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Kate B
2024-10-22 09:20:19 UTC
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Since this morning's update TB can't access my mailserver. I'm just
wondering if it can deal with Berlin...
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Kate B
Kate B
2024-10-22 09:21:53 UTC
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Since this morning's update TB can't access my mailserver. I'm just
wondering if it can deal with Berlin...
Well, it managed that. Something must be wrong in the mail settings
somewhere...
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Kate B
john ashby
2024-10-22 10:13:24 UTC
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Post by Kate B
Since this morning's update TB can't access my mailserver. I'm just
wondering if it can deal with Berlin...
Well, it managed that. Something must be wrong in the mail settings
somewhere...
I don't know if this is relevant but pinging mail.demon.co.uk returned
"Name or service not known". pinging demon.co.uk gives "No address
associated with hostname".

I wonder if there are some screwed up DNS tables somewhere. But I may be
looking for complicated solutions where simpler ones exist.

john
Kate B
2024-10-22 10:38:06 UTC
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Post by Kate B
Since this morning's update TB can't access my mailserver. I'm just
wondering if it can deal with Berlin...
Well, it managed that. Something must be wrong in the mail settings
somewhere...
I don't know if this is relevant but pinging mail.demon.co.uk returned
"Name or service not known". pinging demon.co.uk gives "No address
associated with hostname".
I wonder if there are some screwed up DNS tables somewhere. But I may be
looking for complicated solutions where simpler ones exist.
john
Aha - sorry - the 'from' address @demon is a hangover from about twenty
years ago! When Demon collapsed and Turnpike ceased to be supported at
all, I left them. But someone kindly retained nospam.demon.co.uk as a
useful null address for newsgroups, hence the 'from' address. I then
created my cockaigne domain (see reply-to), and changed to Thunderbird
and EUKhost, who have actually always been fantastic.

EUK looked into the problem and realised that my IP address had
triggered some kind of security alert on the mailserver - I think that
when TB updated, its first requests must have been simultaneous multiple
ones or something like that, which alarmed the server. I then compounded
the problem by fiddling with the settings for one email which hammered
the server again. I am now pure as the driven snow whitelisted and
receiving everything.

I am now on TB 128.3.2esr and hoping they've resolved the freezing
problems. It does seem to be better now. I looked at the Task Manager
while it was misbehaving and saw an odd correlation between the
AntiMalware (windows' own) activity and the freezing - perhaps they've
calmed down some virus-checking activity?
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Kate B
john ashby
2024-10-22 14:29:46 UTC
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Since this morning's update TB can't access my mailserver. I'm just
wondering if it can deal with Berlin...
Well, it managed that. Something must be wrong in the mail settings
somewhere...
I don't know if this is relevant but pinging mail.demon.co.uk returned
"Name or service not known". pinging demon.co.uk gives "No address
associated with hostname".
I wonder if there are some screwed up DNS tables somewhere. But I may
be looking for complicated solutions where simpler ones exist.
john
years ago! When Demon collapsed and Turnpike ceased to be supported at
all, I left them. But someone kindly retained nospam.demon.co.uk as a
useful null address for newsgroups, hence the 'from' address. I then
created my cockaigne domain (see reply-to), and changed to Thunderbird
and EUKhost, who have actually always been fantastic.
EUK looked into the problem and realised that my IP address had
triggered some kind of security alert on the mailserver - I think that
when TB updated, its first requests must have been simultaneous multiple
ones or something like that, which alarmed the server. I then compounded
the problem by fiddling with the settings for one email which hammered
the server again. I am now pure as the driven snow whitelisted and
receiving everything.
I am now on TB 128.3.2esr and hoping they've resolved the freezing
problems. It does seem to be better now. I looked at the Task Manager
while it was misbehaving and saw an odd correlation between the
AntiMalware (windows' own) activity and the freezing - perhaps they've
calmed down some virus-checking activity?
Glad things are getting better. I wondered if demon were still going (I
thought I remembered talk of their demise but thirty seconds spent
pinging is not a big deal). Obviously if they're not that explains the
messages.

john(just about to upgrade to TB 128.3.2)
Kosmo
2024-10-22 15:39:11 UTC
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john(just about to upgrade to TB 128.3.2)
I have just undertaken that and I seem to have no ill effects at present.
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Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
https://tinyurl.com/KRWpics
Kate B
2024-10-22 18:45:04 UTC
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john(just about to upgrade to TB 128.3.2)
I have just undertaken that and I seem to have no ill effects at present.
Is there a setting that will inform you about an update but allow you to
install at your convenience? I thought there was but can't find it. I
just get them thrust upon me.
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Kate B
Kosmo
2024-10-23 08:41:51 UTC
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Post by john ashby
john(just about to upgrade to TB 128.3.2)
I have just undertaken that and I seem to have no ill effects at present.
Is there a setting that will inform you about an update but allow you to
install at your convenience? I thought there was but can't find it. I
just get them thrust upon me.
Yes.

Tools, Settings, General, Scroll down to Updates,

Select Allow Thunderbird to to check for updates but let me choose
whether to install them.

Should take effect on restart of Thunderbird.
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Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
https://tinyurl.com/KRWpics
Kate B
2024-10-23 10:08:51 UTC
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john(just about to upgrade to TB 128.3.2)
I have just undertaken that and I seem to have no ill effects at present.
Is there a setting that will inform you about an update but allow you
to install at your convenience? I thought there was but can't find it.
I just get them thrust upon me.
Yes.
Tools, Settings, General,  Scroll down to Updates,
Select Allow Thunderbird to to check for updates but let me choose
whether to install them.
Should take effect on restart of Thunderbird.
Thank you! I'd forgotten where it all was. It says there's an update
download in progress, which considering the last one was only yesterday
is a bit worrying!
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Kate B
nick
2024-11-02 11:19:44 UTC
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Dunno if this might be relevant to the Thunderbird discussions here but
there's a recent thread over on uk.d-i-y with the unsurprising subject
title "Thunderbird (something or other)" which is talking about rolling
back to previous versions etc. etc.

Nick

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