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Vicky
2024-05-06 07:55:48 UTC
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https://www.ambridgereporter.org.uk/synopses/2024.html
BBC don't put Friday up and anyway theirs are minimal but these are
very full and, while I want to keep up to date and discuss , I don't
want to listen at present. Sadly as miss some other stuff.
Vicky
2024-05-06 12:29:02 UTC
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Post by Vicky
https://www.ambridgereporter.org.uk/synopses/2024.html
BBC don't put Friday up and anyway theirs are minimal but these are
very full and, while I want to keep up to date and discuss , I don't
want to listen at present. Sadly as miss some other stuff.
Also
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13385481/The-Archers-fans-tenterhooks-cliffhanger-episode-normally-sedate-BBC-radio-farming-drama-leaves-listeners-fearing-four-characters-DEAD-driving-disaster.html
carolet
2024-05-08 12:49:35 UTC
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Post by Vicky
Post by Vicky
https://www.ambridgereporter.org.uk/synopses/2024.html
BBC don't put Friday up and anyway theirs are minimal but these are
very full and, while I want to keep up to date and discuss , I don't
want to listen at present. Sadly as miss some other stuff.
Also
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13385481/The-Archers-fans-tenterhooks-cliffhanger-episode-normally-sedate-BBC-radio-farming-drama-leaves-listeners-fearing-four-characters-DEAD-driving-disaster.html
If that was written on Sunday, why would listeners be fearing 4
characters dead? I only thought that George and Alice were involved at
that point.
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CaroleT
Kosmo
2024-05-06 12:41:59 UTC
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Post by Vicky
https://www.ambridgereporter.org.uk/synopses/2024.html
BBC don't put Friday up and anyway theirs are minimal but these are
very full and, while I want to keep up to date and discuss , I don't
want to listen at present. Sadly as miss some other stuff.
They do put up Friday summaries after the omnibus - certainly the
previous Friday is there. Perhaps the work experience did not up date it.
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Nick Odell
2024-05-06 14:20:09 UTC
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Post by Vicky
https://www.ambridgereporter.org.uk/synopses/2024.html
BBC don't put Friday up and anyway theirs are minimal but these are
very full and, while I want to keep up to date and discuss , I don't
want to listen at present. Sadly as miss some other stuff.
Berloimey! If it's a synopsis, shouldn't it take less time to read
than the actual thing itself?

Nick
Mike McMillan
2024-05-06 16:19:56 UTC
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Post by Nick Odell
Post by Vicky
https://www.ambridgereporter.org.uk/synopses/2024.html
BBC don't put Friday up and anyway theirs are minimal but these are
very full and, while I want to keep up to date and discuss , I don't
want to listen at present. Sadly as miss some other stuff.
Berloimey! If it's a synopsis, shouldn't it take less time to read
than the actual thing itself?
Nick
I accidentally heard the tragedy trailer just before the midday news today;
sounds to me as though Alice is contemplating suicide (so obviously, this
is NOT what is about to happen) but, I can’t help feeling that such an
event might be an improvement to future plot lines (sorry but my hate for
Alice is only exceeded by my hate for Kate!) Still not listening though…
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J. P. Gilliver
2024-05-06 18:45:02 UTC
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In message <v1avvc$2lkud$***@dont-email.me> at Mon, 6 May 2024 16:19:56,
Mike McMillan <***@virginmedia.com> writes
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Post by Mike McMillan
I accidentally heard the tragedy trailer just before the midday news today;
sounds to me as though Alice is contemplating suicide (so obviously, this
is NOT what is about to happen) but, I can’t help feeling that such an
event might be an improvement to future plot lines (sorry but my hate for
Alice is only exceeded by my hate for Kate!) Still not listening though…
I had forgotten that I hate Kate - really, worse than a waste of space
as she actually causes trouble - in my recent new hate for George.

Don't know how tonight's activities will change things. Logically,
"George done good" ought to give him further opportunities to get away
with even more bad, but knowing how (some) SWs work, he might have a
Damascene conversion and thus suffer PTF. I sort of hope not - it would
be nice to get rid of Bad George, but would be very implausible.
--
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what - recession? Up north? What we gonna have - more nowt?
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Jim Easterbrook
2024-05-06 19:47:32 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver
Don't know how tonight's activities will change things. Logically,
"George done good" ought to give him further opportunities to get away
with even more bad, but knowing how (some) SWs work, he might have a
Damascene conversion and thus suffer PTF. I sort of hope not - it would
be nice to get rid of Bad George, but would be very implausible.
Is it Good George or Bad George that has a little goatee beard?
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Jim <http://www.jim-easterbrook.me.uk/>
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Serena Blanchflower
2024-05-06 20:24:28 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver
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Post by Mike McMillan
I accidentally heard the tragedy trailer just before the midday news today;
sounds to me as though Alice is contemplating suicide (so obviously, this
is NOT what is about to happen) but, I can’t help feeling that such an
event might be an improvement to future plot lines (sorry but my hate for
Alice is only exceeded by my hate for Kate!) Still not listening though…
I had forgotten that I hate Kate - really, worse than a waste of space
as she actually causes trouble - in my recent new hate for George.
Don't know how tonight's activities will change things. Logically,
"George done good" ought to give him further opportunities to get away
with even more bad, but knowing how (some) SWs work, he might have a
Damascene conversion and thus suffer PTF. I sort of hope not - it would
be nice to get rid of Bad George, but would be very implausible.
I think he will milk the general reaction that "George done good" for
all he's worth. I'm pretty sure the truth will catch up with him soon
though and his attempt to pervert the course of justice and, in all
probability, driving without insurance, will obliterate the goodwill he
had accrued initially.
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Best wishes, Serena
We all know that Prime Ministers are wedded to the truth, but like other
wedded couples they sometimes live apart. (Saki)
Pete W
2024-05-07 08:41:42 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver
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Post by Mike McMillan
I accidentally heard the tragedy trailer just before the midday news today;
sounds to me as though Alice is contemplating suicide (so obviously, this
is NOT what is about to happen) but, I can’t help feeling that such an
event might be an improvement to future plot lines (sorry but my hate for
Alice is only exceeded by my hate for Kate!) Still not listening though…
I had forgotten that I hate Kate - really, worse than a waste of space
as she actually causes trouble - in my recent new hate for George.
Don't know how tonight's activities will change things. Logically,
"George done good" ought to give him further opportunities to get away
with even more bad, but knowing how (some) SWs work, he might have a
Damascene conversion and thus suffer PTF. I sort of hope not - it would
be nice to get rid of Bad George, but would be very implausible.
"George done good"? Did he? If I heard it correctly, if I didn't I'm
sure somebody will correct me, he was driving Alice home and after
the accident, he moved Alice into the driver seat to make appear she
was driving, not him. Doesn't sound like "done good" to me.


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Pete.
J. P. Gilliver
2024-05-08 09:37:35 UTC
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Post by Pete W
Post by J. P. Gilliver
Don't know how tonight's activities will change things. Logically,
"George done good" ought to give him further opportunities to get away
with even more bad, but knowing how (some) SWs work, he might have a
Damascene conversion and thus suffer PTF. I sort of hope not - it would
be nice to get rid of Bad George, but would be very implausible.
"George done good"? Did he? If I heard it correctly, if I didn't I'm
sure somebody will correct me, he was driving Alice home and after
the accident, he moved Alice into the driver seat to make appear she
was driving, not him. Doesn't sound like "done good" to me.
Ah, but those attending after the event won't know about that, only that
George did some of the rescuing. At least, I _think_ he did - this not
being television, I am not sure who did what.
Post by Pete W
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Pete.
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So, Heresy be damned (well, it would be, wouldn't it?).
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Iain Archer
2024-05-08 18:49:17 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver
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Post by Pete W
Post by J. P. Gilliver
Don't know how tonight's activities will change things. Logically,
"George done good" ought to give him further opportunities to get away
with even more bad, but knowing how (some) SWs work, he might have a
Damascene conversion and thus suffer PTF. I sort of hope not - it would
be nice to get rid of Bad George, but would be very implausible.
"George done good"? Did he? If I heard it correctly, if I didn't I'm
sure somebody will correct me, he was driving Alice home and after the
accident, he moved Alice into the driver seat to make appear she was
driving, not him. Doesn't sound like "done good" to me.
Ah, but those attending after the event won't know about that, only that
George did some of the rescuing. At least, I _think_ he did - this not
being television, I am not sure who did what.
Did George actually move her, or just say that he did? ISTR something
that ?he said, about not being able to access one door as it was jammed
by a rock, or something similar. I did have some recordings, but
deleted them as they didn't seem very interesting. Whatever,
questions may be raised in due course by the police examiner's
report once the car is retrieved.
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This post may contain language and attitudes belonging to the
period in which it was written.
Wenlock
2024-05-08 19:05:10 UTC
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Post by Iain Archer
Post by J. P. Gilliver
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Post by Pete W
Post by J. P. Gilliver
Don't know how tonight's activities will change things. Logically,
"George done good" ought to give him further opportunities to get away
with even more bad, but knowing how (some) SWs work, he might have a
Damascene conversion and thus suffer PTF. I sort of hope not - it would
be nice to get rid of Bad George, but would be very implausible.
"George done good"? Did he? If I heard it correctly, if I didn't I'm
sure somebody will correct me, he was driving Alice home and after the
accident, he moved Alice into the driver seat to make appear she was
driving, not him. Doesn't sound like "done good" to me.
Ah, but those attending after the event won't know about that, only that
George did some of the rescuing. At least, I _think_ he did - this not
being television, I am not sure who did what.
Did George actually move her, or just say that he did? ISTR something
that ?he said, about not being able to access one door as it was jammed
by a rock, or something similar. I did have some recordings, but
deleted them as they didn't seem very interesting. Whatever,
questions may be raised in due course by the police examiner's
report once the car is retrieved.
The car in the water was Mick’s; Fallon’s exit was hampered by the stuck
door. George stopped Alice’s car on or just before the bridge, did some
rescuing, and then shifted Alice.
Serena Blanchflower
2024-05-08 20:31:58 UTC
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Post by Iain Archer
Post by J. P. Gilliver
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Post by Pete W
Post by J. P. Gilliver
Don't know how tonight's activities will change things. Logically,
"George done good" ought to give him further opportunities to get away
with even more bad, but knowing how (some) SWs work, he might have a
Damascene conversion and thus suffer PTF. I sort of hope not - it would
be nice to get rid of Bad George, but would be very implausible.
"George done good"? Did he? If I heard it correctly, if I didn't I'm
sure somebody will correct me, he was driving Alice home and after the
accident, he moved Alice into the driver seat to make appear she was
driving, not him. Doesn't sound like "done good" to me.
Ah, but those attending after the event won't know about that, only that
George did some of the rescuing. At least, I _think_ he did - this not
being television, I am not sure who did what.
Did George actually move her, or just say that he did? ISTR something
that ?he said, about not being able to access one door as it was jammed
by a rock, or something similar. I did have some recordings, but
deleted them as they didn't seem very interesting. Whatever,
questions may be raised in due course by the police examiner's
report once the car is retrieved.
He certainly seems to have moved her enough to convince all bystanders,
and the police who attended the accident, that Alice was the driver.
I'm sure the truth will come out eventually but I'm not sure how long
this is going to take.
--
Best wishes, Serena
Q. What will they do if the Forth Bridge collapses?
A. Build a fifth bridge.
Vicky
2024-05-08 20:56:41 UTC
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On Wed, 8 May 2024 21:31:58 +0100, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by Iain Archer
Post by J. P. Gilliver
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Post by Pete W
Post by J. P. Gilliver
Don't know how tonight's activities will change things. Logically,
"George done good" ought to give him further opportunities to get away
with even more bad, but knowing how (some) SWs work, he might have a
Damascene conversion and thus suffer PTF. I sort of hope not - it would
be nice to get rid of Bad George, but would be very implausible.
"George done good"? Did he? If I heard it correctly, if I didn't I'm
sure somebody will correct me, he was driving Alice home and after the
accident, he moved Alice into the driver seat to make appear she was
driving, not him. Doesn't sound like "done good" to me.
Ah, but those attending after the event won't know about that, only that
George did some of the rescuing. At least, I _think_ he did - this not
being television, I am not sure who did what.
Did George actually move her, or just say that he did? ISTR something
that ?he said, about not being able to access one door as it was jammed
by a rock, or something similar. I did have some recordings, but
deleted them as they didn't seem very interesting. Whatever,
questions may be raised in due course by the police examiner's
report once the car is retrieved.
He certainly seems to have moved her enough to convince all bystanders,
and the police who attended the accident, that Alice was the driver.
I'm sure the truth will come out eventually but I'm not sure how long
this is going to take.
Not heard tonight's. Is it likely, after diving in twice to rescue
people in the cars, George then went off, presumably soaking wet and
cold, to move Alice, without anyone noticing?
Serena Blanchflower
2024-05-09 05:54:26 UTC
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Post by Vicky
On Wed, 8 May 2024 21:31:58 +0100, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by Iain Archer
Post by J. P. Gilliver
[]
Post by Pete W
Post by J. P. Gilliver
Don't know how tonight's activities will change things. Logically,
"George done good" ought to give him further opportunities to get away
with even more bad, but knowing how (some) SWs work, he might have a
Damascene conversion and thus suffer PTF. I sort of hope not - it would
be nice to get rid of Bad George, but would be very implausible.
"George done good"? Did he? If I heard it correctly, if I didn't I'm
sure somebody will correct me, he was driving Alice home and after the
accident, he moved Alice into the driver seat to make appear she was
driving, not him. Doesn't sound like "done good" to me.
Ah, but those attending after the event won't know about that, only that
George did some of the rescuing. At least, I _think_ he did - this not
being television, I am not sure who did what.
Did George actually move her, or just say that he did? ISTR something
that ?he said, about not being able to access one door as it was jammed
by a rock, or something similar. I did have some recordings, but
deleted them as they didn't seem very interesting. Whatever,
questions may be raised in due course by the police examiner's
report once the car is retrieved.
He certainly seems to have moved her enough to convince all bystanders,
and the police who attended the accident, that Alice was the driver.
I'm sure the truth will come out eventually but I'm not sure how long
this is going to take.
Not heard tonight's. Is it likely, after diving in twice to rescue
people in the cars, George then went off, presumably soaking wet and
cold, to move Alice, without anyone noticing?
Yes. Everyone was fussing over Fallon and Joy, making sure they were
OK. George knew that, if they realised that he had been the other
driver, he would change from being seen as the hero of the hour to the
villain, and wasn't prepared to see that happen. He had, just about,
moved Alice by the time Alistair realised he'd gone and followed him.
George then declared Alice to have been the other driver and no one saw
any reason to disbelieve him.
--
Best wishes, Serena
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside a dog, it's too
dark to read. (Groucho Marx)
Jane Vernon
2024-05-09 07:06:09 UTC
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Post by Vicky
On Wed, 8 May 2024 21:31:58 +0100, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by J. P. Gilliver
On Mon, 6 May 2024 19:45:02 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver"
[]
Post by J. P. Gilliver
Don't know how tonight's activities will change things. Logically,
"George done good" ought to give him further opportunities to get away
with even more bad, but knowing how (some) SWs work, he might have a
Damascene conversion and thus suffer PTF. I sort of hope not - it would
be nice to get rid of Bad George, but would be very implausible.
"George done good"? Did he? If I heard it correctly, if I didn't I'm
sure somebody will correct me, he was driving Alice home  and
after the
accident, he moved Alice into the driver seat to make appear she was
driving, not him. Doesn't sound like "done good" to me.
Ah, but those attending after the event won't know about that, only that
George did some of the rescuing. At least, I _think_ he did - this not
being television, I am not sure who did what.
Did George actually move her, or just say that he did?  ISTR something
that ?he said, about not being able to access one door as it was jammed
by  a rock, or something similar.  I did have some recordings, but
deleted them as they didn't seem very interesting.   Whatever,
questions may be raised in due course by the police examiner's
report once the car is retrieved.
He certainly seems to have moved her enough to convince all bystanders,
and the police who attended the accident, that Alice was the driver.
I'm sure the truth will come out eventually but I'm  not sure how long
this is going to take.
Not heard tonight's. Is it likely, after diving in twice to rescue
people in the cars, George then went off, presumably soaking wet and
cold, to move Alice, without anyone noticing?
Yes.  Everyone was fussing over Fallon and Joy, making sure they were
OK.  George knew that, if they realised that he had been the other
driver, he would change from being seen as the hero of the hour to the
villain, and wasn't prepared to see that happen.  He had, just about,
moved Alice by the time Alistair realised he'd gone and followed him.
George then declared Alice to have been the other driver and no one saw
any reason to disbelieve him.
This storyline is hideous. (I have listened to Wednesday's episode now).
I won't stop listening, because I never do. But I hate it and I hate
George most of all. The part of me which looks for the good in everyone
is sorely tested at the moment. If he were a real person, what could be
the explanation (not excuse) for how deeply unpleasant he is?
--
Jane
The Amethyst Artist
BTME

http://www.clothandclay.co.uk/umra/cookbook.htm - Umrats' recipes
J. P. Gilliver
2024-05-09 08:05:10 UTC
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In message <***@mid.individual.net> at Thu, 9 May 2024
08:06:09, Jane Vernon <***@nopotteratthisaddress.co.uk> writes
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Post by Jane Vernon
This storyline is hideous. (I have listened to Wednesday's episode
now). I won't stop listening, because I never do. But I hate it and I
hate George most of all. The part of me which looks for the good in
everyone is sorely tested at the moment. If he were a real person,
I think I have a bit of that - I'm cynical and wary, but I _think_ I
tend to give new people a bit of slack until I know them. With certain
exceptions - doorstep or 'phone callers for example, or street badgers.
Post by Jane Vernon
what could be the explanation (not excuse) for how deeply unpleasant he
is?
I suppose upbringing/background. Certainly not an _excuse_ (like having
been to boarding school in my case: lots of people did and haven't), but
a possible _explanation_, or contributory factor. Especially if he saw
his siblings (or whatever) being treated differently from him, or even
just thinks he did.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)***@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Democracy is when two wolves and a sheep decide what is for dinner.
(quoted by) Ipraylam, 2015-07-13
Serena Blanchflower
2024-05-09 08:16:21 UTC
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Post by Jane Vernon
Post by Vicky
On Wed, 8 May 2024 21:31:58 +0100, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by J. P. Gilliver
On Mon, 6 May 2024 19:45:02 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver"
[]
Post by J. P. Gilliver
Don't know how tonight's activities will change things. Logically,
"George done good" ought to give him further opportunities to get away
with even more bad, but knowing how (some) SWs work, he might have a
Damascene conversion and thus suffer PTF. I sort of hope not - it would
be nice to get rid of Bad George, but would be very implausible.
"George done good"? Did he? If I heard it correctly, if I didn't I'm
sure somebody will correct me, he was driving Alice home  and
after the
accident, he moved Alice into the driver seat to make appear she was
driving, not him. Doesn't sound like "done good" to me.
Ah, but those attending after the event won't know about that, only that
George did some of the rescuing. At least, I _think_ he did - this not
being television, I am not sure who did what.
Did George actually move her, or just say that he did?  ISTR something
that ?he said, about not being able to access one door as it was jammed
by  a rock, or something similar.  I did have some recordings, but
deleted them as they didn't seem very interesting.   Whatever,
questions may be raised in due course by the police examiner's
report once the car is retrieved.
He certainly seems to have moved her enough to convince all bystanders,
and the police who attended the accident, that Alice was the driver.
I'm sure the truth will come out eventually but I'm  not sure how long
this is going to take.
Not heard tonight's. Is it likely, after diving in twice to rescue
people in the cars, George then went off, presumably soaking wet and
cold, to move Alice, without anyone noticing?
Yes.  Everyone was fussing over Fallon and Joy, making sure they were
OK.  George knew that, if they realised that he had been the other
driver, he would change from being seen as the hero of the hour to the
villain, and wasn't prepared to see that happen.  He had, just about,
moved Alice by the time Alistair realised he'd gone and followed him.
George then declared Alice to have been the other driver and no one
saw any reason to disbelieve him.
This storyline is hideous. (I have listened to Wednesday's episode now).
 I won't stop listening, because I never do.  But I hate it and I hate
George most of all.  The part of me which looks for the good in everyone
is sorely tested at the moment.  If he were a real person, what could be
the explanation (not excuse) for how deeply unpleasant he is?
We do, occasionally, see a glimpse of a nicer person inside George. It
is depressingly rare though. I do think it would have been a miracle
though, if he'd grown up to be an even vaguely well balanced, decent
guy. Remember everything that was going on, when he was a baby and on,
through his childhood.

As a baby, and young child, he was in the centre of the battle royal
between Will, Ed and Emma, surrounded by huge anger and resentment
flying in all directions. Then, as a child, he was frequently
weaponised as a way for Will and Ed/Emma to get back at one another,
alongside Will trying to buy his affections. There was then a period of
relative normalcy[1] when Will and Nic were together, followed by Nic's
death and all the grief and drama surrounding that.

As it is, he appears to have inherited the worst characteristics of both
the Grundys and the Horrobins.


[1] But not till he was well past the age of seven, which the Jesuits
claim as the age when a person's character will be set.
--
Best wishes, Serena
My doctor told me to keep in shape. Well, this is my shape and I'm
keeping it (anon)
Vicky
2024-05-09 09:18:01 UTC
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On Thu, 9 May 2024 09:16:21 +0100, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
We do, occasionally, see a glimpse of a nicer person inside George. It
is depressingly rare though.
I don't think we do. I think those are motivated by self-interest.
Kosmo
2024-05-09 13:38:21 UTC
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But not till he was well past the age of seven, which the Jesuits claim
as the age when a person's character will  be set.
Possibly. The tests we used to administer to staff to identify their
personalities indicated quite often that a person tested on recruitment
from school (say 16 in those days) and 10 years later when applying for
promotion or similar that the personality had changed - it is called
growing up.
--
Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
https://tinyurl.com/KRWpics
Serena Blanchflower
2024-05-09 14:39:21 UTC
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Post by Serena Blanchflower
But not till he was well past the age of seven, which the Jesuits
claim as the age when a person's character will  be set.
Possibly.  The tests we used to administer to staff to identify their
personalities indicated quite often that a person tested on recruitment
from school (say 16 in those days) and 10 years later when applying for
promotion or similar that the personality had changed - it is called
growing up.
Yes, I agree, there is hope for him, if something makes him decide he
wants to change. Although his family is less dysfunctional than it was
when he was a young child though, it hasn't exactly done anything to
encourage him to develop better values or behaviour.
--
Best wishes, Serena
I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not sure.
Sam Plusnet
2024-05-09 19:49:14 UTC
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Post by Vicky
On Wed, 8 May 2024 21:31:58 +0100, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by J. P. Gilliver
On Mon, 6 May 2024 19:45:02 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver"
[]
Post by J. P. Gilliver
Don't know how tonight's activities will change things. Logically,
"George done good" ought to give him further opportunities to get away
with even more bad, but knowing how (some) SWs work, he might have a
Damascene conversion and thus suffer PTF. I sort of hope not - it would
be nice to get rid of Bad George, but would be very implausible.
"George done good"? Did he? If I heard it correctly, if I didn't I'm
sure somebody will correct me, he was driving Alice home  and
after the
accident, he moved Alice into the driver seat to make appear she was
driving, not him. Doesn't sound like "done good" to me.
Ah, but those attending after the event won't know about that, only that
George did some of the rescuing. At least, I _think_ he did - this not
being television, I am not sure who did what.
Did George actually move her, or just say that he did?  ISTR something
that ?he said, about not being able to access one door as it was jammed
by  a rock, or something similar.  I did have some recordings, but
deleted them as they didn't seem very interesting.   Whatever,
questions may be raised in due course by the police examiner's
report once the car is retrieved.
He certainly seems to have moved her enough to convince all bystanders,
and the police who attended the accident, that Alice was the driver.
I'm sure the truth will come out eventually but I'm  not sure how long
this is going to take.
Not heard tonight's. Is it likely, after diving in twice to rescue
people in the cars, George then went off, presumably soaking wet and
cold, to move Alice, without anyone noticing?
Yes.  Everyone was fussing over Fallon and Joy, making sure they were
OK.  George knew that, if they realised that he had been the other
driver, he would change from being seen as the hero of the hour to
the villain, and wasn't prepared to see that happen.  He had, just
about, moved Alice by the time Alistair realised he'd gone and
followed him. George then declared Alice to have been the other
driver and no one saw any reason to disbelieve him.
This storyline is hideous. (I have listened to Wednesday's episode
now).   I won't stop listening, because I never do.  But I hate it and
I hate George most of all.  The part of me which looks for the good in
everyone is sorely tested at the moment.  If he were a real person,
what could be the explanation (not excuse) for how deeply unpleasant
he is?
We do, occasionally, see a glimpse of a nicer person inside George.  It
is depressingly rare though.  I do think it would have been a miracle
though, if he'd grown up to be an even vaguely well balanced, decent
guy.  Remember everything that was going on, when he was a baby and on,
through his childhood.
As a baby, and young child, he was in the centre of the battle royal
between Will, Ed and Emma, surrounded by huge anger and resentment
flying in all directions.  Then, as a child, he was frequently
weaponised as a way for Will and Ed/Emma to get back at one another,
alongside Will trying to buy his affections.  There was then a period of
relative normalcy[1] when Will and Nic were together, followed by Nic's
death and all the grief and drama surrounding that.
As it is, he appears to have inherited the worst characteristics of both
the Grundys and the Horrobins.
If only Will, Ed and Emma had adopted the King Solomon solution to this
problem.
--
Sam Plusnet
Serena Blanchflower
2024-05-09 20:10:34 UTC
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Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by Jane Vernon
Post by Vicky
On Wed, 8 May 2024 21:31:58 +0100, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by J. P. Gilliver
On Mon, 6 May 2024 19:45:02 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver"
[]
Post by J. P. Gilliver
Don't know how tonight's activities will change things. Logically,
"George done good" ought to give him further opportunities to get away
with even more bad, but knowing how (some) SWs work, he might have a
Damascene conversion and thus suffer PTF. I sort of hope not - it would
be nice to get rid of Bad George, but would be very implausible.
"George done good"? Did he? If I heard it correctly, if I didn't I'm
sure somebody will correct me, he was driving Alice home  and
after the
accident, he moved Alice into the driver seat to make appear she was
driving, not him. Doesn't sound like "done good" to me.
Ah, but those attending after the event won't know about that, only that
George did some of the rescuing. At least, I _think_ he did - this not
being television, I am not sure who did what.
Did George actually move her, or just say that he did?  ISTR something
that ?he said, about not being able to access one door as it was jammed
by  a rock, or something similar.  I did have some recordings, but
deleted them as they didn't seem very interesting.   Whatever,
questions may be raised in due course by the police examiner's
report once the car is retrieved.
He certainly seems to have moved her enough to convince all bystanders,
and the police who attended the accident, that Alice was the driver.
I'm sure the truth will come out eventually but I'm  not sure how long
this is going to take.
Not heard tonight's. Is it likely, after diving in twice to rescue
people in the cars, George then went off, presumably soaking wet and
cold, to move Alice, without anyone noticing?
Yes.  Everyone was fussing over Fallon and Joy, making sure they
were OK.  George knew that, if they realised that he had been the
other driver, he would change from being seen as the hero of the
hour to the villain, and wasn't prepared to see that happen.  He
had, just about, moved Alice by the time Alistair realised he'd gone
and followed him. George then declared Alice to have been the other
driver and no one saw any reason to disbelieve him.
This storyline is hideous. (I have listened to Wednesday's episode
now).   I won't stop listening, because I never do.  But I hate it
and I hate George most of all.  The part of me which looks for the
good in everyone is sorely tested at the moment.  If he were a real
person, what could be the explanation (not excuse) for how deeply
unpleasant he is?
We do, occasionally, see a glimpse of a nicer person inside George.
It is depressingly rare though.  I do think it would have been a
miracle though, if he'd grown up to be an even vaguely well balanced,
decent guy.  Remember everything that was going on, when he was a baby
and on, through his childhood.
As a baby, and young child, he was in the centre of the battle royal
between Will, Ed and Emma, surrounded by huge anger and resentment
flying in all directions.  Then, as a child, he was frequently
weaponised as a way for Will and Ed/Emma to get back at one another,
alongside Will trying to buy his affections.  There was then a period
of relative normalcy[1] when Will and Nic were together, followed by
Nic's death and all the grief and drama surrounding that.
As it is, he appears to have inherited the worst characteristics of
both the Grundys and the Horrobins.
If only Will, Ed and Emma had adopted the King Solomon solution to this
problem.
BTN!
--
Best wishes, Serena
I love people who make me laugh. I honestly think it's the thing I like
most, to laugh. It cures a multitude of ills. It's probably the most
important thing in a person. (Audrey Hepburn)
Vicky
2024-05-09 21:13:59 UTC
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Post by Sam Plusnet
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by Jane Vernon
Post by Vicky
On Wed, 8 May 2024 21:31:58 +0100, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by J. P. Gilliver
On Mon, 6 May 2024 19:45:02 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver"
[]
Post by J. P. Gilliver
Don't know how tonight's activities will change things. Logically,
"George done good" ought to give him further opportunities to get away
with even more bad, but knowing how (some) SWs work, he might have a
Damascene conversion and thus suffer PTF. I sort of hope not - it would
be nice to get rid of Bad George, but would be very implausible.
"George done good"? Did he? If I heard it correctly, if I didn't I'm
sure somebody will correct me, he was driving Alice home  and
after the
accident, he moved Alice into the driver seat to make appear she was
driving, not him. Doesn't sound like "done good" to me.
Ah, but those attending after the event won't know about that, only that
George did some of the rescuing. At least, I _think_ he did - this not
being television, I am not sure who did what.
Did George actually move her, or just say that he did?  ISTR something
that ?he said, about not being able to access one door as it was jammed
by  a rock, or something similar.  I did have some recordings, but
deleted them as they didn't seem very interesting.   Whatever,
questions may be raised in due course by the police examiner's
report once the car is retrieved.
He certainly seems to have moved her enough to convince all bystanders,
and the police who attended the accident, that Alice was the driver.
I'm sure the truth will come out eventually but I'm  not sure how long
this is going to take.
Not heard tonight's. Is it likely, after diving in twice to rescue
people in the cars, George then went off, presumably soaking wet and
cold, to move Alice, without anyone noticing?
Yes.  Everyone was fussing over Fallon and Joy, making sure they
were OK.  George knew that, if they realised that he had been the
other driver, he would change from being seen as the hero of the
hour to the villain, and wasn't prepared to see that happen.  He
had, just about, moved Alice by the time Alistair realised he'd gone
and followed him. George then declared Alice to have been the other
driver and no one saw any reason to disbelieve him.
This storyline is hideous. (I have listened to Wednesday's episode
now).   I won't stop listening, because I never do.  But I hate it
and I hate George most of all.  The part of me which looks for the
good in everyone is sorely tested at the moment.  If he were a real
person, what could be the explanation (not excuse) for how deeply
unpleasant he is?
We do, occasionally, see a glimpse of a nicer person inside George.
It is depressingly rare though.  I do think it would have been a
miracle though, if he'd grown up to be an even vaguely well balanced,
decent guy.  Remember everything that was going on, when he was a baby
and on, through his childhood.
As a baby, and young child, he was in the centre of the battle royal
between Will, Ed and Emma, surrounded by huge anger and resentment
flying in all directions.  Then, as a child, he was frequently
weaponised as a way for Will and Ed/Emma to get back at one another,
alongside Will trying to buy his affections.  There was then a period
of relative normalcy[1] when Will and Nic were together, followed by
Nic's death and all the grief and drama surrounding that.
As it is, he appears to have inherited the worst characteristics of
both the Grundys and the Horrobins.
If only Will, Ed and Emma had adopted the King Solomon solution to this
problem.
BTN!
I did listen to tonight's episode, although just read yesterday's,
because the spoiler worried me. Now I've just read on fb that Alice
talked to Chris about the vodka bottle being in the car and fruit
cider ones too, which she felt made things worse as she'd never
normally have drunk that.

I heard that but didn't note that in an earlier episode, which I
either read or heard presumably, it was George who bought the cider
in the shop, served by Joy, just before Alice bought the vodka. If
Alice found the bottles in the car George must have had them with him.
The fb post queried whether Joy would remember who bought the cider
bottles and talk to Mick or even Harrison about it. It would suggest
he had been in the car.
Nick Odell
2024-05-10 18:45:47 UTC
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On Thu, 9 May 2024 21:10:34 +0100, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Sam Plusnet
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by Jane Vernon
Post by Vicky
On Wed, 8 May 2024 21:31:58 +0100, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by J. P. Gilliver
On Mon, 6 May 2024 19:45:02 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver"
[]
Post by J. P. Gilliver
Don't know how tonight's activities will change things. Logically,
"George done good" ought to give him further opportunities to get away
with even more bad, but knowing how (some) SWs work, he might have a
Damascene conversion and thus suffer PTF. I sort of hope not - it would
be nice to get rid of Bad George, but would be very implausible.
"George done good"? Did he? If I heard it correctly, if I didn't I'm
sure somebody will correct me, he was driving Alice home  and
after the
accident, he moved Alice into the driver seat to make appear she was
driving, not him. Doesn't sound like "done good" to me.
Ah, but those attending after the event won't know about that, only that
George did some of the rescuing. At least, I _think_ he did - this not
being television, I am not sure who did what.
Did George actually move her, or just say that he did?  ISTR something
that ?he said, about not being able to access one door as it was jammed
by  a rock, or something similar.  I did have some recordings, but
deleted them as they didn't seem very interesting.   Whatever,
questions may be raised in due course by the police examiner's
report once the car is retrieved.
He certainly seems to have moved her enough to convince all bystanders,
and the police who attended the accident, that Alice was the driver.
I'm sure the truth will come out eventually but I'm  not sure how long
this is going to take.
Not heard tonight's. Is it likely, after diving in twice to rescue
people in the cars, George then went off, presumably soaking wet and
cold, to move Alice, without anyone noticing?
Yes.  Everyone was fussing over Fallon and Joy, making sure they
were OK.  George knew that, if they realised that he had been the
other driver, he would change from being seen as the hero of the
hour to the villain, and wasn't prepared to see that happen.  He
had, just about, moved Alice by the time Alistair realised he'd gone
and followed him. George then declared Alice to have been the other
driver and no one saw any reason to disbelieve him.
This storyline is hideous. (I have listened to Wednesday's episode
now).   I won't stop listening, because I never do.  But I hate it
and I hate George most of all.  The part of me which looks for the
good in everyone is sorely tested at the moment.  If he were a real
person, what could be the explanation (not excuse) for how deeply
unpleasant he is?
We do, occasionally, see a glimpse of a nicer person inside George.
It is depressingly rare though.  I do think it would have been a
miracle though, if he'd grown up to be an even vaguely well balanced,
decent guy.  Remember everything that was going on, when he was a baby
and on, through his childhood.
As a baby, and young child, he was in the centre of the battle royal
between Will, Ed and Emma, surrounded by huge anger and resentment
flying in all directions.  Then, as a child, he was frequently
weaponised as a way for Will and Ed/Emma to get back at one another,
alongside Will trying to buy his affections.  There was then a period
of relative normalcy[1] when Will and Nic were together, followed by
Nic's death and all the grief and drama surrounding that.
As it is, he appears to have inherited the worst characteristics of
both the Grundys and the Horrobins.
If only Will, Ed and Emma had adopted the King Solomon solution to this
problem.
BTN!
Seconded!

N.
Rosie Mitchell
2024-05-11 23:15:12 UTC
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Post by Sam Plusnet
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by Jane Vernon
Post by Vicky
On Wed, 8 May 2024 21:31:58 +0100, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by J. P. Gilliver
On Mon, 6 May 2024 19:45:02 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver"
[]
Post by J. P. Gilliver
Don't know how tonight's activities will change
things. Logically,
"George done good" ought to give him further opportunities to get away
with even more bad, but knowing how (some) SWs work, he might have a
Damascene conversion and thus suffer PTF. I sort of hope not - it would
be nice to get rid of Bad George, but would be very implausible.
"George done good"? Did he? If I heard it correctly, if I didn't I'm
sure somebody will correct me, he was driving Alice home 
and after the
accident, he moved Alice into the driver seat to make appear she was
driving, not him. Doesn't sound like "done good" to me.
Ah, but those attending after the event won't know about that, only that
George did some of the rescuing. At least, I _think_ he did - this not
being television, I am not sure who did what.
Did George actually move her, or just say that he did?  ISTR something
that ?he said, about not being able to access one door as it was jammed
by  a rock, or something similar.  I did have some recordings, but
deleted them as they didn't seem very interesting.   Whatever,
questions may be raised in due course by the police examiner's
report once the car is retrieved.
He certainly seems to have moved her enough to convince all bystanders,
and the police who attended the accident, that Alice was the driver.
I'm sure the truth will come out eventually but I'm  not sure how long
this is going to take.
Not heard tonight's. Is it likely, after diving in twice to rescue
people in the cars, George then went off, presumably soaking wet and
cold, to move Alice, without anyone noticing?
Yes.  Everyone was fussing over Fallon and Joy, making sure they
were OK.  George knew that, if they realised that he had been the
other driver, he would change from being seen as the hero of the
hour to the villain, and wasn't prepared to see that happen.  He
had, just about, moved Alice by the time Alistair realised he'd
gone and followed him. George then declared Alice to have been
the other driver and no one saw any reason to disbelieve him.
This storyline is hideous. (I have listened to Wednesday's episode
now).   I won't stop listening, because I never do.  But I hate it
and I hate George most of all.  The part of me which looks for the
good in everyone is sorely tested at the moment.  If he were a
real person, what could be the explanation (not excuse) for how
deeply unpleasant he is?
We do, occasionally, see a glimpse of a nicer person inside George.
It is depressingly rare though.  I do think it would have been a
miracle though, if he'd grown up to be an even vaguely well
balanced, decent guy.  Remember everything that was going on, when
he was a baby and on, through his childhood.
As a baby, and young child, he was in the centre of the battle
royal between Will, Ed and Emma, surrounded by huge anger and
resentment flying in all directions.  Then, as a child, he was
frequently weaponised as a way for Will and Ed/Emma to get back at
one another, alongside Will trying to buy his affections.  There
was then a period of relative normalcy[1] when Will and Nic were
together, followed by Nic's death and all the grief and drama
surrounding that.
As it is, he appears to have inherited the worst characteristics of
both the Grundys and the Horrobins.
If only Will, Ed and Emma had adopted the King Solomon solution to
this problem.
BTN!
Yes

Rosie

Vicky
2024-05-09 09:16:11 UTC
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On Thu, 9 May 2024 08:06:09 +0100, Jane Vernon
Post by Jane Vernon
Post by Vicky
On Wed, 8 May 2024 21:31:58 +0100, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by J. P. Gilliver
On Mon, 6 May 2024 19:45:02 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver"
[]
Post by J. P. Gilliver
Don't know how tonight's activities will change things. Logically,
"George done good" ought to give him further opportunities to get away
with even more bad, but knowing how (some) SWs work, he might have a
Damascene conversion and thus suffer PTF. I sort of hope not - it would
be nice to get rid of Bad George, but would be very implausible.
"George done good"? Did he? If I heard it correctly, if I didn't I'm
sure somebody will correct me, he was driving Alice home  and
after the
accident, he moved Alice into the driver seat to make appear she was
driving, not him. Doesn't sound like "done good" to me.
Ah, but those attending after the event won't know about that, only that
George did some of the rescuing. At least, I _think_ he did - this not
being television, I am not sure who did what.
Did George actually move her, or just say that he did?  ISTR something
that ?he said, about not being able to access one door as it was jammed
by  a rock, or something similar.  I did have some recordings, but
deleted them as they didn't seem very interesting.   Whatever,
questions may be raised in due course by the police examiner's
report once the car is retrieved.
He certainly seems to have moved her enough to convince all bystanders,
and the police who attended the accident, that Alice was the driver.
I'm sure the truth will come out eventually but I'm  not sure how long
this is going to take.
Not heard tonight's. Is it likely, after diving in twice to rescue
people in the cars, George then went off, presumably soaking wet and
cold, to move Alice, without anyone noticing?
Yes.  Everyone was fussing over Fallon and Joy, making sure they were
OK.  George knew that, if they realised that he had been the other
driver, he would change from being seen as the hero of the hour to the
villain, and wasn't prepared to see that happen.  He had, just about,
moved Alice by the time Alistair realised he'd gone and followed him.
George then declared Alice to have been the other driver and no one saw
any reason to disbelieve him.
This storyline is hideous. (I have listened to Wednesday's episode now).
I won't stop listening, because I never do. But I hate it and I hate
George most of all. The part of me which looks for the good in everyone
is sorely tested at the moment. If he were a real person, what could be
the explanation (not excuse) for how deeply unpleasant he is?
I agree. I don't think Matt or Vince would havee moved Alice to take
the blame. Is it partly his youth? He is still in a Babygro?
Kosmo
2024-05-09 13:39:34 UTC
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Post by Vicky
On Thu, 9 May 2024 08:06:09 +0100, Jane Vernon
Post by Jane Vernon
Post by Vicky
On Wed, 8 May 2024 21:31:58 +0100, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by J. P. Gilliver
On Mon, 6 May 2024 19:45:02 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver"
[]
Post by J. P. Gilliver
Don't know how tonight's activities will change things. Logically,
"George done good" ought to give him further opportunities to get away
with even more bad, but knowing how (some) SWs work, he might have a
Damascene conversion and thus suffer PTF. I sort of hope not - it would
be nice to get rid of Bad George, but would be very implausible.
"George done good"? Did he? If I heard it correctly, if I didn't I'm
sure somebody will correct me, he was driving Alice home  and
after the
accident, he moved Alice into the driver seat to make appear she was
driving, not him. Doesn't sound like "done good" to me.
Ah, but those attending after the event won't know about that, only that
George did some of the rescuing. At least, I _think_ he did - this not
being television, I am not sure who did what.
Did George actually move her, or just say that he did?  ISTR something
that ?he said, about not being able to access one door as it was jammed
by  a rock, or something similar.  I did have some recordings, but
deleted them as they didn't seem very interesting.   Whatever,
questions may be raised in due course by the police examiner's
report once the car is retrieved.
He certainly seems to have moved her enough to convince all bystanders,
and the police who attended the accident, that Alice was the driver.
I'm sure the truth will come out eventually but I'm  not sure how long
this is going to take.
Not heard tonight's. Is it likely, after diving in twice to rescue
people in the cars, George then went off, presumably soaking wet and
cold, to move Alice, without anyone noticing?
Yes.  Everyone was fussing over Fallon and Joy, making sure they were
OK.  George knew that, if they realised that he had been the other
driver, he would change from being seen as the hero of the hour to the
villain, and wasn't prepared to see that happen.  He had, just about,
moved Alice by the time Alistair realised he'd gone and followed him.
George then declared Alice to have been the other driver and no one saw
any reason to disbelieve him.
This storyline is hideous. (I have listened to Wednesday's episode now).
I won't stop listening, because I never do. But I hate it and I hate
George most of all. The part of me which looks for the good in everyone
is sorely tested at the moment. If he were a real person, what could be
the explanation (not excuse) for how deeply unpleasant he is?
I agree. I don't think Matt or Vince would havee moved Alice to take
the blame. Is it partly his youth? He is still in a Babygro?
In the appropriate circumstances both of them and Justin are capable of
that. Indeed they might all do it before rescuing people from the river.
--
Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
https://tinyurl.com/KRWpics
J. P. Gilliver
2024-05-09 20:48:16 UTC
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Post by Vicky
I agree. I don't think Matt or Vince would havee moved Alice to take
I do - Matt at least. He was IMO just thoroughly nasty, even if he did
generate the Sunny chuckle sometimes.
Post by Kosmo
Post by Vicky
the blame. Is it partly his youth? He is still in a Babygro?
In the appropriate circumstances both of them and Justin are capable of
that. Indeed they might all do it before rescuing people from the river.
Nasty. But agreed - certainly if no-one else was about.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)***@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I
have one. -Cato the Elder, statesman, soldier, and writer (234-149 BCE)
Kosmo
2024-05-09 13:36:07 UTC
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what could be the explanation (not excuse) for how deeply unpleasant he is?
I think one must blame the parents.
--
Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
https://tinyurl.com/KRWpics
Sam Plusnet
2024-05-09 19:54:31 UTC
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Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by J. P. Gilliver
[]
Post by Pete W
Post by J. P. Gilliver
Don't know how tonight's activities will change things. Logically,
"George done good" ought to give him further opportunities to get away
with even more bad, but knowing how (some) SWs work, he might have a
Damascene conversion and thus suffer PTF. I sort of hope not - it would
be nice to get rid of Bad George, but would be very implausible.
"George done good"? Did he? If I heard it correctly, if I didn't I'm
sure somebody will correct me, he was driving Alice home  and after the
accident, he moved Alice into the driver seat to make appear she was
driving, not him. Doesn't sound like "done good" to me.
Ah, but those attending after the event won't know about that, only that
George did some of the rescuing. At least, I _think_ he did - this not
being television, I am not sure who did what.
Did George actually move her, or just say that he did?  ISTR something
that ?he said, about not being able to access one door as it was jammed
by  a rock, or something similar.  I did have some recordings, but
deleted them as they didn't seem very interesting.   Whatever,
questions may be raised in due course by the police examiner's
report once the car is retrieved.
He certainly seems to have moved her enough to convince all bystanders,
and the police who attended the accident, that Alice was the driver. I'm
sure the truth will come out eventually but I'm  not sure how long this
is going to take.
How much more satisfying (from the Editor's point of view) to have a
small number of people who know he's a wrong 'un, another group who
suspect it, whilst the majority still think he is a jolly good chap?
--
Sam Plusnet
Vicky
2024-05-09 20:44:47 UTC
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Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by J. P. Gilliver
[]
Post by Pete W
Post by J. P. Gilliver
Don't know how tonight's activities will change things. Logically,
"George done good" ought to give him further opportunities to get away
with even more bad, but knowing how (some) SWs work, he might have a
Damascene conversion and thus suffer PTF. I sort of hope not - it would
be nice to get rid of Bad George, but would be very implausible.
"George done good"? Did he? If I heard it correctly, if I didn't I'm
sure somebody will correct me, he was driving Alice home  and after the
accident, he moved Alice into the driver seat to make appear she was
driving, not him. Doesn't sound like "done good" to me.
Ah, but those attending after the event won't know about that, only that
George did some of the rescuing. At least, I _think_ he did - this not
being television, I am not sure who did what.
Did George actually move her, or just say that he did?  ISTR something
that ?he said, about not being able to access one door as it was jammed
by  a rock, or something similar.  I did have some recordings, but
deleted them as they didn't seem very interesting.   Whatever,
questions may be raised in due course by the police examiner's
report once the car is retrieved.
He certainly seems to have moved her enough to convince all bystanders,
and the police who attended the accident, that Alice was the driver. I'm
sure the truth will come out eventually but I'm  not sure how long this
is going to take.
How much more satisfying (from the Editor's point of view) to have a
small number of people who know he's a wrong 'un, another group who
suspect it, whilst the majority still think he is a jolly good chap?
Unfortunately Brian and Kate shut her up when she began to try and
remember what happened and they convinced her she heard George after
the crash. The belief that she was driving is damaging her, so she's
told Chris to keep Martha as she thinks she can't be trusted with her.
Although the first drink was when Martha was upstairs and she was
alone in the house with her. The only hopeful thing tonight was Chris
not thinking the scenario as he'd heard it worked. Maybe he will ask
Harrison to investigate.
Nick Odell
2024-05-08 22:00:06 UTC
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Post by Iain Archer
This post may contain language and attitudes belonging to the
period in which it was written.
I like the .sig - is it new?

Nick
Chris
2024-05-09 08:22:24 UTC
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Post by Pete W
Post by J. P. Gilliver
[]
Post by Mike McMillan
I accidentally heard the tragedy trailer just before the midday news today;
sounds to me as though Alice is contemplating suicide (so obviously, this
is NOT what is about to happen) but, I can’t help feeling that such an
event might be an improvement to future plot lines (sorry but my hate for
Alice is only exceeded by my hate for Kate!) Still not listening though…
I had forgotten that I hate Kate - really, worse than a waste of space
as she actually causes trouble - in my recent new hate for George.
Don't know how tonight's activities will change things. Logically,
"George done good" ought to give him further opportunities to get away
with even more bad, but knowing how (some) SWs work, he might have a
Damascene conversion and thus suffer PTF. I sort of hope not - it would
be nice to get rid of Bad George, but would be very implausible.
"George done good"? Did he? If I heard it correctly, if I didn't I'm
sure somebody will correct me, he was driving Alice home and after
the accident, he moved Alice into the driver seat to make appear she
was driving, not him. Doesn't sound like "done good" to me.
---
Pete.
He rescued someone or other. Or both.

Mrs McT
Pete W
2024-05-09 13:38:41 UTC
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On Thu, 9 May 2024 08:22:24 -0000 (UTC), Chris
Post by Chris
Post by Pete W
Post by J. P. Gilliver
[]
Post by Mike McMillan
I accidentally heard the tragedy trailer just before the midday news today;
sounds to me as though Alice is contemplating suicide (so obviously, this
is NOT what is about to happen) but, I can?t help feeling that such an
event might be an improvement to future plot lines (sorry but my hate for
Alice is only exceeded by my hate for Kate!) Still not listening though?
I had forgotten that I hate Kate - really, worse than a waste of space
as she actually causes trouble - in my recent new hate for George.
Don't know how tonight's activities will change things. Logically,
"George done good" ought to give him further opportunities to get away
with even more bad, but knowing how (some) SWs work, he might have a
Damascene conversion and thus suffer PTF. I sort of hope not - it would
be nice to get rid of Bad George, but would be very implausible.
"George done good"? Did he? If I heard it correctly, if I didn't I'm
sure somebody will correct me, he was driving Alice home and after
the accident, he moved Alice into the driver seat to make appear she
was driving, not him. Doesn't sound like "done good" to me.
---
Pete.
He rescued someone or other. Or both.
Indeed he did, but as I said he also moved Alice into the driver's
seat so that she would take all the blame for the accident.

And now we know, due to Will's incompetence with a mobile phone
he's been able to delete the message he left saying he was driving
Alice home.

On balance, to me, the "done bad" outweighs the "done good"

Other people's feelings might differ.
---
Pete.
Kosmo
2024-05-07 09:05:22 UTC
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Post by Nick Odell
Post by Vicky
https://www.ambridgereporter.org.uk/synopses/2024.html
BBC don't put Friday up and anyway theirs are minimal but these are
very full and, while I want to keep up to date and discuss , I don't
want to listen at present. Sadly as miss some other stuff.
Berloimey! If it's a synopsis, shouldn't it take less time to read
than the actual thing itself?
Nick
And unlike the earlier synopses which Brenda Selwyn has archived these
appear to be a one man writing exercise - a real transcript of the
transmission. Highly impressive and I have not previously seen them!
--
Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
https://tinyurl.com/KRWpics
Vicky
2024-05-07 11:05:50 UTC
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Post by Kosmo
Post by Nick Odell
Post by Vicky
https://www.ambridgereporter.org.uk/synopses/2024.html
BBC don't put Friday up and anyway theirs are minimal but these are
very full and, while I want to keep up to date and discuss , I don't
want to listen at present. Sadly as miss some other stuff.
Berloimey! If it's a synopsis, shouldn't it take less time to read
than the actual thing itself?
Nick
And unlike the earlier synopses which Brenda Selwyn has archived these
appear to be a one man writing exercise - a real transcript of the
transmission. Highly impressive and I have not previously seen them!
I had not either but Friday BBC one never appeared so I searched.
Sunday is therer but Monday not, but the BBC one for last night is.

Nuggering George. And i didn't say nuggering. If he'd left the keys in
the glove box and Alice asleep all would havee been well. HE CRASHED.
Now nobody will believe Alice.OPIHJ{(*YP!!!!!
Kosmo
2024-05-08 09:50:21 UTC
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Post by Vicky
Post by Kosmo
Post by Nick Odell
Post by Vicky
https://www.ambridgereporter.org.uk/synopses/2024.html
BBC don't put Friday up and anyway theirs are minimal but these are
very full and, while I want to keep up to date and discuss , I don't
want to listen at present. Sadly as miss some other stuff.
Berloimey! If it's a synopsis, shouldn't it take less time to read
than the actual thing itself?
Nick
And unlike the earlier synopses which Brenda Selwyn has archived these
appear to be a one man writing exercise - a real transcript of the
transmission. Highly impressive and I have not previously seen them!
I had not either but Friday BBC one never appeared so I searched.
Sunday is therer but Monday not, but the BBC one for last night is.
Nuggering George. And i didn't say nuggering. If he'd left the keys in
the glove box and Alice asleep all would havee been well. HE CRASHED.
Now nobody will believe Alice.OPIHJ{(*YP!!!!!
Friday's synopsis on the BBC website:
Miranda is revelling in Lilian’s discomfort at her being there in The
Bull for the pub quiz. Brian is determined to win but Kate is not happy
with the team name. Alice is late, and Jakob is on edge. With good
reason it seems after Alice turns up and, clearly the worse for wear,
starts making a nuisance of herself. The family is mortified and Jakob
is all for sneaking her out quietly but they have to wait until a break
in the quiz. Brian suggests they make a quick getaway but Lilian doesn’t
understand why they want to leave until Alice, slurring, says the night
is just getting started. When Jakob tries to take her outside, she
starts making a scene. Back at the cottage, Brian says none of them saw
this coming. He can’t believe they’re back in this situation. Alice goes
to bed, saying Jakob is the only person who is kind to her. From this
they work out Jakob knew she was drinking again. Brian erupts and throws
Jakob out.

George is treating Will and Emma to dinner at Grey Gables. Emma thinks
the hotel’s new uniforms are shocking but is evasive when Will asks what
she thought of the tee shirts and fleeces he bought for the tree surgery
business. She suggest, diplomatically, that his name for the business is
‘a bit of a mouthful’. Emma is horrified by the prices on the menu. And
when the mains arrive, vegetables are not included and George can’t
afford pudding. Despite this they appreciate George’s gesture.
--
Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
https://tinyurl.com/KRWpics
Vicky
2024-05-08 10:24:36 UTC
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Post by Vicky
Post by Kosmo
Post by Nick Odell
Post by Vicky
https://www.ambridgereporter.org.uk/synopses/2024.html
BBC don't put Friday up and anyway theirs are minimal but these are
very full and, while I want to keep up to date and discuss , I don't
want to listen at present. Sadly as miss some other stuff.
Berloimey! If it's a synopsis, shouldn't it take less time to read
than the actual thing itself?
Nick
And unlike the earlier synopses which Brenda Selwyn has archived these
appear to be a one man writing exercise - a real transcript of the
transmission. Highly impressive and I have not previously seen them!
I had not either but Friday BBC one never appeared so I searched.
Sunday is therer but Monday not, but the BBC one for last night is.
Nuggering George. And i didn't say nuggering. If he'd left the keys in
the glove box and Alice asleep all would havee been well. HE CRASHED.
Now nobody will believe Alice.OPIHJ{(*YP!!!!!
Miranda is revelling in Lilian’s discomfort at her being there in The
Bull for the pub quiz. Brian is determined to win but Kate is not happy
with the team name. Alice is late, and Jakob is on edge. With good
reason it seems after Alice turns up and, clearly the worse for wear,
starts making a nuisance of herself. The family is mortified and Jakob
is all for sneaking her out quietly but they have to wait until a break
in the quiz. Brian suggests they make a quick getaway but Lilian doesn’t
understand why they want to leave until Alice, slurring, says the night
is just getting started. When Jakob tries to take her outside, she
starts making a scene. Back at the cottage, Brian says none of them saw
this coming. He can’t believe they’re back in this situation. Alice goes
to bed, saying Jakob is the only person who is kind to her. From this
they work out Jakob knew she was drinking again. Brian erupts and throws
Jakob out.
George is treating Will and Emma to dinner at Grey Gables. Emma thinks
the hotel’s new uniforms are shocking but is evasive when Will asks what
she thought of the tee shirts and fleeces he bought for the tree surgery
business. She suggest, diplomatically, that his name for the business is
‘a bit of a mouthful’. Emma is horrified by the prices on the menu. And
when the mains arrive, vegetables are not included and George can’t
afford pudding. Despite this they appreciate George’s gesture.
Thank you, I can see it now too but Idon't thinkit was there for a lot
longer than it took the other site, but the BBC one was quicker on
either Sunday or Monday but a long time, or maybe both. Forget now.And
neither are there yet for last night.
Vicky
2024-05-08 10:55:02 UTC
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Post by Vicky
Post by Kosmo
Post by Nick Odell
Post by Vicky
https://www.ambridgereporter.org.uk/synopses/2024.html
BBC don't put Friday up and anyway theirs are minimal but these are
very full and, while I want to keep up to date and discuss , I don't
want to listen at present. Sadly as miss some other stuff.
Berloimey! If it's a synopsis, shouldn't it take less time to read
than the actual thing itself?
Nick
And unlike the earlier synopses which Brenda Selwyn has archived these
appear to be a one man writing exercise - a real transcript of the
transmission. Highly impressive and I have not previously seen them!
I had not either but Friday BBC one never appeared so I searched.
Sunday is therer but Monday not, but the BBC one for last night is.
Nuggering George. And i didn't say nuggering. If he'd left the keys in
the glove box and Alice asleep all would havee been well. HE CRASHED.
Now nobody will believe Alice.OPIHJ{(*YP!!!!!
Miranda is revelling in Lilian’s discomfort at her being there in The
Bull for the pub quiz. Brian is determined to win but Kate is not happy
with the team name. Alice is late, and Jakob is on edge. With good
reason it seems after Alice turns up and, clearly the worse for wear,
starts making a nuisance of herself. The family is mortified and Jakob
is all for sneaking her out quietly but they have to wait until a break
in the quiz. Brian suggests they make a quick getaway but Lilian doesn’t
understand why they want to leave until Alice, slurring, says the night
is just getting started. When Jakob tries to take her outside, she
starts making a scene. Back at the cottage, Brian says none of them saw
this coming. He can’t believe they’re back in this situation. Alice goes
to bed, saying Jakob is the only person who is kind to her. From this
they work out Jakob knew she was drinking again. Brian erupts and throws
Jakob out.
George is treating Will and Emma to dinner at Grey Gables. Emma thinks
the hotel’s new uniforms are shocking but is evasive when Will asks what
she thought of the tee shirts and fleeces he bought for the tree surgery
business. She suggest, diplomatically, that his name for the business is
‘a bit of a mouthful’. Emma is horrified by the prices on the menu. And
when the mains arrive, vegetables are not included and George can’t
afford pudding. Despite this they appreciate George’s gesture.
OK because I read fb stuff before or instead of listening I saw them
say Fallon, checked at the hospital, is pregnant. Cue end music. So I
listened to find out, as the Alice stuff is nasty and going to really
annoy me, but I like Fallon and Carpet and know she didn't want
children and he did but prefers to be with her to having them. So I
was interested to hear.

I also heard Brian and Kate talking to and about Alice. She doesn't
remember what happened but did tell them she put the keys in the glove
compatment as never drinks and drives. But was told she was founed in
the driving seat (because that scroat put her there). I hope after
Alice has slept someone will check the car. It was suggested on fb the
driving seat is too far back for her to drive. Unless they think that
was done getting her out. B&K seem sure she drove. Will anyone
check? I hope the ' very good criminal lawyer' will listen to her and
check.

And I suppose now the worst has happened I am nuggering listening. Or
am I?
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