Continuity

[Kosmo]

I know that expecting one writer to be aware of what was written the
previous week is unreasonable as it will not have been written when the
second writer starts their week. I assumed the editor was responsible.

This week was classic continuity error.

1. Fred had been on stakeout and was not seen by employee.

2. Employee dragged in front of boss and sacked (and why was Vince the
boss - he like Justin has many strings to his bow and is not just
running this little abattoir).

3. Once employee sacked he is going to have to tell Markie Markle that
he has lost access to meat supplies.

4. Given that they would have admitted that Freddie saw him on Friday
night or else why was he in front of the beak how can Fred then pop over
and buy meat balls with Vince assuring him that no-one knew - when it is
almost certain that said employee would have revealed that a posh boy
had turned him in?

The entire programme seems to have been moved to some urban setting -
Back of the Wolves - and all rural activities have been lost. Not to
mention the nonsense over the rota.

All the talk about selling Bartleby and we do not hear from either Eddie
or Clarrie. I know they voted but to omit their voices on this was
wrong. Sorry.

Having checked I can see that this week was written by Nick Warburton -
and the last time I had to write a diatribe was one of his weeks.
Honestly I did not know until I checked.

So please ignore - I have a clear antipathy to the output of this
particular "writer".

[v***@gmail.com]

Post by Kosmo
I know that expecting one writer to be aware of what was written the
previous week is unreasonable as it will not have been written when the
second writer starts their week. I assumed the editor was responsible.
This week was classic continuity error.
1. Fred had been on stakeout and was not seen by employee.
2. Employee dragged in front of boss and sacked (and why was Vince the
boss - he like Justin has many strings to his bow and is not just
running this little abattoir).
3. Once employee sacked he is going to have to tell Markie Markle that
he has lost access to meat supplies.
4. Given that they would have admitted that Freddie saw him on Friday
night or else why was he in front of the beak how can Fred then pop over
and buy meat balls with Vince assuring him that no-one knew - when it is
almost certain that said employee would have revealed that a posh boy
had turned him in?
The entire programme seems to have been moved to some urban setting -
Back of the Wolves - and all rural activities have been lost. Not to
mention the nonsense over the rota.
All the talk about selling Bartleby and we do not hear from either Eddie
or Clarrie. I know they voted but to omit their voices on this was
wrong. Sorry.
Having checked I can see that this week was written by Nick Warburton -
and the last time I had to write a diatribe was one of his weeks.
Honestly I did not know until I checked.
So please ignore - I have a clear antipathy to the output of this
particular "writer".

You are quite right. It was a dog's breakfast of a story line and
execution thereof.

And Warbuton bread, which Tesco's sent instead of the small Hovis
wholemeal loaf, was tasteless, whereas the Hovis one is a good
flavour. And Warbuton bread think they are classier than own brand or
othr brands, and cost more, but it's a con.

[Kosmo]

Post by v***@gmail.com
And Warbuton bread, which Tesco's sent instead of the small Hovis
wholemeal loaf, was tasteless, whereas the Hovis one is a good
flavour. And Warbuton bread think they are classier than own brand or
othr brands, and cost more, but it's a con.

Warburton bread employs a well known and presumably expensive American
actor to shout at viewers when their advertising is shown on the telly
box so the higher price is no doubt to fund his appearances. I dislike
being shouted at and would therefore not recommend the bread.

[J. P. Gilliver]

[]

Post by v***@gmail.com

Post by Kosmo
All the talk about selling Bartleby and we do not hear from either Eddie
or Clarrie. I know they voted but to omit their voices on this was
wrong. Sorry.

Agreed.
[]

Post by v***@gmail.com
And Warbuton bread, which Tesco's sent instead of the small Hovis
wholemeal loaf, was tasteless, whereas the Hovis one is a good
flavour. And Warbuton bread think they are classier than own brand or
othr brands, and cost more, but it's a con.

I used to alternate between two Warburton loaves - a white one and a
brown one. The white one is the "milk roll", which has small round
slices; it does actually contain milk. I have a feeling Warburton took
it over: it used to I think have the WeightWatchers name instead, and I
think was called Blackpool Milk Roll. (I never bought it because of the
Weightwatchers name: like the Nimble brand of old, if it was
low-calorie, it was presumably just because it had smaller slices!) It
is the sort of soft white bread it was fashionable to knock, and
probably still is. It's often hard to find - I often find it in the
reduced area, i. e. short time to sell-by, but it's fine. The brown one
they called "malted Danish", and I really liked the taste of that one -
but they stopped making it. (I eventually asked them, after some time of
not being able to find it, and they confirmed.)

That reminds me of another thing: pre-sliced loaves seem to come in
"thick" or "medium"; I haven't seen a "thin" for decades, if ever. Why?
I would prefer thin (especially for toast), and surely I can't be alone.

My spelling checker didn't know "Blackpool", and suggested "Blackpoll".
?!?

[v***@gmail.com]

On Sun, 16 Jun 2024 18:31:42 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver"

Post by J. P. Gilliver
[]

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Post by Kosmo
All the talk about selling Bartleby and we do not hear from either Eddie
or Clarrie. I know they voted but to omit their voices on this was
wrong. Sorry.

Agreed.
[]

Post by v***@gmail.com
And Warbuton bread, which Tesco's sent instead of the small Hovis
wholemeal loaf, was tasteless, whereas the Hovis one is a good
flavour. And Warbuton bread think they are classier than own brand or
othr brands, and cost more, but it's a con.

I used to alternate between two Warburton loaves - a white one and a
brown one. The white one is the "milk roll", which has small round
slices; it does actually contain milk. I have a feeling Warburton took
it over: it used to I think have the WeightWatchers name instead, and I
think was called Blackpool Milk Roll. (I never bought it because of the
Weightwatchers name: like the Nimble brand of old, if it was
low-calorie, it was presumably just because it had smaller slices!) It
is the sort of soft white bread it was fashionable to knock, and
probably still is. It's often hard to find - I often find it in the
reduced area, i. e. short time to sell-by, but it's fine. The brown one
they called "malted Danish", and I really liked the taste of that one -
but they stopped making it. (I eventually asked them, after some time of
not being able to find it, and they confirmed.)
That reminds me of another thing: pre-sliced loaves seem to come in
"thick" or "medium"; I haven't seen a "thin" for decades, if ever. Why?
I would prefer thin (especially for toast), and surely I can't be alone.
My spelling checker didn't know "Blackpool", and suggested "Blackpoll".
?!?

The Warburton wholemeal has the same calories per slice as the Hovis
one but is thinner. Pack same weight but more slices. Hovis has 14
slices, just right for weekly deliveries if you have a daily sandwich.
Got several packets of 2 or 3 slices of Warburton in the freezer. B
hardly eats bread, just sometimes bacon and egg sandwiches. And then
often makes the bread.

[Nick Odell]

Post by v***@gmail.com
On Sun, 16 Jun 2024 18:31:42 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver"

Post by J. P. Gilliver
[]

Post by v***@gmail.com

Post by Kosmo
All the talk about selling Bartleby and we do not hear from either Eddie
or Clarrie. I know they voted but to omit their voices on this was
wrong. Sorry.

Agreed.
[]

Post by v***@gmail.com
And Warbuton bread, which Tesco's sent instead of the small Hovis
wholemeal loaf, was tasteless, whereas the Hovis one is a good
flavour. And Warbuton bread think they are classier than own brand or
othr brands, and cost more, but it's a con.

I used to alternate between two Warburton loaves - a white one and a
brown one. The white one is the "milk roll", which has small round
slices; it does actually contain milk. I have a feeling Warburton took
it over: it used to I think have the WeightWatchers name instead, and I
think was called Blackpool Milk Roll. (I never bought it because of the
Weightwatchers name: like the Nimble brand of old, if it was
low-calorie, it was presumably just because it had smaller slices!) It
is the sort of soft white bread it was fashionable to knock, and
probably still is. It's often hard to find - I often find it in the
reduced area, i. e. short time to sell-by, but it's fine. The brown one
they called "malted Danish", and I really liked the taste of that one -
but they stopped making it. (I eventually asked them, after some time of
not being able to find it, and they confirmed.)
That reminds me of another thing: pre-sliced loaves seem to come in
"thick" or "medium"; I haven't seen a "thin" for decades, if ever. Why?
I would prefer thin (especially for toast), and surely I can't be alone.
My spelling checker didn't know "Blackpool", and suggested "Blackpoll".
?!?

The Warburton wholemeal has the same calories per slice as the Hovis
one but is thinner. Pack same weight but more slices. Hovis has 14
slices, just right for weekly deliveries if you have a daily sandwich.
Got several packets of 2 or 3 slices of Warburton in the freezer. B
hardly eats bread, just sometimes bacon and egg sandwiches. And then
often makes the bread.

That's where we differ. Although I bake (most of) my own bread at
home, if I want a bacon or sausage or egg or fish finger sandwich or
any permutation or combination thereof then I buy a cheap sliced white
especially for that purpose.

Nick

[stevehague]

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Post by Nick Odell
That's where we differ. Although I bake (most of) my own bread at
home, if I want a bacon or sausage or egg or fish finger sandwich or
any permutation or combination thereof then I buy a cheap sliced white
especially for that purpose.
Nick

I don't eat much bread these days, but I enjoy Hovis wheatgerm original,
only avialable from Morrison's in these parts. It must have decent
butter on it though.
Steve

[Iain Archer]

Post by J. P. Gilliver
[]

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Post by Kosmo
All the talk about selling Bartleby and we do not hear from either
Eddie or Clarrie. I know they voted but to omit their voices on this
was wrong. Sorry.

Agreed.
[]

Post by v***@gmail.com
And Warbuton bread, which Tesco's sent instead of the small Hovis
wholemeal loaf, was tasteless, whereas the Hovis one is a good
flavour. And Warbuton bread think they are classier than own brand or
othr brands, and cost more, but it's a con.

I used to alternate between two Warburton loaves - a white one and a
brown one.

In our Time did Karma, only a couple of weeks ago.

[snip]

That's where we differ. Although I bake (most of) my own bread at home,
if I want a bacon or sausage or egg or fish finger sandwich or any
permutation or combination thereof then I buy a cheap sliced white
especially for that purpose.

I got to try a superannuated small Warburton original seeded batch
for 29p recently -- the same day as the IoT prog in fact. I was deeply
unimpressed by the near tastelessness, but it turned out to be just
the right thing for rediscovering sardine sandwiches, for which
thanks be.

ian

[Joe Kerr]

Post by J. P. Gilliver
That reminds me of another thing: pre-sliced loaves seem to come in
"thick" or "medium"; I haven't seen a "thin" for decades, if ever. Why?
I would prefer thin (especially for toast), and surely I can't be alone.

You're not alone. We always had Hawley's thin sliced bread that they
delivered. I'm not sure whether it was available in shops. They may have
been a regional company and the only local source of thin sliced. I
think they disappeared in the mid 70's when supermarkets started to
catch on.

As for your why; I would guess that it may have something to do with
problems of slicing thinly without squishing the loaf. And, cynically,
that it is eaten by the slice so with thicker slices they sell more loaves.

[Nick Odell]

On Sun, 16 Jun 2024 18:31:42 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver"

Post by J. P. Gilliver
[]

Post by v***@gmail.com

Post by Kosmo
All the talk about selling Bartleby and we do not hear from either Eddie
or Clarrie. I know they voted but to omit their voices on this was
wrong. Sorry.

Agreed.
[]

Post by v***@gmail.com
And Warbuton bread, which Tesco's sent instead of the small Hovis
wholemeal loaf, was tasteless, whereas the Hovis one is a good
flavour. And Warbuton bread think they are classier than own brand or
othr brands, and cost more, but it's a con.

I used to alternate between two Warburton loaves - a white one and a
brown one. The white one is the "milk roll", which has small round
slices; it does actually contain milk. I have a feeling Warburton took
it over: it used to I think have the WeightWatchers name instead, and I
think was called Blackpool Milk Roll. (I never bought it because of the
Weightwatchers name: like the Nimble brand of old, if it was
low-calorie, it was presumably just because it had smaller slices!) It
is the sort of soft white bread it was fashionable to knock, and
probably still is. It's often hard to find - I often find it in the
reduced area, i. e. short time to sell-by, but it's fine. The brown one
they called "malted Danish", and I really liked the taste of that one -
but they stopped making it. (I eventually asked them, after some time of
not being able to find it, and they confirmed.)
That reminds me of another thing: pre-sliced loaves seem to come in
"thick" or "medium"; I haven't seen a "thin" for decades, if ever. Why?
I would prefer thin (especially for toast), and surely I can't be alone.

Asda'a very cheapest white sliced - the one in the yellow wrapper,
down on the bottom shelf - is thinly sliced regardless of what it may
say on the packet.

Nick

[Rosie Mitchell]

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Post by Kosmo
I know that expecting one writer to be aware of what was written the
previous week is unreasonable as it will not have been written when the
second writer starts their week. I assumed the editor was responsible.
This week was classic continuity error.
1. Fred had been on stakeout and was not seen by employee.
2. Employee dragged in front of boss and sacked (and why was Vince the
boss - he like Justin has many strings to his bow and is not just
running this little abattoir).
3. Once employee sacked he is going to have to tell Markie Markle that
he has lost access to meat supplies.
4. Given that they would have admitted that Freddie saw him on Friday
night or else why was he in front of the beak how can Fred then pop over
and buy meat balls with Vince assuring him that no-one knew - when it is
almost certain that said employee would have revealed that a posh boy
had turned him in?
The entire programme seems to have been moved to some urban setting -
Back of the Wolves - and all rural activities have been lost. Not to
mention the nonsense over the rota.
All the talk about selling Bartleby and we do not hear from either Eddie
or Clarrie. I know they voted but to omit their voices on this was
wrong. Sorry.
Having checked I can see that this week was written by Nick Warburton -
and the last time I had to write a diatribe was one of his weeks.
Honestly I did not know until I checked.
So please ignore - I have a clear antipathy to the output of this
particular "writer".

You are quite right. It was a dog's breakfast of a story line and
execution thereof.
And Warbuton bread, which Tesco's sent instead of the small Hovis
wholemeal loaf, was tasteless, whereas the Hovis one is a good
flavour. And Warbuton bread think they are classier than own brand or
othr brands, and cost more, but it's a con.

Warburton's "bread" is actually worse, IMHO, than the usual flabby
supermarket own-brand apology for bread.

Outlaw the Chorleywood process, I say.

Rosie

[john ashby]

Post by Rosie Mitchell

Post by v***@gmail.com

Post by Kosmo
I know that expecting one writer to be aware of what was written the
previous week is unreasonable as it will not have been written when the
second writer starts their week. I assumed the editor was responsible.
This week was classic continuity error.
1. Fred had been on stakeout and was not seen by employee.
2. Employee dragged in front of boss and sacked (and why was Vince the
boss - he like Justin has many strings to his bow and is not just
running this little abattoir).
3. Once employee sacked he is going to have to tell Markie Markle that
he has lost access to meat supplies.
4. Given that they would have admitted that Freddie saw him on Friday
night or else why was he in front of the beak how can Fred then pop over
and buy meat balls with Vince assuring him that no-one knew - when it is
almost certain that said employee would have revealed that a posh boy
had turned him in?
The entire programme seems to have been moved to some urban setting -
Back of the Wolves - and all rural activities have been lost. Not to
mention the nonsense over the rota.
All the talk about selling Bartleby and we do not hear from either Eddie
or Clarrie. I know they voted but to omit their voices on this was
wrong. Sorry.
Having checked I can see that this week was written by Nick Warburton -
and the last time I had to write a diatribe was one of his weeks.
Honestly I did not know until I checked.
So please ignore - I have a clear antipathy to the output of this
particular "writer".

You are quite right. It was a dog's breakfast of a story line and
execution thereof.
And Warbuton bread, which Tesco's sent instead of the small Hovis
wholemeal loaf, was tasteless, whereas the Hovis one is a good
flavour. And Warbuton bread think they are classier than own brand or
othr brands, and cost more, but it's a con.

Warburton's "bread" is actually worse, IMHO, than the usual flabby
supermarket own-brand apology for bread.
Outlaw the Chorleywood process, I say.
Rosie

I recently had a dream where I found myself in an artisan bakery and had
to buy something out of embarrassment (I am guessing other umrats
understand that feeling) so I bought what looked like a fine crusty
sliced loaf wrapped in a clear plastic bag. When I got outside the shop
I turned the bag over to find "Warburtons" written thereon.

Did I say dream? Nightmare, perhaps.

john

[Rosie Mitchell]

Post by Kosmo
The entire programme seems to have been moved to some urban setting -
Back of the Wolves - and all rural activities have been lost. Not to
mention the nonsense over the rota.

Much like many once-rural communities in close proximity to major
conurbations, I suggest. Farming being very largely mechanised, if not
digitised, these days there aren't the agricultural workers that there
were in the 50s and 60s.


In a general election period, it is instructivce to consider the history
of the constituency of North Norfolk, which has existed mostly unchanged
since 1867, was won by Labour in 1922 and held by Labour in every
election except the rather freakish National Government election of 1931
until 1970. It did so on the back of a large and active branch of the
National Union of Agricultural Workers. The NUAW withered away and was
absorbed by the T&GWU in then 1980s and I would imagine that whatever
the size of the predicted (by some, not necessarily by me) Labour
landslide, Labour's planners are not imagining winning it in their
wildest dreams (or nightmares more likely ­ political parties that the
gods wish to destroy they grant huge majorities to). They will be lucky
not to be squeezed by the gLibDems and come fourth.

Having said which, it has long been said that TA was an everyday story
of country folk as imagined by people who live in cities.

Rosie

[J. P. Gilliver]

Post by Rosie Mitchell

Post by Kosmo
The entire programme seems to have been moved to some urban setting -
Back of the Wolves - and all rural activities have been lost. Not to
mention the nonsense over the rota.

Much like many once-rural communities in close proximity to major
conurbations, I suggest. Farming being very largely mechanised, if not
digitised, these days there aren't the agricultural workers that there
were in the 50s and 60s.
In a general election period, it is instructivce to consider the history
of the constituency of North Norfolk, which has existed mostly unchanged
since 1867, was won by Labour in 1922 and held by Labour in every
election except the rather freakish National Government election of 1931
until 1970. It did so on the back of a large and active branch of the
National Union of Agricultural Workers. The NUAW withered away and was

I think there was a large diaspora from Norfolk, which remained mostly
agricultural, at the time of the industrial revolution, to the areas
where industry and mining were getting going, particularly the
north-east (Northumberland, Durham, and Yorkshire); in the case of my
own extended family, lots of them moved - I would say over about 1850 to
1930 - to Northumberland into mining (mostly Bedlington). Mining was
brutal work, but it was plentiful and - hewers (those actually at the
literal coal-face) well-paid, whereas back in agricultural areas,
employment was fairly static, if anything reduced by mechanisation more
than any increase from innovation.

Post by Rosie Mitchell
absorbed by the T&GWU in then 1980s and I would imagine that whatever
the size of the predicted (by some, not necessarily by me) Labour
landslide, Labour's planners are not imagining winning it in their
wildest dreams (or nightmares more likely ­ political parties that the
gods wish to destroy they grant huge majorities to). They will be lucky

I think the big Boris majority was a single-issue one: Brexit. I know
the country was about evenly divided on Brexit, but Brexiteers were more
fed up with the delay in implementing it than Remainers, and thus came
out in sufficient numbers to create (with our silly voting system) the
big majority.

Post by Rosie Mitchell
not to be squeezed by the gLibDems and come fourth.

(-: [Well, Moses did ...]

Post by Rosie Mitchell
Having said which, it has long been said that TA was an everyday story
of country folk as imagined by people who live in cities.

(-: not heard that one before - sounds very plausible! (Especially in
its early days when that slogan was devised, in the MinOfAg days.)

Post by Rosie Mitchell
Rosie

John

[John Armstrong]

Post by J. P. Gilliver
I think the big Boris majority was a single-issue one: Brexit. I know
the country was about evenly divided on Brexit.....

errm... *My* country wasn't about evenly divided on Brexit. 62% of us
voted to remain, but were dragged out anyway.

[Rosie Mitchell]

Post by John Armstrong

Post by J. P. Gilliver
I think the big Boris majority was a single-issue one: Brexit. I
know the country was about evenly divided on Brexit.....

errm... *My* country wasn't about evenly divided on Brexit. 62% of us
voted to remain, but were dragged out anyway.

<lyndasnell>Quite! *sniff* <\lyndasnell>

Rosie