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Chris McMillan
2019-11-11 19:09:56 UTC
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My heart bleeds (never)

Sincerely Chris
Vicky Ayech
2019-11-11 21:38:16 UTC
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On Mon, 11 Nov 2019 19:09:56 GMT, Chris McMillan
Post by Chris McMillan
My heart bleeds (never)
Sincerely Chris
Yes that was really annoying.
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Just a faint hope she was not really sympathising but trying to find
if Russ was dragging his heels on the divorce so shoe could advise
Lily and help break it up. But sadly she sounded too genuine and
still feels she owes him one for when she panicked inthe store he
dragged her into so she could pay for stuff for him.

The Fall of Jill was somehow a bit of a non-event. I hope she is not
ok about about to slide downhill. Old ladies do break arms. I did. And
then they are found to have osteoporosis and are in danger of breaking
bigger bones like hips, which does lead to a rapid demise.

The spoiler about a shock for David was a bit pants, wasn't it? Hasn't
Lenard been sleeping over for months? Didn't David run into him one
morning? Or am I confusing him with Autumn?
Vicky Ayech
2019-11-11 21:40:20 UTC
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On Mon, 11 Nov 2019 21:38:16 +0000, Vicky Ayech
Post by Vicky Ayech
On Mon, 11 Nov 2019 19:09:56 GMT, Chris McMillan
Post by Chris McMillan
My heart bleeds (never)
Sincerely Chris
Yes that was really annoying.
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Just a faint hope she was not really sympathising but trying to find
if Russ was dragging his heels on the divorce so shoe could advise
Lily and help break it up. But sadly she sounded too genuine and
still feels she owes him one for when she panicked inthe store he
dragged her into so she could pay for stuff for him.
The Fall of Jill was somehow a bit of a non-event. I hope she is
I hope she IS ok and is NOT about to slide downhill, whether
fromanother fall or generally.
not
Post by Vicky Ayech
ok about about to slide downhill. Old ladies do break arms. I did. And
then they are found to have osteoporosis and are in danger of breaking
bigger bones like hips, which does lead to a rapid demise.
The spoiler about a shock for David was a bit pants, wasn't it? Hasn't
Lenard been sleeping over for months? Didn't David run into him one
morning? Or am I confusing him with Autumn?
William McNicol
2019-11-11 21:40:42 UTC
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The Fall of Jill was somehow a bit of a non-event.
I didn't think so. I thought I heard wedding bells ringing in the distance...
BrritSki
2019-11-12 08:25:31 UTC
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Post by Vicky Ayech
The Fall of Jill was somehow a bit of a non-event.
I didn't think so. I thought I heard wedding bells ringing in the distance...
Is the Fall of Jill to do with breaking her arm or cormoranting with
Lenny ? ITWSBT

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Serena Blanchflower
2019-11-12 10:34:47 UTC
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The Fall of Jill was somehow a bit of a non-event.
I didn't think so.  I thought I heard wedding bells ringing in the
distance...
Likewise.
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Is the Fall of Jill to do with breaking her arm or cormoranting with
Lenny ?  ITWSBT
PS  Are you new ?  If so, welcome - a new=rat is a rare event these
days. If not, of hello Matron, is that my Alzheimer's medicine ?
And again.
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Mike
2019-11-12 10:42:43 UTC
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Post by Vicky Ayech
The Fall of Jill was somehow a bit of a non-event.
I didn't think so.  I thought I heard wedding bells ringing in the
distance...
Likewise.
Post by BrritSki
Is the Fall of Jill to do with breaking her arm or cormoranting with
Lenny ?  ITWSBT
PS  Are you new ?  If so, welcome - a new=rat is a rare event these
days. If not, of hello Matron, is that my Alzheimer's medicine ?
And again.
Also
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carolet
2019-11-12 09:03:38 UTC
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Post by Vicky Ayech
The Fall of Jill was somehow a bit of a non-event.
I didn't think so. I thought I heard wedding bells ringing in the distance...
Yes, when she said that the nurse had thought that he was her husband, I
thought that was the first distant tinkle of a wedding bell.
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Chris McMillan
2019-11-12 17:03:03 UTC
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Post by Vicky Ayech
The Fall of Jill was somehow a bit of a non-event.
I didn't think so. I thought I heard wedding bells ringing in the distance...
Well, Deavud won’t be liking that, never mind the Saint and Lizzie. Only
Kenton will back her (but then he knows how to keep on his mum’s side: he’s
not averse to sweet talking her in his hours of need).

Sincerely Chris
Mike
2019-11-12 17:08:16 UTC
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Post by Vicky Ayech
The Fall of Jill was somehow a bit of a non-event.
I didn't think so. I thought I heard wedding bells ringing in the distance...
Well, Deavud won’t be liking that, never mind the Saint and Lizzie. Only
Kenton will back her (but then he knows how to keep on his mum’s side: he’s
not averse to sweet talking her in his hours of need).
Sincerely Chris
Nah, Jill is a moddun woman now, she will shack up with Lenny and avoid all
this marriage nonsense!
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carolet
2019-11-12 17:13:28 UTC
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Post by Vicky Ayech
The Fall of Jill was somehow a bit of a non-event.
I didn't think so. I thought I heard wedding bells ringing in the distance...
Well, Deavud won’t be liking that, never mind the Saint and Lizzie. Only
Kenton will back her (but then he knows how to keep on his mum’s side: he’s
not averse to sweet talking her in his hours of need).
Sincerely Chris
Nah, Jill is a moddun woman now, she will shack up with Lenny and avoid all
this marriage nonsense!
Maybe a civil partnership.
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Mike
2019-11-12 17:13:33 UTC
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Post by Chris McMillan
Post by William McNicol
Post by Vicky Ayech
The Fall of Jill was somehow a bit of a non-event.
I didn't think so. I thought I heard wedding bells ringing in the distance...
Well, Deavud won’t be liking that, never mind the Saint and Lizzie. Only
Kenton will back her (but then he knows how to keep on his mum’s side: he’s
not averse to sweet talking her in his hours of need).
Sincerely Chris
Nah, Jill is a moddun woman now, she will shack up with Lenny and avoid all
this marriage nonsense!
And anyone who disagrees, well look out for as soon as that sprain has
mended, there will be another bunch of ammo err... I mean flapjack in the
oven...
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Serena Blanchflower
2019-11-12 10:33:24 UTC
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Post by Vicky Ayech
On Mon, 11 Nov 2019 19:09:56 GMT, Chris McMillan
Post by Chris McMillan
My heart bleeds (never)
Sincerely Chris
Yes that was really annoying.
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Just a faint hope she was not really sympathising but trying to find
if Russ was dragging his heels on the divorce so shoe could advise
Lily and help break it up. But sadly she sounded too genuine and
still feels she owes him one for when she panicked inthe store he
dragged her into so she could pay for stuff for him.
Russ's comments about his divorce left me wondering what grounds he has
for divorce. He can't divorce his wife on the basis of his own adultery
with Lily; if he wants that to be the basis for the divorce, she will
have to divorce him. It's possible that he has good reason to divorce
her, on the basis of her unreasonable behaviour but, if so, we've never
heard what that might be.
Post by Vicky Ayech
The Fall of Jill was somehow a bit of a non-event. I hope she is not
ok about about to slide downhill. Old ladies do break arms. I did. And
then they are found to have osteoporosis and are in danger of breaking
bigger bones like hips, which does lead to a rapid demise.
Yes, they do, but Jill didn't. Her wrist is only sprained. Like a few
other people, I think this is more likely to push Leonard and Jill
towards marriage, rather than the start of Jill's deterioration.
Post by Vicky Ayech
The spoiler about a shock for David was a bit pants, wasn't it? Hasn't
Lenard been sleeping over for months? Didn't David run into him one
morning? Or am I confusing him with Autumn?
Yes, I think you're confusing him with Autumn. IIRC, the SWs were
teasing us with a certain amount of are they / aren't they but it was
only actually Autumn who was staying over.
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Mike
2019-11-12 10:44:19 UTC
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Post by Vicky Ayech
On Mon, 11 Nov 2019 19:09:56 GMT, Chris McMillan
Post by Chris McMillan
My heart bleeds (never)
Sincerely Chris
Yes that was really annoying.
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Just a faint hope she was not really sympathising but trying to find
if Russ was dragging his heels on the divorce so shoe could advise
Lily and help break it up. But sadly she sounded too genuine and
still feels she owes him one for when she panicked inthe store he
dragged her into so she could pay for stuff for him.
Russ's comments about his divorce left me wondering what grounds he has
for divorce. He can't divorce his wife on the basis of his own adultery
with Lily; if he wants that to be the basis for the divorce, she will
have to divorce him. It's possible that he has good reason to divorce
her, on the basis of her unreasonable behaviour but, if so, we've never
heard what that might be.
Post by Vicky Ayech
The Fall of Jill was somehow a bit of a non-event. I hope she is not
ok about about to slide downhill. Old ladies do break arms. I did. And
then they are found to have osteoporosis and are in danger of breaking
bigger bones like hips, which does lead to a rapid demise.
Yes, they do, but Jill didn't. Her wrist is only sprained. Like a few
other people, I think this is more likely to push Leonard and Jill
towards marriage, rather than the start of Jill's deterioration.
Post by Vicky Ayech
The spoiler about a shock for David was a bit pants, wasn't it? Hasn't
Lenard been sleeping over for months? Didn't David run into him one
morning? Or am I confusing him with Autumn?
Yes, I think you're confusing him with Autumn. IIRC, the SWs were
teasing us with a certain amount of are they / aren't they but it was
only actually Autumn who was staying over.
Autumn? Whoosh.
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Serena Blanchflower
2019-11-12 10:58:24 UTC
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On Mon, 11 Nov 2019 19:09:56 GMT, Chris McMillan
Post by Chris McMillan
My heart bleeds (never)
Sincerely Chris
Yes that was really annoying.
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Just a faint hope she was not really sympathising but trying to find
if Russ was dragging his heels on the divorce so shoe could advise
Lily and help break it up. But sadly she sounded too genuine and
still feels she owes him one for when she panicked inthe store he
dragged her into so she could pay for stuff for him.
Russ's comments about his divorce left me wondering what grounds he has
for divorce. He can't divorce his wife on the basis of his own adultery
with Lily; if he wants that to be the basis for the divorce, she will
have to divorce him. It's possible that he has good reason to divorce
her, on the basis of her unreasonable behaviour but, if so, we've never
heard what that might be.
Post by Vicky Ayech
The Fall of Jill was somehow a bit of a non-event. I hope she is not
ok about about to slide downhill. Old ladies do break arms. I did. And
then they are found to have osteoporosis and are in danger of breaking
bigger bones like hips, which does lead to a rapid demise.
Yes, they do, but Jill didn't. Her wrist is only sprained. Like a few
other people, I think this is more likely to push Leonard and Jill
towards marriage, rather than the start of Jill's deterioration.
Post by Vicky Ayech
The spoiler about a shock for David was a bit pants, wasn't it? Hasn't
Lenard been sleeping over for months? Didn't David run into him one
morning? Or am I confusing him with Autumn?
Yes, I think you're confusing him with Autumn. IIRC, the SWs were
teasing us with a certain amount of are they / aren't they but it was
only actually Autumn who was staying over.
Autumn? Whoosh.
Josh's girlfriend.
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Smile, breathe and go slowly (Thich Nhat Hanh)
Mike
2019-11-12 11:05:05 UTC
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Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by Vicky Ayech
On Mon, 11 Nov 2019 19:09:56 GMT, Chris McMillan
Post by Chris McMillan
My heart bleeds (never)
Sincerely Chris
Yes that was really annoying.
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Just a faint hope she was not really sympathising but trying to find
if Russ was dragging his heels on the divorce so shoe could advise
Lily and help break it up. But sadly she sounded too genuine and
still feels she owes him one for when she panicked inthe store he
dragged her into so she could pay for stuff for him.
Russ's comments about his divorce left me wondering what grounds he has
for divorce. He can't divorce his wife on the basis of his own adultery
with Lily; if he wants that to be the basis for the divorce, she will
have to divorce him. It's possible that he has good reason to divorce
her, on the basis of her unreasonable behaviour but, if so, we've never
heard what that might be.
Post by Vicky Ayech
The Fall of Jill was somehow a bit of a non-event. I hope she is not
ok about about to slide downhill. Old ladies do break arms. I did. And
then they are found to have osteoporosis and are in danger of breaking
bigger bones like hips, which does lead to a rapid demise.
Yes, they do, but Jill didn't. Her wrist is only sprained. Like a few
other people, I think this is more likely to push Leonard and Jill
towards marriage, rather than the start of Jill's deterioration.
Post by Vicky Ayech
The spoiler about a shock for David was a bit pants, wasn't it? Hasn't
Lenard been sleeping over for months? Didn't David run into him one
morning? Or am I confusing him with Autumn?
Yes, I think you're confusing him with Autumn. IIRC, the SWs were
teasing us with a certain amount of are they / aren't they but it was
only actually Autumn who was staying over.
Autumn? Whoosh.
Josh's girlfriend.
Oh! Thank you, I had forgotten all about that brief addition to the cast
and had not even registered the name.
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Jenny M Benson
2019-11-12 11:47:28 UTC
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Autumn? Whoosh.
Yes, it didn't last long this year, did it? Snow here on Saturday and
bitterly cold yesterday. Wet again to-day.
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Vicky Ayech
2019-11-12 17:59:17 UTC
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Post by Mike
Autumn? Whoosh.
Yes, it didn't last long this year, did it? Snow here on Saturday
Please keep it to yourself. We talked about snow yesterday when I was
babysitting and granddaughter is very pro but I hate it.
Post by Jenny M Benson
and
bitterly cold yesterday. Wet again to-day.
Mike
2019-11-12 10:57:01 UTC
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Post by Vicky Ayech
On Mon, 11 Nov 2019 19:09:56 GMT, Chris McMillan
Post by Chris McMillan
My heart bleeds (never)
Sincerely Chris
Yes that was really annoying.
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Just a faint hope she was not really sympathising but trying to find
if Russ was dragging his heels on the divorce so shoe could advise
Lily and help break it up. But sadly she sounded too genuine and
still feels she owes him one for when she panicked inthe store he
dragged her into so she could pay for stuff for him.
Russ's comments about his divorce left me wondering what grounds he has
for divorce. He can't divorce his wife on the basis of his own adultery
with Lily; if he wants that to be the basis for the divorce, she will
have to divorce him. It's possible that he has good reason to divorce
her, on the basis of her unreasonable behaviour but, if so, we've never
heard what that might be.
Russ had explained to Lara, that the pile of unwashed soup tins in the
middle of the living room carpet topped with shredded soggy magazines was a
statement of materialistic progressive excess that transcends consumerism
and ethnic dominance of the oppressed black tomato and downsized pulp tree
by printer’s ink whilst at the same time, clearly illustrating that she had
not the faintest concept of his inner feelings towards life, the universe
and everything; under such strained circumstances, the only solution was
the dissolution of their marital status towards one another. He had had
high hopes but now realises that she is just like the rest and does not
understand him in his endeavours to ... contd. on P94.
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Sally Thompson
2019-11-12 15:51:50 UTC
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Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by Vicky Ayech
On Mon, 11 Nov 2019 19:09:56 GMT, Chris McMillan
Post by Chris McMillan
My heart bleeds (never)
Sincerely Chris
Yes that was really annoying.
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Just a faint hope she was not really sympathising but trying to find
if Russ was dragging his heels on the divorce so shoe could advise
Lily and help break it up. But sadly she sounded too genuine and
still feels she owes him one for when she panicked inthe store he
dragged her into so she could pay for stuff for him.
Russ's comments about his divorce left me wondering what grounds he has
for divorce. He can't divorce his wife on the basis of his own adultery
with Lily; if he wants that to be the basis for the divorce, she will
have to divorce him. It's possible that he has good reason to divorce
her, on the basis of her unreasonable behaviour but, if so, we've never
heard what that might be.
Russ had explained to Lara, that the pile of unwashed soup tins in the
middle of the living room carpet topped with shredded soggy magazines was a
statement of materialistic progressive excess that transcends consumerism
and ethnic dominance of the oppressed black tomato and downsized pulp tree
by printer’s ink whilst at the same time, clearly illustrating that she had
not the faintest concept of his inner feelings towards life, the universe
and everything; under such strained circumstances, the only solution was
the dissolution of their marital status towards one another. He had had
high hopes but now realises that she is just like the rest and does not
understand him in his endeavours to ... contd. on P94.
Bravo!
You are a closet SW and I claim my 5 farthings.
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BrritSki
2019-11-12 17:38:23 UTC
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Bravo!
You are a closet SW and I claim my 5 farthings.
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Mike
2019-11-12 17:47:45 UTC
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Bravo!
You are a closet SW and I claim my 5 farthings.
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YAthebellsofSt.MartinsAICM5dingdongs
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Nick Odell
2019-11-12 15:04:56 UTC
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On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 10:33:24 +0000, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Russ's comments about his divorce left me wondering what grounds he has
for divorce. He can't divorce his wife on the basis of his own adultery
with Lily; if he wants that to be the basis for the divorce, she will
have to divorce him. It's possible that he has good reason to divorce
her, on the basis of her unreasonable behaviour but, if so, we've never
heard what that might be.
Hasn't that been swept away by no-fault divorce for all? Or was that
yet another bit of proposed legislation that didn't make it through
the process thanks to Brexit?

Nick
Serena Blanchflower
2019-11-12 16:00:57 UTC
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On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 10:33:24 +0000, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Russ's comments about his divorce left me wondering what grounds he has
for divorce. He can't divorce his wife on the basis of his own adultery
with Lily; if he wants that to be the basis for the divorce, she will
have to divorce him. It's possible that he has good reason to divorce
her, on the basis of her unreasonable behaviour but, if so, we've never
heard what that might be.
Hasn't that been swept away by no-fault divorce for all? Or was that
yet another bit of proposed legislation that didn't make it through
the process thanks to Brexit?
I'm pretty sure that didn't make it through parliament. I have no idea
whether it's on any / all of the parties' wish lists for the election.
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it on, I go to the library and read a good book (Groucho Marx)
Mike
2019-11-12 16:12:29 UTC
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Post by Nick Odell
On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 10:33:24 +0000, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Russ's comments about his divorce left me wondering what grounds he has
for divorce. He can't divorce his wife on the basis of his own adultery
with Lily; if he wants that to be the basis for the divorce, she will
have to divorce him. It's possible that he has good reason to divorce
her, on the basis of her unreasonable behaviour but, if so, we've never
heard what that might be.
Hasn't that been swept away by no-fault divorce for all? Or was that
yet another bit of proposed legislation that didn't make it through
the process thanks to Brexit?
I'm pretty sure that didn't make it through parliament. I have no idea
whether it's on any / all of the parties' wish lists for the election.
If the total cost is less than £25bn, forget it, we are only interested in
grand futile electioneering gestures now...
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Toodle Pip
Sid Nuncius
2019-11-12 18:25:20 UTC
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On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 10:33:24 +0000, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Russ's comments about his divorce left me wondering what grounds he has
for divorce. He can't divorce his wife on the basis of his own adultery
with Lily; if he wants that to be the basis for the divorce, she will
have to divorce him. It's possible that he has good reason to divorce
her, on the basis of her unreasonable behaviour but, if so, we've never
heard what that might be.
Hasn't that been swept away by no-fault divorce for all? Or was that
yet another bit of proposed legislation that didn't make it through
the process thanks to Brexit?
I'm pretty sure that didn't make it through parliament. I have no idea
whether it's on any / all of the parties' wish lists for the election.
If the total cost is less than £25bn, forget it, we are only interested in
grand futile electioneering gestures now...
Pah! I spit on your measly 25bn.

We will fit every home in the UK with a solid gold toilet, make all beer
free at the point of delivery, provide round-the-clock care for everyone
over the age of 40, improve transport links by building a heliport on
every street corner...(cont. p.94 trillion)
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Mike
2019-11-12 18:51:22 UTC
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On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 10:33:24 +0000, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Russ's comments about his divorce left me wondering what grounds he has
for divorce. He can't divorce his wife on the basis of his own adultery
with Lily; if he wants that to be the basis for the divorce, she will
have to divorce him. It's possible that he has good reason to divorce
her, on the basis of her unreasonable behaviour but, if so, we've never
heard what that might be.
Hasn't that been swept away by no-fault divorce for all? Or was that
yet another bit of proposed legislation that didn't make it through
the process thanks to Brexit?
I'm pretty sure that didn't make it through parliament. I have no idea
whether it's on any / all of the parties' wish lists for the election.
If the total cost is less than £25bn, forget it, we are only interested in
grand futile electioneering gestures now...
Pah! I spit on your measly 25bn.
We will fit every home in the UK with a solid gold toilet, make all beer
free at the point of delivery, provide round-the-clock care for everyone
over the age of 40, improve transport links by building a heliport on
every street corner...(cont. p.94 trillion)
Will you promise to adopt a cisternmatic approach to the fitting of the
toilets please? I would hate to think that the roving plumbers might pass
anyone by for, as we all know such artisans flit in and out again to a more
profitable job leaving us with nothing to go on.
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Sam Plusnet
2019-11-12 21:11:51 UTC
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Post by Nick Odell
On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 10:33:24 +0000, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Russ's comments about his divorce left me wondering what grounds he has
for divorce.  He can't divorce his wife on the basis of his own
adultery
with Lily; if he wants that to be the basis for the divorce, she will
have to divorce him.  It's possible that he has good reason to divorce
her, on the basis of her unreasonable behaviour but, if so, we've never
heard what that might be.
Hasn't that been swept away by no-fault divorce for all? Or was that
yet another bit of proposed legislation that didn't make it through
the process thanks to Brexit?
I'm pretty sure that didn't make it through parliament.  I have no idea
whether it's on any / all of the parties' wish lists for the election.
If the total cost is less than £25bn, forget it, we are only
interested in
grand futile electioneering gestures now...
Pah!  I spit on your measly 25bn.
We will fit every home in the UK with a solid gold toilet, make all beer
free at the point of delivery, provide round-the-clock care for everyone
over the age of 40, improve transport links by building a heliport on
every street corner...(cont. p.94 trillion)
Free-Range chicken in every pot?
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J. P. Gilliver (John)
2019-11-12 22:12:40 UTC
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Post by Mike
Post by Nick Odell
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Post by Serena Blanchflower
Russ's comments about his divorce left me wondering what grounds
he has
for divorce.  He can't divorce his wife on the basis of his own
adultery
with Lily; if he wants that to be the basis for the divorce, she will
have to divorce him.  It's possible that he has good reason to divorce
her, on the basis of her unreasonable behaviour but, if so, we've never
heard what that might be.
Hasn't that been swept away by no-fault divorce for all? Or was that
yet another bit of proposed legislation that didn't make it through
the process thanks to Brexit?
I'm pretty sure that didn't make it through parliament.  I have no idea
whether it's on any / all of the parties' wish lists for the election.
If the total cost is less than £25bn, forget it, we are only interested in
grand futile electioneering gestures now...
Pah!  I spit on your measly 25bn.
We will fit every home in the UK with a solid gold toilet, make all
beer free at the point of delivery, provide round-the-clock care for
everyone over the age of 40, improve transport links by building a
heliport on every street corner...(cont. p.94 trillion)
Free-Range chicken in every pot?
Chlorinated, of course. (Personally I can't see what the problem is with
those.)
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Can a blue man sing the whites?
Jim Easterbrook
2019-11-12 22:29:11 UTC
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Chlorinated, of course. (Personally I can't see what the problem is with
those.)
It's a cover for appalling sanitary conditions in battery shed and
slaughterhouse that mean the meat is inevitably contaminated with shit
and needs to be sterilised to make it vaguely fit to eat.

The USA has much higher rates of food poisoning (and deaths from it) than
the UK.
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Jim Easterbrook
2019-11-13 07:35:10 UTC
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It's a cover for appalling sanitary conditions in battery shed
I mean rearing shed of course. Battery implies egg production, which the
USA also does in ways that have been outlawed in the EU.
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Vicky Ayech
2019-11-13 11:05:17 UTC
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Post by Jim Easterbrook
Post by Jim Easterbrook
It's a cover for appalling sanitary conditions in battery shed
I mean rearing shed of course. Battery implies egg production, which the
USA also does in ways that have been outlawed in the EU.
Do battery hens get sold for human food? Perhaps for pies etc?
Penny
2019-11-13 13:18:29 UTC
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scrawled in the dust...
Post by Vicky Ayech
On 13 Nov 2019 07:35:10 GMT, Jim Easterbrook
Post by Jim Easterbrook
Post by Jim Easterbrook
It's a cover for appalling sanitary conditions in battery shed
I mean rearing shed of course. Battery implies egg production, which the
USA also does in ways that have been outlawed in the EU.
Do battery hens get sold for human food? Perhaps for pies etc?
In this area they are frequently rehomed to spend their last days, fully
fledged, pecking around in the garden - and continuing to lay eggs.
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Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959
Vicky Ayech
2019-11-13 13:23:21 UTC
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scrawled in the dust...
Post by Vicky Ayech
On 13 Nov 2019 07:35:10 GMT, Jim Easterbrook
Post by Jim Easterbrook
Post by Jim Easterbrook
It's a cover for appalling sanitary conditions in battery shed
I mean rearing shed of course. Battery implies egg production, which the
USA also does in ways that have been outlawed in the EU.
Do battery hens get sold for human food? Perhaps for pies etc?
In this area they are frequently rehomed to spend their last days, fully
fledged, pecking around in the garden - and continuing to lay eggs.
Oh yes, I looked into doing htat but we decided the garden is not big
enough and already had 2 cats and 2 dogs at the time.
Mike
2019-11-13 13:25:48 UTC
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On 13 Nov 2019 07:35:10 GMT, Jim Easterbrook
Post by Jim Easterbrook
Post by Jim Easterbrook
It's a cover for appalling sanitary conditions in battery shed
I mean rearing shed of course. Battery implies egg production, which the
USA also does in ways that have been outlawed in the EU.
Do battery hens get sold for human food? Perhaps for pies etc?
Yes, that way they are an instant food as they are Ever Ready. (Sorry, I’ll
get my anoderack.)
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J. P. Gilliver (John)
2019-11-12 23:21:40 UTC
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We will fit every home in the UK with a solid gold toilet, make all beer
free at the point of delivery, provide round-the-clock care for everyone
over the age of 40, improve transport links by building a heliport on
every street corner...(cont. p.94 trillion)
Free-Range chicken in every pot?
And an electric car in every garage eh?
Nick
Well, they'd have to be; unless TPTB think to spend the necessary
billions on charging infrastructure, nobody will dare take them out ...
("flat out" has a new meaning for electric cars - a lot less fun.)
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If mankind minus one were of one opinion, then mankind is no more justified in
silencing the one than the one - if he had the power - would be justified in
silencing mankind. -John Stuart Mill, philosopher and economist (1806-1873)
Mike
2019-11-13 08:30:28 UTC
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Post by Nick Odell
On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 10:33:24 +0000, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Russ's comments about his divorce left me wondering what grounds he has
for divorce.  He can't divorce his wife on the basis of his own
adultery
with Lily; if he wants that to be the basis for the divorce, she will
have to divorce him.  It's possible that he has good reason to divorce
her, on the basis of her unreasonable behaviour but, if so, we've never
heard what that might be.
Hasn't that been swept away by no-fault divorce for all? Or was that
yet another bit of proposed legislation that didn't make it through
the process thanks to Brexit?
I'm pretty sure that didn't make it through parliament.  I have no idea
whether it's on any / all of the parties' wish lists for the election.
If the total cost is less than £25bn, forget it, we are only interested in
grand futile electioneering gestures now...
Pah!  I spit on your measly 25bn.
We will fit every home in the UK with a solid gold toilet, make all beer
free at the point of delivery, provide round-the-clock care for everyone
over the age of 40, improve transport links by building a heliport on
every street corner...(cont. p.94 trillion)
Free-Range chicken in every pot?
And an electric car in every garage eh?
Nick
And a garage in every house, bungalow, maisonette, terrace property, flat,
outside loo, inside loo and every attic, loft, cellar and back yard - all
equipped with full free charging facilities too. And of course free
quadruple glazing and solar heating in every dog’s kennel.
--
Toodle Pip
Fenny
2019-11-15 23:42:48 UTC
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Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by Nick Odell
On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 10:33:24 +0000, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Russ's comments about his divorce left me wondering what grounds he has
for divorce. He can't divorce his wife on the basis of his own adultery
with Lily; if he wants that to be the basis for the divorce, she will
have to divorce him. It's possible that he has good reason to divorce
her, on the basis of her unreasonable behaviour but, if so, we've never
heard what that might be.
Hasn't that been swept away by no-fault divorce for all? Or was that
yet another bit of proposed legislation that didn't make it through
the process thanks to Brexit?
I'm pretty sure that didn't make it through parliament. I have no idea
whether it's on any / all of the parties' wish lists for the election.
How long have they been living apart? I misremember what the
requirements are these days - 2 years or 5 years ring bells - but if
he's been shacking up with Lily for long enough, he can divorce on the
grounds of not living together any more.
--
Fenny
Mike
2019-11-16 08:02:16 UTC
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On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 16:00:57 +0000, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by Nick Odell
On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 10:33:24 +0000, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Russ's comments about his divorce left me wondering what grounds he has
for divorce. He can't divorce his wife on the basis of his own adultery
with Lily; if he wants that to be the basis for the divorce, she will
have to divorce him. It's possible that he has good reason to divorce
her, on the basis of her unreasonable behaviour but, if so, we've never
heard what that might be.
Hasn't that been swept away by no-fault divorce for all? Or was that
yet another bit of proposed legislation that didn't make it through
the process thanks to Brexit?
I'm pretty sure that didn't make it through parliament. I have no idea
whether it's on any / all of the parties' wish lists for the election.
How long have they been living apart? I misremember what the
requirements are these days - 2 years or 5 years ring bells - but if
he's been shacking up with Lily for long enough, he can divorce on the
grounds of not living together any more.
Not just living together but ‘living off’ too!
--
Toodle Pip
Vicky Ayech
2019-11-16 09:29:23 UTC
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Post by Fenny
On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 16:00:57 +0000, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by Nick Odell
On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 10:33:24 +0000, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Russ's comments about his divorce left me wondering what grounds he has
for divorce. He can't divorce his wife on the basis of his own adultery
with Lily; if he wants that to be the basis for the divorce, she will
have to divorce him. It's possible that he has good reason to divorce
her, on the basis of her unreasonable behaviour but, if so, we've never
heard what that might be.
Hasn't that been swept away by no-fault divorce for all? Or was that
yet another bit of proposed legislation that didn't make it through
the process thanks to Brexit?
I'm pretty sure that didn't make it through parliament. I have no idea
whether it's on any / all of the parties' wish lists for the election.
How long have they been living apart? I misremember what the
requirements are these days - 2 years or 5 years ring bells - but if
he's been shacking up with Lily for long enough, he can divorce on the
grounds of not living together any more.
Not just living together but ‘living off’ too!
Giving up his VP job last year and going off to live off a student and
ruining her first year at university was stupid. A stupid plot line
and a stupid man. All he had to do was stay in his job and see her
every few weeks. And do Art tutors generally get to be VP?
Mike
2019-11-16 10:23:03 UTC
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Post by Fenny
On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 16:00:57 +0000, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by Nick Odell
On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 10:33:24 +0000, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Russ's comments about his divorce left me wondering what grounds he has
for divorce. He can't divorce his wife on the basis of his own adultery
with Lily; if he wants that to be the basis for the divorce, she will
have to divorce him. It's possible that he has good reason to divorce
her, on the basis of her unreasonable behaviour but, if so, we've never
heard what that might be.
Hasn't that been swept away by no-fault divorce for all? Or was that
yet another bit of proposed legislation that didn't make it through
the process thanks to Brexit?
I'm pretty sure that didn't make it through parliament. I have no idea
whether it's on any / all of the parties' wish lists for the election.
How long have they been living apart? I misremember what the
requirements are these days - 2 years or 5 years ring bells - but if
he's been shacking up with Lily for long enough, he can divorce on the
grounds of not living together any more.
Not just living together but ‘living off’ too!
Giving up his VP job last year and going off to live off a student and
ruining her first year at university was stupid. A stupid plot line
and a stupid man. All he had to do was stay in his job and see her
every few weeks. And do Art tutors generally get to be VP?
I think his principal vice is; sex, then there is housing, food and all
expenses covered. HTH, HAND.
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Nick Odell
2019-11-16 12:40:57 UTC
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Post by Vicky Ayech
Post by Fenny
On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 16:00:57 +0000, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by Nick Odell
On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 10:33:24 +0000, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Russ's comments about his divorce left me wondering what grounds he has
for divorce. He can't divorce his wife on the basis of his own adultery
with Lily; if he wants that to be the basis for the divorce, she will
have to divorce him. It's possible that he has good reason to divorce
her, on the basis of her unreasonable behaviour but, if so, we've never
heard what that might be.
Hasn't that been swept away by no-fault divorce for all? Or was that
yet another bit of proposed legislation that didn't make it through
the process thanks to Brexit?
I'm pretty sure that didn't make it through parliament. I have no idea
whether it's on any / all of the parties' wish lists for the election.
How long have they been living apart? I misremember what the
requirements are these days - 2 years or 5 years ring bells - but if
he's been shacking up with Lily for long enough, he can divorce on the
grounds of not living together any more.
Not just living together but ‘living off’ too!
Giving up his VP job last year and going off to live off a student and
ruining her first year at university was stupid. A stupid plot line
and a stupid man. All he had to do was stay in his job and see her
every few weeks. And do Art tutors generally get to be VP?
Stupid man indeed: he should have shacked up with her, got sacked from
his job and then picked up £700,000 compensation on the way out.

Nick
Mike
2019-11-16 12:54:02 UTC
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On Sat, 16 Nov 2019 09:29:23 +0000, Vicky Ayech
Post by Vicky Ayech
Post by Fenny
On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 16:00:57 +0000, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by Nick Odell
On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 10:33:24 +0000, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Russ's comments about his divorce left me wondering what grounds he has
for divorce. He can't divorce his wife on the basis of his own adultery
with Lily; if he wants that to be the basis for the divorce, she will
have to divorce him. It's possible that he has good reason to divorce
her, on the basis of her unreasonable behaviour but, if so, we've never
heard what that might be.
Hasn't that been swept away by no-fault divorce for all? Or was that
yet another bit of proposed legislation that didn't make it through
the process thanks to Brexit?
I'm pretty sure that didn't make it through parliament. I have no idea
whether it's on any / all of the parties' wish lists for the election.
How long have they been living apart? I misremember what the
requirements are these days - 2 years or 5 years ring bells - but if
he's been shacking up with Lily for long enough, he can divorce on the
grounds of not living together any more.
Not just living together but ‘living off’ too!
Giving up his VP job last year and going off to live off a student and
ruining her first year at university was stupid. A stupid plot line
and a stupid man. All he had to do was stay in his job and see her
every few weeks. And do Art tutors generally get to be VP?
Stupid man indeed: he should have shacked up with her, got sacked from
his job and then picked up £700,000 compensation on the way out.
Nick
Auntie Beeb is profligate enough to have paid it too;-)
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Serena Blanchflower
2019-11-16 09:23:04 UTC
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On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 16:00:57 +0000, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by Nick Odell
On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 10:33:24 +0000, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Russ's comments about his divorce left me wondering what grounds he has
for divorce. He can't divorce his wife on the basis of his own adultery
with Lily; if he wants that to be the basis for the divorce, she will
have to divorce him. It's possible that he has good reason to divorce
her, on the basis of her unreasonable behaviour but, if so, we've never
heard what that might be.
Hasn't that been swept away by no-fault divorce for all? Or was that
yet another bit of proposed legislation that didn't make it through
the process thanks to Brexit?
I'm pretty sure that didn't make it through parliament. I have no idea
whether it's on any / all of the parties' wish lists for the election.
How long have they been living apart? I misremember what the
requirements are these days - 2 years or 5 years ring bells - but if
he's been shacking up with Lily for long enough, he can divorce on the
grounds of not living together any more.
He only moved out a bit over a year ago so, if he would have to wait
till next summer, if he wanted to divorce Lara on the grounds of
separation (assuming she consented). You're right about it being 2
years, with consent, or 5 years without. As it is, it's being suggested
that he's the one doing the divorcing, but on the grounds of his own
infidelity, which isn't possible.
--
Best wishes, Serena
The difference between theory and practice is that in theory there is no
difference between them: in practice there usually is.(Arnold Kraakman)
krw
2019-11-25 22:55:51 UTC
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As it is, it's being suggested that he's the one doing the divorcing,
but on the grounds of his own infidelity, which isn't possible.
But if he agrees to meet all the costs and Lara wants rid then she may
actually be doing the divorcing but he is paying.
--
Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
https://tinyurl.com/KRWpics
Vicky Ayech
2019-11-26 09:30:07 UTC
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As it is, it's being suggested that he's the one doing the divorcing,
but on the grounds of his own infidelity, which isn't possible.
But if he agrees to meet all the costs and Lara wants rid then she may
actually be doing the divorcing but he is paying.
With what? I suppose he is living rent free and has a salary and
eats free with Elizabeth or at the Orangery. Not sure how much the
costs would be or how much his salary is.
Mike
2019-11-26 09:42:27 UTC
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Post by krw
As it is, it's being suggested that he's the one doing the divorcing,
but on the grounds of his own infidelity, which isn't possible.
But if he agrees to meet all the costs and Lara wants rid then she may
actually be doing the divorcing but he is paying.
With what? I suppose he is living rent free and has a salary and
eats free with Elizabeth or at the Orangery. Not sure how much the
costs would be or how much his salary is.
We all know that Auntie pays very well out of our license fees!
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Serena Blanchflower
2019-11-26 10:17:35 UTC
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Post by krw
As it is, it's being suggested that he's the one doing the divorcing,
but on the grounds of his own infidelity, which isn't possible.
But if he agrees to meet all the costs and Lara wants rid then she may
actually be doing the divorcing but he is paying.
Yes, he could talk to her and ask her for a divorce and she might well
agree to that. My point was that that wasn't what appeared to have
happened. The day after promising Lily that he would get the divorce
under way, he was at the solicitor discussing the division of their
assets. There was no mention of seeing Lara to discuss things, nor any
time for it to have happened, away from the mics.

The decision about who divorces whom and the grounds for the divorce are
independent of any discussions about who should pay for what, or how any
assets should be divvied up, although of course it can become a
bargaining chip.
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Best wishes, Serena
42.7 % of all statistics... are made up on the spot!
Sally Thompson
2019-11-26 11:02:07 UTC
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Post by krw
As it is, it's being suggested that he's the one doing the divorcing,
but on the grounds of his own infidelity, which isn't possible.
But if he agrees to meet all the costs and Lara wants rid then she may
actually be doing the divorcing but he is paying.
Yes, he could talk to her and ask her for a divorce and she might well
agree to that. My point was that that wasn't what appeared to have
happened. The day after promising Lily that he would get the divorce
under way, he was at the solicitor discussing the division of their
assets. There was no mention of seeing Lara to discuss things, nor any
time for it to have happened, away from the mics.
The decision about who divorces whom and the grounds for the divorce are
independent of any discussions about who should pay for what, or how any
assets should be divvied up, although of course it can become a
bargaining chip.
I suspect that the editor/script writers know as much about divorce laws as
they do about cats on heat.
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Sally in Shropshire, UK
Serena Blanchflower
2019-11-26 11:10:17 UTC
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Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by krw
As it is, it's being suggested that he's the one doing the divorcing,
but on the grounds of his own infidelity, which isn't possible.
But if he agrees to meet all the costs and Lara wants rid then she may
actually be doing the divorcing but he is paying.
Yes, he could talk to her and ask her for a divorce and she might well
agree to that. My point was that that wasn't what appeared to have
happened. The day after promising Lily that he would get the divorce
under way, he was at the solicitor discussing the division of their
assets. There was no mention of seeing Lara to discuss things, nor any
time for it to have happened, away from the mics.
The decision about who divorces whom and the grounds for the divorce are
independent of any discussions about who should pay for what, or how any
assets should be divvied up, although of course it can become a
bargaining chip.
I suspect that the editor/script writers know as much about divorce laws as
they do about cats on heat.
Yes, that's the impression I get.
--
Best wishes, Serena
If all economists were laid end to end, they would not reach a
conclusion. (George Bernard Shaw)
krw
2019-11-26 14:58:56 UTC
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Post by Sally Thompson
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by krw
As it is, it's being suggested that he's the one doing the divorcing,
but on the grounds of his own infidelity, which isn't possible.
But if he agrees to meet all the costs and Lara wants rid then she may
actually be doing the divorcing but he is paying.
Yes, he could talk to her and ask her for a divorce and she might well
agree to that.  My point was that that wasn't what appeared to have
happened.  The day after promising Lily that he would get the divorce
under way, he was at the solicitor discussing the division of their
assets.  There was no mention of seeing Lara to discuss things, nor any
time for it to have happened, away from the mics.
The decision about who divorces whom and the grounds for the divorce are
independent of any discussions about who should pay for what, or how any
assets should be divvied up, although of course it can become a
bargaining chip.
I suspect that the editor/script writers know as much about divorce laws as
they do about cats on heat.
Yes, that's the impression I get.
Apparently the Shula no longer wanting to be married story exactly
reflected an sw experience. After years without divorces in Ambridge
suddenly they come along all at once.
--
Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
https://tinyurl.com/KRWpics
krw
2019-11-26 14:48:27 UTC
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Post by krw
As it is, it's being suggested that he's the one doing the divorcing,
but on the grounds of his own infidelity, which isn't possible.
But if he agrees to meet all the costs and Lara wants rid then she may
actually be doing the divorcing but he is paying.
Yes, he could talk to her and ask her for a divorce and she might well
agree to that.  My point was that that wasn't what appeared to have
happened.  The day after promising Lily that he would get the divorce
under way, he was at the solicitor discussing the division of their
assets.  There was no mention of seeing Lara to discuss things, nor any
time for it to have happened, away from the mics.
The decision about who divorces whom and the grounds for the divorce are
independent of any discussions about who should pay for what, or how any
assets should be divvied up, although of course it can become a
bargaining chip.
I have just listened and he said he admitted the divorce and so on - so
although we have not heard any discussion with Lara it must have happened.
--
Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
https://tinyurl.com/KRWpics
krw
2019-11-26 14:59:33 UTC
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Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by krw
As it is, it's being suggested that he's the one doing the
divorcing, but on the grounds of his own infidelity, which isn't
possible.
But if he agrees to meet all the costs and Lara wants rid then she
may actually be doing the divorcing but he is paying.
Yes, he could talk to her and ask her for a divorce and she might well
agree to that.  My point was that that wasn't what appeared to have
happened.  The day after promising Lily that he would get the divorce
under way, he was at the solicitor discussing the division of their
assets.  There was no mention of seeing Lara to discuss things, nor
any time for it to have happened, away from the mics.
The decision about who divorces whom and the grounds for the divorce
are independent of any discussions about who should pay for what, or
how any assets should be divvied up, although of course it can become
a bargaining chip.
I have just listened and he said he admitted the divorce and so on - so
although we have not heard any discussion with Lara it must have happened.
Sorry admitted the "adultery" - so Lara could divorce him.
--
Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
https://tinyurl.com/KRWpics
Nick Odell
2019-11-16 12:38:27 UTC
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Post by Fenny
On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 16:00:57 +0000, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by Nick Odell
On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 10:33:24 +0000, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Russ's comments about his divorce left me wondering what grounds he has
for divorce. He can't divorce his wife on the basis of his own adultery
with Lily; if he wants that to be the basis for the divorce, she will
have to divorce him. It's possible that he has good reason to divorce
her, on the basis of her unreasonable behaviour but, if so, we've never
heard what that might be.
Hasn't that been swept away by no-fault divorce for all? Or was that
yet another bit of proposed legislation that didn't make it through
the process thanks to Brexit?
I'm pretty sure that didn't make it through parliament. I have no idea
whether it's on any / all of the parties' wish lists for the election.
How long have they been living apart? I misremember what the
requirements are these days - 2 years or 5 years ring bells - but if
he's been shacking up with Lily for long enough, he can divorce on the
grounds of not living together any more.
Two years by mutual consent, five years if one party contests the
divorce.

Nick
Nick Odell
2019-11-16 12:55:31 UTC
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On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 10:33:24 +0000, Serena Blanchflower
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Russ's comments about his divorce left me wondering what grounds he has
for divorce. He can't divorce his wife on the basis of his own adultery
with Lily; if he wants that to be the basis for the divorce, she will
have to divorce him. It's possible that he has good reason to divorce
her, on the basis of her unreasonable behaviour but, if so, we've never
heard what that might be.
Hasn't that been swept away by no-fault divorce for all? Or was that
yet another bit of proposed legislation that didn't make it through
the process thanks to Brexit?
I'm pretty sure that didn't make it through parliament. I have no idea
whether it's on any / all of the parties' wish lists for the election.
How long have they been living apart? I misremember what the
requirements are these days - 2 years or 5 years ring bells - but if
he's been shacking up with Lily for long enough, he can divorce on the
grounds of not living together any more.
Two years by mutual consent, five years if one party contests the
divorce.
Apologies, Serena: I didn't see you over there.

Nick
carolet
2019-11-12 17:02:17 UTC
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On Mon, 11 Nov 2019 19:09:56 GMT, Chris McMillan
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Sincerely Chris
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Just a faint hope she was not really sympathising but trying to find
if Russ was dragging his heels on the divorce so shoe could advise
Lily and help break it up.   But sadly she sounded too genuine and
still feels she owes him one for when she panicked inthe store he
dragged her into so she could pay for stuff for him.
Russ's comments about his divorce left me wondering what grounds he has
for divorce.  He can't divorce his wife on the basis of his own adultery
with Lily; if he wants that to be the basis for the divorce, she will
have to divorce him.  It's possible that he has good reason to divorce
her, on the basis of her unreasonable behaviour but, if so, we've never
heard what that might be.
From what Lily reported about Lara, she is quite happy without him. If
that is so then she could divorce him for adultery, or they could wait
another year and get divorced on the grounds of 2 years' separation. If
Lara does object then he'll have to wait for 5 years' separation, as I
also doubt that Lara has done anything that he could not reasonably be
expected to live with.
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The Fall of Jill was somehow a bit of a non-event. I hope she is not
ok about about to slide downhill. Old ladies do break arms. I did. And
then they are found to have osteoporosis and are in danger of breaking
bigger bones like hips, which does lead to a rapid demise.
Yes, they do, but Jill didn't.  Her wrist is only sprained.  Like a few
other people, I think this is more likely to push Leonard and Jill
towards marriage, rather than the start of Jill's deterioration.
Post by Vicky Ayech
The spoiler about a shock for David was a bit pants, wasn't it? Hasn't
Lenard been sleeping over for months? Didn't David run into him one
morning? Or am I confusing him with Autumn?
I don't think he has stayed overnight yet. We did hear Leonard show Jill
his spare bedroom and say that it was available if she needed to stay
overnight, if they were out late somewhere, for example. We haven't
heard that she has ever taken up that offer. That doesn't sound as if
they are sharing a bed at all.
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Yes, I think  you're confusing him with Autumn.  IIRC, the SWs were
teasing us with a certain amount of are they / aren't they but it was
only actually Autumn who was staying over.
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J. P. Gilliver (John)
2019-11-12 17:15:52 UTC
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On Mon, 11 Nov 2019 19:09:56 GMT, Chris McMillan
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My heart bleeds (never)
Sincerely Chris
Yes that was really annoying.
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Just a faint hope she was not really sympathising but trying to find
if Russ was dragging his heels on the divorce so shoe could advise
Lily and help break it up.   But sadly she sounded too genuine and
still feels she owes him one for when she panicked inthe store he
dragged her into so she could pay for stuff for him.
Russ's comments about his divorce left me wondering what grounds he
has for divorce.  He can't divorce his wife on the basis of his own
adultery with Lily; if he wants that to be the basis for the divorce,
she will have to divorce him.  It's possible that he has good reason
to divorce her, on the basis of her unreasonable behaviour but, if
so, we've never heard what that might be.
From what Lily reported about Lara, she is quite happy without him. If
that is so then she could divorce him for adultery, or they could wait
another year and get divorced on the grounds of 2 years' separation. If
Lara does object then he'll have to wait for 5 years' separation, as I
also doubt that Lara has done anything that he could not reasonably be
expected to live with.
What, in this context, constitutes an end to separation? In other words,
how easy is it for a partner who _doesn't_ want a divorce to reset the
clock? I presume simple _contact_ doesn't end separation.
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Serena Blanchflower
2019-11-12 20:11:23 UTC
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What, in this context, constitutes an end to separation? In other words,
how easy is it for a partner who _doesn't_ want a divorce to reset the
clock? I presume simple _contact_ doesn't end separation.
It counts from when you stop living together as a couple. Normally,
this will be taken from the date when one partner (or both) moves out of
the marital home. You can claim an earlier date but you have to show
that you were living completely separately, more like flat mates than a
couple. This means things like eating separately, not doing each
other's laundry, having completely independent social lives etc.

I remember a one time colleague who had her divorce thrown out because
the judge didn't think they were living sufficiently independently (I
forget, if I ever knew, what specific problems the judge had). The
irony of the situation was that, by the time it went to court, they had
actually been living at separate addresses for the necessary two years
but, because they'd jumped the gun and tried to speed things up, it
added a few months to their divorce.

You're right to think that simple contact doesn't end the separation,
although it could, if they fell into bed with one another, for old
time's sake. Or at least, if either of them 'fessed up to this!
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Best wishes, Serena
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Sam Plusnet
2019-11-12 21:14:35 UTC
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What, in this context, constitutes an end to separation? In other
words, how easy is it for a partner who _doesn't_ want a divorce to
reset the clock? I presume simple _contact_ doesn't end separation.
It counts from when you stop living together as a couple.  Normally,
this will be taken from the date when one partner (or both) moves out of
the marital home.  You can claim an earlier date but you have to show
that you were living completely separately, more like flat mates than a
couple.  This means things like eating separately, not doing each
other's laundry, having completely independent social lives etc.
I remember a one time colleague who had her divorce thrown out because
the judge didn't think they were living sufficiently independently (I
forget, if I ever knew, what specific problems the judge had).  The
irony of the situation was that, by the time it went to court, they had
actually been living at separate addresses for the necessary two years
but, because they'd jumped the gun and tried to speed things up, it
added a few  months to their divorce.
You're right to think that simple contact doesn't end the separation,
although it could, if they fell into bed with one another, for old
time's sake.  Or at least, if either of them 'fessed up to this!
That might lead to a "Yes we did!" "No we didn't!" interlude.
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Serena Blanchflower
2019-11-12 19:58:12 UTC
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On Mon, 11 Nov 2019 19:09:56 GMT, Chris McMillan
Post by Chris McMillan
My heart bleeds (never)
Sincerely Chris
Yes that was really annoying.
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Just a faint hope she was not really sympathising but trying to find
if Russ was dragging his heels on the divorce so shoe could advise
Lily and help break it up.   But sadly she sounded too genuine and
still feels she owes him one for when she panicked inthe store he
dragged her into so she could pay for stuff for him.
Russ's comments about his divorce left me wondering what grounds he
has for divorce.  He can't divorce his wife on the basis of his own
adultery with Lily; if he wants that to be the basis for the divorce,
she will have to divorce him.  It's possible that he has good reason
to divorce her, on the basis of her unreasonable behaviour but, if so,
we've never heard what that might be.
From what Lily reported about Lara, she is quite happy without him. If
that is so then she could divorce him for adultery, or they could wait
another year and get divorced on the grounds of 2 years' separation. If
Lara does object then he'll have to wait for 5 years' separation, as I
also doubt that Lara has done anything that he could not reasonably be
expected to live with.
Yes, that was my thinking. It means that his first port of call should
have been to talk to Lara, to see what she wanted to do and to ask her
to divorce him. Instead, he appeared to have gone straight to his
solicitor and have been discussing the division of their assets.
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Best wishes, Serena
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Clive Arthur
2019-11-12 23:42:44 UTC
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My heart bleeds (never)
Sincerely Chris
Yes that was really annoying.
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The Fall of Jill was somehow a bit of a non-event.
Post by Chris McMillan
Hasn't
Leonard been sleeping over for months? Didn't David run into him one
morning? Or am I confusing him with Autumn?
Are you confusing the fall of Jill with the fall of the leaf? To swell
the gourd? Or by a cider-press, with patient look, Thou watchest the
last oozings, hours by hours.

Filth, sheer filth.

Cheers
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Clive
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