eveloping scandal in community health services, where following a “a geriatric assessment”, some older people are discovering that DNR notices are being placed on their NHS records on grounds of “frailty”.

[Vicky Ayech]

We covered the widespread use of DNR (Do Not Resuscitate) Notices in
care homes during the first wave of the pandemic. In recent articles,
the Daily Mail has exposed a developing scandal in community health
services, where following a “a geriatric assessment”, some older
people are discovering that DNR notices are being placed on their NHS
records on grounds of “frailty”.

A new breed of “frailty nurse practitioners” are conducting these
assessments of older people living in their own homes. According to
the Mail, the Care Quality Commission is urgently investigating these
practices, but if you know of someone who has had such a geriatric
assessment it would be wise to suggest they inspect their NHS record.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9052831/How-dare-NHS-throw-scrapheap.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8995229/Elderly-patients-given-Not-Resuscitate-orders-against-families-wishes.html

[krw]

Post by Vicky Ayech
We covered the widespread use of DNR (Do Not Resuscitate) Notices in
care homes during the first wave of the pandemic. In recent articles,
the Daily Mail has exposed a developing scandal in community health
services, where following a “a geriatric assessment”, some older
people are discovering that DNR notices are being placed on their NHS
records on grounds of “frailty”.
A new breed of “frailty nurse practitioners” are conducting these
assessments of older people living in their own homes. According to
the Mail, the Care Quality Commission is urgently investigating these
practices, but if you know of someone who has had such a geriatric
assessment it would be wise to suggest they inspect their NHS record.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9052831/How-dare-NHS-throw-scrapheap.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8995229/Elderly-patients-given-Not-Resuscitate-orders-against-families-wishes.html

We live in a backward part of the universe around here. Today the wofe
was offered a flu jab. Next door in Yateley they were delivering covid
jabs during December.

According to the map published yesterday Berkshire NHS Trust or
Guildford are the closest covid points but neither are actually
responsible for us as we come under Frimley Park which is presumably not
fighting the virus as it is not listed. Indeed the Frimley Park
subsidiary - Wexham Park - is listed so presumably there is a simple
failure to ensure we will receive it!

As for DNAR notice why is someone making a decision before they know the
facts? I assume the cost of repair work is simply being judged
unaffordable - how much does it cost to employ these people making these
decisions? Why am I paying for it?

[Chris]

Post by krw

Post by Vicky Ayech
We covered the widespread use of DNR (Do Not Resuscitate) Notices in
care homes during the first wave of the pandemic. In recent articles,
the Daily Mail has exposed a developing scandal in community health
services, where following a “a geriatric assessment”, some older
people are discovering that DNR notices are being placed on their NHS
records on grounds of “frailty”.
A new breed of “frailty nurse practitioners” are conducting these
assessments of older people living in their own homes. According to
the Mail, the Care Quality Commission is urgently investigating these
practices, but if you know of someone who has had such a geriatric
assessment it would be wise to suggest they inspect their NHS record.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9052831/How-dare-NHS-throw-scrapheap.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8995229/Elderly-patients-given-Not-Resuscitate-orders-against-families-wishes.html

We live in a backward part of the universe around here. Today the wofe
was offered a flu jab. Next door in Yateley they were delivering covid
jabs during December.
According to the map published yesterday Berkshire NHS Trust or
Guildford are the closest covid points but neither are actually
responsible for us as we come under Frimley Park which is presumably not
fighting the virus as it is not listed. Indeed the Frimley Park
subsidiary - Wexham Park - is listed so presumably there is a simple
failure to ensure we will receive it!
As for DNAR notice why is someone making a decision before they know the
facts? I assume the cost of repair work is simply being judged
unaffordable - how much does it cost to employ these people making these
decisions? Why am I paying for it?

But but but. In the first list ofb50 hospitals given out our nearest were
Frimley Park and Oxford!

Sincerely Chris

[krw]

Post by Chris

Post by krw

Post by Vicky Ayech
We covered the widespread use of DNR (Do Not Resuscitate) Notices in
care homes during the first wave of the pandemic. In recent articles,
the Daily Mail has exposed a developing scandal in community health
services, where following a “a geriatric assessment”, some older
people are discovering that DNR notices are being placed on their NHS
records on grounds of “frailty”.
A new breed of “frailty nurse practitioners” are conducting these
assessments of older people living in their own homes. According to
the Mail, the Care Quality Commission is urgently investigating these
practices, but if you know of someone who has had such a geriatric
assessment it would be wise to suggest they inspect their NHS record.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9052831/How-dare-NHS-throw-scrapheap.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8995229/Elderly-patients-given-Not-Resuscitate-orders-against-families-wishes.html

We live in a backward part of the universe around here. Today the wofe
was offered a flu jab. Next door in Yateley they were delivering covid
jabs during December.
According to the map published yesterday Berkshire NHS Trust or
Guildford are the closest covid points but neither are actually
responsible for us as we come under Frimley Park which is presumably not
fighting the virus as it is not listed. Indeed the Frimley Park
subsidiary - Wexham Park - is listed so presumably there is a simple
failure to ensure we will receive it!
As for DNAR notice why is someone making a decision before they know the
facts? I assume the cost of repair work is simply being judged
unaffordable - how much does it cost to employ these people making these
decisions? Why am I paying for it?

But but but. In the first list ofb50 hospitals given out our nearest were
Frimley Park and Oxford!
Sincerely Chris

Frimley Park is definitely not on the list - only Wexham Park and
Berkshire NHS Trust which does not reach Oxford.

[Chris]

Post by krw

Post by Chris

Post by krw

Post by Vicky Ayech
We covered the widespread use of DNR (Do Not Resuscitate) Notices in
care homes during the first wave of the pandemic. In recent articles,
the Daily Mail has exposed a developing scandal in community health
services, where following a “a geriatric assessment”, some older
people are discovering that DNR notices are being placed on their NHS
records on grounds of “frailty”.
A new breed of “frailty nurse practitioners” are conducting these
assessments of older people living in their own homes. According to
the Mail, the Care Quality Commission is urgently investigating these
practices, but if you know of someone who has had such a geriatric
assessment it would be wise to suggest they inspect their NHS record.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9052831/How-dare-NHS-throw-scrapheap.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8995229/Elderly-patients-given-Not-Resuscitate-orders-against-families-wishes.html

We live in a backward part of the universe around here. Today the wofe
was offered a flu jab. Next door in Yateley they were delivering covid
jabs during December.
According to the map published yesterday Berkshire NHS Trust or
Guildford are the closest covid points but neither are actually
responsible for us as we come under Frimley Park which is presumably not
fighting the virus as it is not listed. Indeed the Frimley Park
subsidiary - Wexham Park - is listed so presumably there is a simple
failure to ensure we will receive it!
As for DNAR notice why is someone making a decision before they know the
facts? I assume the cost of repair work is simply being judged
unaffordable - how much does it cost to employ these people making these
decisions? Why am I paying for it?

But but but. In the first list ofb50 hospitals given out our nearest were
Frimley Park and Oxford!
Sincerely Chris

Frimley Park is definitely not on the list - only Wexham Park and
Berkshire NHS Trust which does not reach Oxford.

How weird. RBH isn’t apparently. One of my neighbours is with the surgery
opposite the old entrance and one staff person told her she would go to the
RBH, and another said, “you what”?

My original list was via sky news.

South East Frimley Health and Care ICS Frimley Health NHS Foundation Trust

OF 5th Jan. Directly under Berkshire NHS Trust

Confused of Earley

According to the local paper which I read on line it tells me we’re behind
‘done’ at the surgery in the Woodley shopping centre. Ten mins walk from
what was Bulmershe campus. This may be right as I know the care home now
on the campus site has had vaccinations. Sadly an old frirnd was taken in
the other day and her family told me she was given it on her arrival. This
is good news as it means two other friends there have also had theirs and
they can soon meet my friend again. One is related to her by marriage and
the other is there as a younger person with serious disabling conditions
and is a mutual friend of ours and has seen her deteriorate till lockdown
1.

Sincerely Chris

[Clive Arthur]

On 06/01/2021 12:18, Chris wrote:

<snip>

Post by Chris
According to the local paper which I read on line it tells me we’re behind
‘done’ at the surgery in the Woodley shopping centre.

Arm, Shirley?

[krw]

Post by Clive Arthur
<snip>

Post by Chris
According to the local paper which I read on line it tells me we’re behind
‘done’ at the surgery in the Woodley shopping centre.

Arm, Shirley?

No Shirley is in Southampton, not Reading.

[Penny]

On Wed, 6 Jan 2021 13:21:30 +0000, krw <***@whitnet.uk> scrawled in the
dust...

Post by krw

Post by Clive Arthur
<snip>

Post by Chris
According to the local paper which I read on line it tells me we’re behind
‘done’ at the surgery in the Woodley shopping centre.

Arm, Shirley?

No Shirley is in Southampton, not Reading.

Shirley gets about, she's also in Croydon, Solihull and Derbyshire.

[krw]

Post by Penny
dust...

Post by krw

Post by Clive Arthur
<snip>

Post by Chris
According to the local paper which I read on line it tells me we’re behind
‘done’ at the surgery in the Woodley shopping centre.

Arm, Shirley?

No Shirley is in Southampton, not Reading.

Shirley gets about, she's also in Croydon, Solihull and Derbyshire.

That girl is no better than she oughter be.

[Mike McMillan]

Post by krw

Post by Penny
dust...

Post by krw

Post by Clive Arthur
<snip>

Post by Chris
According to the local paper which I read on line it tells me we’re behind
‘done’ at the surgery in the Woodley shopping centre.

Arm, Shirley?

No Shirley is in Southampton, not Reading.

Shirley gets about, she's also in Croydon, Solihull and Derbyshire.

That girl is no better than she oughter be.

I believe she goes South for the ‘Ampton...

[Sam Plusnet]

Post by Penny
dust...

Post by krw

Post by Clive Arthur
<snip>

Post by Chris
According to the local paper which I read on line it tells me we’re behind
‘done’ at the surgery in the Woodley shopping centre.

Arm, Shirley?

No Shirley is in Southampton, not Reading.

Shirley gets about, she's also in Croydon, Solihull and Derbyshire.

When not grunting, groaning and grappling.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shirley_Crabtree

[BrritSki]

Post by Sam Plusnet

Post by Penny
dust...

Post by krw

Post by Clive Arthur
<snip>

Post by Chris
According to the local paper which I read on line it tells me we’re behind
‘done’ at the surgery in the Woodley shopping centre.

Arm, Shirley?

No Shirley is in Southampton, not Reading.

Shirley gets about, she's also in Croydon, Solihull and Derbyshire.

When not grunting, groaning and grappling.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shirley_Crabtree

No relation to Marion Robert Morrison of Westerns fame...

[BrritSki]

Post by Clive Arthur
<snip>

Post by Chris
According to the local paper which I read on line it tells me we’re behind
‘done’ at the surgery in the Woodley shopping centre.

Arm, Shirley?

BTN (and early test for the new BTM)

Arm has been sold to Japan I think....

[Mike McMillan]

Post by BrritSki

Post by Clive Arthur
<snip>

Post by Chris
According to the local paper which I read on line it tells me we’re behind
‘done’ at the surgery in the Woodley shopping centre.

Arm, Shirley?

BTN (and early test for the new BTM)
Arm has been sold to Japan I think....

Ah, that will be an Ache Corn I suppose?

[John Ashby]

Post by Clive Arthur
<snip>

Post by Chris
According to the local paper which I read on line it tells me we’re behind
‘done’ at the surgery in the Woodley shopping centre.

Arm, Shirley?

BTN  (and early test for the new BTM)
Arm has been sold to Japan I think....

Accepted (because who should know better than you?)

john

[BrritSki]

Post by John Ashby

Post by Clive Arthur
<snip>

Post by Chris
According to the local paper which I read on line it tells me we’re behind
‘done’ at the surgery in the Woodley shopping centre.

Arm, Shirley?

BTN  (and early test for the new BTM)
Arm has been sold to Japan I think....

Accepted (because who should know better than you?)

Trick question ! I'm not even sure it was MV - or even funny - but as
BTM, your decision is final :)

[Chris]

Post by Vicky Ayech
We covered the widespread use of DNR (Do Not Resuscitate) Notices in
care homes during the first wave of the pandemic. In recent articles,
the Daily Mail has exposed a developing scandal in community health
services, where following a “a geriatric assessment”, some older
people are discovering that DNR notices are being placed on their NHS
records on grounds of “frailty”.
A new breed of “frailty nurse practitioners” are conducting these
assessments of older people living in their own homes. According to
the Mail, the Care Quality Commission is urgently investigating these
practices, but if you know of someone who has had such a geriatric
assessment it would be wise to suggest they inspect their NHS record.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9052831/How-dare-NHS-throw-scrapheap.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8995229/Elderly-patients-given-Not-Resuscitate-orders-against-families-wishes.html

What’s that got to do with the price of fish?

Sincerely Chris

[krw]

Post by Chris

Post by Vicky Ayech
We covered the widespread use of DNR (Do Not Resuscitate) Notices in
care homes during the first wave of the pandemic. In recent articles,
the Daily Mail has exposed a developing scandal in community health
services, where following a “a geriatric assessment”, some older
people are discovering that DNR notices are being placed on their NHS
records on grounds of “frailty”.
A new breed of “frailty nurse practitioners” are conducting these
assessments of older people living in their own homes. According to
the Mail, the Care Quality Commission is urgently investigating these
practices, but if you know of someone who has had such a geriatric
assessment it would be wise to suggest they inspect their NHS record.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9052831/How-dare-NHS-throw-scrapheap.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8995229/Elderly-patients-given-Not-Resuscitate-orders-against-families-wishes.html

What’s that got to do with the price of fish?
Sincerely Chris

Fish is extra luv.

[Paul Herber]

Post by Vicky Ayech
We covered the widespread use of DNR (Do Not Resuscitate) Notices in
care homes during the first wave of the pandemic. In recent articles,
the Daily Mail has exposed a developing scandal in community health
services, where following a ?a geriatric assessment?, some older
people are discovering that DNR notices are being placed on their NHS
records on grounds of ?frailty?.
A new breed of ?frailty nurse practitioners? are conducting these
assessments of older people living in their own homes. According to
the Mail, the Care Quality Commission is urgently investigating these
practices, but if you know of someone who has had such a geriatric
assessment it would be wise to suggest they inspect their NHS record.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9052831/How-dare-NHS-throw-scrapheap.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8995229/Elderly-patients-given-Not-Resuscitate-orders-against-families-wishes.html

What’s that got to do with the price of fish?

Must be a load of codswallop.

[krw]

Post by Paul Herber

Post by Chris

Post by Vicky Ayech
We covered the widespread use of DNR (Do Not Resuscitate) Notices in
care homes during the first wave of the pandemic. In recent articles,
the Daily Mail has exposed a developing scandal in community health
services, where following a ?a geriatric assessment?, some older
people are discovering that DNR notices are being placed on their NHS
records on grounds of ?frailty?.
A new breed of ?frailty nurse practitioners? are conducting these
assessments of older people living in their own homes. According to
the Mail, the Care Quality Commission is urgently investigating these
practices, but if you know of someone who has had such a geriatric
assessment it would be wise to suggest they inspect their NHS record.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9052831/How-dare-NHS-throw-scrapheap.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8995229/Elderly-patients-given-Not-Resuscitate-orders-against-families-wishes.html

What’s that got to do with the price of fish?

Must be a load of codswallop.

There is no plaice here for such hake speech.

[BrritSki]

Post by krw

Post by Paul Herber

Post by Chris

Post by Vicky Ayech
We covered the widespread use of DNR (Do Not Resuscitate) Notices in
care homes during the first wave of the pandemic. In recent articles,
the Daily Mail has exposed a developing scandal in community health
services, where following a ?a geriatric assessment?, some older
people are discovering that DNR notices are being placed on their NHS
records on grounds of ?frailty?.
A new breed of ?frailty nurse practitioners? are conducting these
assessments of older people living in their own homes. According to
the Mail, the Care Quality Commission is urgently investigating these
practices, but if you know of someone who has had such a geriatric
assessment it would be wise to suggest they inspect their NHS record.

What’s that got to do with the price of fish?

Must be a load of codswallop.

There is no plaice here for such hake speech.

But the original writer was concerned about the eternal sole I think.

[Sally Thompson]

Post by BrritSki

Post by krw

Post by Paul Herber

Post by Chris

Post by Vicky Ayech
We covered the widespread use of DNR (Do Not Resuscitate) Notices in
care homes during the first wave of the pandemic. In recent articles,
the Daily Mail has exposed a developing scandal in community health
services, where following a ?a geriatric assessment?, some older
people are discovering that DNR notices are being placed on their NHS
records on grounds of ?frailty?.
A new breed of ?frailty nurse practitioners? are conducting these
assessments of older people living in their own homes. According to
the Mail, the Care Quality Commission is urgently investigating these
practices, but if you know of someone who has had such a geriatric
assessment it would be wise to suggest they inspect their NHS record.

What’s that got to do with the price of fish?

Must be a load of codswallop.

There is no plaice here for such hake speech.

But the original writer was concerned about the eternal sole I think.

I see the quotes are taken from the Daily Whale.

[Vicky Ayech]

On 4 Jan 2021 19:54:58 GMT, Sally Thompson

Post by Sally Thompson

Post by BrritSki

Post by krw

Post by Paul Herber

Post by Vicky Ayech
We covered the widespread use of DNR (Do Not Resuscitate) Notices in
care homes during the first wave of the pandemic. In recent articles,
the Daily Mail has exposed a developing scandal in community health
services, where following a ?a geriatric assessment?, some older
people are discovering that DNR notices are being placed on their NHS
records on grounds of ?frailty?.
A new breed of ?frailty nurse practitioners? are conducting these
assessments of older people living in their own homes. According to
the Mail, the Care Quality Commission is urgently investigating these
practices, but if you know of someone who has had such a geriatric
assessment it would be wise to suggest they inspect their NHS record.

What’s that got to do with the price of fish?

Must be a load of codswallop.

There is no plaice here for such hake speech.

But the original writer was concerned about the eternal sole I think.

I see the quotes are taken from the Daily Whale.

Yes, the link and information were sent to me by
silvervoices.co.uk . I get a regular email from them. They've been
campaigning for various things.

[Joe Kerr]

Post by Sally Thompson

Post by BrritSki

Post by krw

Post by Paul Herber

Post by Chris

Post by Vicky Ayech
We covered the widespread use of DNR (Do Not Resuscitate) Notices in
care homes during the first wave of the pandemic. In recent articles,
the Daily Mail has exposed a developing scandal in community health
services, where following a ?a geriatric assessment?, some older
people are discovering that DNR notices are being placed on their NHS
records on grounds of ?frailty?.
A new breed of ?frailty nurse practitioners? are conducting these
assessments of older people living in their own homes. According to
the Mail, the Care Quality Commission is urgently investigating these
practices, but if you know of someone who has had such a geriatric
assessment it would be wise to suggest they inspect their NHS record.

What’s that got to do with the price of fish?

Must be a load of codswallop.

There is no plaice here for such hake speech.

But the original writer was concerned about the eternal sole I think.

I see the quotes are taken from the Daily Whale.

You've all clammed up so there is little point me musseling in to say it
is all pollocks.

[Mike McMillan]

Post by Joe Kerr

Post by Sally Thompson

Post by BrritSki

Post by krw

Post by Paul Herber

Post by Chris

Post by Vicky Ayech
We covered the widespread use of DNR (Do Not Resuscitate) Notices in
care homes during the first wave of the pandemic. In recent articles,
the Daily Mail has exposed a developing scandal in community health
services, where following a ?a geriatric assessment?, some older
people are discovering that DNR notices are being placed on their NHS
records on grounds of ?frailty?.
A new breed of ?frailty nurse practitioners? are conducting these
assessments of older people living in their own homes. According to
the Mail, the Care Quality Commission is urgently investigating these
practices, but if you know of someone who has had such a geriatric
assessment it would be wise to suggest they inspect their NHS record.

What’s that got to do with the price of fish?

Must be a load of codswallop.

There is no plaice here for such hake speech.

But the original writer was concerned about the eternal sole I think.

I see the quotes are taken from the Daily Whale.

You've all clammed up so there is little point me musseling in to say it
is all pollocks.

It takes krill to write like that and I hadn’t plankt on adding to this
thread, it’s not really in my line, but you’ve got me hooked but I have net
got anything to add reely.

[Sid Nuncius]

Post by Mike McMillan

Post by Joe Kerr

Post by Sally Thompson

Post by BrritSki

Post by krw

Post by Paul Herber

Post by Chris

Post by Vicky Ayech
We covered the widespread use of DNR (Do Not Resuscitate) Notices in
care homes during the first wave of the pandemic. In recent articles,
the Daily Mail has exposed a developing scandal in community health
services, where following a ?a geriatric assessment?, some older
people are discovering that DNR notices are being placed on their NHS
records on grounds of ?frailty?.
A new breed of ?frailty nurse practitioners? are conducting these
assessments of older people living in their own homes. According to
the Mail, the Care Quality Commission is urgently investigating these
practices, but if you know of someone who has had such a geriatric
assessment it would be wise to suggest they inspect their NHS record.

What’s that got to do with the price of fish?

Must be a load of codswallop.

There is no plaice here for such hake speech.

But the original writer was concerned about the eternal sole I think.

I see the quotes are taken from the Daily Whale.

You've all clammed up so there is little point me musseling in to say it
is all pollocks.

It takes krill to write like that and I hadn’t plankt on adding to this
thread, it’s not really in my line, but you’ve got me hooked but I have net
got anything to add reely.

I have decided not to make any fishpuns this time - barracuda done if
I'd felt like it.

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 at 13:55:06, krw <***@whitnet.uk> wrote (my responses
usually follow points raised):
[]

Post by krw
We live in a backward part of the universe around here. Today the wofe
was offered a flu jab. Next door in Yateley they were delivering covid
jabs during December.

Unless there are reasons not to (such as doubts about adequate
CoViD-isolation being offered), I'd take the 'flu jab, regardless of the
rest.
[]

Post by krw
not fighting the virus as it is not listed. Indeed the Frimley Park
subsidiary - Wexham Park - is listed so presumably there is a simple
failure to ensure we will receive it!

https://www.omnicalculator.com/health/vaccine-queue-uk is now giving the
projected date for your _second_ jab, which is depressing (for me it's
between September and November). Though you can work out your first by
subtracting 12 weeks.

Post by krw
As for DNAR notice why is someone making a decision before they know
the facts? I assume the cost of repair work is simply being judged
unaffordable - how much does it cost to employ these people making
these decisions? Why am I paying for it?

Good questions.