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Mike Ruddock
2019-08-01 07:27:42 UTC
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It seems that Piggy has money invested. We don't know where, though the
implication of her sharp remark to Emma that E didn't know what return P
was getting on her investments is, surely, that the return is good. (I
always have the mantra "big return means high risk")

How well this fits (NOT) with P's pompous Polonian precept "Neither a
borrower nor a lender be"

I dislike Peggy and have for many an episode.

Mike Ruddock
Vicky Ayech
2019-08-01 08:44:22 UTC
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Post by Mike Ruddock
Just
in
case
some
folk
don't
read
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It seems that Piggy has money invested. We don't know where, though the
implication of her sharp remark to Emma that E didn't know what return P
was getting on her investments is, surely, that the return is good. (I
always have the mantra "big return means high risk")
How well this fits (NOT) with P's pompous Polonian precept "Neither a
borrower nor a lender be"
I dislike Peggy and have for many an episode.
Mike Ruddock
I used to like her. She was very good with the secondJack. She put up
with the first and managed the pub and brought up two children. She
has been supportive of Jenny and Lilian and a good and generous
grandmother. ButI thought when she fired Emma that was the PTF as
itwasdone with no notice and making Emma do the hardest stuff that day
and no compensation. She knew how much Emma needed the money. A pay
off would have meant little to her. And the scene with neither a
borrower or lender be was callous. As for Krait.....I hope there is
karma waiting. Surely one day bad has to happen? And nuggering good
for Ed?
Penny
2019-08-01 09:17:38 UTC
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Post by Vicky Ayech
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 08:27:42 +0100, Mike Ruddock
Post by Mike Ruddock
Just
in
case
some
folk
don't
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It seems that Piggy has money invested.
Well of course she does.
Post by Vicky Ayech
Post by Mike Ruddock
We don't know where, though the
implication of her sharp remark to Emma that E didn't know what return P
was getting on her investments is, surely, that the return is good. (I
always have the mantra "big return means high risk")
How well this fits (NOT) with P's pompous Polonian precept "Neither a
borrower nor a lender be"
I dislike Peggy and have for many an episode.
Mike Ruddock
I used to like her. She was very good with the secondJack. She put up
with the first and managed the pub and brought up two children.
<cough> three children
DINTAFPOU?
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John Ashby
2019-08-01 10:47:00 UTC
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Post by Vicky Ayech
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 08:27:42 +0100, Mike Ruddock
Post by Mike Ruddock
Just
in
case
some
folk
don't
read
headers
It seems that Piggy has money invested.
Well of course she does.
Post by Vicky Ayech
Post by Mike Ruddock
We don't know where, though the
implication of her sharp remark to Emma that E didn't know what return P
was getting on her investments is, surely, that the return is good. (I
always have the mantra "big return means high risk")
How well this fits (NOT) with P's pompous Polonian precept "Neither a
borrower nor a lender be"
I dislike Peggy and have for many an episode.
Mike Ruddock
I used to like her. She was very good with the secondJack. She put up
with the first and managed the pub and brought up two children.
<cough> three children
DINTAFPOU?
You think Tony ever grew up?

Or any of them, come to that.

john
Penny
2019-08-01 15:01:11 UTC
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Post by Vicky Ayech
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 08:27:42 +0100, Mike Ruddock
Post by Mike Ruddock
Just
in
case
some
folk
don't
read
headers
It seems that Piggy has money invested.
Well of course she does.
Post by Vicky Ayech
Post by Mike Ruddock
We don't know where, though the
implication of her sharp remark to Emma that E didn't know what return P
was getting on her investments is, surely, that the return is good. (I
always have the mantra "big return means high risk")
How well this fits (NOT) with P's pompous Polonian precept "Neither a
borrower nor a lender be"
I dislike Peggy and have for many an episode.
Mike Ruddock
I used to like her. She was very good with the secondJack. She put up
with the first and managed the pub and brought up two children.
<cough> three children
DINTAFPOU?
You think Tony ever grew up?
I think this is a fine example of why he is often feels overlooked, not
just by his family but now, apparently, by umrats. No wonder he's always
been such a moany git. No PTF at work here, even as a child he struck me as
a bit thick.
Post by John Ashby
Or any of them, come to that.
Jennifer and Lilian both occasionally display their brattish sides but both
have been through a lot one way or another.

Lilian's usual response is to hide in a bottle before looking around for
another good time.

Jennifer thinks she deserves some reward for putting up with all the people
she cares and worries about - I think she may be right.
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Mike
2019-08-01 15:06:07 UTC
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Post by Vicky Ayech
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 08:27:42 +0100, Mike Ruddock
Post by Mike Ruddock
Just
in
case
some
folk
don't
read
headers
It seems that Piggy has money invested.
Well of course she does.
Post by Vicky Ayech
Post by Mike Ruddock
We don't know where, though the
implication of her sharp remark to Emma that E didn't know what return P
was getting on her investments is, surely, that the return is good. (I
always have the mantra "big return means high risk")
How well this fits (NOT) with P's pompous Polonian precept "Neither a
borrower nor a lender be"
I dislike Peggy and have for many an episode.
Mike Ruddock
I used to like her. She was very good with the secondJack. She put up
with the first and managed the pub and brought up two children.
<cough> three children
DINTAFPOU?
You think Tony ever grew up?
I think this is a fine example of why he is often feels overlooked, not
just by his family but now, apparently, by umrats. No wonder he's always
been such a moany git. No PTF at work here, even as a child he struck me as
a bit thick.
Post by John Ashby
Or any of them, come to that.
Jennifer and Lilian both occasionally display their brattish sides but both
have been through a lot one way or another.
Lilian's usual response is to hide in a bottle before looking around for
another good time.
Jennifer thinks she deserves some reward for putting up with all the people
she cares and worries about - I think she may be right.
Much of the stress the various girls undergo seem to be caused by the
various naughty boys in Ambridge - perhaps this has always been so....?
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Penny
2019-08-01 16:11:18 UTC
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Post by Vicky Ayech
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 08:27:42 +0100, Mike Ruddock
Post by Mike Ruddock
Just
in
case
some
folk
don't
read
headers
It seems that Piggy has money invested.
Well of course she does.
Post by Vicky Ayech
Post by Mike Ruddock
We don't know where, though the
implication of her sharp remark to Emma that E didn't know what return P
was getting on her investments is, surely, that the return is good. (I
always have the mantra "big return means high risk")
How well this fits (NOT) with P's pompous Polonian precept "Neither a
borrower nor a lender be"
I dislike Peggy and have for many an episode.
Mike Ruddock
I used to like her. She was very good with the secondJack. She put up
with the first and managed the pub and brought up two children.
<cough> three children
DINTAFPOU?
You think Tony ever grew up?
I think this is a fine example of why he is often feels overlooked, not
just by his family but now, apparently, by umrats. No wonder he's always
been such a moany git. No PTF at work here, even as a child he struck me as
a bit thick.
Post by John Ashby
Or any of them, come to that.
Jennifer and Lilian both occasionally display their brattish sides but both
have been through a lot one way or another.
Lilian's usual response is to hide in a bottle before looking around for
another good time.
Jennifer thinks she deserves some reward for putting up with all the people
she cares and worries about - I think she may be right.
Much of the stress the various girls undergo seem to be caused by the
various naughty boys in Ambridge - perhaps this has always been so....?
[Resisting the urge to bridle at 'girls'] This seems to be the way of the
world - although, like all sweeping generalisations, it's bound to be wrong
;)
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Jim Easterbrook
2019-08-01 16:51:05 UTC
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Jennifer thinks she deserves some reward for putting up with all the
people she cares and worries about - I think she may be right.
The Aldridge millions are quite a lot of reward, even if somewhat
diminished recently.
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SODAM
2019-08-01 11:12:07 UTC
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On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 08:27:42 +0100, Mike Ruddock
Post by Mike Ruddock
I dislike Peggy and have for many an episode.
Mike Ruddock
I used to like her. She was very good with the secondJack. She put up
with the first and managed the pub and brought up two children. She
has been supportive of Jenny and Lilian and a good and generous
grandmother. ButI thought when she fired Emma that was the PTF as
itwasdone with no notice and making Emma do the hardest stuff that day
and no compensation. She knew how much Emma needed the money. A pay
off would have meant little to her. And the scene with neither a
borrower or lender be was callous. As for Krait.....I hope there is
karma waiting. Surely one day bad has to happen? And nuggering good
for Ed?
YANAOU. That is three of us agreed. How many likeable characters are there
left in Ambridge, aside from Clarrie, Rex, Lily, Harrison Fallon and Ed?
The rest have all been touched by the PTF lately. I used to like many of
the others that we never hear from nowadays. Even Rory (not going in for
the other spelling) and Ben seem to be being lined up for teenage
delinquency. Which other characters do umrats still like?

When the scriptwriters have alienated everyone and episodes consist solely
of people shouting at each other, sobbing or being mean in some way,
perhaps I’ll give up listening. It’s not much joy at present.
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Mike
2019-08-01 11:51:43 UTC
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SODAM <***@talktalk.net> wrote:
. Which other characters do umrats still like?
Post by SODAM
When the scriptwriters have alienated everyone and episodes consist solely
of people shouting at each other, sobbing or being mean in some way,
perhaps I’ll give up listening. It’s not much joy at present.
I think we could manage to listen-on if we just have:

Higgs, Jamie, the residents of The Laurels, Kathy, Jean Harvey..... only
problem is we might have to turn the volume up 60+ dB.......
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J. P. Gilliver (John)
2019-08-01 14:53:48 UTC
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Post by Vicky Ayech
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 08:27:42 +0100, Mike Ruddock
Post by Mike Ruddock
I dislike Peggy and have for many an episode.
Mike Ruddock
I used to like her. She was very good with the secondJack. She put up
with the first and managed the pub and brought up two children. She
has been supportive of Jenny and Lilian and a good and generous
grandmother.
I was rather pleased when she started to become a _bit_ curmudgeonly -
rather than just being "nice granny", a bit of a soft touch. Though ...
Post by SODAM
Post by Vicky Ayech
ButI thought when she fired Emma that was the PTF as
... most definitely PTF.
Post by SODAM
Post by Vicky Ayech
itwasdone with no notice and making Emma do the hardest stuff that day
and no compensation. She knew how much Emma needed the money. A pay
off would have meant little to her. And the scene with neither a
borrower or lender be was callous.
She was startled. I agree she seemed callous, but I thought her reaction
_believable_, even if not necessarily commendable.
Post by SODAM
Post by Vicky Ayech
As for Krait.....I hope there is
karma waiting. Surely one day bad has to happen?
Like Matt, Rob, Hazel, and Susan's brother, I'd not miss her. No good.
Post by SODAM
Post by Vicky Ayech
And nuggering good
for Ed?
That would indeed be good.
Post by SODAM
YANAOU. That is three of us agreed. How many likeable characters are there
left in Ambridge, aside from Clarrie, Rex, Lily, Harrison Fallon and Ed?
Surprisingly, I'd now nominate Jim; when he first joined us, he was
really very nasty to Al and Shula, but seemed to mellow (even before the
current storyline; in that, original Jim would have been a lot ruder to
Shula than he has been). Sometimes _mischievous_, mind. And the current
storyline he's likely to lash out - but look at what he did with L*nda;
was nasty, but subsequently apologised, and I think genuinely.

And L*nda is basically good-intentioned, though often misguided - and
also subject to, not exactly PTF, but a handy butt for lazy SWing.

Robert, when we once-in-a-blue-moon hear him. Oliver ditto. Jill? Pip?
Post by SODAM
The rest have all been touched by the PTF lately. I used to like many of
the others that we never hear from nowadays. Even Rory (not going in for
the other spelling) and Ben seem to be being lined up for teenage
delinquency. Which other characters do umrats still like?
When the scriptwriters have alienated everyone and episodes consist solely
of people shouting at each other, sobbing or being mean in some way,
That sounds like Eastenders.
Post by SODAM
perhaps I’ll give up listening. It’s not much joy at present.
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religion, in passing), April 2013.
Steve Hague
2019-08-02 10:40:01 UTC
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On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 08:27:42 +0100, Mike Ruddock
Post by Mike Ruddock
I dislike Peggy and have for many an episode.
Mike Ruddock
I used to like her. She was very good with the secondJack. She put up
with the first and managed the pub and brought up two children. She
has been supportive of Jenny and Lilian and a good and generous
grandmother. ButI thought when she fired Emma that was the PTF as
itwasdone with no notice and making Emma do the hardest stuff that day
and no compensation. She knew how much Emma needed the money. A pay
off would have meant little to her. And the scene with neither a
borrower or lender be was callous. As for Krait.....I hope there is
karma waiting. Surely one day bad has to happen? And nuggering good
for Ed?
YANAOU. That is three of us agreed. How many likeable characters are there
left in Ambridge, aside from Clarrie, Rex, Lily, Harrison Fallon and Ed?
The rest have all been touched by the PTF lately. I used to like many of
the others that we never hear from nowadays. Even Rory (not going in for
the other spelling) and Ben seem to be being lined up for teenage
delinquency. Which other characters do umrats still like?
When the scriptwriters have alienated everyone and episodes consist solely
of people shouting at each other, sobbing or being mean in some way,
perhaps I’ll give up listening. It’s not much joy at present.
I've not listened for a couple of years, but I used to like Alan and
Usha. Oliver too.
Steve
Mike Headon
2019-08-02 11:21:59 UTC
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On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 08:27:42 +0100, Mike Ruddock
Post by Mike Ruddock
I dislike Peggy and have for many an episode.
Mike Ruddock
I used to like her. She was very good with the secondJack. She put up
with the first and managed the pub and brought up two children. She
has been supportive of Jenny and Lilian and a good and generous
grandmother. ButI thought when she fired Emma that was the PTF as
itwasdone with no notice and making Emma do the hardest stuff that day
and no compensation. She knew how much Emma needed the money. A pay
off would have meant little to her.  And the scene with neither a
borrower or lender be was callous. As for Krait.....I hope there is
karma waiting.  Surely one day bad has to happen? And nuggering good
for Ed?
YANAOU. That is three of us agreed. How many likeable characters are there
left in Ambridge, aside from Clarrie, Rex, Lily, Harrison Fallon and Ed?
The rest have all been touched by the PTF lately. I used to like many of
the others that we never hear from nowadays. Even Rory (not going in for
the other spelling)  and Ben seem to be being lined up for teenage
delinquency. Which other characters do umrats still like?
When the scriptwriters have alienated everyone and episodes consist solely
of people shouting at each other, sobbing or being mean in some way,
perhaps I’ll give up listening. It’s not much joy at present.
I've not listened for a couple of years, but I used to like Alan and
Usha. Oliver too.
Steve
Could somebody please remind me what PTF is? In my world it was "Program
(sic) Temporary Fix".
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Steve Hague
2019-08-02 11:25:08 UTC
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Post by Mike Ruddock
I dislike Peggy and have for many an episode.
Mike Ruddock
I used to like her. She was very good with the secondJack. She put up
with the first and managed the pub and brought up two children. She
has been supportive of Jenny and Lilian and a good and generous
grandmother. ButI thought when she fired Emma that was the PTF as
itwasdone with no notice and making Emma do the hardest stuff that day
and no compensation. She knew how much Emma needed the money. A pay
off would have meant little to her.  And the scene with neither a
borrower or lender be was callous. As for Krait.....I hope there is
karma waiting.  Surely one day bad has to happen? And nuggering good
for Ed?
YANAOU. That is three of us agreed. How many likeable characters are there
left in Ambridge, aside from Clarrie, Rex, Lily, Harrison Fallon and Ed?
The rest have all been touched by the PTF lately. I used to like many of
the others that we never hear from nowadays. Even Rory (not going in for
the other spelling)  and Ben seem to be being lined up for teenage
delinquency. Which other characters do umrats still like?
When the scriptwriters have alienated everyone and episodes consist solely
of people shouting at each other, sobbing or being mean in some way,
perhaps I’ll give up listening. It’s not much joy at present.
I've not listened for a couple of years, but I used to like Alan and
Usha. Oliver too.
Steve
Could somebody please remind me what PTF is? In my world it was "Program
(sic) Temporary Fix".
Personality Transplant Fairy.
Mike
2019-08-02 11:56:58 UTC
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On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 08:27:42 +0100, Mike Ruddock
Post by Mike Ruddock
I dislike Peggy and have for many an episode.
Mike Ruddock
I used to like her. She was very good with the secondJack. She put up
with the first and managed the pub and brought up two children. She
has been supportive of Jenny and Lilian and a good and generous
grandmother. ButI thought when she fired Emma that was the PTF as
itwasdone with no notice and making Emma do the hardest stuff that day
and no compensation. She knew how much Emma needed the money. A pay
off would have meant little to her.  And the scene with neither a
borrower or lender be was callous. As for Krait.....I hope there is
karma waiting.  Surely one day bad has to happen? And nuggering good
for Ed?
YANAOU. That is three of us agreed. How many likeable characters are there
left in Ambridge, aside from Clarrie, Rex, Lily, Harrison Fallon and Ed?
The rest have all been touched by the PTF lately. I used to like many of
the others that we never hear from nowadays. Even Rory (not going in for
the other spelling)  and Ben seem to be being lined up for teenage
delinquency. Which other characters do umrats still like?
When the scriptwriters have alienated everyone and episodes consist solely
of people shouting at each other, sobbing or being mean in some way,
perhaps I’ll give up listening. It’s not much joy at present.
I've not listened for a couple of years, but I used to like Alan and
Usha. Oliver too.
Steve
Could somebody please remind me what PTF is? In my world it was "Program
(sic) Temporary Fix".
Personality Transplant Fairy
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Nick Odell
2019-08-02 13:57:03 UTC
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On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 08:27:42 +0100, Mike Ruddock
Post by Mike Ruddock
I dislike Peggy and have for many an episode.
Mike Ruddock
I used to like her. She was very good with the secondJack. She put up
with the first and managed the pub and brought up two children. She
has been supportive of Jenny and Lilian and a good and generous
grandmother. ButI thought when she fired Emma that was the PTF as
itwasdone with no notice and making Emma do the hardest stuff that day
and no compensation. She knew how much Emma needed the money. A pay
off would have meant little to her.  And the scene with neither a
borrower or lender be was callous. As for Krait.....I hope there is
karma waiting.  Surely one day bad has to happen? And nuggering good
for Ed?
YANAOU. That is three of us agreed. How many likeable characters are there
left in Ambridge, aside from Clarrie, Rex, Lily, Harrison Fallon and Ed?
The rest have all been touched by the PTF lately. I used to like many of
the others that we never hear from nowadays. Even Rory (not going in for
the other spelling)  and Ben seem to be being lined up for teenage
delinquency. Which other characters do umrats still like?
When the scriptwriters have alienated everyone and episodes consist solely
of people shouting at each other, sobbing or being mean in some way,
perhaps I’ll give up listening. It’s not much joy at present.
I've not listened for a couple of years, but I used to like Alan and
Usha. Oliver too.
Steve
Could somebody please remind me what PTF is? In my world it was "Program
(sic) Temporary Fix".
Personality Transplant Fairy
Which reminds me that I stumbled upon
http://www.umra.freeuk.com/nicks.html the other day[1]. Still up and
running - but you probably all knew that.
Anhttp://www.umra.freeuk.com/nicks.htmld it pre-dates PTF anyway.

Nick
[1]Liliana was asking how come SODAM is called SODAM and I'm ashamed to
say that I had forgotten and had to look it up
Mike
2019-08-02 14:38:14 UTC
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On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 08:27:42 +0100, Mike Ruddock
Post by Mike Ruddock
I dislike Peggy and have for many an episode.
Mike Ruddock
I used to like her. She was very good with the secondJack. She put up
with the first and managed the pub and brought up two children. She
has been supportive of Jenny and Lilian and a good and generous
grandmother. ButI thought when she fired Emma that was the PTF as
itwasdone with no notice and making Emma do the hardest stuff that day
and no compensation. She knew how much Emma needed the money. A pay
off would have meant little to her.  And the scene with neither a
borrower or lender be was callous. As for Krait.....I hope there is
karma waiting.  Surely one day bad has to happen? And nuggering good
for Ed?
YANAOU. That is three of us agreed. How many likeable characters are there
left in Ambridge, aside from Clarrie, Rex, Lily, Harrison Fallon and Ed?
The rest have all been touched by the PTF lately. I used to like many of
the others that we never hear from nowadays. Even Rory (not going in for
the other spelling)  and Ben seem to be being lined up for teenage
delinquency. Which other characters do umrats still like?
When the scriptwriters have alienated everyone and episodes consist solely
of people shouting at each other, sobbing or being mean in some way,
perhaps I’ll give up listening. It’s not much joy at present.
I've not listened for a couple of years, but I used to like Alan and
Usha. Oliver too.
Steve
Could somebody please remind me what PTF is? In my world it was "Program
(sic) Temporary Fix".
Personality Transplant Fairy
Which reminds me that I stumbled upon
http://www.umra.freeuk.com/nicks.html the other day[1]. Still up and
running - but you probably all knew that.
Anhttp://www.umra.freeuk.com/nicks.htmld it pre-dates PTF anyway.
Nick
[1]Liliana was asking how come SODAM is called SODAM and I'm ashamed to
say that I had forgotten and had to look it up
In which case, I hope she doesn’t ask you to explain ‘NAPPIES and BURPS’
then!
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Penny
2019-08-02 17:47:08 UTC
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Which reminds me that I stumbled upon
http://www.umra.freeuk.com/nicks.html the other day[1]. Still up and
running - but you probably all knew that.
Anhttp://www.umra.freeuk.com/nicks.htmld it pre-dates PTF anyway.
Yes, it's years since I updated it, I'd have to revive the old modem and
use dial-up to get in there I think. I'm surprised freeuk (a subsidiary of
calaranet IIRC) still exists and haven't bothered to take these things
down.
Post by Nick Odell
[1]Liliana was asking how come SODAM is called SODAM and I'm ashamed to
say that I had forgotten and had to look it up
Pleased it's still useful.
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J. P. Gilliver (John)
2019-08-03 01:49:39 UTC
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Post by Mike Headon
Could somebody please remind me what PTF is? In my world it was "Program
(sic) Temporary Fix".
Personality Transplant Fairy
Where a character changes personality, usually suddenly and jarringly,
though sometimes after an absence. Like if Clarrie's axe-murdering side
suddenly came to light, or Brian became generous and eco-friendly.
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Mike Headon
2019-08-03 09:17:54 UTC
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Post by Mike Headon
Could somebody please remind me what PTF is? In my world it was "Program
(sic) Temporary Fix".
Personality Transplant Fairy
Where a character changes personality, usually suddenly and jarringly,
though sometimes after an absence. Like if Clarrie's axe-murdering side
suddenly came to light, or Brian became generous and eco-friendly.
Thanks, everyone, I'll try to remember!
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Chris McMillan
2019-08-02 17:14:26 UTC
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On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 08:27:42 +0100, Mike Ruddock
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I dislike Peggy and have for many an episode.
Mike Ruddock
I used to like her. She was very good with the secondJack. She put up
with the first and managed the pub and brought up two children. She
has been supportive of Jenny and Lilian and a good and generous
grandmother. ButI thought when she fired Emma that was the PTF as
itwasdone with no notice and making Emma do the hardest stuff that day
and no compensation. She knew how much Emma needed the money. A pay
off would have meant little to her. And the scene with neither a
borrower or lender be was callous. As for Krait.....I hope there is
karma waiting. Surely one day bad has to happen? And nuggering good
for Ed?
YANAOU. That is three of us agreed. How many likeable characters are there
left in Ambridge, aside from Clarrie, Rex, Lily, Harrison Fallon and Ed?
The rest have all been touched by the PTF lately. I used to like many of
the others that we never hear from nowadays. Even Rory (not going in for
the other spelling) and Ben seem to be being lined up for teenage
delinquency. Which other characters do umrats still like?
When the scriptwriters have alienated everyone and episodes consist solely
of people shouting at each other, sobbing or being mean in some way,
perhaps I’ll give up listening. It’s not much joy at present.
I've not listened for a couple of years, but I used to like Alan and
Usha. Oliver too.
Steve
Robert. A gentleman.

Sincerely Chris
Fenny
2019-08-02 21:15:11 UTC
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When the scriptwriters have alienated everyone and episodes consist solely
of people shouting at each other, sobbing or being mean in some way,
This pretty much sums up my feelings about most uk television in the
last 10 years...
Post by SODAM
perhaps I’ll give up listening. It’s not much joy at present.
...and is why I haven't bothered with a TV licence for most of the
last 9 years. It's probably more than 12 months since I stopped
listening to TA, and I really haven't missed it.
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Fenny
steveski
2019-08-03 00:44:18 UTC
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When the scriptwriters have alienated everyone and episodes consist
solely of people shouting at each other, sobbing or being mean in some
way,
This pretty much sums up my feelings about most uk television in the
last 10 years...
Post by SODAM
perhaps I’ll give up listening. It’s not much joy at present.
...and is why I haven't bothered with a TV licence for most of the last
9 years. It's probably more than 12 months since I stopped listening to
TA, and I really haven't missed it.
I never thought that I would consider stopping listening but it's getting
too 'soapy' . . .
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Steveski
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