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Radio Times/BBC Credits and Spoilers - week ending 22nd November 2019
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carolet
2019-11-16 23:29:44 UTC
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Note that spoilers are included below the cast and crew.

Cast :
Jill Archer - Patricia Greene
David Archer - Timothy Bentinck
Pip Archer - Daisy Badger
Pat Archer - Patricia Gallimore
Brian Aldridge - Charles Collingwood
Phoebe Aldridge - Lucy Morris
Lilian Bellamy - Sunny Ormonde
Harrison Burns - James Cartwright
Neil Carter - Brian Hewlett
Justin Elliott - Simon Williams
Rex Fairbrother - Nick Barber
Eddie Grundy - Trevor Harrison
Clarrie Grundy - Heather Bell
Will Grundy - Philip Molloy
Emma Grundy - Emerald O'Hanrahan
Ed Grundy - Barry Farrimond
Tracy Horrobin - Susie Riddell
Elizabeth Pargetter - Alison Dowling
Lily Pargetter - Katie Redford
Johnny Phillips - Tom Gibbons
Leonard Berry - Paul Copley
Russ Jones - Andonis James Anthony
Joy Horville - Jackie Lye
Alf Grundy - David Hargreaves
Roman Trench - Ewan Bailey

Director : Rosemary Watts
Editor : Jeremy Howe
Writer : Tim Stimpson

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Spoilers:
Sunday 17th - Phoebe hatches a plan and Lily's attempt to do the right
thing backfires.
Monday 18th - It is an emotional day for Eddie and Joy makes a friend.
Tuesday 19th - There’s a bump in the road for Elizabeth and David has
concerns.
Wednesday 20th - Lily is left feeling guilty and Justin attempts to
widen his net.
Thursday 21st - Things are looking up for Tracy, and Eddie has a change
of heart.
Friday 22nd - Justin's plans gather pace and Jill sets the record
straight.
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Vicky Ayech
2019-11-17 09:48:57 UTC
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Note that spoilers are included below the cast and crew.
Jill Archer - Patricia Greene
David Archer - Timothy Bentinck
Pip Archer - Daisy Badger
Pat Archer - Patricia Gallimore
Brian Aldridge - Charles Collingwood
Phoebe Aldridge - Lucy Morris
Lilian Bellamy - Sunny Ormonde
Harrison Burns - James Cartwright
Neil Carter - Brian Hewlett
Justin Elliott - Simon Williams
Rex Fairbrother - Nick Barber
Eddie Grundy - Trevor Harrison
Clarrie Grundy - Heather Bell
Will Grundy - Philip Molloy
Emma Grundy - Emerald O'Hanrahan
Ed Grundy - Barry Farrimond
Tracy Horrobin - Susie Riddell
Elizabeth Pargetter - Alison Dowling
Lily Pargetter - Katie Redford
Johnny Phillips - Tom Gibbons
Leonard Berry - Paul Copley
Russ Jones - Andonis James Anthony
Joy Horville - Jackie Lye
Alf Grundy - David Hargreaves
Roman Trench - Ewan Bailey
Director : Rosemary Watts
Editor : Jeremy Howe
Writer : Tim Stimpson
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Sunday 17th - Phoebe hatches a plan and Lily's attempt to do the right
thing backfires.
Phoebe needs more land, doesn't she?
Who can she persuade to let them use the land?
What should Lily do? Johnny is her friend and she has the photo.
Should she show it to him? Will he say that's her cousin/brother and
you are making trouble?
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Monday 18th - It is an emotional day for Eddie and Joy makes a friend.
Eddie is getting ready to move the family out of Grange Farm, there is
no room for Alf, who is in the Bull asking Lilian about rooms, when
Joy overhears....
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Tuesday 19th - There’s a bump in the road for Elizabeth and David has
concerns.
She checks the activities and finances of the Gallery for the time
Russ has been running it. Oh dear!
David googles Lenard to check up on him.
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Wednesday 20th - Lily is left feeling guilty and Justin attempts to
widen his net.
Johnny told Rosie..Ruby? Umbrella what Freddie showed him and it turns
out Umbrella was having a snog and she is not exclusive to Johnny. He
is devastated.
Justin lays plans to influence Lilian on how to run The Bull.
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Thursday 21st - Things are looking up for Tracy, and Eddie has a change
of heart.
Oliver suggests Tracy go on a management/house-keeping
course/reception course to learn new skills and develop her potential.

Eddie worries about what Alf will do if he goes tolive with Joy.
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Friday 22nd - Justin's plans gather pace and Jill sets the record
straight.
He goes through the finances of The Bull and annoys Kenton and Jolene.

Jill gives David a piece of her mkind./ She is not cormoranting with
Lenard. She enjoys his company.
Penny
2019-11-17 10:56:31 UTC
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Roman Trench -
The archaeologist?
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Chris McMillan
2019-11-17 11:36:06 UTC
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Roman Trench - Ewan Bailey
Hope this best friend has a sense of humour

Sincerely Chris
BrritSki
2019-11-17 16:33:59 UTC
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Roman Trench    -    Ewan Bailey
Hope this best friend has a sense of humour
Why couldn't his parents have named him Norman?
Or Doug.
John Ashby
2019-11-17 17:15:07 UTC
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Roman Trench    -    Ewan Bailey
Hope this best friend has a sense of humour
Why couldn't his parents have named him Norman?
Or Doug.
Or Morton.

john
BrritSki
2019-11-17 19:03:46 UTC
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Roman Trench    -    Ewan Bailey
Hope this best friend has a sense of humour
Why couldn't his parents have named him Norman?
Or Doug.
Or Morton.
And his wife Mariana.
John Ashby
2019-11-17 19:05:39 UTC
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Roman Trench    -    Ewan Bailey
Hope this best friend has a sense of humour
Why couldn't his parents have named him Norman?
Or Doug.
Or Morton.
And his wife Mariana.
We are at cross-porpoises, I'm referring to the best friend, you to the
Ambridge visitor.

john
BrritSki
2019-11-17 20:40:19 UTC
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Roman Trench    -    Ewan Bailey
Hope this best friend has a sense of humour
Why couldn't his parents have named him Norman?
Or Doug.
Or Morton.
And his wife Mariana.
We are at cross-porpoises, I'm referring to the best friend, you to the
Ambridge visitor.
Aha. I had no idea what you were on about and Google found this which I
assumed was famous: <https://www.mrturk.com/products/morton-trench-coat>

IGMMTC
Vicky Ayech
2019-11-17 12:00:21 UTC
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Note that spoilers are included below the cast and crew.
Jill Archer - Patricia Greene
David Archer - Timothy Bentinck
Pip Archer - Daisy Badger
Pat Archer - Patricia Gallimore
Brian Aldridge - Charles Collingwood
Phoebe Aldridge - Lucy Morris
Lilian Bellamy - Sunny Ormonde
Harrison Burns - James Cartwright
Neil Carter - Brian Hewlett
Justin Elliott - Simon Williams
Rex Fairbrother - Nick Barber
Eddie Grundy - Trevor Harrison
Clarrie Grundy - Heather Bell
Will Grundy - Philip Molloy
Emma Grundy - Emerald O'Hanrahan
Ed Grundy - Barry Farrimond
Tracy Horrobin - Susie Riddell
Elizabeth Pargetter - Alison Dowling
Lily Pargetter - Katie Redford
Johnny Phillips - Tom Gibbons
Leonard Berry - Paul Copley
Russ Jones - Andonis James Anthony
Joy Horville - Jackie Lye
Alf Grundy - David Hargreaves
Roman Trench - Ewan Bailey
Director : Rosemary Watts
Editor : Jeremy Howe
Writer : Tim Stimpson
S
P
O
I
L
E
R
S
Sunday 17th - Phoebe hatches a plan and Lily's attempt to do the right
thing backfires.
Monday 18th - It is an emotional day for Eddie and Joy makes a friend.
Tuesday 19th - There’s a bump in the road for Elizabeth and David has
concerns.
Wednesday 20th - Lily is left feeling guilty and Justin attempts to
widen his net.
Thursday 21st - Things are looking up for Tracy, and Eddie has a change
of heart.
Friday 22nd - Justin's plans gather pace and Jill sets the record
straight.
Pat is in it but not Tony. Harrison is init butnot Fallon. So is Pat
going to have a word with Joy? " 'Ere, you keep away from my 'usband"
#channelingEastenders

Is Harrison going to be on the trail of some criminal? I'm looking at
you, Alf. Does he stop Alf, just in time, fromscamming Joy?

Tracy is in it butnot Oliver so my guess about the course might be
wrong, unless she reports her conversation with him to someone? Susan
and Lynda are not in it. Nor Freddie. Neil is though. She might tell
him.

Who is Roman Trench?
Nick Odell
2019-11-17 12:34:06 UTC
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Note that spoilers are included below the cast and crew.
Jill Archer - Patricia Greene
David Archer - Timothy Bentinck
Pip Archer - Daisy Badger
Pat Archer - Patricia Gallimore
Brian Aldridge - Charles Collingwood
Phoebe Aldridge - Lucy Morris
Lilian Bellamy - Sunny Ormonde
Harrison Burns - James Cartwright
Neil Carter - Brian Hewlett
Justin Elliott - Simon Williams
Rex Fairbrother - Nick Barber
Eddie Grundy - Trevor Harrison
Clarrie Grundy - Heather Bell
Will Grundy - Philip Molloy
Emma Grundy - Emerald O'Hanrahan
Ed Grundy - Barry Farrimond
Tracy Horrobin - Susie Riddell
Elizabeth Pargetter - Alison Dowling
Lily Pargetter - Katie Redford
Johnny Phillips - Tom Gibbons
Leonard Berry - Paul Copley
Russ Jones - Andonis James Anthony
Joy Horville - Jackie Lye
Alf Grundy - David Hargreaves
Roman Trench - Ewan Bailey
I'm wondering why Alf Grundy is shown second to last in the cast list
rather than amongst the other Grundys? Especially since the dialogue
I've heard in the occasional episodes I've listened to makes me feel
he might be being set up as a regular character.

But I notice that the venerable David Hargreaves who plays him is
-erme- getting on a bit and if he falls off his perch anytime soon,
perhaps they think it will be easier to roll him off the cast list
from down near the bottom.

Nick
John Ashby
2019-11-17 15:47:21 UTC
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Note that spoilers are included below the cast and crew.
Jill Archer - Patricia Greene
David Archer - Timothy Bentinck
Pip Archer - Daisy Badger
Pat Archer - Patricia Gallimore
Brian Aldridge - Charles Collingwood
Phoebe Aldridge - Lucy Morris
Lilian Bellamy - Sunny Ormonde
Harrison Burns - James Cartwright
Neil Carter - Brian Hewlett
Justin Elliott - Simon Williams
Rex Fairbrother - Nick Barber
Eddie Grundy - Trevor Harrison
Clarrie Grundy - Heather Bell
Will Grundy - Philip Molloy
Emma Grundy - Emerald O'Hanrahan
Ed Grundy - Barry Farrimond
Tracy Horrobin - Susie Riddell
Elizabeth Pargetter - Alison Dowling
Lily Pargetter - Katie Redford
Johnny Phillips - Tom Gibbons
Leonard Berry - Paul Copley
Russ Jones - Andonis James Anthony
Joy Horville - Jackie Lye
Alf Grundy - David Hargreaves
Roman Trench - Ewan Bailey
I'm wondering why Alf Grundy is shown second to last in the cast list
rather than amongst the other Grundys? Especially since the dialogue
I've heard in the occasional episodes I've listened to makes me feel
he might be being set up as a regular character.
But I notice that the venerable David Hargreaves who plays him is
-erme- getting on a bit and if he falls off his perch anytime soon,
perhaps they think it will be easier to roll him off the cast list
from down near the bottom.
Nick
One quick heave and he'll end up in Front Row.

john
carolet
2019-11-17 23:16:19 UTC
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Note that spoilers are included below the cast and crew.
Jill Archer - Patricia Greene
David Archer - Timothy Bentinck
Pip Archer - Daisy Badger
Pat Archer - Patricia Gallimore
Brian Aldridge - Charles Collingwood
Phoebe Aldridge - Lucy Morris
Lilian Bellamy - Sunny Ormonde
Harrison Burns - James Cartwright
Neil Carter - Brian Hewlett
Justin Elliott - Simon Williams
Rex Fairbrother - Nick Barber
Eddie Grundy - Trevor Harrison
Clarrie Grundy - Heather Bell
Will Grundy - Philip Molloy
Emma Grundy - Emerald O'Hanrahan
Ed Grundy - Barry Farrimond
Tracy Horrobin - Susie Riddell
Elizabeth Pargetter - Alison Dowling
Lily Pargetter - Katie Redford
Johnny Phillips - Tom Gibbons
Leonard Berry - Paul Copley
Russ Jones - Andonis James Anthony
Joy Horville - Jackie Lye
Alf Grundy - David Hargreaves
Roman Trench - Ewan Bailey
I'm wondering why Alf Grundy is shown second to last in the cast list
rather than amongst the other Grundys? Especially since the dialogue
I've heard in the occasional episodes I've listened to makes me feel
he might be being set up as a regular character.
But I notice that the venerable David Hargreaves who plays him is
-erme- getting on a bit and if he falls off his perch anytime soon,
perhaps they think it will be easier to roll him off the cast list
from down near the bottom.
Nick
Alf was in the right place in the cast list last week, but in the
several weeks before that, in which he was in Ambridge, he didn't appear
at all.

Alf was 75 this week, David Hargreaves is approaching 80.
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Mike
2019-11-18 08:41:28 UTC
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Note that spoilers are included below the cast and crew.
Jill Archer - Patricia Greene
David Archer - Timothy Bentinck
Pip Archer - Daisy Badger
Pat Archer - Patricia Gallimore
Brian Aldridge - Charles Collingwood
Phoebe Aldridge - Lucy Morris
Lilian Bellamy - Sunny Ormonde
Harrison Burns - James Cartwright
Neil Carter - Brian Hewlett
Justin Elliott - Simon Williams
Rex Fairbrother - Nick Barber
Eddie Grundy - Trevor Harrison
Clarrie Grundy - Heather Bell
Will Grundy - Philip Molloy
Emma Grundy - Emerald O'Hanrahan
Ed Grundy - Barry Farrimond
Tracy Horrobin - Susie Riddell
Elizabeth Pargetter - Alison Dowling
Lily Pargetter - Katie Redford
Johnny Phillips - Tom Gibbons
Leonard Berry - Paul Copley
Russ Jones - Andonis James Anthony
Joy Horville - Jackie Lye
Alf Grundy - David Hargreaves
Roman Trench - Ewan Bailey
I'm wondering why Alf Grundy is shown second to last in the cast list
rather than amongst the other Grundys? Especially since the dialogue
I've heard in the occasional episodes I've listened to makes me feel
he might be being set up as a regular character.
But I notice that the venerable David Hargreaves who plays him is
-erme- getting on a bit and if he falls off his perch anytime soon,
perhaps they think it will be easier to roll him off the cast list
from down near the bottom.
Nick
Alf was in the right place in the cast list last week, but in the
several weeks before that, in which he was in Ambridge, he didn't appear
at all.
Alf was 75 this week, David Hargreaves is approaching 80.
His physical age may be rather greater than that - what with all those
years in jail...
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Vicky Ayech
2019-11-18 09:00:52 UTC
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I'm wondering why Alf Grundy is shown second to last in the cast list
rather than amongst the other Grundys? Especially since the dialogue
I've heard in the occasional episodes I've listened to makes me feel
he might be being set up as a regular character.
But I notice that the venerable David Hargreaves who plays him is
-erme- getting on a bit and if he falls off his perch anytime soon,
perhaps they think it will be easier to roll him off the cast list
from down near the bottom.
Nick
Alf was in the right place in the cast list last week, but in the
several weeks before that, in which he was in Ambridge, he didn't appear
at all.
Alf was 75 this week, David Hargreaves is approaching 80.
His physical age may be rather greater than that - what with all those
years in jail...
He may be best off going back in. A nice warm place to stay, 3
goodmeals, recreational facilities, medical care. Better than some
OAPs outside.
Penny
2019-11-23 01:50:53 UTC
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Roman Trench - Ewan Bailey
So who was he?
I must have missed something, I'm plainly not listening as I used to.
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John Ashby
2019-11-23 05:49:16 UTC
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Roman Trench - Ewan Bailey
So who was he?
I must have missed something, I'm plainly not listening as I used to.
Tracey's actor.

john
Nick Odell
2019-11-23 12:22:29 UTC
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Roman Trench - Ewan Bailey
So who was he?
I must have missed something, I'm plainly not listening as I used to.
Tracey's actor.
I thought that was Susie Riddell?

Nick
John Ashby
2019-11-23 16:24:16 UTC
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Roman Trench - Ewan Bailey
So who was he?
I must have missed something, I'm plainly not listening as I used to.
Tracey's actor.
I thought that was Susie Riddell?
Nick
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Serena Blanchflower
2019-11-23 16:28:55 UTC
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Roman Trench - Ewan Bailey
So who was he?
I must have missed something, I'm plainly not listening as I used to.
Tracey's actor.
I thought that was Susie Riddell?
No, she's Tracey's close friend. Roman was the actor, playing at Grey
Gables, that Tracey fancied (and who, by the sound of it, fancied her).
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it on, I go to the library and read a good book (Groucho Marx)
Chris McMillan
2019-11-23 08:00:53 UTC
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Roman Trench - Ewan Bailey
So who was he?
I must have missed something, I'm plainly not listening as I used to.
An actor who bewitched Tracey with tales of where she’d seen him which may
or may not have reflected Roman’s best friend’s career. I’ve never seen the
series

Sincerely Chris
Mike
2019-11-23 08:04:57 UTC
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Roman Trench - Ewan Bailey
So who was he?
I must have missed something, I'm plainly not listening as I used to.
An actor who bewitched Tracey with tales of where she’d seen him which may
or may not have reflected Roman’s best friend’s career. I’ve never seen the
series
Sincerely Chris
Was he a ‘celeb insert’ or summat then?
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Penny
2019-11-23 10:48:52 UTC
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Roman Trench - Ewan Bailey
So who was he?
I must have missed something, I'm plainly not listening as I used to.
An actor who bewitched Tracey with tales of where she’d seen him which may
or may not have reflected Roman’s best friend’s career. I’ve never seen the
series
Sincerely Chris
Was he a ‘celeb insert’ or summat then?
Nah, I remember him now, just a silly moment which had Harrison acting
completely out of character.

Talking of 'celeb inserts', I found myself watching an episode of Perry
Mason (an American court room drama from my childhood y'honour) yesterday
simply because the innocent party was played by David McCallum (before he
was famous). I recognised the voice straight away, in spite of the phoney
French accent - but then I got to know him when he played a Russian.
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Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959
DavidK
2019-11-23 11:53:56 UTC
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Talking of 'celeb inserts', I found myself watching an episode of Perry
Mason (an American court room drama from my childhood y'honour) yesterday
simply because the innocent party was played by David McCallum (before he
was famous). I recognised the voice straight away, in spite of the phoney
French accent - but then I got to know him when he played a Russian.
Oh yes, he introduced me to haiku.
Mike
2019-11-23 11:58:59 UTC
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Talking of 'celeb inserts', I found myself watching an episode of Perry
Mason (an American court room drama from my childhood y'honour) yesterday
simply because the innocent party was played by David McCallum (before he
was famous). I recognised the voice straight away, in spite of the phoney
French accent - but then I got to know him when he played a Russian.
Oh yes, he introduced me to haiku.
Bless you.
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Toodle Pip
Jim Easterbrook
2019-11-23 16:28:21 UTC
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Roman Trench - Ewan Bailey
So who was he?
I must have missed something, I'm plainly not listening as I used to.
An actor who bewitched Tracey with tales of where she’d seen him which
may or may not have reflected Roman’s best friend’s career. I’ve never
seen the series
Was he a ‘celeb insert’ or summat then?
Nah, I remember him now, just a silly moment which had Harrison acting
completely out of character.
Calling him "Hamilton" didn't bring out the best in him.
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