question.👍
Oi ! I gave you an answer... just nit the one you wanted !
Mike
2019-09-20 12:35:19 UTC
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Post by Steve Hague
Post by Steve Hague
What was that tip about using emojis in email? It was stored in the
brain cells I've lost over the past few months.
Press the Windows key and . (full stop) simultaneously.  An emoji
window pops up from which you can select and paste. 👌
Thanks Sid, I knew that if I hung around for long enough I would get an
answer to my question.👍
Oi ! I gave you an answer... just nit the one you wanted !
Plain or Purl?
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Nick Odell
2019-09-19 14:16:48 UTC
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Post by Jenny M Benson
I opened the Win 10 menu, intending to scroll down to find an item quite
a way down and accidentally did something which caused a little alphabet
display to pop up.  Click on a letter and zoom straight to the part of
the menu you want.  How handy!  It's always annoyed me having to scroll
right down the menu.
Trouble was, I didn't know what I'd done!  Messed about with it and
eventually discovered it was left-clicking on the space between sections
(ie where it says A or B or ...)  Fancy that!
Now I suppose you will all tell me you've always known about that.  How
come I'm always the last to know?
Win 10's gone crazy
The mouse's gone mad
Now umra's the only sane thing that I have
Always the last to know

Nick
Well. if I've got stuck with the earworm, so can the rest of you - so there.
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