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Hollowtree Farm.
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Peter Withey
2021-01-23 09:30:21 UTC
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In a thread on one of the FB groups the "Flats" at Hollowtree were
mentioned.

In TAE is states that in 1970 when Dan retired, Phil and Jill moved
into Brookfield from Hollowtree. The farmhouse was sold to Nelson
Gabriel for £13000. Nelson then converted the farmhouse into flats.

We know that the farm land has been used, mainly for pigs by Neil and
Rex and in the near future for Josh's chicken empire.

What happened to the flats? Are they still there? If yes, who lives in
them? Or like so many of the Ambridge inhabitants been forgotten in
the mists of time.
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Pete
Peter Withey
2021-01-23 09:40:51 UTC
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Post by Peter Withey
In a thread on one of the FB groups the "Flats" at Hollowtree were
mentioned.
In TAE is states that in 1970 when Dan retired, Phil and Jill moved
into Brookfield from Hollowtree. The farmhouse was sold to Nelson
Gabriel for £13000. Nelson then converted the farmhouse into flats.
We know that the farm land has been used, mainly for pigs by Neil and
Rex and in the near future for Josh's chicken empire.
What happened to the flats? Are they still there? If yes, who lives in
them? Or like so many of the Ambridge inhabitants been forgotten in
the mists of time.
Sorry. After posting this I did a quick search and found this BBC blog
post.

Comment posted by Spicycushion, at 17:32 22 Mar 2018Spicycushion
17:32 22 Mar 2018
Posted by Aesop2 49
Hollowtree was Phil and Jill's home when they were first married and
Phil was well into pig farming.
When Dan retired and finally moved into Glebe Cottage with Doris and
P&J moved into Brookfield, Nelson Gabriel bought the farm house and
converted it into flats, although I don't know how many.
Later on he sold it back to Brookfield and when the Fairbrothers were
looking over Hollowtree (when Pip suggested it for their new venture)
David remarked that the Farmhouse was empty and I believe a bit
derelict.

Strange that Brookfield should be so short of money and on the verge
of bankruptcy a few months back yet they had property standing empty!

Any umrat remember this? I find it hard to believe that when
Brookfield bought it back they just neglected the place - but that's
the Archers, I guess.
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Pete
Mike McMillan
2021-01-23 10:09:29 UTC
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Post by Peter Withey
In a thread on one of the FB groups the "Flats" at Hollowtree were
mentioned.
In TAE is states that in 1970 when Dan retired, Phil and Jill moved
into Brookfield from Hollowtree. The farmhouse was sold to Nelson
Gabriel for £13000. Nelson then converted the farmhouse into flats.
We know that the farm land has been used, mainly for pigs by Neil and
Rex and in the near future for Josh's chicken empire.
What happened to the flats? Are they still there? If yes, who lives in
them? Or like so many of the Ambridge inhabitants been forgotten in
the mists of time.
Sorry. After posting this I did a quick search and found this BBC blog
post.
Comment posted by Spicycushion, at 17:32 22 Mar 2018Spicycushion
17:32 22 Mar 2018
Posted by Aesop2 49
Hollowtree was Phil and Jill's home when they were first married and
Phil was well into pig farming.
When Dan retired and finally moved into Glebe Cottage with Doris and
P&J moved into Brookfield, Nelson Gabriel bought the farm house and
converted it into flats, although I don't know how many.
Later on he sold it back to Brookfield and when the Fairbrothers were
looking over Hollowtree (when Pip suggested it for their new venture)
David remarked that the Farmhouse was empty and I believe a bit
derelict.
Strange that Brookfield should be so short of money and on the verge
of bankruptcy a few months back yet they had property standing empty!
Any umrat remember this? I find it hard to believe that when
Brookfield bought it back they just neglected the place - but that's
the Archers, I guess.
Peter, it rather sounds as though you think that TA is just fiction and
that there is a team of script writers who would be capable of making silly
mistakes with the storyline and forgetting historical events. May I suggest
you think again, get real and then wash your mouth out? ;-)))
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Vicky Ayech
2021-01-23 10:34:56 UTC
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Post by Peter Withey
In a thread on one of the FB groups the "Flats" at Hollowtree were
mentioned.
In TAE is states that in 1970 when Dan retired, Phil and Jill moved
into Brookfield from Hollowtree. The farmhouse was sold to Nelson
Gabriel for £13000. Nelson then converted the farmhouse into flats.
We know that the farm land has been used, mainly for pigs by Neil and
Rex and in the near future for Josh's chicken empire.
What happened to the flats? Are they still there? If yes, who lives in
them? Or like so many of the Ambridge inhabitants been forgotten in
the mists of time.
Sorry. After posting this I did a quick search and found this BBC blog
post.
Comment posted by Spicycushion, at 17:32 22 Mar 2018Spicycushion
17:32 22 Mar 2018
Posted by Aesop2 49
Hollowtree was Phil and Jill's home when they were first married and
Phil was well into pig farming.
When Dan retired and finally moved into Glebe Cottage with Doris and
P&J moved into Brookfield, Nelson Gabriel bought the farm house and
converted it into flats, although I don't know how many.
Later on he sold it back to Brookfield and when the Fairbrothers were
looking over Hollowtree (when Pip suggested it for their new venture)
David remarked that the Farmhouse was empty and I believe a bit
derelict.
Strange that Brookfield should be so short of money and on the verge
of bankruptcy a few months back yet they had property standing empty!
Any umrat remember this? I find it hard to believe that when
Brookfield bought it back they just neglected the place - but that's
the Archers, I guess.
Yes the Fairbrothers could have renovated it and lived there, so not
to have to live with Bert and Pip. TA no longer have a continuity
person, do they? and the file cards with information have been lost.
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2021-01-23 10:49:34 UTC
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Post by Vicky Ayech
Post by Peter Withey
Strange that Brookfield should be so short of money and on the verge
of bankruptcy a few months back yet they had property standing empty!
Any umrat remember this? I find it hard to believe that when
Brookfield bought it back they just neglected the place - but that's
the Archers, I guess.
Yes the Fairbrothers could have renovated it and lived there, so not
to have to live with Bert and Pip. TA no longer have a continuity
person, do they? and the file cards with information have been lost.
Recently there have been hints that the cards have been transferred to
computer. But how comprehensively, goodness knows; I could imagine it
might cover people first, farms and prominent village things (shop,
church ...) next, with miscellaneous buildings possibly low down.

Actually, thinking of the shop: isn't that about due for some upheaval?
I vaguely remember witch-Hazel being, sort of, blackmailed into giving
it (and/or the building it's in: isn't there a flat over? [Where IIRR
Helen lived at one point?]) a few years' grace, but that must be near
its end ...
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labor..." - Harlan Ellison
Serena Blanchflower
2021-01-25 12:07:35 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Actually, thinking of the shop: isn't that about due for some upheaval?
I vaguely remember witch-Hazel being, sort of, blackmailed into giving
it (and/or the building it's in: isn't there a flat over? [Where IIRR
Helen lived at one point?]) a few years' grace, but that must be near
its end ...
I can't remember the exact details of how witch-Hazel (I like that name
for her!) was bullied into allowing the shop to continue. I suspect
that the likely end-date will be following Peggy's death, as there's
unlikely to be anyone left then that she would listen to.

As for the shop over the flat, that's where Tom and Natasha are living
now, since Fallon moved out.
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good deal about their acts. (Horace Mann)
krw
2021-01-25 13:02:05 UTC
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I can't remember the exact details of how witch-Hazel (I like that name
for her!) was bullied into allowing the shop to continue.
Jim got it registered as a Community Asset so it restricts what she can
do even if Peggy were ever to die (an event that would go unremarked I
am sure).
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J. P. Gilliver (John)
2021-01-25 16:11:29 UTC
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Post by krw
Post by Serena Blanchflower
I can't remember the exact details of how witch-Hazel (I like that
Yes, I was rather pleased with it!
Post by krw
Post by Serena Blanchflower
name for her!) was bullied into allowing the shop to continue.
Jim got it registered as a Community Asset so it restricts what she can
do even if Peggy were ever to die (an event that would go unremarked I
am sure).
Ah. I know a bit about those - we have one in Charing (the Oak,
originally nice old black-and-white pub, heart of the village; the
owner[s?] keep]s[ trying to get permission to turn it into
accommodation). Community Asset status needs to be renewed at intervals
- five years I think. I'm not sure what grounds for objection to renewal
are likely to work.
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Mike McMillan
2021-01-25 17:28:03 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Post by krw
Post by Serena Blanchflower
I can't remember the exact details of how witch-Hazel (I like that
Yes, I was rather pleased with it!
Post by krw
Post by Serena Blanchflower
name for her!) was bullied into allowing the shop to continue.
Jim got it registered as a Community Asset so it restricts what she can
do even if Peggy were ever to die (an event that would go unremarked I
am sure).
Ah. I know a bit about those - we have one in Charing (the Oak,
originally nice old black-and-white pub, heart of the village; the
owner[s?] keep]s[ trying to get permission to turn it into
accommodation). Community Asset status needs to be renewed at intervals
- five years I think. I'm not sure what grounds for objection to renewal
are likely to work.
Size of the Slush Fund?
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Sam Plusnet
2021-01-25 20:44:25 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Post by krw
name  for her!) was bullied into allowing the shop to continue.
Jim got it registered as a Community Asset so it restricts what she
can do even if Peggy were ever to die (an event that would go
unremarked I am sure).
Ah. I know a bit about those - we have one in Charing (the Oak,
originally nice old black-and-white pub, heart of the village; the
owner[s?] keep]s[ trying to get permission to turn it into
accommodation). Community Asset status needs to be renewed at intervals
- five years I think. I'm not sure what grounds for objection to renewal
are likely to work.
Swerving onto the subject of Pubs.

I read that the Lamb and Flag in Oxford has closed its doors because of
the impact of C-19.
If a famous place like that can't keep going, I think there must be
several thousand other pubs which have even less chance of surviving.
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Sam Plusnet
Vicky Ayech
2021-01-25 21:59:34 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Post by krw
name  for her!) was bullied into allowing the shop to continue.
Jim got it registered as a Community Asset so it restricts what she
can do even if Peggy were ever to die (an event that would go
unremarked I am sure).
Ah. I know a bit about those - we have one in Charing (the Oak,
originally nice old black-and-white pub, heart of the village; the
owner[s?] keep]s[ trying to get permission to turn it into
accommodation). Community Asset status needs to be renewed at intervals
- five years I think. I'm not sure what grounds for objection to renewal
are likely to work.
Swerving onto the subject of Pubs.
I read that the Lamb and Flag in Oxford has closed its doors because of
the impact of C-19.
If a famous place like that can't keep going, I think there must be
several thousand other pubs which have even less chance of surviving.
As The Bull is the only pub in Ambridge and is a community centre I
wonder if they can keep going.
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2021-01-25 22:08:31 UTC
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Post by Sam Plusnet
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Post by krw
name  for her!) was bullied into allowing the shop to continue.
Jim got it registered as a Community Asset so it restricts what she
can do even if Peggy were ever to die (an event that would go
unremarked I am sure).
Ah. I know a bit about those - we have one in Charing (the Oak,
originally nice old black-and-white pub, heart of the village; the
owner[s?] keep]s[ trying to get permission to turn it into
accommodation). Community Asset status needs to be renewed at intervals
- five years I think. I'm not sure what grounds for objection to renewal
are likely to work.
Swerving onto the subject of Pubs.
I read that the Lamb and Flag in Oxford has closed its doors because of
the impact of C-19.
If a famous place like that can't keep going, I think there must be
several thousand other pubs which have even less chance of surviving.
As The Bull is the only pub in Ambridge and is a community centre I
wonder if they can keep going.
I would imagine there would be no problem classifying it as a Community
Asset. But I think it's like listed buildings - somebody has to apply;
if nobody does, I don't think it automatically becomes one.
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Chris
2021-01-27 16:21:09 UTC
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Post by Sam Plusnet
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Post by krw
name  for her!) was bullied into allowing the shop to continue.
Jim got it registered as a Community Asset so it restricts what she
can do even if Peggy were ever to die (an event that would go
unremarked I am sure).
Ah. I know a bit about those - we have one in Charing (the Oak,
originally nice old black-and-white pub, heart of the village; the
owner[s?] keep]s[ trying to get permission to turn it into
accommodation). Community Asset status needs to be renewed at intervals
- five years I think. I'm not sure what grounds for objection to renewal
are likely to work.
Swerving onto the subject of Pubs.
I read that the Lamb and Flag in Oxford has closed its doors because of
the impact of C-19.
If a famous place like that can't keep going, I think there must be
several thousand other pubs which have even less chance of surviving.
Where’s Laura when we need her?

Sincerely Chris
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2021-01-27 16:58:14 UTC
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Post by Chris
Post by Sam Plusnet
Swerving onto the subject of Pubs.
I read that the Lamb and Flag in Oxford has closed its doors because of
the impact of C-19.
If a famous place like that can't keep going, I think there must be
several thousand other pubs which have even less chance of surviving.
Where’s Laura when we need her?
Sincerely Chris
"Tell Laura, we need her" ...
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)***@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

They'd never heard of me; they didn't like me; they didn't like my speech;
they tutted and clucked and looked at their watches and eventually I sat down
to a thunderous lack of applause. - Barry Norman (on preceding Douglas Bader),
in RT 6-12 July 2013
Mike McMillan
2021-01-27 17:39:01 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
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Post by Chris
Post by Sam Plusnet
Swerving onto the subject of Pubs.
I read that the Lamb and Flag in Oxford has closed its doors because of
the impact of C-19.
If a famous place like that can't keep going, I think there must be
several thousand other pubs which have even less chance of surviving.
Where’s Laura when we need her?
Sincerely Chris
"Tell Laura, we need her" ...
I take it that this is an allusion to:

Laura and Tommy were lovers
He wanted to give her everything
Flowers, presents and most of all, a wedding ring
He saw a sign for a stock car race
A thousand dollar prize it read
He couldn't get Laura on the phone
So to her mother, Tommy said
Tell Laura I love her, tell Laura I need her
Tell Laura I may be late
I've something to do, that cannot wait
He drove his car to the racing grounds
He was the youngest driver there
And the crowed roared as they started the race
'Round the track they drove at a deadly pace
No one knows what happened that day
How his car overturned in flames
But as they pulled him from the twisted wreck
With his dying breath, they heard him say
Tell Laura I love her, tell Laura I need her
Tell Laura not to cry
My love for her will never die
And in the chapel where Laura prays
For Tommy who passed away
It was just for Laura he lived and died
Alone in the chapel she can hear him cry
Tell Laura I love her, tell Laura I need her
Tell Laura not to cry
My love for her will never die
Tell Laura I love her
Tell Laura I love her
Tell Laura I love her
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Sid Nuncius
2021-01-27 19:43:48 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
"Tell Laura, we need her" ...
Laura and Tommy were lovers
He wanted to give her everything...
Well, yes. It was.

Ah - those heady days of necro-rock when the charts were littered with
the corpses of dead teenagers. Terry, Ebony Eyes, Leader Of The Pack,
Teen Angel, Dead Man's Curve...and so on. Some of the spoken passages
in particular are simply wonderful

They don't make 'em like that any more.
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(Make sure Matron is away when you reply)
BrritSki
2021-01-27 20:37:01 UTC
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Post by Mike McMillan
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
"Tell Laura, we need her" ...
Laura and Tommy were lovers
He wanted to give her everything...
Well, yes.  It was.
Ah - those heady days of necro-rock when the charts were littered with
the corpses of dead teenagers.  Terry, Ebony Eyes, Leader Of The Pack,
Teen Angel, Dead Man's Curve...and so on.  Some of the spoken passages
in particular are simply wonderful
They don't make 'em like that any more.
YATomDooleyAICM5OakTrees
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2021-01-27 20:42:37 UTC
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Post by Sid Nuncius
Post by Mike McMillan
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
"Tell Laura, we need her" ...
Laura and Tommy were lovers
He wanted to give her everything...
Well, yes. It was.
Ah - those heady days of necro-rock when the charts were littered with
the corpses of dead teenagers. Terry, Ebony Eyes, Leader Of The Pack,
Teen Angel, Dead Man's Curve...and so on. Some of the spoken passages
in particular are simply wonderful
They don't make 'em like that any more.
I did hear that Teen Angel wasn't played on the radio much because
suicide rates rose whenever it was; whether this is true, I know not.

Then there was Delilah ... a Mexican-style corrida del muerte if I ever
heard one. (I've probably got that spelling/phrasing wrong.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)***@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

… too popular actually to be any good. - Alison Graham in Radio Times 2-8
February 2013
Vicky Ayech
2021-01-27 21:40:11 UTC
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On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 19:43:48 +0000, Sid Nuncius
Post by Sid Nuncius
Post by Mike McMillan
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
"Tell Laura, we need her" ...
Laura and Tommy were lovers
He wanted to give her everything...
Well, yes. It was.
Ah - those heady days of necro-rock when the charts were littered with
the corpses of dead teenagers. Terry, Ebony Eyes, Leader Of The Pack,
Teen Angel, Dead Man's Curve...and so on. Some of the spoken passages
in particular are simply wonderful
They don't make 'em like that any more.
I loved Ebony Eyes :)
Sam Plusnet
2021-01-27 22:38:57 UTC
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Post by Vicky Ayech
On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 19:43:48 +0000, Sid Nuncius
Post by Sid Nuncius
Post by Mike McMillan
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
"Tell Laura, we need her" ...
Laura and Tommy were lovers
He wanted to give her everything...
Well, yes. It was.
Ah - those heady days of necro-rock when the charts were littered with
the corpses of dead teenagers. Terry, Ebony Eyes, Leader Of The Pack,
Teen Angel, Dead Man's Curve...and so on. Some of the spoken passages
in particular are simply wonderful
They don't make 'em like that any more.
I loved Ebony Eyes :)
Recipe?
--
Sam Plusnet
Penny
2021-01-27 23:38:09 UTC
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On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 22:38:57 +0000, Sam Plusnet <***@home.com> scrawled in
the dust...
Post by Sam Plusnet
Post by Vicky Ayech
On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 19:43:48 +0000, Sid Nuncius
Post by Sid Nuncius
Post by Mike McMillan
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
"Tell Laura, we need her" ...
Laura and Tommy were lovers
He wanted to give her everything...
Well, yes. It was.
Ah - those heady days of necro-rock when the charts were littered with
the corpses of dead teenagers. Terry, Ebony Eyes, Leader Of The Pack,
Teen Angel, Dead Man's Curve...and so on. Some of the spoken passages
in particular are simply wonderful
They don't make 'em like that any more.
I loved Ebony Eyes :)
Recipe?
I'm tempted to BTN that...
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959
John Ashby
2021-01-28 07:40:28 UTC
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the dust...
Post by Sam Plusnet
Post by Vicky Ayech
On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 19:43:48 +0000, Sid Nuncius
Post by Sid Nuncius
Post by Mike McMillan
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
"Tell Laura, we need her" ...
Laura and Tommy were lovers
He wanted to give her everything...
Well, yes. It was.
Ah - those heady days of necro-rock when the charts were littered with
the corpses of dead teenagers. Terry, Ebony Eyes, Leader Of The Pack,
Teen Angel, Dead Man's Curve...and so on. Some of the spoken passages
in particular are simply wonderful
They don't make 'em like that any more.
I loved Ebony Eyes :)
Recipe?
I'm tempted to BTN that...
It may be that my lack of knowledge of popular beat music is causing
something very clever to fly over my head, but if you did offer a BTN
I'd decline.

john
Vicky Ayech
2021-01-28 09:57:04 UTC
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Post by Penny
the dust...
Post by Sam Plusnet
Post by Vicky Ayech
On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 19:43:48 +0000, Sid Nuncius
Post by Sid Nuncius
Post by Mike McMillan
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
"Tell Laura, we need her" ...
Laura and Tommy were lovers
He wanted to give her everything...
Well, yes. It was.
Ah - those heady days of necro-rock when the charts were littered with
the corpses of dead teenagers. Terry, Ebony Eyes, Leader Of The Pack,
Teen Angel, Dead Man's Curve...and so on. Some of the spoken passages
in particular are simply wonderful
They don't make 'em like that any more.
I loved Ebony Eyes :)
Recipe?
I'm tempted to BTN that...
It may be that my lack of knowledge of popular beat music is causing
something very clever to fly over my head, but if you did offer a BTN
I'd decline.
john
On a weekend pass
I wouldn't have had time
To get home and marry
That baby of mine
So I went to the captain
And he authorised
Me to send for my Ebony Eyes

Ebony Eyes is coming to me
From out of the skies
On flight 1203
In an hour or two I will whisper I do
To my beautiful Ebony Eyes

The plane was way overdue
So I went inside to the airline's desk and I said
"Sir, I wonder why 1203 is so late"
He said, "Oh they probably took off late
Or they may have run into some turbulent weather and had to alter the
course"
I went back outside and waited at the gate
And I watched the beacon light from the control tower
As it whipped through the dark ebony skies if it were searching for
My Ebony Eyes

Will all those with friends or family on flight 1203
Please come to the chapel across the road

Then I felt a burning break deep inside
And I knew the heavenly ebony skies
Had taken my life's most wonderful prize
My beautiful Ebony Eyes
If I ever get, to heaven I'll bet
The first angel I'll recognize
She'll smile at me and I know she will be
My beautiful Ebony Eyes
Penny
2021-01-28 14:39:51 UTC
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Post by Penny
the dust...
Post by Sam Plusnet
Post by Vicky Ayech
On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 19:43:48 +0000, Sid Nuncius
Post by Sid Nuncius
Post by Mike McMillan
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
"Tell Laura, we need her" ...
Laura and Tommy were lovers
He wanted to give her everything...
Well, yes. It was.
Ah - those heady days of necro-rock when the charts were littered with
the corpses of dead teenagers. Terry, Ebony Eyes, Leader Of The Pack,
Teen Angel, Dead Man's Curve...and so on. Some of the spoken passages
in particular are simply wonderful
They don't make 'em like that any more.
I loved Ebony Eyes :)
Recipe?
I'm tempted to BTN that...
It may be that my lack of knowledge of popular beat music is causing
something very clever to fly over my head, but if you did offer a BTN
I'd decline.
I don't know the song - it was the call for a recipe which made me slightly
nauseous and prompted my reaction.
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959
Jenny M Benson
2021-01-28 10:38:56 UTC
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Post by Sam Plusnet
I loved Ebony Eyes:)
Recipe?
I'm tempted to BTN that...
I have a recipe book which I inherited from a Great Aunt and which was
published in about 1924. It not only includes all the sorts of recipe
one would expect, but also ones for curing bruised withers on horses,
making a fire in an invalid's bedroom and many other delights. My
daughter's favourite was the one which read "First remove the eyes and
place them in a dish..."
--
Jenny M Benson
Wrexham, UK
Penny
2021-01-28 14:43:45 UTC
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Post by Penny
Post by Sam Plusnet
I loved Ebony Eyes:)
Recipe?
I'm tempted to BTN that...
I have a recipe book which I inherited from a Great Aunt and which was
published in about 1924. It not only includes all the sorts of recipe
one would expect, but also ones for curing bruised withers on horses,
making a fire in an invalid's bedroom and many other delights. My
daughter's favourite was the one which read "First remove the eyes and
place them in a dish..."
I have a similar recipe book from my Scottish Grandmother. I think I have
shared the instructions for renovating golf balls here before. My brothers
sniggered about it for some time.
--
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Annoyed by The Archers since 1959
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2021-01-28 18:27:30 UTC
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scrawled in the dust...
Post by Jenny M Benson
Post by Penny
Post by Sam Plusnet
I loved Ebony Eyes:)
Recipe?
I'm tempted to BTN that...
I have a recipe book which I inherited from a Great Aunt and which was
published in about 1924. It not only includes all the sorts of recipe
one would expect, but also ones for curing bruised withers on horses,
making a fire in an invalid's bedroom and many other delights. My
daughter's favourite was the one which read "First remove the eyes and
place them in a dish..."
I have a similar recipe book from my Scottish Grandmother. I think I have
shared the instructions for renovating golf balls here before. My brothers
sniggered about it for some time.
Then, in case there's anyone who's not seen it, there's the field
service sheet for computer mice (from before they were optical):
https://bit.ly/39oEGzd
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utterly subservient to his will; and the next to overturn or diminish trial by
jury ..." Lord Devlin (http://www.holbornchambers.co.uk)
Serena Blanchflower
2021-01-28 18:35:39 UTC
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Post by Penny
On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 10:38:56 +0000, Jenny M Benson
scrawled in the dust...
Post by Jenny M Benson
Post by Penny
Post by Sam Plusnet
I loved Ebony Eyes:)
Recipe?
I'm tempted to BTN that...
I have a recipe book which I inherited from a Great Aunt and which was
published in about 1924.  It not only includes all the sorts of recipe
one would expect, but also ones for curing bruised withers on horses,
making a fire in an invalid's bedroom and many other delights.  My
daughter's favourite was the one which read "First remove the eyes and
place them in a dish..."
I have a similar recipe book from my Scottish Grandmother. I think I have
shared the instructions for renovating golf balls here before. My brothers
sniggered about it for some time.
Then, in case there's anyone who's not seen it, there's the field
https://bit.ly/39oEGzd
Although this did come from RETAIN, IBM's Customer Engineering system,
it was in the test system, but not in the live one!
--
Best wishes, Serena
Our world is not divided by race, colour, gender or religion our world
is divided into wise people and fools and it is fools that divide the
world by race, colour, gender or religion. (Nelson Mandela)
steve hague
2021-01-28 08:52:01 UTC
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Post by Mike McMillan
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
"Tell Laura, we need her" ...
Laura and Tommy were lovers
He wanted to give her everything...
Well, yes.  It was.
Ah - those heady days of necro-rock when the charts were littered with
the corpses of dead teenagers.  Terry, Ebony Eyes, Leader Of The Pack,
Teen Angel, Dead Man's Curve...and so on.  Some of the spoken passages
in particular are simply wonderful
They don't make 'em like that any more.
Thank the Lord. On the other hand we have gangsta rap.
Steve
Sid Nuncius
2021-01-28 18:15:26 UTC
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Post by Sid Nuncius
Ah - those heady days of necro-rock when the charts were littered with
the corpses of dead teenagers.  Terry, Ebony Eyes, Leader Of The Pack,
Teen Angel, Dead Man's Curve...and so on.  Some of the spoken passages
in particular are simply wonderful
They don't make 'em like that any more.
Thank the Lord.
Oh, I don't know. I genuinely love quite a few of them; they are often
absurdly overblown and full of manipulative sentimentality, but that's
what makes them so enjoyable. And I am a little ashamed of this, but in
places I actually find some of them rather affecting. In Terry, the
line "Now it's too late to tell that boy how great he was," for example.

And Johnny, Remember Me is a good tune and a masterpiece of production, IMO.

YMMV.
--
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BrritSki
2021-01-28 18:35:04 UTC
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Post by steve hague
Post by Sid Nuncius
Ah - those heady days of necro-rock when the charts were littered
with the corpses of dead teenagers.  Terry, Ebony Eyes, Leader Of The
Pack, Teen Angel, Dead Man's Curve...and so on.  Some of the spoken
passages in particular are simply wonderful
They don't make 'em like that any more.
Thank the Lord.
Oh, I don't know.  I genuinely love quite a few of them
I really like this one too. True story :(

<https://genius.com/Madison-violet-the-woodshop-lyrics>
Sid Nuncius
2021-01-28 19:10:39 UTC
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Post by steve hague
Post by Sid Nuncius
Ah - those heady days of necro-rock when the charts were littered
with the corpses of dead teenagers.  Terry, Ebony Eyes, Leader Of
The Pack, Teen Angel, Dead Man's Curve...and so on.  Some of the
spoken passages in particular are simply wonderful
They don't make 'em like that any more.
Thank the Lord.
Oh, I don't know.  I genuinely love quite a few of them
I really like this one too. True story  :(
<https://genius.com/Madison-violet-the-woodshop-lyrics>
Thanks, Brritters. I like that a lot.
--
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Penny
2021-01-28 19:22:04 UTC
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scrawled in the dust...
Post by Sid Nuncius
Post by steve hague
Post by Sid Nuncius
Ah - those heady days of necro-rock when the charts were littered with
the corpses of dead teenagers.  Terry, Ebony Eyes, Leader Of The Pack,
Teen Angel, Dead Man's Curve...and so on.  Some of the spoken passages
in particular are simply wonderful
They don't make 'em like that any more.
Thank the Lord.
Oh, I don't know. I genuinely love quite a few of them; they are often
absurdly overblown and full of manipulative sentimentality, but that's
what makes them so enjoyable. And I am a little ashamed of this, but in
places I actually find some of them rather affecting. In Terry, the
line "Now it's too late to tell that boy how great he was," for example.
Terry, by Twinkle, was the first single I ever spent my 6/3* on - crikey,
that was nearly three week's pocket money!
The chap in the record shop, who used to like to play me things he liked
which were new in, was disgusted - I suppose he was chatting me up, I was
only 11 or 12.

*Purchase tax had been reduced
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959
Mike Headon
2021-01-30 11:56:36 UTC
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Post by Penny
scrawled in the dust...
Post by Sid Nuncius
Post by steve hague
Post by Sid Nuncius
Ah - those heady days of necro-rock when the charts were littered with
the corpses of dead teenagers.  Terry, Ebony Eyes, Leader Of The Pack,
Teen Angel, Dead Man's Curve...and so on.  Some of the spoken passages
in particular are simply wonderful
They don't make 'em like that any more.
Thank the Lord.
Oh, I don't know. I genuinely love quite a few of them; they are often
absurdly overblown and full of manipulative sentimentality, but that's
what makes them so enjoyable. And I am a little ashamed of this, but in
places I actually find some of them rather affecting. In Terry, the
line "Now it's too late to tell that boy how great he was," for example.
Terry, by Twinkle, was the first single I ever spent my 6/3* on - crikey,
that was nearly three week's pocket money!
The chap in the record shop, who used to like to play me things he liked
which were new in, was disgusted - I suppose he was chatting me up, I was
only 11 or 12.
*Purchase tax had been reduced
I heard Twinkle sing live in Croydon. She could not sing a note!
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Chris J Dixon
2021-01-28 09:30:26 UTC
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Post by Sid Nuncius
Post by Mike McMillan
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
"Tell Laura, we need her" ...
Laura and Tommy were lovers
He wanted to give her everything...
Well, yes. It was.
Ah - those heady days of necro-rock when the charts were littered with
the corpses of dead teenagers. Terry, Ebony Eyes, Leader Of The Pack,
Teen Angel, Dead Man's Curve...and so on. Some of the spoken passages
in particular are simply wonderful
They don't make 'em like that any more.
A Barnsley group didn't mince words:



Me And Them - I Think I'm Gonna Kill Myself

Chris
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***@cdixon.me.uk @ChrisJDixon1
Plant amazing Acers.
Jenny M Benson
2021-01-28 10:34:42 UTC
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Post by Sid Nuncius
Ah - those heady days of necro-rock when the charts were littered with
the corpses of dead teenagers.  Terry, Ebony Eyes, Leader Of The Pack,
Teen Angel, Dead Man's Curve...and so on.  Some of the spoken passages
in particular are simply wonderful
They don't make 'em like that any more.
I commend "Dead! The Grim Reaper's Greatest Hits" (various artists) to
this house. I have the follow-up, "Still Dead! The Grim Reaper#s
Jukebox" also, but the first is better.
--
Jenny M Benson
Wrexham, UK
steve hague
2021-01-28 11:24:48 UTC
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Post by Jenny M Benson
Post by Sid Nuncius
Ah - those heady days of necro-rock when the charts were littered with
the corpses of dead teenagers.  Terry, Ebony Eyes, Leader Of The Pack,
Teen Angel, Dead Man's Curve...and so on.  Some of the spoken passages
in particular are simply wonderful
They don't make 'em like that any more.
I commend "Dead! The Grim Reaper's Greatest Hits" (various artists) to
this house.  I have the follow-up, "Still Dead! The Grim Reaper#s
Jukebox" also, but the first is better.
Traditional folk music has nothing to lose by comparison. Pentangle's
Cruel Sister and the divine Martin Carthy's Prince Heathen make for good
listening if you intend to get seriously depressed.
Steve
krw
2021-01-28 12:36:40 UTC
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Post by steve hague
Post by Jenny M Benson
Post by Sid Nuncius
Ah - those heady days of necro-rock when the charts were littered
with the corpses of dead teenagers.  Terry, Ebony Eyes, Leader Of The
Pack, Teen Angel, Dead Man's Curve...and so on.  Some of the spoken
passages in particular are simply wonderful
They don't make 'em like that any more.
I commend "Dead! The Grim Reaper's Greatest Hits" (various artists) to
this house.  I have the follow-up, "Still Dead! The Grim Reaper#s
Jukebox" also, but the first is better.
Traditional folk music has nothing to lose by comparison. Pentangle's
Cruel Sister and the divine Martin Carthy's Prince Heathen make for good
listening if you intend to get seriously depressed.
Steve
Or just about anything by Richard Thompson.
--
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www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
https://tinyurl.com/KRWpics
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2021-01-28 13:36:33 UTC
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Post by krw
Post by steve hague
Post by Jenny M Benson
Post by Sid Nuncius
Ah - those heady days of necro-rock when the charts were littered
with the corpses of dead teenagers.  Terry, Ebony Eyes, Leader Of
The Pack, Teen Angel, Dead Man's Curve...and so on.  Some of the
spoken passages in particular are simply wonderful
They don't make 'em like that any more.
I commend "Dead! The Grim Reaper's Greatest Hits" (various artists)
to this house.  I have the follow-up, "Still Dead! The Grim Reaper#s
Jukebox" also, but the first is better.
Traditional folk music has nothing to lose by comparison.
Pentangle's Cruel Sister and the divine Martin Carthy's Prince
Heathen make for good listening if you intend to get seriously depressed.
Steve
Or just about anything by Richard Thompson.
Well, if you're going to get into folk music about death, there's the
traditional Irish Ballad (actually dating from 1947):
(doesn't make me depressed,
though - quite the opposite! And I love the final chord).
--
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"I'm a paranoid agnostic. I doubt the existence of God, but I'm sure there is
some force, somewhere, working against me." - Marc Maron
Anne B
2021-01-29 12:59:43 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Post by krw
Post by Jenny M Benson
Post by Sid Nuncius
Ah - those heady days of necro-rock when the charts were littered
with the corpses of dead teenagers.  Terry, Ebony Eyes, Leader Of
The  Pack, Teen Angel, Dead Man's Curve...and so on.  Some of the
spoken  passages in particular are simply wonderful
They don't make 'em like that any more.
I commend "Dead! The Grim Reaper's Greatest Hits" (various artists)
to  this house.  I have the follow-up, "Still Dead! The Grim
Reaper#s Jukebox" also, but the first is better.
  Traditional folk music has nothing to lose by comparison.
Pentangle's  Cruel Sister and the divine Martin Carthy's Prince
Heathen make for good  listening if you intend to get seriously
depressed.
Steve
Or just about anything by Richard Thompson.
Well, if you're going to get into folk music about death, there's the
http://youtu.be/VT04tR1ZqE4 (doesn't make me depressed,
though - quite the opposite! And I love the final chord).
If that qualifies as folk music, then I recommend several others of the
assemble oeuvres of the author.

Anne B
Sid Nuncius
2021-01-28 18:51:17 UTC
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Post by steve hague
Post by Jenny M Benson
Post by Sid Nuncius
Ah - those heady days of necro-rock when the charts were littered
with the corpses of dead teenagers.  Terry, Ebony Eyes, Leader Of The
Pack, Teen Angel, Dead Man's Curve...and so on.  Some of the spoken
passages in particular are simply wonderful
They don't make 'em like that any more.
I commend "Dead! The Grim Reaper's Greatest Hits" (various artists) to
this house.  I have the follow-up, "Still Dead! The Grim Reaper#s
Jukebox" also, but the first is better.
Traditional folk music has nothing to lose by comparison. Pentangle's
Cruel Sister and the divine Martin Carthy's Prince Heathen make for good
listening if you intend to get seriously depressed.
Ooh yes! Nowt wrong wi' a good murder ballad, a form which I am pleased
to say is alive and well. Two fairly recent ones I like and don't find
at all depressing are Hunter Moon by Amy Speace, which has a great,
darkly sexy beat:

and Cold River By Tom Rush which sounds far too jaunty for a murder
ballad, but I think it's very effective:


And (tallking of sexy beats) there's the wholly wonderful Train Home by
the brilliant Chris Smither which sounds grim but I find is anything but:

"But the dead don't take no vacation
Down in that subway station
The only break they take is to the bone;
They're waiting for a train to take them home."
--
Sid
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Nick Odell
2021-01-28 20:51:34 UTC
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On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 18:51:17 +0000, Sid Nuncius
Post by Sid Nuncius
Post by steve hague
Post by Jenny M Benson
Post by Sid Nuncius
Ah - those heady days of necro-rock when the charts were littered
with the corpses of dead teenagers.  Terry, Ebony Eyes, Leader Of The
Pack, Teen Angel, Dead Man's Curve...and so on.  Some of the spoken
passages in particular are simply wonderful
They don't make 'em like that any more.
I commend "Dead! The Grim Reaper's Greatest Hits" (various artists) to
this house.  I have the follow-up, "Still Dead! The Grim Reaper#s
Jukebox" also, but the first is better.
Traditional folk music has nothing to lose by comparison. Pentangle's
Cruel Sister and the divine Martin Carthy's Prince Heathen make for good
listening if you intend to get seriously depressed.
Ooh yes! Nowt wrong wi' a good murder ballad, a form which I am pleased
to say is alive and well. Two fairly recent ones I like and don't find
at all depressing are Hunter Moon by Amy Speace, which has a great,
http://youtu.be/t4K2hE2iOrU
and Cold River By Tom Rush which sounds far too jaunty for a murder
http://youtu.be/tPWJ6ReRk1E
And (tallking of sexy beats) there's the wholly wonderful Train Home by
http://youtu.be/kNiGmmPlVzk
"But the dead don't take no vacation
Down in that subway station
The only break they take is to the bone;
They're waiting for a train to take them home."
If it's murder ballads you want, there's a whole album of them by Nick
Cave entitled -erme- Murder Ballads (Amazon B000026ZHQ)

But if you only want them one at a time, I must mention Aurora's,
Murder Song


Or a favourite of mine from about ten years back: Lera Lynn, Bobby
Baby.

(There's a bump on the hill where your body lies....)

Nick
Vicky Ayech
2021-01-28 21:20:09 UTC
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On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 20:51:34 +0000, Nick Odell
Post by Nick Odell
On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 18:51:17 +0000, Sid Nuncius
Post by Sid Nuncius
Post by steve hague
Post by Jenny M Benson
Post by Sid Nuncius
Ah - those heady days of necro-rock when the charts were littered
with the corpses of dead teenagers.  Terry, Ebony Eyes, Leader Of The
Pack, Teen Angel, Dead Man's Curve...and so on.  Some of the spoken
passages in particular are simply wonderful
They don't make 'em like that any more.
I commend "Dead! The Grim Reaper's Greatest Hits" (various artists) to
this house.  I have the follow-up, "Still Dead! The Grim Reaper#s
Jukebox" also, but the first is better.
Traditional folk music has nothing to lose by comparison. Pentangle's
Cruel Sister and the divine Martin Carthy's Prince Heathen make for good
listening if you intend to get seriously depressed.
Ooh yes! Nowt wrong wi' a good murder ballad, a form which I am pleased
to say is alive and well. Two fairly recent ones I like and don't find
at all depressing are Hunter Moon by Amy Speace, which has a great,
http://youtu.be/t4K2hE2iOrU
and Cold River By Tom Rush which sounds far too jaunty for a murder
http://youtu.be/tPWJ6ReRk1E
And (tallking of sexy beats) there's the wholly wonderful Train Home by
http://youtu.be/kNiGmmPlVzk
"But the dead don't take no vacation
Down in that subway station
The only break they take is to the bone;
They're waiting for a train to take them home."
If it's murder ballads you want, there's a whole album of them by Nick
Cave entitled -erme- Murder Ballads (Amazon B000026ZHQ)
But if you only want them one at a time, I must mention Aurora's,
Murder Song http://youtu.be/jTwdGRHl5Mw
Or a favourite of mine from about ten years back: Lera Lynn, Bobby
Baby. http://youtu.be/QBHwQjYYQY0
(There's a bump on the hill where your body lies....)
Nick
And then there is
Bullet in my shoulder
Blood running down my vest
Twenty in the posse
And they're never gonna let me rest..

And The Ballard of Bonnie and Clyde

And Down by the banks of the Ohio
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2021-01-29 11:13:37 UTC
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wrote (my responses usually follow points raised):
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Post by Vicky Ayech
And then there is
Bullet in my shoulder
Blood running down my vest
Twenty in the posse
And they're never gonna let me rest..
And The Ballard of Bonnie and Clyde
And Down by the banks of the Ohio
I don't know if anyone's ever set it to music, but if death is the only
criterion, "The Charge of the Light Brigade" would fit ...

(Actually, would make a good rap, from what little understanding I have
of that form.)
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The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual
rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities. - Ayn Rand, quoted by Deb
Shinder 2012-3-30
Sid Nuncius
2021-01-28 18:16:01 UTC
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Post by Jenny M Benson
Post by Sid Nuncius
Ah - those heady days of necro-rock when the charts were littered with
the corpses of dead teenagers.  Terry, Ebony Eyes, Leader Of The Pack,
Teen Angel, Dead Man's Curve...and so on.  Some of the spoken passages
in particular are simply wonderful
They don't make 'em like that any more.
I commend "Dead! The Grim Reaper's Greatest Hits" (various artists) to
this house.  I have the follow-up, "Still Dead! The Grim Reaper#s
Jukebox" also, but the first is better.
<languid wave> to all of that.
--
Sid
(Make sure Matron is away when you reply)
Serena Blanchflower
2021-01-27 18:40:59 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
[]
Post by Chris
Post by Sam Plusnet
Swerving onto the subject of Pubs.
I read that the Lamb and Flag in Oxford has closed its doors because of
the impact of C-19.
If a famous place like that can't keep going, I think there must be
several thousand other pubs which have even less chance of surviving.
Where’s Laura when we need her?
Sincerely Chris
"Tell Laura, we need her" ...
I told Laura that she was being missed and she says there isn't much she
can do about the Lamb and Flag, and she's more worried about whether the
Bird and Baby opposite will reopen.
--
Best wishes, Serena
To live is so startling it leaves little time for anything else (Emily
Dickinson)
Nick Odell
2021-01-25 21:38:52 UTC
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On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 16:11:29 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Post by krw
Post by Serena Blanchflower
I can't remember the exact details of how witch-Hazel (I like that
Yes, I was rather pleased with it!
Post by krw
Post by Serena Blanchflower
name for her!) was bullied into allowing the shop to continue.
Jim got it registered as a Community Asset so it restricts what she can
do even if Peggy were ever to die (an event that would go unremarked I
am sure).
Ah. I know a bit about those - we have one in Charing (the Oak,
originally nice old black-and-white pub, heart of the village; the
owner[s?] keep]s[ trying to get permission to turn it into
accommodation). Community Asset status needs to be renewed at intervals
- five years I think. I'm not sure what grounds for objection to renewal
are likely to work.
In Kent it seems the desire to build a lorry park can overrule
anything else. Charing is conveniently close to the M20 so it could be
even fewer than five years before they turn The Oak into a customs
post.

Nick
krw
2021-01-23 14:00:04 UTC
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Post by Peter Withey
Later on he sold it back to Brookfield and when the Fairbrothers were
looking over Hollowtree (when Pip suggested it for their new venture)
David remarked that the Farmhouse was empty and I believe a bit
derelict.
If Brookfield had bought back some expensively converted flats surely
they would have maintained them and used the income? TBOTA refers to
the farm now being part of Brookfield almost as an afterthought whilst
TAE mentions the flats being re-purchased and being allowed to decay.

It feels like someone suddenly found the flats empty and did not know
what to do with them!
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Mike McMillan
2021-01-23 14:55:50 UTC
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Post by krw
Post by Peter Withey
Later on he sold it back to Brookfield and when the Fairbrothers were
looking over Hollowtree (when Pip suggested it for their new venture)
David remarked that the Farmhouse was empty and I believe a bit
derelict.
If Brookfield had bought back some expensively converted flats surely
they would have maintained them and used the income? TBOTA refers to
the farm now being part of Brookfield almost as an afterthought whilst
TAE mentions the flats being re-purchased and being allowed to decay.
It feels like someone suddenly found the flats empty and did not know
what to do with them!
Has Brookfield ever had an ‘upmarket’ brothel? Might finance the
loss-making components of the farming work as it doesn’t look like the
weddings are going to bring in a lot of money.
--
Toodle Pip [ She must be well toodled by now] (My other iPad is an old Pro)
Vicky Ayech
2021-01-23 17:20:03 UTC
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On Sat, 23 Jan 2021 14:55:50 GMT, Mike McMillan
Post by krw
Post by Peter Withey
Later on he sold it back to Brookfield and when the Fairbrothers were
looking over Hollowtree (when Pip suggested it for their new venture)
David remarked that the Farmhouse was empty and I believe a bit
derelict.
If Brookfield had bought back some expensively converted flats surely
they would have maintained them and used the income? TBOTA refers to
the farm now being part of Brookfield almost as an afterthought whilst
TAE mentions the flats being re-purchased and being allowed to decay.
It feels like someone suddenly found the flats empty and did not know
what to do with them!
Has Brookfield ever had an ‘upmarket’ brothel? Might finance the
loss-making components of the farming work as it doesn’t look like the
weddings are going to bring in a lot of money.
You mean take a leaf out of Philip's book and bring over females to
'help' instead of males?
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