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Jenny M Benson
2024-07-01 16:36:34 UTC
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The fact that I wouldn't have wanted to watch whatever is normally on
BBC 1 and BBC 2 at 5 pm is neither here nor there. I just looked at the
guide and see that *both* channels are broadcasting Tennis from
Wimbledon between 2 pm and 6 pm. (Even longer on BBC 2.) Is there not
anything in the BBC Charter which dictates that it should be, within
reason, something approaching "all things for all people." If there
isn't, there should be. I'm sure Tennis (not to mention other sports)
are very popular and important but should it really be allowed to
disrupt *everyone's* life?

(Sorry, I'm nearly 80 and you get like this at my age.)
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Jenny M Benson
Wrexham, UK
J. P. Gilliver
2024-07-01 18:59:26 UTC
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Post by Jenny M Benson
The fact that I wouldn't have wanted to watch whatever is normally on
BBC 1 and BBC 2 at 5 pm is neither here nor there. I just looked at
the guide and see that *both* channels are broadcasting Tennis from
Wimbledon between 2 pm and 6 pm. (Even longer on BBC 2.) Is there not
anything in the BBC Charter which dictates that it should be, within
reason, something approaching "all things for all people." If there
isn't, there should be. I'm sure Tennis (not to mention other sports)
are very popular and important but should it really be allowed to
disrupt *everyone's* life?
(Sorry, I'm nearly 80 and you get like this at my age.)
I've been crothchety* about that subject for as long as I can remember,
and I'm only 64 now. Basically, the Great God Sport must be worshipped.
Even worse should a match/game/whatever overrun: then even published
disrupted schedules go out the window.

* at times, semibrevey!

And non-news - such as the election. I accept coverage of events - such
as the actual results, the _occasional_ poll, or a _major_ scandal
(maybe); but the amount of talking about it (including vox pops) is
totally unnecessary. For those that really want it, put it on BBC
parliament, since parliament is not sitting.

(Getting grumpier as my sentencing day approaches [11th], sorry.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)***@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

This was before we knew that a laboratory rat, if experimented upon, will
develop cancer. [Quoted by] Anne (***@aol.com), 1997-1-29
Kosmo
2024-07-01 20:40:54 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver
Post by Jenny M Benson
The fact that I wouldn't have wanted to watch whatever is normally on
BBC 1 and BBC 2 at 5 pm is neither here nor there.  I just looked at
the guide and see that *both* channels are broadcasting Tennis from
Wimbledon between 2 pm and 6 pm.  (Even longer on BBC 2.)  Is there
not anything in the BBC Charter which dictates that it should be,
within reason, something approaching "all things for all people."  If
there isn't, there should be.  I'm sure Tennis (not to mention other
sports) are very popular and important but should it really be allowed
to disrupt *everyone's* life?
(Sorry, I'm nearly 80 and you get like this at my age.)
I've been crothchety* about that subject for as long as I can remember,
and I'm only 64 now. Basically, the Great God Sport must be worshipped.
Even worse should a match/game/whatever overrun: then even published
disrupted schedules go out the window.
* at times, semibrevey!
And non-news - such as the election. I accept coverage of events - such
as the actual results, the _occasional_ poll, or a _major_ scandal
(maybe); but the amount of talking about it (including vox pops) is
totally unnecessary. For those that really want it, put it on BBC
parliament, since parliament is not sitting.
(Getting grumpier as my sentencing day approaches [11th], sorry.)
I think it only applies to Wimbledon to which the BBC has extensive
rights and it is high profile. Given the red button channels and the
app (whatever that is) I would have thought some normal programming
could go out on one mainstream channel - but I suspect there is no spare
money for such frivolities.
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Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
https://tinyurl.com/KRWpics
Rosie Mitchell
2024-07-01 21:29:42 UTC
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Post by Kosmo
Post by J. P. Gilliver
Post by Jenny M Benson
The fact that I wouldn't have wanted to watch whatever is normally
on BBC 1 and BBC 2 at 5 pm is neither here nor there.  I just
looked at the guide and see that *both* channels are broadcasting
Tennis from Wimbledon between 2 pm and 6 pm.  (Even longer on BBC
2.)  Is there not anything in the BBC Charter which dictates that
it should be, within reason, something approaching "all things for
all people."  If there isn't, there should be.  I'm sure Tennis
(not to mention other sports) are very popular and important but
should it really be allowed to disrupt *everyone's* life?
(Sorry, I'm nearly 80 and you get like this at my age.)
I've been crothchety* about that subject for as long as I can
remember, and I'm only 64 now. Basically, the Great God Sport must
be worshipped. Even worse should a match/game/whatever overrun: then
even published disrupted schedules go out the window.
* at times, semibrevey!
And non-news - such as the election. I accept coverage of events -
such as the actual results, the _occasional_ poll, or a _major_
scandal (maybe); but the amount of talking about it (including vox
pops) is totally unnecessary. For those that really want it, put it
on BBC parliament, since parliament is not sitting.
(Getting grumpier as my sentencing day approaches [11th], sorry.)
I think it only applies to Wimbledon to which the BBC has extensive
rights and it is high profile. Given the red button channels and the
app (whatever that is) I would have thought some normal programming
could go out on one mainstream channel - but I suspect there is no
spare money for such frivolities.
What I can't do with Wimbledon, which I can with Roland Garros on
Eurosport, is cut the commentary out. I can turn the sound off, of
course, but that cuts out the crowd noise too.

I saw that Jannick Sinner this evening and it depressed me
unutterably. With the golden age of Roger, Rafa and Novak now over I
fear a return to the wham-bam-fuckoff-ma'am mens tennis of the Sampras
era, during which I boycotted Wimbledon altogether as it was so
booooring.

Rosie
J. P. Gilliver
2024-07-01 23:14:39 UTC
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Post by Kosmo
Post by J. P. Gilliver
I've been crothchety* about that subject for as long as I can
remember, and I'm only 64 now. Basically, the Great God Sport must be
worshipped. Even worse should a match/game/whatever overrun: then
even published disrupted schedules go out the window.
* at times, semibrevey!
[]
Post by Kosmo
I think it only applies to Wimbledon to which the BBC has extensive
No; for most of last week, the normally six-o'clock news wasn't.
Post by Kosmo
rights and it is high profile. Given the red button channels and the
app (whatever that is) I would have thought some normal programming
could go out on one mainstream channel - but I suspect there is no
spare money for such frivolities.
(-: )-:
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)***@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do?
- quoted by Justin Webb in RT, 2022/10/8-14
Rosie Mitchell
2024-07-01 21:22:46 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver
Post by Jenny M Benson
The fact that I wouldn't have wanted to watch whatever is normally
on BBC 1 and BBC 2 at 5 pm is neither here nor there. I just looked
at the guide and see that *both* channels are broadcasting Tennis
from Wimbledon between 2 pm and 6 pm. (Even longer on BBC 2.) Is
there not anything in the BBC Charter which dictates that it should
be, within reason, something approaching "all things for all
people." If there isn't, there should be. I'm sure Tennis (not to
mention other sports) are very popular and important but should it
really be allowed to disrupt *everyone's* life?
(Sorry, I'm nearly 80 and you get like this at my age.)
I've been crothchety* about that subject for as long as I can
remember, and I'm only 64 now.
Flippin' kids!

At almost 70 I get my news from the wireless and stream Wimbledon, which
I do rather enjoy, on iPlayer. News on the telly has too many pictures
to distract.

Rosie
Kosmo
2024-07-01 21:30:22 UTC
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Post by Rosie Mitchell
Post by J. P. Gilliver
Post by Jenny M Benson
The fact that I wouldn't have wanted to watch whatever is normally
on BBC 1 and BBC 2 at 5 pm is neither here nor there. I just looked
at the guide and see that *both* channels are broadcasting Tennis
from Wimbledon between 2 pm and 6 pm. (Even longer on BBC 2.) Is
there not anything in the BBC Charter which dictates that it should
be, within reason, something approaching "all things for all
people." If there isn't, there should be. I'm sure Tennis (not to
mention other sports) are very popular and important but should it
really be allowed to disrupt *everyone's* life?
(Sorry, I'm nearly 80 and you get like this at my age.)
I've been crothchety* about that subject for as long as I can
remember, and I'm only 64 now.
Flippin' kids!
At almost 70 I get my news from the wireless and stream Wimbledon, which
I do rather enjoy, on iPlayer. News on the telly has too many pictures
to distract.
Rosie
News - I have almost given up apart from a quick flip through the BBC
website most days. Little of the "news" increases my enjoyment of life
so would prefer not to suffer it.

Talking of bad news and being behind having been away (North Wales
mainly and very nice it was too) I have just discovered why Johnnie
Walker has been sounding short of breath in recent weeks. It does not
sound good.
--
Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
https://tinyurl.com/KRWpics
Rosie Mitchell
2024-07-01 21:32:05 UTC
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Post by Kosmo
Post by Rosie Mitchell
Post by J. P. Gilliver
Post by Jenny M Benson
The fact that I wouldn't have wanted to watch whatever is normally
on BBC 1 and BBC 2 at 5 pm is neither here nor there. I just looked
at the guide and see that *both* channels are broadcasting Tennis
from Wimbledon between 2 pm and 6 pm. (Even longer on BBC 2.) Is
there not anything in the BBC Charter which dictates that it should
be, within reason, something approaching "all things for all
people." If there isn't, there should be. I'm sure Tennis (not to
mention other sports) are very popular and important but should it
really be allowed to disrupt *everyone's* life?
(Sorry, I'm nearly 80 and you get like this at my age.)
I've been crothchety* about that subject for as long as I can
remember, and I'm only 64 now.
Flippin' kids!
At almost 70 I get my news from the wireless and stream Wimbledon, which
I do rather enjoy, on iPlayer. News on the telly has too many pictures
to distract.
Rosie
News - I have almost given up apart from a quick flip through the BBC
website most days. Little of the "news" increases my enjoyment of
life so would prefer not to suffer it.
Talking of bad news and being behind having been away (North Wales
mainly and very nice it was too) I have just discovered why Johnnie
Walker has been sounding short of breath in recent weeks. It does not
sound good.
Don't mention that man's name in Kilmarnock!

Rosie
Kosmo
2024-07-01 21:46:42 UTC
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Post by Rosie Mitchell
Post by Kosmo
Post by Rosie Mitchell
Post by J. P. Gilliver
Post by Jenny M Benson
The fact that I wouldn't have wanted to watch whatever is normally
on BBC 1 and BBC 2 at 5 pm is neither here nor there. I just looked
at the guide and see that *both* channels are broadcasting Tennis
from Wimbledon between 2 pm and 6 pm. (Even longer on BBC 2.) Is
there not anything in the BBC Charter which dictates that it should
be, within reason, something approaching "all things for all
people." If there isn't, there should be. I'm sure Tennis (not to
mention other sports) are very popular and important but should it
really be allowed to disrupt *everyone's* life?
(Sorry, I'm nearly 80 and you get like this at my age.)
I've been crothchety* about that subject for as long as I can
remember, and I'm only 64 now.
Flippin' kids!
At almost 70 I get my news from the wireless and stream Wimbledon, which
I do rather enjoy, on iPlayer. News on the telly has too many pictures
to distract.
Rosie
News - I have almost given up apart from a quick flip through the BBC
website most days. Little of the "news" increases my enjoyment of
life so would prefer not to suffer it.
Talking of bad news and being behind having been away (North Wales
mainly and very nice it was too) I have just discovered why Johnnie
Walker has been sounding short of breath in recent weeks. It does not
sound good.
Don't mention that man's name in Kilmarnock!
Rosie
I believe he and the Bay City Rollers made up eventually.
--
Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
https://tinyurl.com/KRWpics
Jenny M Benson
2024-07-01 21:41:53 UTC
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having been away (North Wales mainly and very nice it was too)
I trust you weren't anywhere near Wrecsam and ignoring me!
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Jenny M Benson
Wrexham, UK
Kosmo
2024-07-01 21:52:27 UTC
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Post by Jenny M Benson
having been away (North Wales mainly and very nice it was too)
I trust you weren't anywhere near Wrecsam and ignoring me!
Welshpool was the closest on this trip I think but on my recent
railrover I visited both General and Central, the latter being a poor
remnant of the original. However I was on a busy day getting from
Llandrinod Wells to Newcastle via Shrewsbury, the aforementioned
stations in Wrexham, Bidston, Liverpool, Wigan, Barrow-in-Furness and
Carlisle - which was generally some very pleasant scenery but far from
the most direct or fastest route.
--
Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
https://tinyurl.com/KRWpics
Serena Blanchflower
2024-07-01 21:37:21 UTC
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(Getting grumpier as my sentencing day approaches [11th], sorry.)
Good luck!
--
Best wishes, Serena
Families are like fudge....mostly sweet with a few nuts.
J. P. Gilliver
2024-07-01 23:12:36 UTC
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Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by J. P. Gilliver
(Getting grumpier as my sentencing day approaches [11th], sorry.)
Good luck!
Thank you. As various friends have said, preparing for the worst, hoping
for the best. If I disappear, you'll know why - but "I'll be back".
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)***@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do?
- quoted by Justin Webb in RT, 2022/10/8-14
Jenny M Benson
2024-07-02 09:36:00 UTC
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If I disappear, you'll know why - but "I'll be back".

I would certainly hope so - Umra would not be the same without you.
--
Jenny M Benson
Wrexham, UK
J. P. Gilliver
2024-07-02 12:10:18 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver
If I disappear, you'll know why - but "I'll be back".
I would certainly hope so - Umra would not be the same without you.
Aw, shucks. Thanks.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)***@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

if I agreed with you, we'd both be wrong
Rosie Mitchell
2024-07-02 14:29:10 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by J. P. Gilliver
(Getting grumpier as my sentencing day approaches [11th], sorry.)
Good luck!
Thank you. As various friends have said, preparing for the worst,
hoping for the best. If I disappear, you'll know why - but "I'll be
back".
We'll start a FREE GILLIVER campaign with T shirts, mugs and
balloons. We may even dig up the Test pitch for you.

Rosie
J. P. Gilliver
2024-07-02 15:40:06 UTC
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Post by Rosie Mitchell
Post by J. P. Gilliver
Thank you. As various friends have said, preparing for the worst,
hoping for the best. If I disappear, you'll know why - but "I'll be
back".
We'll start a FREE GILLIVER campaign with T shirts, mugs and
balloons. We may even dig up the Test pitch for you.
Rosie
(-:! [I did wonder about asking UMRAts for references, but I suspect
explaining what UMRA is would take up too much of Natasha's time!
(Hausdorff that is.)]
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)***@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

<Squawk> Pieces of eight!
<Squawk> Pieces of eight!
<Squawk> Pieces of nine!
<SYSTEM HALTED: parroty error!>
v***@gmail.com
2024-07-02 10:55:32 UTC
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On Mon, 1 Jul 2024 22:37:21 +0100, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by J. P. Gilliver
(Getting grumpier as my sentencing day approaches [11th], sorry.)
Good luck!
Sentencing? have you already told us about this and because I'm also
nearly 80 I've forgotten. Incidentally, it was apparently Debbie
Harry's birthday yesterday and she's my age. It is so unfair. She
certainly doesn't look it.
J. P. Gilliver
2024-07-02 12:21:04 UTC
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Post by v***@gmail.com
On Mon, 1 Jul 2024 22:37:21 +0100, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by J. P. Gilliver
(Getting grumpier as my sentencing day approaches [11th], sorry.)
Good luck!
Thanks.
Post by v***@gmail.com
Sentencing? have you already told us about this and because I'm also
I have mentioned it briefly. Be assured it involves no fraud, violence,
abuse, grooming (never been a child in my home at all), or any of the
nastier things; taking some pictures I shouldn't have.
Post by v***@gmail.com
nearly 80 I've forgotten. Incidentally, it was apparently Debbie
Harry's birthday yesterday and she's my age. It is so unfair. She
certainly doesn't look it.
At her peak (1970s), for my generation, she just had "it" - despite
actually being much (relatively) older than most of her contemporaries -
well past 30. (And I believe she wasn't even actually blonde!) I wasn't
even that keen on her/their songs, though have since come to like them -
certainly, I immediately recognise many of them now.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)***@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

if I agreed with you, we'd both be wrong
Jim Easterbrook
2024-07-02 12:46:07 UTC
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Post by v***@gmail.com
On Mon, 1 Jul 2024 22:37:21 +0100, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by J. P. Gilliver
(Getting grumpier as my sentencing day approaches [11th], sorry.)
Good luck!
Sentencing? have you already told us about this and because I'm also
I have mentioned it briefly. Be assured it involves no fraud, violence,
abuse, grooming (never been a child in my home at all), or any of the
nastier things; taking some pictures I shouldn't have.
Yes, they're a bit possessive about their paintings at the National
Gallery. It's not like they don't have plenty in store to replace the
occasional disappearance.
--
Jim <http://www.jim-easterbrook.me.uk/>
1959/1985? M B+ G+ A L- I- S- P-- CH0(p) Ar++ T+ H0 Q--- Sh0
Rosie Mitchell
2024-07-02 14:32:18 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver
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On Mon, 1 Jul 2024 22:37:21 +0100, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by J. P. Gilliver
(Getting grumpier as my sentencing day approaches [11th], sorry.)
Good luck!
Sentencing? have you already told us about this and because I'm also
I have mentioned it briefly. Be assured it involves no fraud, violence,
abuse, grooming (never been a child in my home at all), or any of the
nastier things; taking some pictures I shouldn't have.
Yes, they're a bit possessive about their paintings at the National
Gallery. It's not like they don't have plenty in store to replace the
occasional disappearance.
And a lot of the really good ones are in permanent storage.

Rosie
Nick Odell
2024-07-03 12:23:42 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver
Post by v***@gmail.com
On Mon, 1 Jul 2024 22:37:21 +0100, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by J. P. Gilliver
(Getting grumpier as my sentencing day approaches [11th], sorry.)
Good luck!
Thanks.
Post by v***@gmail.com
Sentencing? have you already told us about this and because I'm also
I have mentioned it briefly. Be assured it involves no fraud, violence,
abuse, grooming (never been a child in my home at all), or any of the
nastier things; taking some pictures I shouldn't have.
<snip>

Over time you seem to have drip-fed to umra a huge list of things that
it isn't and in my opinion you've probably eliminated all items in the
criminal code with the exception of Protesting in a Disruptive Manner
and Driving Furiously in a Restricted Area, both of which I'd discount
because (warning: Skoda joke coming up) for the former, I can't see
JPG glueing himself to a tube train to protest against oil and for the
latter: c'mon now, it's a Skoda, for goodness' sake!

All the best, John

Nick
J. P. Gilliver
2024-07-03 14:20:15 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver
Post by v***@gmail.com
Sentencing? have you already told us about this and because I'm also
I have mentioned it briefly. Be assured it involves no fraud, violence,
abuse, grooming (never been a child in my home at all), or any of the
nastier things; taking some pictures I shouldn't have.
<snip>
Over time you seem to have drip-fed to umra a huge list of things that
it isn't and in my opinion you've probably eliminated all items in the
criminal code with the exception of Protesting in a Disruptive Manner
and Driving Furiously in a Restricted Area, both of which I'd discount
Isn't that "bicycling furiously"?
Post by Nick Odell
because (warning: Skoda joke coming up) for the former, I can't see
JPG glueing himself to a tube train to protest against oil and for the
latter: c'mon now, it's a Skoda, for goodness' sake!
It actually goes very well - modern (well, it's a 56) Škodas are really
a cheap VW - although I don't drive furiously.

My offences include the presence of cameras in a bathroom. No children
were involved, but the adults did not know they were there. Very
despicable, so quite right that I be punished - just no
violence/fraud/most other things (and the results were _not_ shared or
put online).
Post by Nick Odell
All the best, John
Thanks; I'll need it. Hoping Ms. Hausdorff will do her stuff.
Post by Nick Odell
Nick
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)***@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

After all is said and done, usually more is said.
Iain Archer
2024-07-03 16:28:18 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver
with the exception of Protesting in a Disruptive Manner and
Driving Furiously in a Restricted Area, both of which I'd discount
Isn't that "bicycling furiously"?
No. :-) "The offence of wanton and furious driving under section 35 OAPA 1861
is committed when bodily harm (i.e. injury) is caused to any person as a result
of the manner of driving of a suspect and is not limited to motor vehicles but
covers any kind of vehicle or carriage including bicycles."
Though perhaps it should be "wanton _or_ furious."
http://cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/road-traffic-fatal-offences-and-bad-driving
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Vict/24-25/100/section/35

Iain
J. P. Gilliver
2024-07-03 18:03:43 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver
with the exception of Protesting in a Disruptive Manner and
Driving Furiously in a Restricted Area, both of which I'd discount
Isn't that "bicycling furiously"?
No. :-) "The offence of wanton and furious driving under section 35 OAPA 1861
is committed when bodily harm (i.e. injury) is caused to any person as a result
of the manner of driving of a suspect and is not limited to motor vehicles but
covers any kind of vehicle or carriage including bicycles."
Though perhaps it should be "wanton _or_ furious."
http://cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/road-traffic-fatal-offences-and-bad-driving
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Vict/24-25/100/section/35
Iain
That explains it; I hadn't realised it was of broader application. I
remember hearing about "bicycling furiously" - I think it was something
like that this archaic charge was the only one that could be found after
some incident.

I like your last point: "honest, officer, I was only driving wantonly
along that stretch, and driving furiously along this - at no time was I
driving wantonly _and_ furiously."
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)***@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

I've never really "got" sport or physical exercise. The only muscle I've ever
enjoyed exercising is the one between my ears. - Beryl Hales, Radio Times
24-30 March 2012
Rosie Mitchell
2024-07-02 14:30:06 UTC
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On Mon, 1 Jul 2024 22:37:21 +0100, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by J. P. Gilliver
(Getting grumpier as my sentencing day approaches [11th], sorry.)
Good luck!
Sentencing? have you already told us about this and because I'm also
nearly 80 I've forgotten. Incidentally, it was apparently Debbie
Harry's birthday yesterday and she's my age. It is so unfair. She
certainly doesn't look it.
She never did. Even in her pomp she was no spring chicken.

Rosie
Nick Odell
2024-07-01 20:56:58 UTC
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On Mon, 1 Jul 2024 17:36:34 +0100, Jenny M Benson
Post by Jenny M Benson
The fact that I wouldn't have wanted to watch whatever is normally on
BBC 1 and BBC 2 at 5 pm is neither here nor there. I just looked at the
guide and see that *both* channels are broadcasting Tennis from
Wimbledon between 2 pm and 6 pm. (Even longer on BBC 2.) Is there not
anything in the BBC Charter which dictates that it should be, within
reason, something approaching "all things for all people." If there
isn't, there should be. I'm sure Tennis (not to mention other sports)
are very popular and important but should it really be allowed to
disrupt *everyone's* life?
(Sorry, I'm nearly 80 and you get like this at my age.)
I presume that, because Wimbledon is very big, each channel was
showing different games. Nevertheless, I take your point.

Nick
Chris J Dixon
2024-07-02 08:27:56 UTC
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Post by Jenny M Benson
The fact that I wouldn't have wanted to watch whatever is normally on
BBC 1 and BBC 2 at 5 pm is neither here nor there. I just looked at the
guide and see that *both* channels are broadcasting Tennis from
Wimbledon between 2 pm and 6 pm
This week's Radio Times has so many options listed, plus
potential overruns that it has very limited utility. It mostly
comprises sundry sport and repeats.

Even then, they broadcast Shania Twain's Glastonbury set earlier
than any of the printed options, so I guess we will have to watch
it on iPlayer.

Chris
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john ashby
2024-07-02 11:22:18 UTC
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Even then, they broadcast Shania Twain's Glastonbury set earlier
than any of the printed options, so I guess we will have to watch
it on iPlayer.
Why, what will happen to you if you don't?

john
Chris J Dixon
2024-07-02 16:04:25 UTC
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Post by Chris J Dixon
Even then, they broadcast Shania Twain's Glastonbury set earlier
than any of the printed options, so I guess we will have to watch
it on iPlayer.
Why, what will happen to you if you don't?
I won't impress her much. ;-)

Chris
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John Armstrong
2024-07-02 08:32:26 UTC
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Post by Jenny M Benson
The fact that I wouldn't have wanted to watch whatever is normally on
BBC 1 and BBC 2 at 5 pm is neither here nor there.  I just looked at the
guide and see that *both* channels are broadcasting Tennis from
Wimbledon between 2 pm and 6 pm.  (Even longer on BBC 2.)  Is there not
anything in the BBC Charter which dictates that it should be, within
reason, something approaching "all things for all people."  If there
isn't, there should be.  I'm sure Tennis (not to mention other sports)
are very popular and important but should it really be allowed to
disrupt *everyone's* life?
(Sorry, I'm nearly 80 and you get like this at my age.)
No need to apologise. Couldn't agree more. And it's worse at the moment
because of some foopball tournament. I'm 73, but I got "like this" wnen
I was about 30.

It's a damn disgrace. Oddly enough, it used to be even worse when only
one channel was used.

Scenario: Tennis scheduled on BBC2. There was a programme (Programme X)
I wanted to record and watch later on BBC1. Video recorder set
accordingly. On going to watch my recording, all I find is tennis, and
an announcement along the lines of "Because of the great interest in
this game (really?) we have moved it to BBC1. Programme X will be shown
at a later date." This was long after the days when some people couldn't
receive BBC2.

I'll save you the bother of complaining. I have complained many times.
The replies are along the lines of:

"We are the BBC. Therefore we know best. F off and don't bother us again."

Great service, and it's less than £170 a year!
J. P. Gilliver
2024-07-02 12:30:43 UTC
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Post by John Armstrong
No need to apologise. Couldn't agree more. And it's worse at the moment
because of some foopball tournament. I'm 73, but I got "like this" wnen
I was about 30.
I too, except in my 20s at latest.
Post by John Armstrong
It's a damn disgrace. Oddly enough, it used to be even worse when only
one channel was used.
Scenario: Tennis scheduled on BBC2. There was a programme (Programme X)
I wanted to record and watch later on BBC1. Video recorder set
accordingly. On going to watch my recording, all I find is tennis, and
an announcement along the lines of "Because of the great interest in
this game (really?) we have moved it to BBC1. Programme X will be shown
at a later date." This was long after the days when some people
couldn't receive BBC2.
I remember - '80s, I think - staying at the home of a friend who wanted
to watch the Grand Prix, which _was_ on (and I don't _think_ there were
rights problems). But Wimbledon was on. Or rather, it wasn't, because it
was raining or something - I think that was before they installed the
sliding (?) roof. But they persisted in showing repeats of earlier
tennis while waiting, rather than the GP which they could have. He
muttered, "oh is that another goal then?" whenever the shown repeated
tennis scored a point. (He knew full well - this is my friend who was
great with language - just frustrated.)
Post by John Armstrong
I'll save you the bother of complaining. I have complained many times.
"We are the BBC. Therefore we know best. F off and don't bother us again."
Yes, I've had plenty of those. (Or more recently, just automatic
acknowledgement responses without any response at all.)
Post by John Armstrong
Great service, and it's less than £170 a year!
I actually am still happy to pay it, despite all its faults. (It's
basically the TV tax, but keeps a unique organisation going - one which
I thing should be, though with much that needs fixing.) Many of the
faults - certainly, homage to the Sport god - are common to the other
broadcasters, too.

Weird spell checker: mine didn't know Wimbledon (it does now), but
suggested "Wimbled"; I don't know that word/name!
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